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He didn't pay Schaub $100M dollars. He didn't pay Barwin $5M/yr. He didn't pay $5M/yr for Briesel, or Quin, or Casey. He didn't franchise Dunta a 2nd time. He didn't let Winston stay & steal our money (he wouldn't have played any better than Newton).
Some good, some bad. At least he's not Casserly. We'd have signed Reed for 6 years $60M, probably would have kicked a 5th round pick to Baltimore for the heck of it.
Via Mark Berman
Texans owner Bob McNair on Case Keenum: "I thought he did a heck of a job. He was outstanding."
Texans owner Bob McNair on Case Keenum: "If we had given him a little better protection at the end I think he'd gotten us down the field again
Bob McNair on Gary Kubiak: "How can anybody get a team playing harder than this team was playing. I don't know how anybody can criticize him
When 2 of your best players R out, your starting QB is out, your still out there playing right down to the wire. What more can u ask of your coaches.
We're better than our record, but as we say you are what your record is too. We just got to get it going
Via Mark Berman
Bob McNair on Gary Kubiak: "How can anybody get a team playing harder than this team was playing. I don't know how anybody can criticize him
When 2 of your best players R out, your starting QB is out, your still out there playing right down to the wire. What more can u ask of your coaches.
We're better than our record, but as we say you are what your record is too. We just got to get it going[/I]
“You couldn’t play any harder,” McNair said. “In spite of Arian (Foster) and (Brian) Cushing going out, we had a chance to win right until the end. You couldn’t ask for any better effort out of our players. I was really proud of them.
“I’m discouraged we lost. We played extremely hard against a good club. Give them credit. If we keep playing the way we’d played today, we’ll win a lot of games.”
As for the five-game losing streak, he said, “We don’t have them all on the field. That’s got something to do with it. And some haven’t been playing up to the level they’re playing now.
“The talent is certainly there, but the ball hasn’t bounced our way yet. It’s hard because we’re better than our record, but you are what your record is. We’ve got to get it going.”
Keenum threw for 271 yards in his first start.
“I thought he did a hell of a job,” McNair said. “He was outstanding. If we’d have given him better protection at the end, I think he’d have gotten us down the field again.
“He showed a lot of poise. I was proud of the way he played.”
I can't imagine how I would have handled those questions, so soon after the game, if I were McNair.
Gary Kubiak.....a rich tradition of getting outcoached since 2006.
Gary is going to stay. Bob has his back......
- Time management in the first half. That was just a poor job on Kubiak's part.
Time management wasn't bad. Kubiak wanted to RUN OUT THE CLOCK, as he always does at the end of halves because he doesn't want to take any chances. The Texans offense screwed up his plan of getting off the field and into the locker room by actually gaining some yards and putting them in the position to maybe get a FG.
So, the Texans were performing well DESPITE Kubiak. Only when they got within some sort of striking distance did he realize that Keenum could make something happen and started to use his two time outs.
Typical horrible gutless Kubiak playcalling. He plays to not lose the game, doesn't get aggressive or assertive in any way, and we wonder why we feel this team has reached its peak under him. He has NO balls. ZERO testicles. My two neutered male dogs, who both squat like girls to pee, have more balls than Kubiak.
He's outmatched in today's NFL. This ain't the 80's anymore. Him and Wade look completely clueless.
I just thought I'd quote this. It was posted in 2009.
2009.
Yeah I remember that day like it was yesterday. That was after we got embarrassed by the Jets and made Mark Sanchez a crossover pop culture star.
I was so upset over that loss, I wasn't able to go to sleep that night. There's probably evidence of it in this thread. I'm sure it makes for an entertaining read.
I've reevaluated my life since then. I try to keep my fanhood in perspective nowadays considering that I have less than zero control over the way this team does things.
True BoB is going to do what BoB's going to do.
But enough is enough. If this season continues on its current course and I'm not talking strictly about W/L's then as a decade long season ticket holder I'm done if no major changes are made.
I bet I will not be the only one.
i feel like i've read this somewhere before ... repeatedly ... by the same person ... again.
8 yrs
How many yrs before BoB decides Gary isn't the man to Lead his org to a SB?
That's if BoB even cares about getting to a SB.
Fans that want to blame Gary/Schaub should really be looking at BoB and the way he goes about his business.
Wow, I was JUST telling a co-worker about 10 minutes ago that, at some point, Bob McNair will have to answer to season ticket holders. Letting a coach flail for 8 years - while other teams re-boot in two, three and four years - is unacceptable.
Something has got to give with this team.
Unfortunately for fans, the owners have instituted a perfect diabolical plan to counter any potential situation that would have season ticket holders giving up in substantial numbers.
That plan is called personal seat licenses - aka PSLs.
Franchise after franchise has implemented this plan with each new taxpayer funded stadium built, and it all but guarantees "sell outs" regardless of the results on the field. We need look no further than our own Houston Texans as a perfect example of this plan in action over many years. They brag about 11 seasons of "sell outs", in spite of winning just two playoff games and only three winning seasons in that span of time.
Attendance might go down as a by-product of shoddy product, but make no mistake, the owner and league still makes a nice profit and do not concern themselves with mass fan exodus due to the PSL "investment".
The bolded part is the most important part, and is spot on. This is Kubiak's 8th season. He has made the playoffs twice, and has two playoff wins. I don't know of any coach recently in the NFL that has had this many years with one team with this little success. If there is, please correct me.
Exactly what I saw. After the run, call time out and work sidelines for yardage. I was yelling at the tv. TV yelled back that Gary was afraid of a pick six. What irks me is we could have won this game.Did y'all see the end of the first half with something like 50 seconds left and 2 time outs? Kubiak looked like he wanted to run the clock out. First down, out comes the run for a good gain. No time out called. Second play is a run. No time out called after a good gain. Suddenly, the Texans have a change to get in field goal range, but Kubiak called his usual testicle-free end of half conservative bullsheet and we ran out of time to give Keenum a chance to move the ball a little more to get into FG range.
The Texans mistakenly played some good offense and foiled Gary's plan to run the clock out.
FIRE KUBIAK. His non-aggressive p*ssy playcalling is costing this team. We HAD a chance to get into field goal range if he just let the team go for something other than his safe playcalling.
I'm actively hating him now. Frack that guy. FRACK HIM.
The bolded part is the most important part, and is spot on. This is Kubiak's 8th season. He has made the playoffs twice, and has two playoff wins. I don't know of any coach recently in the NFL that has had this many years with one team with this little success. If there is, please correct me.
So, season ticket holders aren't important? Nope. Ain't buying it.
Most season ticket holders have accepted the PSL - which were usually paid years ago - as a sunk cost. True, no one wants to give that sunk cost up, but a lot of ticket holders will weigh giving up that sunk cost against constantly rising costs of tickets for a meidocre team.
Also, owners get quite a bit of revenue from parking (which, at Reliant, has almost doubled over the last several years) and concessions.
You cannot raise ticket prices when the product does not warrant it. You can't. That's why McNair kept ticket prices at one level for several years, and then raised them the year after we went 9-7.
Wrong on all counts. The owners get the significant money from the TV contracts. The fans and parking is insignificant window dressing.
Bob McNair could CARE LESS what the fans think. WHY? Because they are just not all that important. Quit believing that tired myth that the fans are important because "they pay the players' salaries". THEY DON'T. They are nothing but loose pocket change at best.
YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT.
Wrong on all counts. The owners get the significant money from the TV contracts. The fans and parking is insignificant window dressing.
Bob McNair could CARE LESS what the fans think. WHY? Because they are just not all that important. Quit believing that tired myth that the fans are important because "they pay the players' salaries". THEY DON'T. They are nothing but loose pocket change at best.
YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT.
Wrong on all counts. The owners get the significant money from the TV contracts. The fans and parking is insignificant window dressing.
Bob McNair could CARE LESS what the fans think. WHY? Because they are just not all that important. Quit believing that tired myth that the fans are important because "they pay the players' salaries". THEY DON'T. They are nothing but loose pocket change at best.
YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT.
Bob McNair could CARE LESS what the fans think.
Wrong on all counts. The owners get the significant money from the TV contracts. The fans and parking is insignificant window dressing.
Bob McNair could CARE LESS what the fans think. WHY? Because they are just not all that important. Quit believing that tired myth that the fans are important because "they pay the players' salaries". THEY DON'T. They are nothing but loose pocket change at best.
YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT.
So, season ticket holders aren't important? Nope. Ain't buying it.
Most season ticket holders have accepted the PSL - which were usually paid years ago - as a sunk cost. True, no one wants to give that sunk cost up, but a lot of ticket holders will weigh giving up that sunk cost against constantly rising costs of tickets for a meidocre team.
Also, owners get quite a bit of revenue from parking (which, at Reliant, has almost doubled over the last several years) and concessions.
You cannot raise ticket prices when the product does not warrant it. You can't. That's why McNair kept ticket prices at one level for several years, and then raised them the year after we went 9-7.
Wrong on all counts. The owners get the significant money from the TV contracts. The fans and parking is insignificant window dressing.
Bob McNair could CARE LESS what the fans think. WHY? Because they are just not all that important. Quit believing that tired myth that the fans are important because "they pay the players' salaries". THEY DON'T. They are nothing but loose pocket change at best.
YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT.
Bob McNair: Texans playing hard
"How could anybody get a team playing harder than this team is playing?" McNair said. "I don't know how anybody can criticize him. You tell me. How are you going to get them to play harder than that when you've got two of your best players out, your starting quarterback is out. You're still out there playing right down to the wire. What more can you ask of your coaches?"
"I think the team performed very well today," McNair said. "I don't know how you're going to do better."
Dated Sunday, 20 October 2013
For anyone delusional enough to think McNair hears you:
Now some might say that this is just owner speak. But that some has not been paying attention to Bob McNair for the past 11 years. He says stuff like this because he believes stuff like this.
So get out your placards and get ready to march on Kirby. It won't make a difference, of course, but you can at least have the satisfaction that you did...."something".
Yup, which is why I've been saying we're stuck like chuck for at least another year. Status quo, man, status quo
Quite depressing, to say the least
At least McNair is a nice lovable dumbass, not like the evil dumbass we used to have.
After Kubiak's comments about still evaluating his quarterbacks and that Matt is the starter but was injured, I am now for the FIRST time in the history of my time on Texans Talk am donning the pink (in this case blue) fire Kubiak soap.
Screw the idiot. He has absolutely no clue how to manage a football team.
Exactly. We have to know our limits and not expect things that are unrealistic.
McNair, to his credit, probably thinks he has the eternal goodwill of the city for bringing pro football back to Houston.
And if he ever listened to fans, it would have been at the beginning and understood that he just had to be the anti-Bud.
Seen through that prism, it all makes sense.
And if he did listen to fans, I still think we would all be moaning about how far back the VY pick left this franchise.
Infinite patience, man. That is what is required to be a Texans fan. Otherwise, a fan could drive himself crazy every season.
yep! If you put yourself in the patent-pending "Bob McNair Reality Bubble", you quickly realize that Kubiak is a long-term project.
McNair has stated that he admires Tom Landry, who did not have a winning season for five years. McNair admires the Steelers, who stay loyal to coaches (not necessarily realizing that the loyalty was born from championships, but whatever).
McNair sees a good time at his games. Nevermind the fact that it's all scripted, it is still a party! And look at that parking lot! So many people gettin' down and tailgating. This is more than just a game. It's an EVENT!! And fun for the whole family!
He's not Bud Adams, which is obviously a good thing. But, not to defend the recently departed, we never questioned Bud's desire to win a championship. His methods were maddening, but his desire was in the right place.
And while I have no doubt that McNair wants to win a championship, what is evident is that the fans are starting to question his methods, as well.
But, like Bud, McNair will not cave to fan desires.
I could deal with all the secrets if we were winning championships, but they act like telling something as simple as who is starting the next game is going to equal an automatic loss.