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2016 Free agent targets

Not a FA that makes me tingle. I guess we will have to find a QB in the Draft................Wait, we draft 21st. -- Hoyer in 2016
 
Give Me

Lamar Miller
Rhett Ellison
Garrett Celek
Marvin Jones
Clark

This would add playmakers with speed to the skill positions and none of these guys are going to break the bank. Miller would be the most expensive 3 yrs 15 mil with 8 mil signing bonus is a starting point.
 
bigmck said:
Not a FA that makes me tingle. I guess we will have to find a QB in the Draft................Wait, we draft 21st. -- Hoyer in 2016
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Cousins
Osweilder
Bradford
Kaapernick
RGiii
Fitzpatrick
Tannehill
Glennon
Stanton

Are all free agents, about to become free agents, or could be easily traded for. I am not recommending everyone on this list. However, i think the list is sufficient to have reasonable hope that it isn't Hoyer in 2016.
 
I wouldn't go spending a bunch of money, but Cousins seems like he could be a good mid-term solution.
 
dalemurphy said:
Cousins
Osweilder
Bradford
Kaapernick
RGiii
Fitzpatrick
Tannehill
Glennon
Stanton

Are all free agents, about to become free agents, or could be easily traded for. I am not recommending everyone on this list. However, i think the list is sufficient to have reasonable hope that it isn't Hoyer in 2016.
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Honestly, this is a better list of free agency than is normally out. while all inconsistent and flawed in some way, I have seen them put together at least a few games of goodness and in couple case a season or more. None are sure things, but any of them bring more hope than Hoyer, Weeden or Savage.
 
TD said:
I wouldn't go spending a bunch of money, but Cousins seems like he could be a good mid-term solution.
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Cousins is probably going to get a "bunch of money" contract from the Redskins. any team going after him is going have give him more than most of us would be comfortable wit.
 
I would definitely take a good look at RG3. There is no doubt about his situation in Washington being the cause of his fall from grace.

He needs a new team. His best has yet to be seen in my opinion.

With that being said, with our luck at quarterback, whoever we go after at that position whether FA or draft, we got to keep him healthy.
 
Skill positions. We need a little bit of everything but we're going to have to get what we need with a mix of FA's and rookies.

QB: I don't see anybody on that list that I care much about. I need to see Hoyer departing. That's important. Once he's out of the building I go ahead and bring back Savage, Weeden, and Yates, then draft another rookie to start developing. We all go to camp and the idea is that Savage beats out Weeden and Yates for the job. He should be able to do that.

Seriously, that list of FA QB's is ugly.

RB: I bring back Grimes, Hunt, and Blue and then I draft the best running back I can get. I'm afraid I probably end up cutting Foster. I hate to do it but I don't think he's going to make it back from this injury and even if he does he's having a harder time staying on the field these days. RB is a young mans position. I kind of wonder if Charles Sims could be pried away from the Bucs.

WR: I'd be interested in kicking the tires on Rishard Matthews (MIA) at WR. No, he's not particularly fast but he plays faster than he runs a 40. My WR's next year are Hopkins, Strong, Shorts, Matthews, Mumphery, and a rookie. Maybe more than one.

TE: I want to fix the TE situation but again nobody is parting with any truly good TE's so I'd focus on the draft instead of free agency for this. At the same time I find myself thinking that while sure, we need a better TE will it even matter? The Texans don't use their TE's nearly as much as I expected them to when OB was brought in so..... No, **** it I want a good TE. No more rationalizing this stuff. We need a guy like Travis Kelce or Tyler Eifert or even Colby Fleener. If all those teams can find useful TE's so can we. Maybe we could get Fiedo some stickum or something?
 
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Ronnie Hilman- low miles, home run hitter.
Percy Harvin- Big time playmaker in the slot or special teams.
Dwane Allen-Complete tight end, can work lbs.
Sammie Lee Hill- Vince got turned alot, needs to get younger and better.
Danny Travetheon- one of the best coverage lbs in the nfl.
 
Free agents are somebody else's rejects. While they can help, we need some real new talent.
 
amazing80 said:
Give me:

Doug Martin
Marvin Jones
Terrance Knighton

Possibly Dwayne Allen
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Doug Martin and Foster would be a nasty combo. Less chance of Foster getting hurt due to lighter work load. Also, if he happens to go down, our team isnt lost in the weeds. Yea it might be a little expensive, but im sure we could make the cap space. Gives us more options for playcalling, better game plan. It would also be a huge relief to any FA QB, Rookie QB, or current QB we have.
 
Robert Griffin III is a good bet to sign with the Dallas Cowboys, but I'm sure he would be open to signing with the Houston Texans if our front office showed any interest.

RG3 just wants to come back home to Texas and try to jump start his NFL career. He should be the healthiest he's been since his solid rookie season coming out of Baylor.

All he needs is good coaching and some offensive weapons around him. I must admit, the thought of Robert Griffin III throwing to DeAndre Hopkins and handing off to Arian Foster in 2016 (if he's healthy and we keep him during his contract year) does intrigue me a little bit.

I'd rather have Colin Kaepernick if the 49ers release him, but Robert Griffin is only 25 years old and has a lot of physical tools you can have success with.

It's kind of funny because when Bill O'Brien hosted a quarterback seminar three years ago while he was still at Penn State, he mentioned both Kaepernick and Griffin as young and successful quarterbacks in the NFL who are not only athletic but accurate passers as well. Who knew at the time he'd be coaching the Houston Texans with a potential chance to land one of those guys to quarterback his team?
 
Seegara said:
Free agents are somebody else's rejects. While they can help, we need some real new talent.
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Signing a free agent quarterback would give us insurance as well as time to develop a rookie quarterback that I also expect us to draft in the upcoming draft.

I wouldn't bring back Brian Hoyer or T.J. Yates. I'd even let Tom Savage go but we'll likely keep him. I'd like to see three new quarterbacks added this off-season but at least two if nothing else.

For example, let's say we sign Robert Griffin III and draft Connor Cook with the 22nd pick. I would expect both of those guys to compete for the starting job going into 2016. Tom Savage will compete too but he'd always be a third-string, injury prone guy to me. I'd rather bring back Brandon Weeden as a third-string QB instead of Tom Savage but that's just me.

But either way, we'll be better off at the QB position going into 2016. If Colin Kaepernick is released by the 49ers then he'd be a guy I'd want instead of RG3 but I like RG3 a lot. I think O'Brien could have success with him.
 
Whoever they target in free agency better have some SPEED, oh yes, and talent! This offense is void of serious talent other than Hopkins and Foster. And Foster is only good for who knows how many games a year, if any at all. I didn't look at the list, but a TE with the ability to make a play or two would be a welcome addition.
 
Before everyone starts spending McNairs money remember: the cap is rising a lot to $153+ million. Lot of these names will likely be resigned by their original teams.
 
Most of the FAs being talked about in this thread will never see the open market. And if they do, there will be a bidding war for their services that we don't want to be a part of.
 
bah007 said:
Most of the FAs being talked about in this thread will never see the open market. And if they do, there will be a bidding war for their services that we don't want to be a part of.
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I've read that Miami is going to let Miller walk and Sanu or Jones will hit the market. Knowing Mike Brown whichever one is the cheapest will stay in Cincy. Which one do you like the best? Jones or Sanu?
 
bah007 said:
Most of the FAs being talked about in this thread will never see the open market. And if they do, there will be a bidding war for their services that we don't want to be a part of.
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Bidding wars, aside from good fortune, is the only way to get a legitimate QB... Whether the war is in dollars or reaching in the draft.
 
steelbtexan said:
I've read that Miami is going to let Miller walk and Sanu or Jones will hit the market. Knowing Mike Brown whichever one is the cheapest will stay in Cincy. Which one do you like the best? Jones or Sanu?
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I think Jones is a better WR, but I just don't see the need to add a quality FA there. I think we have a solid top four of Hopkins, Shorts, Strong, and Mumphery. We can add a fifth in the draft or add a cheaper FA who can maybe chip in on special teams.
 
bah007 said:
I think Jones is a better WR, but I just don't see the need to add a quality FA there. I think we have a solid top four of Hopkins, Shorts, Strong, and Mumphery. We can add a fifth in the draft or add a cheaper FA who can maybe chip in on special teams.
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I get this, but it would be nice to have a WR that could stretch a defense vertically.
 
Seegara said:
Free agents are somebody else's rejects. While they can help, we need some real new talent.
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Or the team they were superstars for couldn't afford to keep the, or the player just wanted to play else where. JoJo/Manning were by no means rejects.
 
steelbtexan said:
I get this, but it would be nice to have a WR that could stretch a defense vertically.
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better have a QB with the arm strength and accuracy to hit those deep throws or that's not a real threat
and, trust me, defensive coordinators will figure that out in a hurry
 
ObsiWan said:
better have a QB with the arm strength and accuracy to hit those deep throws or that's not a real threat
and, trust me, defensive coordinators will figure that out in a hurry
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They will have that type of QB, even if Savage is the QB. Personally I hope they look at bringing RG3 home.
 
steelbtexan said:
I've read that Miami is going to let Miller walk and Sanu or Jones will hit the market. Knowing Mike Brown whichever one is the cheapest will stay in Cincy. Which one do you like the best? Jones or Sanu?
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This is the silly season. Believe none of what you read and half of what you see. No one is a FA until they are a FA. Which Jones are you talking about? I'd give considerably more $$ for Julio Jones than Sanu, even though I really liked Sanu coming out of college.
 
DocBar said:
This is the silly season. Believe none of what you read and half of what you see. No one is a FA until they are a FA. Which Jones are you talking about? I'd give considerably more $$ for Julio Jones than Sanu, even though I really liked Sanu coming out of college.
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Marvin Jones, Sanu's teamate
 
My targets at each position would be,

QB Sam Bradford. I know he's most likely not going to ever be the franchise QB we all want but he's got some talent and he did play pretty good the second half of the season for the Eagles. Bring him in and let him compete with Savage and whoever we draft.

Backup plan
If Kaepernick becomes available replace Bradford with him.

RB Say goodbye to Foster unless he takes a huge paycut. Even if he does take a paycut it's time to replace him as the starter. I'm Going after Doug Martin or Lamar Miller. Both are still young and are solid players.

Backup plan if those two are to expensive, Alfred Morris or Bilal Powell are next on my list.

WR Travis Benjamin, We need speed and he has it. He would be perfect in the slot and he can return punts. Seriously doubt he wants to return to Cleveland. Perfect replacement for Washington.

TE Ladarius Green. Its time we got a real receiving threat TE on this team.

Backup plan, Dwayne Allen is only 26. Had a down year because of injuries to him and his QB's, but when healthy is better than anything we have had in years.

OL I'm looking for a fairly young OT that wont break the bank that can come in and push Newton inside. Mitchell Schwartz, Bobby Massie
Chris Clark. This would allow us to have better qaulity depth on the OL. Brooks and Jones are FA's and this could mean we don't have to worry about resigning Brooks. I would also kick the tires on Alex Mack before resigning Jones at C.

DL/DT Let Wifork go and sign Damon Harrison. He does everything Wilfork does now but better and hes younger. He's one of the better young NT's available. It's going to be hard for the Jets to resign him and Wilkerson. This is the kind of move we should of made instead of bringing in an at the end of his career Wilfork.

DL/DT Derek Wolfe. I really wanted us to draft him a few years ago. Denver can't resign everyone on that great defense. Let Crick move on and replace him with Wolfe.

Obviously we cant get them all but I would be looking hard at all of these guys. Almost all of them would be instant starters and upgrades over what we have now. With a ton of cap space I could see us getting a few of these guys and really improving our team.
 
Rumors of Cj Spiller being cut and based on theway he wasn't used in Orleans i believe it. He's my top target if available.
 
Honestly I don't watch enough non-Texans football to know most of the FAs coming out.

As far as needs though:

RB
TE
DT

I'd see as some of our biggest needs.

I'm in the trade the draft farm to go get whoever we think the franchise QB in the draft is. Don't care for anymore retread QBs.
 
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steelbtexan said:
They will have that type of QB, even if Savage is the QB. Personally I hope they look at bringing RG3 home.
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Lots of people would love to have Rookie RGIII, but the injuries and the complexity of this system make him helping this season unlikely any more than than ANY draft pick.

Savage is probably the best QB already under contract. I'm still not sure Weedon would not make a good FA pick-up, if only as a backup. He played well with a very rushed and limited playbook. And I think after the last two seasons there should be at least 4 QBs ready to step up and start a game. Three on the Roster and one on PS.

I truly believe Hoyer should become a coach. I think he makes the good reads, but just can't deliver.
 
steelbtexan said:
I've read that Miami is going to let Miller walk and Sanu or Jones will hit the market. Knowing Mike Brown whichever one is the cheapest will stay in Cincy. Which one do you like the best? Jones or Sanu?
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Miami is in a tough cap situation. Agreed that Miller will be allowed to test the market, would love to bring him here. I also think Jordan Cameron might get released from Miami as well. With a new front office & coaching staff in Miami...any player (within reason) could maybe be available.
 
Marshall said:
Lots of people would love to have Rookie RGIII, but the injuries and the complexity of this system make him helping this season unlikely any more than than ANY draft pick.

Savage is probably the best QB already under contract.
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Seeing lots of these negative Nellie posts to justify starting Savage and/or not make a vet move and/or justify not taking a QB high in the draft.

Rookie QBs do come in and improve teams - Luck, TB, Wilson - all got better records as rookies.

And not all FA/trade QBs are Hoyer. We got better with yeoman Fitz. So did the Jets. Palmer was tossed away and immediately improved the Cards.

Two years of attending meetings and barely practicing is not some sort of magic talisman of "knowing the system." 3 years for Hoyer and 4 for Mallett with full practice time didn't transform them into experts. FFS we don't even have any idea OB was wrong and Savage was better than Hoyer.
 
Given where our team is at right now, could you justify throwing cousins 4 years $80m with the ability to get out after 2-3 years.

Surely that would give us a starting calibre QB to build around whilst drafting QBs high until we hit on something better.

Given the cap room at our disposal, why not pay big bucks at the most important position, it still leaves us some good space over to sign a few other FAs at other positions as well.

If he works out well, you just got your franchise QB at around or slightly under market rate, if it doesn't, what are you really losing? A couple of marquee FA signings at less important positions who equally may or may not work out.
 
infantrycak said:
Seeing lots of these negative Nellie posts to justify starting Savage and/or not make a vet move and/or justify not taking a QB high in the draft.

Rookie QBs do come in and improve teams - Luck, TB, Wilson - all got better records as rookies.

And not all FA/trade QBs are Hoyer. We got better with yeoman Fitz. So did the Jets. Palmer was tossed away and immediately improved the Cards.

Two years of attending meetings and barely practicing is not some sort of magic talisman of "knowing the system." 3 years for Hoyer and 4 for Mallett with full practice time didn't transform them into experts. FFS we don't even have any idea OB was wrong and Savage was better than Hoyer.
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I'm perfectly ok with a QB competition of Savage, Yates, Weeden and a draft pick. What I want the Texans to avoid is trading away too much to move up and take a QB, reach for a QB and draft one higher than warranted or break the bank in FA, going after Cousins or Osweiler. Hopefully, whichever QB OB covets slips in the draft and either falls to 1.22 or close enough that a deal is workable for the Texans. I honestly think RS and OB were stunned when Minnesota traded back into the 1st and nabbed Bridgewater. It's my opinion that Bridgewater would've been pick 2.1.
There's just so much luck involved with getting a true franchise QB that I don't want to see my favorite team going way out on a limb of a weeping willow tree.
 
DocBar said:
I honestly think RS and OB were stunned when Minnesota traded back into the 1st and nabbed Bridgewater. It's my opinion that Bridgewater would've been pick 2.1.
There's just so much luck involved with getting a true franchise QB that I don't want to see my favorite team going way out on a limb of a weeping willow tree.
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And I'm of the opinion they didn't want TB. If they were stunned by Minnesota's move McNair should have fired both on the spot. Everyone in the football watching world knew any QB hungry team expected the Texans would take a QB. It was talked about for hours as TB fell.
 
welsh texan said:
Given where our team is at right now, could you justify throwing cousins 4 years $80m with the ability to get out after 2-3 years.

Surely that would give us a starting calibre QB to build around whilst drafting QBs high until we hit on something better.

Given the cap room at our disposal, why not pay big bucks at the most important position, it still leaves us some good space over to sign a few other FAs at other positions as well.

If he works out well, you just got your franchise QB at around or slightly under market rate, if it doesn't, what are you really losing? A couple of marquee FA signings at less important positions who equally may or may not work out.
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But it's not just money. Washington (and every other NFL team) has exclusive negotiating rights from now until March 12 with every player with an expiring contract on their roster, and until March 15th they're the only team that can actually enter into a contract with them. And there's always the franchise tag, and it's been mentioned that Washington will probably use it on him if an agreement can't be reached prior to the deadline.

The Texans could be willing to make Kirk Cousins the highest paid player in NFL history, and even if Cousins is fully aware of their intent to do that, the Redskins can easily prevent it from happening.
 
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