Oh no no more man to man all game long. I'm going to miss that. Not!
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O'Brien & His Coaching Staffs
- Thread starter PockyAF
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Oh no no more man to man all game long. I'm going to miss that. Not!
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Oh, damn.
It's going to be too mentally taxing on our players! They're going to play slower again.
:mariopalm:
Doppelganger
None
He has been a head coach in the NFL...NFL Europe that is.
1998: England Monarchs Defensive line coach
1999-2003: Scottish Claymores Defensive line coach
2004-2005 Berlin Thunder Defensive coordinator
2006: Rhein Fire (2006) Head coach
2007: San Francisco 49ers Defensive line coach
2010: San Francisco 49ers Interim head coach (for 1 game after Mike Singletary was fired)
Yeh Wade had two game plans this last year:
Game Plan A: Man to Man
Game Plan B: Zone
Never the twain shall meet.
It was obvious things were over when Wade went to the Texans archive and pulled out the Richard Smith tapes and went to the 12 yard corner buffer.
So my eyes were deceiving me when they did that sh!t in week one against the Chaaagers ?!
That's been one of my biggest pet peeves of the entire era .... reminds me so much of the Dumass Capers .... errr Keystone Capers era with P-Burnt playing 7+ yards off the LOS on 3rd & short / X & goal.
Oh FFS .... someone give me a valium.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
Just realized I will use the initials BOB for Mr. Bill O'Brien.
Just use BO... or not...
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
It's not about who he brings with him, it's about what he will do if they fail.
I am not sure how much weight I put in the "coaching tree failed so this guy will fail". If the guy fails, it'll be for a multitude of reasons, like personnel evaluation, etc.
We will find out who BOB is when he starts coaching. He's clearly a guy who wants his players to be thinkers pre-game and on the field. I think that was Kubiak's biggest failing is that he called 2 plays and the players could only run those 2 plays on the field. NE essentially kills people every year by adapting on the fly and that's what we need.
Whether that happens remains to be seen.
We will find out who BOB is when he starts coaching. He's clearly a guy who wants his players to be thinkers pre-game and on the field. I think that was Kubiak's biggest failing is that he called 2 plays and the players could only run those 2 plays on the field. NE essentially kills people every year by adapting on the fly and that's what we need.
Whether that happens remains to be seen.
Grams
Veteran
But it sure sounds more exciting than what we have been doing!
Of course coverages in the defensive secondary are a function of the front end of the defense to a degree, but the front 7 is what Wade's all about. He's a man willing to be flexible, wants to remain in Houston for personal reasons, so I don't think it's a sure thing that he's gone. O'Brien will probably want to concentrate exclusively on the offensive side of the game, so he might welcome a DC with Wade's lengthy NFL resume who at the same time is very laid-back type who might be compatible with a firebrand like O'Brien.
281
Veteran
Agreed. What people may not realize with BOB is that he is one of the only first-time NFL head coaches from the "Belichick tree" that has previous (as well as successful) head coaching experience, which is unlike Josh McDaniels, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Jim Schwartz, etc...
speedfreek
All Pro
Great, Glad to know we've got another head coach that likes
to put his buddies on the gravy train with him.
Wonder if he has a guy in mind for GM?
Kubiak part deux
Does anyone know if any of those people have a lick of
pro experience?
TJ
to put his buddies on the gravy train with him.
Wonder if he has a guy in mind for GM?
Kubiak part deux
Does anyone know if any of those people have a lick of
pro experience?
TJ
No one even knows if anyone is coming with him.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
EVERY HC leans heavily on buddies or folks recommended by buddies.
MistaRed
Rookie
Apparently he's bringing his assistant HC/WR coach Stan Hixon with him.
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2014/01/penn_state_assistant_stan_hixo.html
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2014/01/penn_state_assistant_stan_hixo.html
Hixon has 8 years experience coaching WRs in the NFL, in addition to 25 years coaching in college. He has the resume.
Fans here are so ready to complain it's like they lose all common sense.
Didn't the Texans conduct multi-hour interviews?
Don't you think one of the questions was something like "Who would you see filling out your staff?"
And don't you think the interview wouldn't have gone very well if he had responded by telling McNair he intended to create PSU south in Houston?
I don't think Smith and McNair are going to build his staff for him, but I highly doubt any HC would be given such a good NFL job if he didn't intend to use the lure of an NFL gig to get some really talented people here.
Didn't the Texans conduct multi-hour interviews?
Don't you think one of the questions was something like "Who would you see filling out your staff?"
And don't you think the interview wouldn't have gone very well if he had responded by telling McNair he intended to create PSU south in Houston?
I don't think Smith and McNair are going to build his staff for him, but I highly doubt any HC would be given such a good NFL job if he didn't intend to use the lure of an NFL gig to get some really talented people here.
Texian
Hall of Fame
also known as basic human behavior and the difference between a successful HC or being another example of the Peter Principle.
Care to expound? Show me a recent HC hire that succeeded that hired noone he knew
Texian
Hall of Fame
It's not so much as no one he knows and more to do with hiring the best and brightest coaches he can find vs hiring friend and buddies, Belichick vs Kubiak.
It would be nice to find the next Belichick, you know where to find him?
It's pretty much a stretch to compare just about anyone with Belichick.
And last I heard, he's got a job.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Try Jimbo Fisher
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
And if Jimbo Fisher brought his buddies along with him, would you cry "David Shaw"?
Does he have any desire to coach in the pros?
Last I looked there were a handful of coaching gigs open in the NFL and Jimbo just signed a big fat contract extension.
CretorFrigg
Fire Rick Smith
You need someone who knows and understands your system to teach your system. It doesn't mean they aren't the best and brightest minds. You can't have an eclectic bunch of coaches contradicting each other and coaching our players differently.
Bill O'Brien trains with Belichick but is derided as 'not the next Belihick' before his hiring is even announced.
Meanwhile Jimbo Fisher is?
And all because of one statement?
Texian
Hall of Fame
I don't know, you asked me to find you the next Belichick, I obliged. My guess is YES, most all coaches aspire to the highest level. I think Jimbo would be more like Jimmy Johnson than Steve Spurrier.
Lou Holtz told me that he knew in his first week as head coach of the New York Jets that he didn't enjoy it. It was not fun and college was much more rewarding for him. Lou also told me that the reason he was successful is because he knew how to win more football games than his fellow college head coaches.
Yeah, but you can't be the next Belichick by staying in College.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Yep, some smart owner has to offer you the job and someone will.
If he's good, some owner or 3 did contact him.
Texian
Hall of Fame
I am being real, some head coaches search out the best and brightest for their staff and other head coaches reward their friends and their recommendations. NFL coaching is not like any other job, there are only 32 NFL Head Coaches. If NFL coaching is like any other job so is commanding an USN aircraft carrier.
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281
Veteran
I'm just saying coaches usually hire coaches they know. Kubiak wasn't alone.
Low self esteem
Playoffs
Hall of Fame
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
I coach at the middle and high school level... While that certainly doesn't qualify me to speak to NFL coaching, here's what I know: coaching, particularly in football, is a highly collaborative effort. Any lack of trust, understanding, agreement amongst the staff at fundamental levels makes the team weaker. Also, as the level of competition increases (from middle to high school, for instance), the importance of collaboration also increases significantly.
I don't think hiring coaching "friends" is about favoritism, weakness, or anything of the sort. Instead, it is about bringing together the best collection of collaborative partners possible. This is a good thing and an important part of staff-building... It is also the reason why I have been opposed to Cowher as the Texans' new head coach- I think he's been away from the game for too long to quickly unite a collaborative group of coaches that could quickly win.
You personally know Lou Holtz?
Texian
Hall of Fame
Yes, kind of....I hired him to speak at company event. I met him at airport spent an hour with him before he retired. He told me to meet him next morning at 5:00AM for breakfast. We spent 2 hours discussing company info and going over info he could use for his speech later that AM. At 8 am we jumped in back of limo for ride to venue. After his speech, autographs and pictures I took him to the airport. Lots of good and funny stories, many I can't tell here. We had met briefly before this at Augusta National but he did not remember. I doubt he would remember me today as this was 12 years ago.
And you're sure Belichick never hired anyone he'd had previous experience with...? ...that wasn't considered a friend? You know this?
Obsi, good coaches don't do that, and Belichick is a genius.
Texian
Hall of Fame
I'm not saying Belichick never hired anyone he had worked with before. I'm sure he did but he hired him because Belichick thought he was bright intelligent coach not because he was a friend or good old boy.
aussie_texan
Veteran
i would be happy with Hixon has the OC. but i want a big name or high potential guy as the DC
Gawd-dangit..... Now we're going to get a bunch of New England assistants....
What's that story about the briar patch again?
bhsman
Rookie
Braddock was just mentioning names that O'Brien might consider due to his ties in NE; the Oline and TE coaches, in particular, would be very intriguing hires.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Found some information on a potential addition by way of Texans TV. Interview with Drew Dougherty below where he mentions his 'right hand man' at Penn State.
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...l-OBrien/d5602801-6fd5-4f42-a249-0ec82d17cff1
Took me a while to get the name right but he is talking about Jim Bernhardt. Couple of articles about him below:
http://footballscoop.com/news/9455-a-day-in-the-life-of-bill-o-brien-s-right-hand-man
"But at none of those stops was he as busy, or juggle as much responsibility, as he does now in a non-coaching role working with Bill O'Brien at Penn State."
"Its a vital position for me, OBrien said in a recent interview. You have to have somebody who can come in here and critique you. Who is critiquing the head coach? Obviously you have a boss, which is the athletic director. Theyre in the Bryce Jordan Center and critiquing me on the overall program. Jimmy is critiquing me on a day-to-day basis, and not just critiquing me but critiquing the program in a constructive way," O'Brien told Audrey Snyder of PennLive.com. He critiques me on X's and O's, on motivational things, overall recruiting ideas, OBrien said. Its maybe something in the weight room, something structurally in this facility. He helps make the schedule.
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/04/mystery_man_meet_jim_bernhardt.html
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...l-OBrien/d5602801-6fd5-4f42-a249-0ec82d17cff1
Took me a while to get the name right but he is talking about Jim Bernhardt. Couple of articles about him below:
http://footballscoop.com/news/9455-a-day-in-the-life-of-bill-o-brien-s-right-hand-man
"But at none of those stops was he as busy, or juggle as much responsibility, as he does now in a non-coaching role working with Bill O'Brien at Penn State."
"Its a vital position for me, OBrien said in a recent interview. You have to have somebody who can come in here and critique you. Who is critiquing the head coach? Obviously you have a boss, which is the athletic director. Theyre in the Bryce Jordan Center and critiquing me on the overall program. Jimmy is critiquing me on a day-to-day basis, and not just critiquing me but critiquing the program in a constructive way," O'Brien told Audrey Snyder of PennLive.com. He critiques me on X's and O's, on motivational things, overall recruiting ideas, OBrien said. Its maybe something in the weight room, something structurally in this facility. He helps make the schedule.
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2013/04/mystery_man_meet_jim_bernhardt.html
b0ng
Bad Hombre
Dante Scarnecchia is a pipe dream and would probably hurt NE a lot if he left to Houston. He's been there for so long it's pretty inconceivable that he would just up and move for O'Brien when so many other Pats coordinators have left and I'm sure offered him promotions on other teams.