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BS, quit trying to twist my words. You really are a piece of work.
I'm for keeping Americas game in America, nothing more.
This kind of stuff is what has contributed to the slight decline of the NFL. This and the obvious rigging of games , the kneelers etc.. long time football fans are getting turned off to this crap. I know the SB will have high ratings because it's an event. But it does hurt week 7 type games.
Shishkabob
All Pro
what is wrong with growing the brand outside of the US? They have already dominated the US market for some time now, the next logical step in any business at that point is to try to grow the brand in other countries.
Because having to watch a game at 7:30 AM is like spitting in the face of the avg football fan that made the NFL the most popular sport in America and taking away a home game from a loyal fanbase so NFL owners can expand the sport is worse than spitting in their fans faces.
Shishkabob
All Pro
ah yes that incredibly loyal fan base where their owner has to tarp out sections on game days because they can't fill the stadium...
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Maybe the foreigner is allowing his team to be used as a pawn and is going for a cash grab because his team is the Jaguars who have to tarp 20,000 seats in their stadium.
See, there's a take that doesn't sound so xenophobic.
Max
Veteran
To London?
Texansballer74
The Marine
All I can say is wow
Another fan of mine?
LOL
Because you disagree with me I'm a douchebag?
I dont remember calling you names but I do wonder why you think of me this way and dont tell me you think this way because I think American football should stay in America and asked if it's a coincidence if the only owner not born in this country is more than willing to whore off his team at the expense of his fanbase in Jacksonville?
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Sonny
TexSon Proud
I really don't care where a game is played with the clear exception of wanting it to be at home... However, it is interesting why the NFL is branching to England, Mexico, Bum fuqed Egypt etc because what's the end game plan?
It's not as if England will be given a franchise nor would they want one and to go to the next level.. just imagine if other countries were allowed into the NFL.. what are they gonna do, add another 4+ games to the season? The player's union may put a hit out on Goodell.
Forget the logistical nightmare of travel annnd lord knows I wouldn't want to play Sunday in Houston and then catch a few hours of sleep before a Thursday Night Football game in London.
That said.. who knows.. maybe all that shyt will happen.
It's a 'new cash' consideration. And new Media $. They are over doing it though. 2 games a year was ok, 4 games a bit much, 8 games ridiculous. Your'e right about expansion over seas, won't happen because of the logistical nightmares but I can see Mexico City getting a franchise
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I don't see it... but perhaps
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Shishkabob
All Pro
just trying to grow it as an international sport, much like baseball and basketball have done. Just because there won't be an NFL team over in Europe doesn't mean that the NFL won't profit from a larger worldwide audience, or hell we all know the euro league was a bust. But in another 10/15/20 years of games being played over there and the popularity of the sport growing which it has done significantly lately maybe a euroleague can work
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The NFL has created a multi-year"partnership" that allows the the Jaguars sole team rights to market their brand internationally.
Why do the Jaguars play in London every year?
The Jaguars are playing a game in the U.K. for the fifth straight season and will continue past 2017.
By Adam Stites Sep 22, 2017, 10:00am EDT
An explanation of how it all began:
Jaguars get keys to U.K.
NFL gives club marketing territory overseas
By Daniel Kaplan
October 15, 2012
Why do the Jaguars play in London every year?
The Jaguars are playing a game in the U.K. for the fifth straight season and will continue past 2017.
By Adam Stites Sep 22, 2017, 10:00am EDT
An explanation of how it all began:
Jaguars get keys to U.K.
NFL gives club marketing territory overseas
By Daniel Kaplan
October 15, 2012
you've worked for billionaires that own soccer teams and NFL football teams?
Come on son, at least try to make sense. The NFL has been doing their "International game" since 2007. Khan didn't buy the Jags (and therefore join the NFL owners club) until Jan. 2012. So how the hell is it that Khan is personally responsible for "taking the game overseas?
And where was this outrage back in 2007 when the Dolphins and Giants played in London back in 2007?? Or when your hero Robert Kraft took the Pats over in 2009??
Personally, I wanna know the date.
London is cool. And going to a game over there would be sweet.
dream_team
Hall of Fame
What about Mark Davis? Raiders play internationally just as much.
Same thing
I.guess this is what happens when you inherit a shiny new toy from your daddy.
He's allowed his team to be the main pawn in the test case for the NFL putting a team in London. The difference is he allows his team to play there every year.
Look y'all know my feelings on this, football is an American game and should be kept in America.
I'm moving on
Shishkabob
All Pro
because that's one less game he has to buy 20,000 ish seats to tarp. But even if he didn't allow his team to go there every year the NFL would still be playing games over there so your xenophobic point is moot
See my above post
No xenophobic thoughts here.
This is nothing more than another cash grab by God'ell and the owners and Khan is a more than willing participant.
Shishkabob
All Pro
So did you have the same feeling with baseball and basketball? Baseball is America's past time right?
You're a business owner, you have to know growth is needed at some point. When you start a business, one doesn't normally start it on a nationwide scale correct? They start small, locally and build up from there. Once they are rolling in their region, and they have the funds to expand they do. Why? because yea they want to make more money, they want to be able to pay their employees more money, they want to be able to hire more employees. The NFL has been dominating the US market for some time now, the only next logical step is to expand its horizons. If they can build up enough interest over in Europe to start another Euro league what is the issue with that?
I get what you're saying.
I just think the owners don't care about what's best for the sport, they only care about money. Do you think all of these rule changes have been good for the sport?
Mark Cuban was spot on and there's a certain arrogance the NFL/ God'ell/the owners seem to have and that's not good for the game. The game was better with Tags as commissioner.
The game was about the game and not all of this stuff.
Then he should move the team to a city that will support his team.
Then he should move the team to a city that will support his team.
Shishkabob
All Pro
I think some of the rule changes are good for the game, the helmet to helmet stuff had just gotten to the point of you were wondering when someone was going to die on the field. With all the CTE issues that the NFL had been hiding for years came out it brought everything to the forefront, so certain newer protection rules I think are good for the longevity of the game and its players. As far as a lot of the other newer rules, I think it's good for the product, but not the game. Cuban and his NBA have drifted this way as well, new rules in which its harder to play defense, because offense is what sells. I personally don't like it, you personally don't like it, a lot of football or basketball purest don't like it, but we are honestly a small fraction of the fan base compared to those who do enjoy high scoring/ all offense games. The Chiefs/Rams regular season game was a prime example.
Shishkabob
All Pro
I think we will see him do it within the next decade. Relocation is easier said than done, I feel like other owners were in line first/ in bigger need of moving. The NFL has had 3 teams move or announce they are moving within the last 2 years, all were playing in much worse stadium situations. I think after the dust settles a little with those moves we will see the Jags moving rumors start picking up again, like it was a few years ago
I don't like that every time there is a hard hit it's a penalty
Shishkabob
All Pro
I would kind of like to see it go the way of college a little in that instance. Where if targeting is the call it should be review-able, I don't think the player should get thrown out however and if the replay shows there is indeed no targeting than the offense shouldn't get a free 15 yards like they still do in college. Obviously this would slow the game down some, but maybe it would prevent some of the BS calls where the receiver ducks his head into a hit
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Well, other than your Pakistani this, foreigner that diatribe, but other than that......
I'm just pointing out that because he didn't grow up with American football he doesn't see the game as strictly American. So wherever his team plays really doesn't matter to him. Its only about the money. Nothing more than another investment.
If want to call that xenophobic be my guest.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
He moved to the US when he was 16 years old. He has lived in the US for 52 years. He lived in the US for 45 years before he became an NFL owner.
He was in a fraternity in college. Married a pretty white girl and had some babies. He made his billions supplying auto parts to the Big Three American automakers. He is the principal investor in a professional wrestling league.
Frat guy. Auto industry empire. Pro Wrasslin'. NFL owner. This guy is living a lot of other guy's American Dream.
Your "pointing out" is pure speculation and doesn't pass the smell test when looking at his entire life's work. This guy loves being everything there is to be about being an American. Just recognize your bias.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Report: Texans offered Browns high draft pick for Brian Hoyer
By Greg Rajan, Houston Chronicle
Updated 3:23 pm CST, Thursday, January 24, 2019
The Brian Hoyer era in Houston is a forgettable one, largely because of how it ended.
According to a new report Thursday, it could've started a year earlier.
In a long piece by ESPN's Seth Wickersham examining the Cleveland Browns' dysfunction under owner Jimmy Haslam, an interesting nugget about the Texans was unearthed: They reportedly offered a high second-round pick during the 2014 draft for Hoyer, who had started six games for the Browns in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury.
That 2014 draft was the first for the partnership of then-Texans general manager Rick Smith and first-year coach Bill O'Brien, who had worked with Hoyer with the New England Patriots from 2009-11.
With the 22nd Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2015 XenForo Ltd.pick in the first round, the Browns drafted Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel, whom Haslam coveted despite red flags about Manziel's off-field conduct. Per Wickersham's report, the selection of Manziel angered Hoyer. General manager Ray Farmer called Hoyer to calm him down and shortly after their conversation, the Texans called to offer "a high second-round pick" for Hoyer.
It's not specified if the pick was in the 2014 draft, in which the Texans owned the 33rd overall selection, the first of the second round.
According to Wickersham, the Browns' draft room "was buzzing with the chance to pick up a potential first-round player for second-round money."
However, Farmer nixed the trade, reportedly telling friends "he felt like he had to take control of his first draft," ostensibly because the Browns' first two picks were players championed by coach Mike Pettine and Haslam.
THE REST OF THE STORY
By Greg Rajan, Houston Chronicle
Updated 3:23 pm CST, Thursday, January 24, 2019
The Brian Hoyer era in Houston is a forgettable one, largely because of how it ended.
According to a new report Thursday, it could've started a year earlier.
In a long piece by ESPN's Seth Wickersham examining the Cleveland Browns' dysfunction under owner Jimmy Haslam, an interesting nugget about the Texans was unearthed: They reportedly offered a high second-round pick during the 2014 draft for Hoyer, who had started six games for the Browns in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury.
That 2014 draft was the first for the partnership of then-Texans general manager Rick Smith and first-year coach Bill O'Brien, who had worked with Hoyer with the New England Patriots from 2009-11.
With the 22nd Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2015 XenForo Ltd.pick in the first round, the Browns drafted Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel, whom Haslam coveted despite red flags about Manziel's off-field conduct. Per Wickersham's report, the selection of Manziel angered Hoyer. General manager Ray Farmer called Hoyer to calm him down and shortly after their conversation, the Texans called to offer "a high second-round pick" for Hoyer.
It's not specified if the pick was in the 2014 draft, in which the Texans owned the 33rd overall selection, the first of the second round.
According to Wickersham, the Browns' draft room "was buzzing with the chance to pick up a potential first-round player for second-round money."
However, Farmer nixed the trade, reportedly telling friends "he felt like he had to take control of his first draft," ostensibly because the Browns' first two picks were players championed by coach Mike Pettine and Haslam.
THE REST OF THE STORY
banned1976
sleeper mode
So in a stroke of luck the Texans found the one franchise dumber than they were/are as potential trade partners.
While a new detail, this isn't new information, the Texans, primarily BOB, overvalued Brian Hoyer. See bringing Hoyer over for the guy who was already playing at Hoyer's upside.
Because three first round picks would have had the wheels falling off your first draft?
Yeah, I'm not buying this crap. No way Ricky would give up such a valuable asset to acquire a player BO'b actually liked.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Report: Texans offered Browns high draft pick for Brian Hoyer
By Greg Rajan, Houston Chronicle
Updated 3:23 pm CST, Thursday, January 24, 2019
The Brian Hoyer era in Houston is a forgettable one, largely because of how it ended.
According to a new report Thursday, it could've started a year earlier.
In a long piece by ESPN's Seth Wickersham examining the Cleveland Browns' dysfunction under owner Jimmy Haslam, an interesting nugget about the Texans was unearthed: They reportedly offered a high second-round pick during the 2014 draft for Hoyer, who had started six games for the Browns in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury.
That 2014 draft was the first for the partnership of then-Texans general manager Rick Smith and first-year coach Bill O'Brien, who had worked with Hoyer with the New England Patriots from 2009-11.
With the 22nd Forum software by XenForo
2010-2015 XenForo Ltd.pick in the first round, the Browns drafted Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel, whom Haslam coveted despite red flags about Manziel's off-field conduct. Per Wickersham's report, the selection of Manziel angered Hoyer. General manager Ray Farmer called Hoyer to calm him down and shortly after their conversation, the Texans called to offer "a high second-round pick" for Hoyer.
It's not specified if the pick was in the 2014 draft, in which the Texans owned the 33rd overall selection, the first of the second round.
According to Wickersham, the Browns' draft room "was buzzing with the chance to pick up a potential first-round player for second-round money."
However, Farmer nixed the trade, reportedly telling friends "he felt like he had to take control of his first draft," ostensibly because the Browns' first two picks were players championed by coach Mike Pettine and Haslam.
THE REST OF THE STORY
2010-2015 XenForo Ltd.So much for the theory that OB wanted Jimmy G and Rick took X.
How did they operate?
Did OB hand a list of players that he wanted to Rick and then Rick would go get them at all cost? It’s the blind leading the blind.
Idiots.
Point A doesn't mean point B isn't true.
Shishkabob
All Pro
It kind of does in this scenario. You said O'Brien really wanted Jimmy G, but Rick thought he could wait until round 3 to get him. Well if O'Brien was set to give up the 33rd pick for Hoyer, than obviously he didn't think Jimmy G was worth the pick at that time either.
It's pure speculation that they were going to give up 33, much less that they were giving up a high 2nd. I could believe the latter, but not the other
A. We dont know this report to be true.
B. That's not what has been reported
C. We will continue to believe who we want to believe, what I found funny is that it took 5 yrs for this report to come out.