Yeah, a CB or three and a healthy Cole and Cunningham, I figure defense is set. Offense needs a bit more, but main pieces in place
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Yeah, a CB or three and a healthy Cole and Cunningham, I figure defense is set. Offense needs a bit more, but main pieces in place
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Tend to agree.
The D is good enough, although 1 decent CB would seal it.
I would spend the first pick on OL - we have to find our franchise LT, then the 2nd on CB and then the 3rd on O again.
gs27
Veteran
I would be happy if we could add Bryce Callahan, playing now for the Bears, best slot corner in the league. Local talent from Rice. Probably 7-8 million per year. Draft a few lineman, another corner, OLB and a RB. Really hope we are not the team to throw alot of money at Bell. History not good for teams signing high price RBs in FA. Need hungry young backs.
we added the best slot corner in the league last year... injuries have derailed that. Neither is great outside, I think we need to go elsewhere
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Watch Tre’quan Smith, New Orleans tonight.
Inactive for game.
Like Fuller or Coutee, speedy slot affects offensive explosiveness.
Last week - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...quan-smith-shines-while-eagles-covered-thomas
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badboy
Hall of Fame
We need find a CB somewhere that can start. Love or Murphy might be there round one. I'm hoping Joseph is our backup in his last contract year. I think Hyatt is only LT in round 2 but RT with our third pick should have 2-3 possibilities.
Texas Jake
Rookie
Hopefully we can fill some holes in FA so we are in a better position to take BPA in the draft.
Good possibility, but how many teams are starving for a LT more than they are a top edge rusher?
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Not the question JB, edge rusher is much deeper than LT with basically two Jonah Williams and Gregg Little. To answer your question, Arizona, Jets, Giants have given up most sacks NFL, Jags especially if they keep Bortles, Browns, Eagles, Broncos and even Atlanta who could move Jonah Williams to OG.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Gotta disagree on Bell and I've spent some time researching him as I wanted to go after Alabama's Damien Harris who is same type player running and catching. His last four NFL seasons he averaged 4.0 in 2017 and almost 5 in three before in run avg. Three of those four he had almost 1300 yards and those same years he avg'd over 8 catching. As someone else pointed out in another thread Bell turns 27 Feb 2019 but had no damage to body sitting out this season. I think he wants too much but for this type of player 6'1" 225 who should want to help Texans to Super Bowl, pay him. Even better we can use 2019 space from K. Johnson $9 m+ Lamar Miller $7.25 + Griffin's 2.75 totaling $18.75 m and not miss any of them while being much better team. Any high dollar player comes with risks but so did JJ, Hopkins, Colvin, Fulton, Miller and will with Badger and Kareem Jackson when we extend them.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I think that is an way over generalized opinion unless supported by facts. You can name some that do and I can name some that don't beginning with our #1 WR. There are always risks but Bell is one I'm okay with.
Uncle Rico
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While you are right about FA RBs and how many have fizzled out, not many of Bells pedigree and proven track record hit the market. There is usually a trade for a player like that.
Bell is not only a dynamic runner between the tackles (which is the only running game O'Brien employs it would seem) but he is also a phenomenal pass catcher out of the backfield. One thing that could turn this offense around quicker than young investments on the line or in the backfield IMO. We need immediate game changers to capitalize on the closing nucleus with the older players.
Ever ask yourself why the Steelers haven't missed a beat with Conner this year.
Texas Jake
Rookie
A consistently successful running attack starts with the o-line winning the battle in the trenches.
Uncle Rico
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Because they have Mike Munchsk as offensive line coach?
You even wonder what that offense COULD be with Bell? You'd rather face Bell vs Conner in a winner take all game?
Uncle Rico
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And it's also interesting to note that since Munchak joined Steelers in 2014 that team has committed a whopping 0 ZERO top 3 draft pick in any year to the offensive line.
Hmmm could coaching matter?
Hmmm could coaching matter?
Read TJ's post above.
BTW, talent does matter. Look at where the Steelers ol was drafted, then look at where the Texans ol was drafted and get back to me.
Uncle Rico
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The core of those high draft picks in Pouncey, Gilbert and Decastro were there before Munchak and they were middle of the pack you saying the undrafted Villanueva or the undrafted Ramon Foster were what triggered a revived line? SMH. Look at the offensive line rankings pre and post Munchak and do a little bit of work man you just throw **** against a wall to see if it will stick.
Why was Villanueva a UDFA? Could it have had anything to do with his military service commitment? Speaking of Munchak, how many SB's have they won since Munchak became the OL coach? Or for that matter since Tomlin ran Arians out of town?
Uncle Rico
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So if talent is this overriding factor why are the eagles shitting the bed if they have all pros all over the offensive line? You're making my point for me ... It all goes back to the coach NOT THE GM.
Uncle Rico
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Also 'your guy' Villanueva bombed his tryout after going undrafted AND THEN went into service. Hurt your narrative?
Ever heard of an outlier?
There QB is slowly coming back from tearing multiple knee ligaments. That could have something to do with their regression, or them losing 3 CB's for multiple games. Or something as simple as a SB hangover.
badboy
Hall of Fame
What are you talking about? He did honor his contract playing all years and extremely well. BY NFL agreement Pittsburgh had right to tag him and by NFL agreement he had right to not sign, not report, lose $14.5 million and become and Unrestricted Free Agent. Same thing can happen to Texans with Clowney.
Dont remember texans tagging anyone before. Tagging is a part of the nfl you sign up for.
Nope, he played at Army and they have a 2 yr commitment they have to fill with the military.
BTW, Toth was in the same situation as Villanueva after last season and I wanted the Texans to spend a late rd pick on Toth. BTW, I think he went UDFA after being one of the best OL at the Sr. Bowl.
That guy is atleast a starting RT and I think he can play LT. Since Toth went undrafted I wonder can they draft him in this yrs draft and wait on him for a yr?
Uncle Rico
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...0e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.a73035bb806d
Trump changed the policy, or Mattis, or whatever they are all one entity up there. Before last year the rules were always flexible allowing athletic 'stars' to serve out in reserves etc.. What better way to promote the service departments then with having pro players flying the respective flag? I understand the requirements, and so did the players that accepted the scholarships, but its an antiquated policy and now is being enforced by a questionable 'ruling party' in our gov't. So the gov't thinks that trotting out guys who are 6'9 300 lbs and plopping them down on the front lines is the best way to use that particular individual? If so I think its remarkably stupid, and so does most of my family who have served from Korea/Vietnam/Desert Storm.
And again on topic as far as Villanueva and his talent is concerned he became Mike Munchaks pet project. Villanueva was ranked something like 65 out of 99 offensive tackles in college football the year he came out, he also played wide receiver his senior year at the academy. A 6'9 300 lb wide receiver .. Army knew what it was doing and it was quite the spectacle, drew alot of press etc... but nowhere, nowhow was Villanueva EVER regarded as a top tier football player. He's quite good now I agree all thanks to Mike Munchak.
I dont want to get into politics. I have great respect for any guy that chooses to play football at any military school. # Great people who put country before self.
Munch is a great OL coach so dont think I was trying to slight him. He has much more talent to work with than Devin does. Dont take that as an endorsement of Devlin. He's not in the same class as Munch when it comes to developing guys. See: Devlin worked out Davenport and probably vouched for Davenport to Ricky as a guy he could develop. That makes me question Devlin's competence.
I wish Matthews would put aside his business interests and become the Texans Munch.
Uncle Rico
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that just it, most guys who go to the military academies arent regarded as the 'cream of the crop' athletically otherwise they would be at a school that would showcase that talent for future professional aspirations. SOME guys become great players while at the academy, and like my family members say they should just let those guys become recruiting type figures, make appearances at events for new recruits, make commercials etc... hanging onto this "MUST SERVE" policy isnt really that staunchly supported by guys who have served. Too much propaganda flying around in todays political climate, most guys I know who have served actually despise the last few presidents because of the horrendous treatment at VA hospitals and even the flat out denial of care for existing ailments caused from war. END OF RANT.
Bruce Matthews is nowhere near the coach that Mike Munchak is sadly. Nostalgia would be nice, but I dont think he is the answer either.
Agreed on everything but Matthews. We dont know, but his sons have all played in the NFL with varying degrees of success. They were all starters/leaders in college. So apparently he must be a decent teacher of OL play.
Not saying much... but did lead to Lewan being drafted in the 1st
Uncle Rico
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badboy
Hall of Fame
nah, everyone talking thinks he gets tagged. The only bad move IMO would be if tagged, he sits out like Bell did at Pittsburgh.Im sure Jadeveon is feeling optimistic.
New GM, so maybe he's gonna make some new rules & proceures, huh ? The trade to acquire DT marked a different strategy, right ?
badboy
Hall of Fame
nah, everyone talking thinks he gets tagged. The only bad move IMO would be if tagged, he sits out like Bell did at Pittsburgh.Im sure Jadeveon is feeling optimistic.
Yes, my understanding and also heard on radio Thomas was first trade in years during season. These moves could also be from Cal; regardless decisions I approve of. We need to see more from Thomas tonight. We should see better mixture of offensive plays from OBrien using TEs and RBs in receiving game.
Uncle Rico
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https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2...bout-where-he-might-want-to-play-next-season/
Can't say that I'd be thrilled if this happens.
Can't say that I'd be thrilled if this happens.
gs27
Veteran
I am hoping Gaine tries some new things. Everyone knows that the SB window is much bigger when you have a great QB on a rookie contract. What if we tried to spread that out a little more than the next two seasons? Essentially spread out the discount over a longer portion of his career.
We owe Watson just $4 million new money over the next two seasons. I would try to lock him up this off-season and make it a win win for Watson and the Texans. Add 4 year extension (2021-2024) at 24M per year average value added to the 4M.
Maybe something like 6 years 100M (4 years 96M new), signing bonus of 36M
2019 - 14M S + 6M B + 4M COB = 24M
2020 - 12M S + 6M B = 18M
2021 - 12M S + 6M B = 18M
2022 - 10M S + 6M B = 16M
2023 - 10M S + 6M B = 16M
2024 - 10M S + 6M B = 14M
I think Watson like JJ has the character you can trust to give this type of front loaded contract to without worrying about a holdout late in his contract when his salary will no where close match his value.
This would still give us enough flexibility to lock up our players. I would rather spend it now, lock Watson up, than have the $ to spend on all of our own free agents later during his career versus throwing a ton of money at a free agent coming in who doesn't know our system and may or may not work out.
Watson ends up getting money sooner, and the Texans end up with a lot of cap flexibility over the next 6 years.
We owe Watson just $4 million new money over the next two seasons. I would try to lock him up this off-season and make it a win win for Watson and the Texans. Add 4 year extension (2021-2024) at 24M per year average value added to the 4M.
Maybe something like 6 years 100M (4 years 96M new), signing bonus of 36M
2019 - 14M S + 6M B + 4M COB = 24M
2020 - 12M S + 6M B = 18M
2021 - 12M S + 6M B = 18M
2022 - 10M S + 6M B = 16M
2023 - 10M S + 6M B = 16M
2024 - 10M S + 6M B = 14M
I think Watson like JJ has the character you can trust to give this type of front loaded contract to without worrying about a holdout late in his contract when his salary will no where close match his value.
This would still give us enough flexibility to lock up our players. I would rather spend it now, lock Watson up, than have the $ to spend on all of our own free agents later during his career versus throwing a ton of money at a free agent coming in who doesn't know our system and may or may not work out.
Watson ends up getting money sooner, and the Texans end up with a lot of cap flexibility over the next 6 years.
Times are changing down on Kirby.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
That's why I included the signing of Bell as insurance. If Foreman fails in his comeback from this devastating injury......it'd be extremely fortunate to have Bell on the roster.
Shishkabob
All Pro
So you want to sign one of the highest priced RBs as insurance?
Eagles UDFA Adams looked pretty good last night
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
That would be a big time yes. Miller will probably sign elsewhere and that leaves Foreman and Blue. If Foreman doesn't return to his former self.......gulp, that leaves Blue as the Texans feature back or a rookie draft pick that probably comes in RD5 thru RD7. Yeah, I'd sign Bell and get him into Day 1 of all off-season programs.
If the Texans upgrade the OL and get Bell signed......me thinks NFL defenses are going to be game planning to stop Bell. That would bode well for Watson and the passing game.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Bell should be better than Miller stat wise for sure. IIRC, Miller 2019 last contract year. What if he does what Bell did and sits out 19 or leaves as FA after? Texans have cap space for Bell and Miller