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humblegeo
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Is it possible that Tony Romo could wind up in Houston to play quarterback for a couple of years. We need help desperately!!! 14th season
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ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Who would get hurt first?
Romo or Savage
I say pass. Our oline will get Romo hurt
Romo or Savage
I say pass. Our oline will get Romo hurt
Showtime100
Got JJ?
No. Not for what they'll want in return. Maybe for the time being we forget their rickety, good, but old, QB and learn from them in building an offensive line.
Not directed at you, humblegeo, just my opinion on the way to go from here.
Not directed at you, humblegeo, just my opinion on the way to go from here.
Not sure how we afford both Romo and Osweiler (either on roster or cut, cause ain't nobody taking him in trade).
Wouldn't mind taking some shot with him while a viable youngster develops, just don't see the feasibility.
Wouldn't mind taking some shot with him while a viable youngster develops, just don't see the feasibility.
Ranger Tom
All Pro
I had the same thought. If it weren't for the amount of money we're spending and will spend on Os, I'd be happy to have Romo in town. As things are, though, we should look for someone willing to work for less.
i would prefer Phillip Rivers. He is not happy with the chargers moving to LA. There is a chance we can get him. im not sure but i think he will be a free agent if they dont sign him this offseason.
Rick Smith needs to get on the phone with his agent...... BoB i got you a QB
He's contracted through 2019, and so not much different (effectively anyway) than the financial constraints Romo would bring.
How's it feasible with the albatross that is Os's contract?
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
It's only remotely possible if the Cowboys release him and that's a tough stretch given the dead money cap hit they would take. And trading him, especially to a good team, only seems viable for one or two teams at the moment.
Interesting though, as we can hope for the best. But if the Cowboys released Tony Romo and he were willing to come here for less money, and then Adrian Peterson wants to sign here for a hometown discount (both coming to win here and not about the money). And with Watt coming back we could potentially make a strong Super Bowl run next year.
I know it's all unlikely but certainly something to talk about regarding the Houston Texans.
Interesting though, as we can hope for the best. But if the Cowboys released Tony Romo and he were willing to come here for less money, and then Adrian Peterson wants to sign here for a hometown discount (both coming to win here and not about the money). And with Watt coming back we could potentially make a strong Super Bowl run next year.
I know it's all unlikely but certainly something to talk about regarding the Houston Texans.
It's not feasible. Bringing in a high priced aged vet isn't happening. That's a fools pipe dream
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
Unfortunately while true initially, he has finally embraced the move to Los Angeles and is excited to play in L.A. this upcoming year. He said as much on the Jimmy Kimmel show the other night along with fellow teammate Joey Bosa. They are both excited to play for the Los Angeles Chargers.i would prefer Phillip Rivers. He is not happy with the chargers moving to LA. There is a chance we can get him. im not sure but i think he will be a free agent if they dont sign him this offseason.
Rick Smith needs to get on the phone with his agent...... BoB i got you a QB
Romo ain't going to want to play smashheadball for the kind of money it would take to make him work with our cap.
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humblegeo
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So I guess none of it is within the realm of possibilities since our Football experts in the front office screwed up so badly (meaning unsatisfactory, inadequate or unsuccessful way) on the Osweiler signing. We are stuck with Osweiler for atleast this next season. Our hands are tied at this point with very few options or money to spend on a top veteran quarterback like a Tony Romo or Phillip Rivers.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
There's really no money to be spent on a (quality) QB unless you ignore other things, which I hope they don't do. Beef up the oline, and head into camp with our current trio of QBs and another couple from "somewhere" and hope for the best. Before you go putting your dream QB on the team, he really ought to have a better line up front.
Ice up Savage and draft a youngster. Maybe kick the tires on a Mike Glennon negotiation.
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humblegeo
Guest
Some of the talk that's going around concerning Houston's quarterback situation. This is a quote from one of those articles:
The Brandt Report
Ideas for the QB-needy: Trubisky to Browns? Romo to Texans?
5) Houston Texans
2016 starters: Brock Osweiler (14 games), Tom Savage (2).
Passing offense ranked: 29th.
This could be a Super Bowl team with better quarterback play, which is why I would pursue Romo, who could definitely lift the Texans to the promised land if healthy. I'd also look for a potential replacement for Osweiler in the draft, maybe someone like Texas Tech's Patrick Mahomes or even a second- or third-rounder that coach Bill O'Brien could develop. At this point, Osweiler is the default starter heading into 2017, but he was such a disappointment for this squad. I'd definitely have an open competition, even if that simply ends up being a two-man race between Osweiler and Tom Savage. Don't discount the possibility that a rookie could come in and pull a Dak Prescott, catching everyone off guard.
The Brandt Report
Ideas for the QB-needy: Trubisky to Browns? Romo to Texans?
5) Houston Texans
2016 starters: Brock Osweiler (14 games), Tom Savage (2).
Passing offense ranked: 29th.
This could be a Super Bowl team with better quarterback play, which is why I would pursue Romo, who could definitely lift the Texans to the promised land if healthy. I'd also look for a potential replacement for Osweiler in the draft, maybe someone like Texas Tech's Patrick Mahomes or even a second- or third-rounder that coach Bill O'Brien could develop. At this point, Osweiler is the default starter heading into 2017, but he was such a disappointment for this squad. I'd definitely have an open competition, even if that simply ends up being a two-man race between Osweiler and Tom Savage. Don't discount the possibility that a rookie could come in and pull a Dak Prescott, catching everyone off guard.
jradMIT
Veteran
Romo's contract is not as bad as some would suggest, if acquired in a trade, his salary and cap hit for the Texans would be 14 million,
If you get into the details the Texans have more than enough cap room and roster flexibility,
26 Million Cap Room-
54 players under contract
Only the first 51 players count
Easy cuts
Derek Newton 3.25 M
Tony Bergstrom 2.9 M
Brandon Weeden 2.1 M
Total 8.25 M
Cap Room = 25.6+ 8.25= 34M
Romo = 34-14 + 500k (51st players rolls off) = 20.5 M
FA keep BOuye sign 5 year 50M, 20 Mil guaranteed(you can debate if you should, but this would be what I think the most you should pay him) 1st year cap hit 6M -500k (2M salary + 4M prorated bonus)
Cap Room 15M
Sign a FA RT to a similar deal
Cap HIT 5.5 M
Cap Room 9.5
7 rookies ~ 3.5 M this is because remember for each player added a player rolls off @500k
So (9-3.5) = 5.5M (this is essentially the same space leftover as last year)
Additional cuts to consider
Chris Clark 2.75 M (if you sign a new starter, you can draft a swing tackle)
Eddie Pleasant 1.1 M
JJO 6.5 M (if you want to make a bigger splash in FA)
All in all the cap won't prevent the Texans from acquiring Romo, how much OS makes matters not because he can be cut next year and there is room this year, A trade for Romo would mean none of his contract is guaranteed so you wouldn't be mortgaging the future, Romo can be acquired IMHO for a 4th plus a conditional 2018 pick based on health, Savage would get his shot when Romo inevitably misses time, but if he is healthy for a PO run, it's not crazy to think you can make a run to the Super Bowl, it's a low risk High reward IMHO, a fourth rounder is not something that would kill you if it doesn't pan out.
Lastly and kinda tongue in cheek, it would literally kill cowgirl fans if Romo came here and balled out to a SB
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If you get into the details the Texans have more than enough cap room and roster flexibility,
26 Million Cap Room-
54 players under contract
Only the first 51 players count
Easy cuts
Derek Newton 3.25 M
Tony Bergstrom 2.9 M
Brandon Weeden 2.1 M
Total 8.25 M
Cap Room = 25.6+ 8.25= 34M
Romo = 34-14 + 500k (51st players rolls off) = 20.5 M
FA keep BOuye sign 5 year 50M, 20 Mil guaranteed(you can debate if you should, but this would be what I think the most you should pay him) 1st year cap hit 6M -500k (2M salary + 4M prorated bonus)
Cap Room 15M
Sign a FA RT to a similar deal
Cap HIT 5.5 M
Cap Room 9.5
7 rookies ~ 3.5 M this is because remember for each player added a player rolls off @500k
So (9-3.5) = 5.5M (this is essentially the same space leftover as last year)
Additional cuts to consider
Chris Clark 2.75 M (if you sign a new starter, you can draft a swing tackle)
Eddie Pleasant 1.1 M
JJO 6.5 M (if you want to make a bigger splash in FA)
All in all the cap won't prevent the Texans from acquiring Romo, how much OS makes matters not because he can be cut next year and there is room this year, A trade for Romo would mean none of his contract is guaranteed so you wouldn't be mortgaging the future, Romo can be acquired IMHO for a 4th plus a conditional 2018 pick based on health, Savage would get his shot when Romo inevitably misses time, but if he is healthy for a PO run, it's not crazy to think you can make a run to the Super Bowl, it's a low risk High reward IMHO, a fourth rounder is not something that would kill you if it doesn't pan out.
Lastly and kinda tongue in cheek, it would literally kill cowgirl fans if Romo came here and balled out to a SB
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jradMIT
Veteran
It very much is, Especially since OS is gone next year.
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jradMIT
Veteran
How would we be more screwed than we already are? Hard to see how it could be worse?
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Thorsson
Waterboy
Romo trying to make it through a 16-game schedule AND the playoffs is like a shopworn, over-the-hill Muhammad Ali trying to last 15 rounds with a young, hungry Larry Holmes. It ain't happening!
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Some of the comments being flung around are eerily similar to what was being said about Manning 5 years ago.
This isn't a big window and the thinking can't be about what's best for the team in the long term.
Romo will be released, and if he's interested in playing here the front office should entertain the idea, I'm sure the price tag can be creative and performance laden which would incentivize at about the time the Osweiler contract can be dumped. Draft and groom the future QB behind Romo.
If we go into the next season with the same quarterbacks it will be another wasted season.
This isn't a big window and the thinking can't be about what's best for the team in the long term.
Romo will be released, and if he's interested in playing here the front office should entertain the idea, I'm sure the price tag can be creative and performance laden which would incentivize at about the time the Osweiler contract can be dumped. Draft and groom the future QB behind Romo.
If we go into the next season with the same quarterbacks it will be another wasted season.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
If J.J. Watt is able to make a healthy return in 2017 and we found a way to add Tony Romo and Adrian Peterson in the backfield, who has already expressed a strong interest in finishing his career here (he lives here), the Houston Texans could become a serious favorite to win the Super Bowl next year.
This isn't like adding Ed Reed or Eric Moulds, or even Ahman Green, (insert old washed up name) because we just came off a hard-fought divisional round loss at Foxborough (down 17-13 at halftime and 24-16 early in the fourth quarter) despite not having our best player in J.J. Watt.
We're so close to becoming a Super Bowl team.
If you could sell me on a healthy Romo and Peterson come next January for the playoffs.
I'd be convinced, or at least very confident, that we could reach the Super Bowl and win it.
I also feel some of the comments remind me of when Peyton Manning was a free agent. People just argued why it couldn't work. He had a bad neck they said. He couldn't play in Gary Kubiak's West Coast offense they said. He's not a bootleg type of QB. But yet he won the Super Bowl playing for Kubiak last year before he retired. And he had the #1 defense and a strong run game to carry him.
Our defense will be dominating (#1 in the league). Add a good quarterback and a future Hall of Fame running back that should have fresh legs at near the age of 32, because he only played 4 games in two of the past three years, and we could very well win the Super Bowl next year if things fell our way.
Maybe Lamar Miller's pride would get in the way. Who knows.
If we could just sell him on the idea of splitting carries with AP!
But our players deserve a Super Bowl ring and I want to get it next year!!!!
Is your favorite movie Armageddon? Your favorite movie's Armageddon isn't it?
And man, there's nothing wrong with that. Just want an honest answer, cause I've got a sneaking suspicion about this.
And do you think we could trade Os for him (or trade Os whatsoever)?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Yeah but Romo isn't really going to be a 37 yds old QB next season because he has only started 4 games in the last 2 seasons.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
No. Nobody would want to be saddled with Oz and his salary.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
The only way he comes here is if he's released and signs an incentive laden deal. If that were to happen I'd be very happy but also waiting for him to break another bone. Romo can still be a productive player but is frail.
texanhead08
All Pro
Romo couldn't make it through preseason behind the best oline in the league. He would be snapped in half by September 15th with the Texans. I don't want a band aid QB I want an answer that could be our guy for the next 10yrs.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Sure why not bring an injured prone QB to save our depleted offense.
Scooter
Funky
That's 100% EXACTLY what this is. Ed Reed was supposed to be the missing piece coming off a 12-4 season with a playoff win. He helped to sink the team before getting cut during the season while Glover Quinn became a top safety. This is throwing money at an old player who CND has already said won't survive his first couple hits, along with a 31 year old runningback who would still be behind a bad line. I learned my lesson, apparently some folks enjoy the abuse.
We have a very capable runningback, the AP talk is silly. Miller actually did pretty well in spite of O'Brien and our offensive line. And that's NOT a position to sink so much money into.
Romo is ... I don't even know the word for it. Stupid, idiotic, ludicrous, insane. I really liked Romo and thought he was a great quarterback (wouldn't catch me saying that out loud though), the player that shows up next year before his guaranteed injury is NOT the Tony Romo you remember. And please don't tell me that you compared Romo to Peyton Manning. C'mon.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
Maybe it's a pipe dream on my part but if we included a draft pick with Os, I don't see why the Cowboys wouldn't entertain it. It's basically trading a $19 million backup Qb for a $16 million one for them. I believe I read they would have around $24 million in dead money if they cut Romo. The Cowboys would save $8 million, have an extra draft pick and they can cut Os after next year for nothing. I could just be pipe dreaming of a way to get rid of Os, though.
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Sure it is .... at the expense of using the vast majority of your cap space which means cutting corners everywhere else and renouncing most if not all of your free agents.
Romo has played behind the NFL's best OL the past couple seasons and has ended up on the shelf .... Imagine him behind this rag tag bunch.
It's a crap shoot regardless of draft position.
Sigma
Veteran
to be fair some worked out, like wilfork
and I bet manning would have worked out pretty good if we would have gone for him
Scooter
Funky
To be fair ONE worked out who had just come off of a great post-season and landed with his former Coordinator.
Tell me that CND is wrong and Romo is going to survive 2 hits. Tell me that 31 year old Peterson is so special that he can combine with Miller to take up our cap space needed to build an offensive line. Talk to me. Tell me that 37 and 31 are our lucky numbers.
Sigma
Veteran
oh I am not in the romo camp.
we don't have the money so even if he was the best QB ever the point would be moot
and in general I would not like to take on FA at the end of their carreers, but Manning was coming off an injury as well and he managed to win a super bowl (and play in 2)
with our cap situation I expect Os, Savage and a rookie will be our options, and just two of them will be in the final 53
so it will be either Os + Savage or Os + rookie
If you want to spend money on a vet, how about Matt Kalil to beef up the O-line. He'll be a F/A and SpotTrac projects his mkt value at around 5+ mil/yr. He could play LT and move D.Brown to RT or keep D.B. where he is for another year or so and put Kalil at RT. And compared to taking on Romo's salary, that leaves some change to pick up another F/A lineman (or CB).
Except it's really not.
Two.
Antonio Smith came back this year to add experience and depth to the D-line after Watt was lost. I'd call that a success.
Scooter
Funky
I love the Ninja, but he had retired and was JAG at this point. We brought him back because we (again) dropped a player that we were unable to replace. Calling Ninja a success by proxy means an incredible amount of failure.
This is Houston.
If Romo goes to Buffalo he'll play in two of the next five Super Bowls, winning one.
If he comes to Houston he'll miss an average of nine games for the next three years before we let him go.
If Romo goes to Buffalo he'll play in two of the next five Super Bowls, winning one.
If he comes to Houston he'll miss an average of nine games for the next three years before we let him go.
Scooter
Funky
You are old enough to know what happens with a quarterback going to Buffalo. He'll beat us in the most impossible way, and crap out against everyone else.