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Ed Reed calls out the coaching staff? :kitten:

thanks coach reed, you were out coached & played... double whammy for you!!

good to see you on special teams though. oh how the mighty have fallen..
 
Trap_Star said:
ed reed shouldn't be calling anyone out.
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Ed Reed is probably calling out the coaching staff because he's thinking about possibly becoming our next defensive backs coach? Time to be moving on to a new job soon because he's washed up and done as a player.
 
Trap_Star said:
ed reed shouldn't be calling anyone out.
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That's a fact. I'm going to go ahead and say what I think a lot of people are thinking about now. Bringing Ed Reed to Houston put a kind of cancer in our locker room. He speaks with the authority of a respected veteran but he's not a member of this team. He's a hired gun and a hired gun shooting blanks on top of everything. The entire locker room saw Glover Quinn go out the door like so many other players we've not made any effort to keep or outright let go due to money and then they watched us spend money on this old crack dealer hobo son of a *****. That he does nothing to earn, reveals that he held back vital information about his health, goes and has surgery and finally doesn't even get on a practice field until camp is almost over.

He's literally stepped into this locker room and played the team that pays him for a fool. He's been rewarded for a reputation he didn't even earn here while we send players we drafted out the door because we can't or won't pay them what they'll be worth on the open market.

I think he's divisive and his presence is an enormous distraction for this team. I think the coaching staff has made decisions based on the assumption that he'd be a contributor and that hasn't happened. That's put the team in a precarious position. He needs to be sent packing.

When we cut all those bottom of the roster guys we should have send Ed home too. I've seen the Texans pick up better safeties than we have right now off the street over the years. I've definitely seen them get better play than they get from Ed Reed out of street free agents.
 
Hervoyel said:
That's a fact. I'm going to go ahead and say what I think a lot of people are thinking about now. Bringing Ed Reed to Houston put a kind of cancer in our locker room. He speaks with the authority of a respected veteran but he's not a member of this team. He's a hired gun and a hired gun shooting blanks on top of everything. The entire locker room saw Glover Quinn go out the door like so many other players we've not made any effort to keep or outright let go due to money and then they watched us spend money on this old crack dealer hobo son of a *****. That he does nothing to earn, reveals that he held back vital information about his health, goes and has surgery and finally doesn't even get on a practice field until camp is almost over.

He's literally stepped into this locker room and played the team that pays him for a fool. He's been rewarded for a reputation he didn't even earn here while we send players we drafted out the door because we can't or won't pay them what they'll be worth on the open market.

I think he's divisive and his presence is an enormous distraction for this team. I think the coaching staff has made decisions based on the assumption that he'd be a contributor and that hasn't happened. That's put the team in a precarious position. He needs to be sent packing.

When we cut all those bottom of the roster guys we should have send Ed home too. I've seen the Texans pick up better safeties than we have right now off the street over the years. I've definitely seen them get better play than they get from Ed Reed out of street free agents.
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Herv,

While I disagree that he's a "cancer," and I think comparing him to a crack dealer is unfair, I do think that this franchise, and this fanbase, went overboard when we were going after Reed. I remember telling a buddy of mine: "I think Reed is old, and we are overdoing this whole thing."

Reed used us for leverage. And we went overboard: the media coverage, Rick Smith flying the jet to pick him up, etc.

The truth is, Baltimore let him go for a reason.
 
Well.......he's right.

While he's definitely not the solution, he knows what a good defense is supposed to look like.
 
Hervoyel said:
That's a fact. I'm going to go ahead and say what I think a lot of people are thinking about now. Bringing Ed Reed to Houston put a kind of cancer in our locker room. He speaks with the authority of a respected veteran but he's not a member of this team. He's a hired gun and a hired gun shooting blanks on top of everything. The entire locker room saw Glover Quinn go out the door like so many other players we've not made any effort to keep or outright let go due to money and then they watched us spend money on this old crack dealer hobo son of a *****. That he does nothing to earn, reveals that he held back vital information about his health, goes and has surgery and finally doesn't even get on a practice field until camp is almost over.

He's literally stepped into this locker room and played the team that pays him for a fool. He's been rewarded for a reputation he didn't even earn here while we send players we drafted out the door because we can't or won't pay them what they'll be worth on the open market.

I think he's divisive and his presence is an enormous distraction for this team. I think the coaching staff has made decisions based on the assumption that he'd be a contributor and that hasn't happened. That's put the team in a precarious position. He needs to be sent packing.

When we cut all those bottom of the roster guys we should have send Ed home too. I've seen the Texans pick up better safeties than we have right now off the street over the years. I've definitely seen them get better play than they get from Ed Reed out of street free agents.
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Tried to rep this.

The Texans have been outplayed every time Ed Reed has been on the field, and out coached every time the Texans coaches have chosen to put Ed Reed on the field. Or sign Ed Reed.
 
dtran04 said:
Well.......he's right.

While he's definitely not the solution, he knows what a good defense is supposed to look like.
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Ed Reed is going to earn his money for the Houston Texans one day. Unfortunately, it's going to be as part of the coaching staff and not as a player.
 
The 29th ranked offense (23rd in scoring) scored 20 points on the #1 defense in the league.

I think it's an inside job.
 
Trap_Star said:
ed reed shouldn't be calling anyone out.
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While Reed hasn't exactly been a play maker in this defense, he has experience and he isn't saying anyone that hasn't watched this team all season by now should suspect or already know to be true.

We lose in the second half not just because of random circumstances (although that does play a part) but because our coaching staff seems to think no one will adjust to their initial offensive plans and when things go off schedule or rhythm they collapse.

Defensively, the team is better but at the same time, we demote Ed Reed and Brice McCain who has done less in this season is still our #3 CB and was given the nod to cover the likes of Larry Fitzgerald when he hasn't been able to cover most everyone he went up against this season. We don't rotate our OLBs when we see Brooks Reed and lately Whitney Mercilus miss, fail to arrive on time or just be out of position for plays multiple times EVERY game.

And credit to Brooks Reed for his hustle but if most of his tackles are happening yards beyond the line of scrimmage or QB hits/hurries after completed passes then he isn't doing his job despite getting all these nice stats and effort plays.
 
Thanks Capt Obvious, but when you lose its pretty safe to say you were outplayed and outcoached. Thats why they keep score.
 
Reed has the perspective of how a championship team is managed. Anyone who's truly interested in their team improving shouldn't instinctively dismiss criticism.
 
I haven't seen Reed get burned for a touchdown this season. I guess everyone expected 10 ints.

Reed is a champion, and I'm embarrassed for him to have to end his career on this joke of a team.
 
Hervoyel said:
That's a fact. I'm going to go ahead and say what I think a lot of people are thinking about now. Bringing Ed Reed to Houston put a kind of cancer in our locker room. He speaks with the authority of a respected veteran but he's not a member of this team. He's a hired gun and a hired gun shooting blanks on top of everything. The entire locker room saw Glover Quinn go out the door like so many other players we've not made any effort to keep or outright let go due to money and then they watched us spend money on this old crack dealer hobo son of a *****. That he does nothing to earn, reveals that he held back vital information about his health, goes and has surgery and finally doesn't even get on a practice field until camp is almost over.

He's literally stepped into this locker room and played the team that pays him for a fool. He's been rewarded for a reputation he didn't even earn here while we send players we drafted out the door because we can't or won't pay them what they'll be worth on the open market.

I think he's divisive and his presence is an enormous distraction for this team. I think the coaching staff has made decisions based on the assumption that he'd be a contributor and that hasn't happened. That's put the team in a precarious position. He needs to be sent packing.

When we cut all those bottom of the roster guys we should have send Ed home too. I've seen the Texans pick up better safeties than we have right now off the street over the years. I've definitely seen them get better play than they get from Ed Reed out of street free agents.
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I am doing a slow clap after reading your post. I couldn't agree more. Cut his ass immediately. I watched the Lions-Bears game on Sunday Ticket and Glove Quinn as making plays all game.
 
Mr. Texan said:
https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/399705403799248896

Ed Reed said #Texans were at time outplayed, outcoached.

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/399705623123607552

Ed Reed said at times Texans were fatigued. Needed to make changes.

https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/status/399707600016531456

Ed Reed said there are things he wants to say but can't. Has to keep things in house. #Texans

:kitten:
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I'm sorry.. I clicked on this thread hoping to blast the guy, but I couldn't.. everything he said was 100% correct.. Texan fans need to remove "Ed Reed said" from the equation and read exactly what was said.. he hit the nail on the head.
 
I say Kudos to Ed Reed for at least saying what I wish a lot of players would have said many years ago during the failed seasons. Ed Reed is just speaking the truth and stating what is happening. Sure, he may be part of the problem but he is acknowledging that at least and calling out what are a lot of the main sources of the general problem. I hope that Reed and other players finally do speak out and call this sham what it is.
 
What Reed said is what many here have been commenting upon. However, we also know that Reed is unable to change the issues on the field or in the locker room.

His comments today do more harm than good, given the lack of substance. I would not be surprised if the FO source and Ed Reed are one in the same or in cahoots.

Rick Smith needs to go.
 
https://twitter.com/TwentyER/status/399722977014476801

Speak the truth no matter what, in hope that it helps someone along the way!

https://twitter.com/TwentyER/status/399728268238016512

I realized bc u play fantasy football and yeah you love your team doesn't make you a coach or a great player! People it's more2 what u see!

https://twitter.com/TwentyER/status/399729272572903425

There's schemes,assignment,it's called situational football!I'm a true professional 4 awhile now have some respect here4 your entertainment

:kitten:
 
SchaubApologist said:
thanks coach reed, you were out coached & played... double whammy for you!!

good to see you on special teams though. oh how the mighty have fallen..
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Not really Ed's fault that we threw money at yet another over the hill free agent. At least we can use his 2014 and 2015 money once we cut him, Schaub, and possibly a couple of other guys to resign Watt, probably Jackson...ect.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I'm sorry.. I clicked on this thread hoping to blast the guy, but I couldn't.. everything he said was 100% correct.. Texan fans need to remove "Ed Reed said" from the equation and read exactly what was said.. he hit the nail on the head.
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What Reed said is exactly what had been leaked earlier about the Texans coaching staff and playing players too long, etc.
 
it seems like we get "OUT" everything LOL

o boy this season is going realllyyyy bad if we don't start winning LOL
 
Its hard to fault someone for telling the truth. Now if we could get some offensive players to do the same, maybe we could get a new coaching staff next year. We really need Bob to realize that things aren't hunky dory on Kirby...
 
eriadoc said:
Tried to rep this.

The Texans have been outplayed every time Ed Reed has been on the field, and out coached every time the Texans coaches have chosen to put Ed Reed on the field. Or sign Ed Reed.
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Texans record this season without Ed Reed suiting up - 2-0
Texans record this season with Ed Reed in the lineup - 0-7.


Yeah, maybe there is a correlation.
 
cstyle42 said:
He won a superbowl on the field so he knows what it takes can't take that away just because he's past his prime.
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That's all fine and well, but let's not pretend like Ed Reed really has this team's best interest in mind. Aside from being an absolute bust of a signing, where were these comments 2, 3, 4, 5 losses ago when what was really needed to be said went unsaid? Why now after any hope was already gone? Why now after the game he was officially removed as a starter?

Ed Reed will be gone after this year $6M richer and he won't even give a damn what happens to the Houston Texans going forward.
 
Reed may be right, but he should STFU and focus his efforts on getting to a point where he is at least worth League Minimum. Of course when you've played in the NFL for 47 years like Ed has his $6 mil probably is vet min.
 
He still sees himself as a big bad hurricane. But now he's nothing more than a washed up player that needs to use the hurrycane walker. I don't give a schit what he did before for another team. He hasn't done squat here and therefore needs to shut his yapper until he does something other than miss tackles or get burned.


https://www.hurrycane.com/?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
 
I don't get it.. He's actually calling out what's wrong with this team and you guys are bashing him for it? Does he have no credibility as to what a championship organization should be? You guys need to get off your " high horses " and get back to reality. Sure he's not the Reed that he used to be but he knows the game. Our coaching sucks and he's making it public.. Why hate on the truth? Does the truth hurt that much?
 
Hervoyel said:
That's a fact. I'm going to go ahead and say what I think a lot of people are thinking about now. Bringing Ed Reed to Houston put a kind of cancer in our locker room. He speaks with the authority of a respected veteran but he's not a member of this team. He's a hired gun and a hired gun shooting blanks on top of everything. The entire locker room saw Glover Quinn go out the door like so many other players we've not made any effort to keep or outright let go due to money and then they watched us spend money on this old crack dealer hobo son of a *****. That he does nothing to earn, reveals that he held back vital information about his health, goes and has surgery and finally doesn't even get on a practice field until camp is almost over.

He's literally stepped into this locker room and played the team that pays him for a fool. He's been rewarded for a reputation he didn't even earn here while we send players we drafted out the door because we can't or won't pay them what they'll be worth on the open market.

I think he's divisive and his presence is an enormous distraction for this team. I think the coaching staff has made decisions based on the assumption that he'd be a contributor and that hasn't happened. That's put the team in a precarious position. He needs to be sent packing.

When we cut all those bottom of the roster guys we should have send Ed home too. I've seen the Texans pick up better safeties than we have right now off the street over the years. I've definitely seen them get better play than they get from Ed Reed out of street free agents.
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Brisco_County said:
Reed has the perspective of how a championship team is managed. Anyone who's truly interested in their team improving shouldn't instinctively dismiss criticism.
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Actually, I think to a large extent both of these are true. Ed reed knows what a well run organization looks like, but he himself has been miscast as a true leader. also, it hard to lead guys who know that you while great at advice really can't play any differently than Eddie Pleasant.


I always feel that veteran 'leadership' mostly comes from players already within an organization. In free agency, an organization has to buy tangible production. "leadership" is an intangible because like the definition says the value is not known.
 
CorpusTexan said:
I don't get it.. He's actually calling out what's wrong with this team and you guys are bashing him for it? Does he have no credibility as to what a championship organization should be? You guys need to get off your " high horses " and get back to reality. Sure he's not the Reed that he used to be but he knows the game. Our coaching sucks and he's making it public.. Why hate on the truth? Does the truth hurt that much?
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Even from my high horse I can see that the coaching staff sucks too but I can also see that he clearly sucks too. He forgot to mention his lack of contributions. I'm just pointing out that his sorry ass is also part of the problem.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Actually, I think to a large extent both of these are true. Ed reed knows what a well run organization looks like, but he himself has been miscast as a true leader. also, it hard to lead guys who know that you while great at advice really can't play any differently than Eddie Pleasant.


I always feel that veteran 'leadership' mostly comes from players already within an organization. In free agency, an organization has to buy tangible production. "leadership" is an intangible because like the definition says the value is not known.
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Wow. Well said and I agree 1000000 percent.
 
Texecutioner said:
I say Kudos to Ed Reed for at least saying what I wish a lot of players would have said many years ago during the failed seasons. Ed Reed is just speaking the truth and stating what is happening. Sure, he may be part of the problem but he is acknowledging that at least and calling out what are a lot of the main sources of the general problem. I hope that Reed and other players finally do speak out and call this sham what it is.
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Unfortunately, reed has not put in the time and played for this team at a level where he can be a strong, vocal leader. The texans took the risk on him because they know they need the kind of veteran leadership that he can offer. They also knew this kind of stuff would happen if the season went poorly... Or they should have known it... People know ed reed.. That he will speak his mind and that he does not handle losing well.

By the way, he is right to be frustrated... When a defense that has JJ watt and a team full of early round draft picks and high priced free agents gets shredded by an over the hill Carson Palmer and mendenhall, clearly the coaches got whipped bad. I saw it. They manipulated our defense all day... Knew what to expect and what they could exploit. Not pretty... And don't get me started on special teams and the inability of the offense to adjust to safeties and linebackers blitzing the a gap every freak play... How about a max protection pass play with a post corner or sluggo... Something! Or, God forbid we run a middle screen once in the game, other than on 3rd and 20- which every NFL defense knows is our tendency...

Well, we have dodged one bullet- wade won't replace Kubiak if he resigns or is asked to resign at the end of the year. Marciano will be gone to. This nightmare of a season has shined a spotlight on some things that will have to be addressed.
 
Hmm.. All i see is a twitter post by someone who said Reed said something that we all knew after the game.

- we got outcoached again, this has historically been a problem in houston we have all seen.
- we looked tired, yah half our team is a walking injury.. shocker.
- there are things he would like to say but keeping it in house..

Not a real shocker either. Everyone can say what they want but we have all already seen what Ed is talking about, so this should be no real shocker to anyone on this board. You may be unhappy with Ed Reed's play but hey maybe at least we'll get some real coaches.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
Even from my high horse I can see that the coaching staff sucks too but I can also see that he clearly sucks too. He forgot to mention his lack of contributions. I'm just pointing out that his sorry ass is also part of the problem.
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That does not discredit his comments:smiliepalm:
 
the fact so many of you are hung up on quin shows the lack of knowledge for the salary cap and how it works especially long term......give it a rest already


reed said what watt and 80 should be saying.....its time for our players to speak up and send a message to our fo. theyve been playing ball all their lives, most come from winning backgrounds, they know when the coaches are failing the team by not adjusting and not being smart with the lineup.....bash reed all you want for his play here, but his words are 100% truth
 
RunningTheSouth said:
Reed sucks, he'll be gone after this season.
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Ed Reed won't go down in history as sucking but for far the Houston Texans will and that's the reality here. Stupid idiots he's old I don't know why most people cannot take this understanding to mind he is waaay past his prime... look at the management on that not Ed Reed. Unfortunately Ed Reed isn't the docile type communicater Andre Johnson is he tells the absolute truth when it comes to team play and coaching.
 
amazing80 said:
the fact so many of you are hung up on quin shows the lack of knowledge for the salary cap and how it works especially long term......give it a rest already


reed said what watt and 80 should be saying.....its time for our players to speak up and send a message to our fo. theyve been playing ball all their lives, most come from winning backgrounds, they know when the coaches are failing the team by not adjusting and not being smart with the lineup.....bash reed all you want for his play here, but his words are 100% truth
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Thank you!
 
amazing80 said:
the fact so many of you are hung up on quin shows the lack of knowledge for the salary cap and how it works especially long term......give it a rest already


reed said what watt and 80 should be saying.....its time for our players to speak up and send a message to our fo. theyve been playing ball all their lives, most come from winning backgrounds, they know when the coaches are failing the team by not adjusting and not being smart with the lineup.....bash reed all you want for his play here, but his words are 100% truth
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The Quin focus is proper. The Texans made the choice to not sign a player entering into his peek years of tangible production for an injured guy for 'intangibles." quin's contract with Detroit was not so big that could not fit into this salary cap both short and long term.

Interestly, enough Quin was the one player on the squad who looked (from the outside of course) he was starting to develop into a team leader.
 
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