This is an 8-8 or worse Texan team

[BullNation4Life]

Whats maddening is people basing an argument using a 3rd and 15 example

oook you want a 2nd and 6, Foster left for a yard and a half, or how about a 3 and 8 and a throw for 6 yards in route. shall I keep going?

You don't see Harbaugh drawing up a middle draw on a 3rd and 15 do you, hell you don't see ANY other coach in this league drawing up a middle draw play on 3rd 15, 3rd and 10 so on and so forth. No they take shots down the field, they don't give up and try and play "field position" even though they are down 17 points....

what is maddening is fans STILL do not get what Kubiak is all about...

 

[utahmark]

I am slowly starting to turn into a Colts fan...

I really like what they are doing up there and really tired of the same ol thing here...

When the defense knows EXACTLY what you are going to run on certain downs, Suggs knowing that Kubiak was going to run a draw play on 3rd and 15 down, it is beyond maddening....

Bandwagon! Go get on it.

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?

 

[Tailgate]

oook you want a 2nd and 6, Foster left, or how about a 3 and 8 and a throw for 6 yards. shall I keep going?

You don't see Harbaugh drawing up a middle draw on a 3rd and 15 do you, hell you don't see ANY other coach in this league drawing up a middle draw play on 3rd 15, 3rd and 10 so on and so forth. No they take shots down the field, they don't give up and try and play "field position" even though they are down 17 points....

what is maddening is fans STILL do not get what Kubiak is all about...

Dude. When our offensive line is blocking (we have seen it in 2011), this offense is damn near unstoppable, and thats WITH Schaub. Imagine with an Oline AND a talented QB.

 

[cstyle42]

Bandwagon! Go get on it.

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?

San Fransico was in the super bowl last year we weren't and have never been there. We definitely have more to B about.

 

[Texian]

The Texans could easily be 0-3 right now.

All those who didn't think the Texans made a mistake and Ozzie Newsome did make might want to rethink that.

All those who thought the Ravens Defense would be worse than last year because Lewis and Reed were gone might want to rethink that. In fact there is a lesson to be learned by Mr. Newsome, how to build your team and plan for the years ahead and not mortgage the future. 2013 is a classic case study. A lesson Ozzie himself learned in 2000.

All those that thought Colts wasted over $30 million on free agents that they signed in the off season might want to rethink that. Colts looked liked a very very good football team beating the 49ers handily today. The Colts & Andrew Luck's return to the top of the AFC South looks like it could be much sooner than many thought.

 

[utahmark]

San Fransico was in the super bowl last year we weren't and have never been there. We definitely have more to B about.

I couldn't care less what they did last year. Over on their board you have guys mad at their qb, coach and most of the guys in between. sound familiar?

 

[BullNation4Life]

Dude. When our offensive line is blocking (we have seen it in 2011), this offense is damn near unstoppable, and thats WITH Schaub. Imagine with an Oline AND a talented QB.

Sure, and imagine a head coach with the stones to actually go out and get that talented QB and one that doesn't mix and match his Oline every other week...

Imagine all the people...cheering for the Te..ex..aanns...

You can say I am a dreamer, but I defiantly am not the only one...

I hope someday you'll join us...

And the fans will scream as one...

when Kubiak makes more stupid calls....

 

[Texian]

Bandwagon! Go get on it.

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?

Seattle has one of the best D in the league. The Colts D did a better job beating the 49ers and that was in SF.

 

[Tailgate]

Sure, and imagine a head coach with the stones to actually go out and get that talented QB and one that doesn't mix and match his Oline every other week...

Imagine all the people...cheering for the Te..ex..aanns...

You can say I am a dreamer, but I defiantly am not the only one...

I hope someday you'll join us...

And the fans will scream as one...

when Kubiak makes more stupid calls....

A dreamer or a bandwagon?

 

[utahmark]

Seattle has one of the best D in the league. The Colts D did a better job beating the 49ers and that was in SF.

And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.

 

[Lucky]

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?

I think they have to be very concerned with their offense. Don't you?

Other teams besides the Texans are having issues. Does that mean the Texans and their fans shouldn't be concerned about what is happening here? I don't know where you're going with this.

 

[Mr teX]

wow you really have a knack for deflecting blame. first youre wrong, the score went as follows.
7-0/7-7/10-7/14-10/16-10/17-16 the defense gave up a td and we were down by a whopping deficit of 17-16.. smh.. 1point. is this the insurmountable deficit that the defense forced upon the offense that they "managed to get back?"

there was a stretch were the defense forced 4 straight 3 & outs, then on the 5th possession they recorded a safety, this was the 16-10 lead before they gave up a TD. (sorry ass defense right) how dare they give up a td after 5 straight possessions without even giving up a first down.. so down by 1 point, titans lead was built by a certain qb tossing a pick 6...

how can anyone objective place blame on the defense. you talk about total yards not telling the whole story when you dont even remember the whole story.. yea the defense was terrible for the first half of the chargers game. so that excuses the offense putting up 7 points?? even then the offense came back, lets not forget one td was aided by a bs call on a FG and that terrible defense helped in the comeback by pitching a shutout the rest of the way and scoring a TD to tie the game. if the offense gets a pass for only playing half the game why doesnt the defense get the same pass..

as for today, cmon now, 9 points, and you put the blame on a defense that gave up 13 points??

How can you claim to be objective and completely ignore the problems the defense has had in stopping people when they need to? KJ by himself has already subsidized at least 2 critical scoring drives in 2 different games with penalties and bad coverage.....yet i dont here you railing on him about that like you've been railing on schaub about his pick 6's.

And I can refer to "stretches" too where the offense played well in the 1st 2 games too....The fact that you have to refer to " stretches" says it all about the defense.

Furthermore, It doezn't matter how it happened or how many points they put the team behind... they gave it up and they needed the offense to go get it back...and the offense did it the 1st 2 games...they failed this week.

I'm not " deflecting" anything...there's plenty of the blame to go around.

 

[Tailgate]

I think they have to be very concerned with their offense. Don't you?

Other teams besides the Texans are having issues. Does that mean the Texans and their fans shouldn't be concerned about what is happening here? I don't know where you're going with this.

I think what he meant that this is the NFL, and seasons are not made or broken in week 3.

 

[Texian]

And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.

The Colts go to the Home of the NFC Champion and Super Bowl team and WIN handily. The Texans go to Home of AFC Champion and Super Bowl team and LOSE handily...and it's to early....hhhmmmm...if you say so.

 

[Craig.]

The Colts go to the Home of the NFC Champion and Super Bowl team and WIN handily. The Texans go to Home of AFC Champion and Super Bowl team and LOSE handily...and it's to early....hhhmmmm...if you say so.

Baltimore came to Reliant and got beat 43-13 last year. Baltimore got right and you know the rest.

Yeah. It's too early.

 

[Lucky]

And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.

The Ravens are not the same team that won the Super Bowl. We're not just talking about one game, either.

The Texans can turn this around by stop giving gift TDs to the opposition and putting the ball into the end zone. If that doesn't happen, well doom and gloom are how it will be around here.

 

[Lucky]

I'm not " deflecting" anything...

That's all you've done in any thread you were in today. At least you've been consistent.

 

[Tailgate]

The Ravens are not the same team that won the Super Bowl. We're not just talking about one game, either.

The Texans can turn this around by stop giving gift TDs to the opposition and putting the ball into the end zone. If that doesn't happen, well doom and gloom are how it will be around here.

Ravens D is going to be even better this year. Was saying this all week.

And you are right, facing this front 7 w Brown out... We could ill afford to give away two tds. Playing from behind w this current Oline against that front 7 was exactly what the Ravens wanted.

 

[Mr teX]

That's all you've done in any thread you were in today. At least you've been consistent.

Because i pay attention to the entire game and not just those things that reaffirm my agenda? Ok.

But you and anyone who thinks this teams issues magically go away by getting a another qb are in for a rude awakening. There are major issues on this team in addition to the qb. Good qb's have lit this defense up like a christmas tree. Thus far, i havent seen anything that tells me thats gonna be different this year.

 

[deucetx]

And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.

I don't believe we'll fall to 8-8 but I do think there is a chance we may not win this division and instead will have to fight for the wild card. Or said simply the division crown may not be a certain matter like the previous two years.

But in any case, I still understand the point others are making. Why shouldn't they be concerned? You point out the 49ers board but what does that have to do with what is happening with this time. They have seen their time rise higher before. They have seem basically the same personnel go to another level. What have we seen?

We can try to ignore last year but the problem with this team toward the end of the year last season is still plaguing them coming into this season. They can not play a complete game for whatever reason. That is something to be concerned about. The inconsistency in the redzone has been an issue for how long exactly? How about the issue of slow starts? So yes, folks have reason to be concerned because they are seeing the same issues they saw previously that held this team back.

On top of this what improvement are we seeing in one of our biggest issues last year in that offensive line? Newton has not shown any progress and Wade Smith is....Wade Smith. Maybe he's playing hurt but in the end that matters little since he's on the field and is expected to produce. Three straight games this line was beaten one way or another.

So again...yeah. They have reason to be concerned. And outside this board not all folks are screaming praise or that we're 2-1. They noticed the previous two games weren't pretty either. As posted in a sports group I'm in:

Are the Texans frauds or what? That showing has to be the most pathetic of all today.

Granted he retracted that statement when considering the Giants got completely dominated.

 

[thunderkyss]

oook you want a 2nd and 6, Foster left for a yard and a half, or how about a 3 and 8 and a throw for 6 yards in route. shall I keep going?

You don't see Harbaugh drawing up a middle draw on a 3rd and 15 do you, hell you don't see ANY other coach in this league drawing up a middle draw play on 3rd 15, 3rd and 10 so on and so forth. No they take shots down the field, they don't give up and try and play "field position" even though they are down 17 points....

what is maddening is fans STILL do not get what Kubiak is all about...

Did you watch the 49ers today?

 

[utahmark]

I think they have to be very concerned with their offense. Don't you?

Other teams besides the Texans are having issues. Does that mean the Texans and their fans shouldn't be concerned about what is happening here? I don't know where you're going with this.

I just think it's a little early to start talking about getting rid of our coach, kicker and qb. Really good teams can have problems early in the season is where I was going with that. I think Baltimore lost this game last year and it didn't turn out to bad for them. And yes, they looked at least as bad(in their loss to us last year) as we did today.

 

[HTown2ATX]

Texans won't go 8-8. Schedule softens up and I don't THINK they're bad enough to totally diarrhea the season up like that. However, if they do or fall below that, it is time for changes.

Marciano needs to be fired last year.

Texans need an OC, no more Denny's menu.

Texans need actual QB competition with either Yates and Keenum or bring in someone. And that is coming from someone who defended Schaub for years....but I defended HWNSNBM up until the end too so I'm close to done with Schaub. His INT's are more than expected every game nowadays.

This team could so easily be 0-3 and have earned the poof lion.

What makes it even more superfantastical is that the sunshine pumpers will try to make the realists who see the flaws in this team out to be villians somehow or somehow they "don't know football" as they explain away picks due to some quasi BS caused by the receiver not seeing the ball due to the winter solstice or some $hit.

Wonka says: Oh so YOU'RE a "Super Fan"? Tell me again how being a sunshine pumper makes you a superior fan.

 

[DX-TEX]

Im interested to see how they rebound. A nice trouncing of the Seahawks would go a long way. Their fans are getting rather chippy

 

[thunderkyss]

Dude. When our offensive line is blocking (we have seen it in 2011), this offense is damn near unstoppable, and thats WITH Schaub. Imagine with an Oline AND a talented QB.

To be fair, Schaub looks great when we're in a hurry up offense. He looks great when we're throwing the ball a lot. He looks great when we're throwing the ball down field.

& I'm talking about this year.

But we worry about Matt taking too many hits. If he's going to be dropping back & throwing a lot, he's going to get smacked around with the way our line's been playing.

Then Arian gets better with touches, so we've "got" to feed him the ball.

So Kubiak needs to find a way to get Matt in a rhythm & throwing the ball early.... at the same time, we need to get Arian some touches. You'd think that shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

 

[Texian]

I just think it's a little early to start talking about getting rid of our coach,

Uh-Oh I have been doing that going on 3 years already. I wanted McNair to hire Jim Harbaugh Jan 2011. Today I want McNair to hire Oliver Luck as GM and David Shaw as Head Coach.

 

[DX-TEX]

Uh-Oh I have been doing that going on 3 years already. I wanted McNair to hire Jim Harbaugh Jan 2011. Today I want McNair to hire Oliver Luck as GM and David Shaw as Head Coach.

Im ok with that as long as Andrew comes along with him in a couple years.

 

[thunderkyss]

I don't believe we'll fall to 8-8 but I do think there is a chance we may not win this division and instead will have to fight for the wild card. Or said simply the division crown may not be a certain matter like the previous two years.

That would be great. We'd be like the last 3 Super Bowl winners.

 

[Lucky]

Really good teams can have problems early in the season is where I was going with that. I think Baltimore lost this game last year and it didn't turn out to bad for them. And yes, they looked at least as bad(in their loss to us last year) as we did today.

That's true. But the Ravens didn't just sit back and hope things got better. They identified their problem and made a pretty drastic move in changing OCs in season. I think what you've been saying is that everything's peachy and this will turnaround on its own. To fix a problem, first someone has to admit there's a problem. I'm wondering if the Texans will get that far. What I fear is the Texans following your line of thinking.

 

[utahmark]

Uh-Oh I have been doing that going on 3 years already. I wanted McNair to hire Jim Harbaugh Jan 2011. Today I want McNair to hire Oliver Luck as GM and David Shaw as Head Coach.

I would of loved Harbaugh in 2011. We were not getting him so who was your second choice. I don't think Kubiak is the best coach in the league and I think his system is getting kinda dated. But I do think he is above average and I think if we get rid of him odds are not great that we would get someone better. I don't want a change just to change. We are a winning and I sure don't want to go back to losing. We keep getting into the playoff's we just might win the big one.

I'll stick with our GM. I think he is one of the top guys in the league.

 

[utahmark]

That's true. But the Ravens didn't just sit back and hope things got better. They identified their problem and made a pretty drastic move in changing OCs in season. I think what you've been saying is that everything's peachy and this will turnaround on its own. To fix a problem, first someone has to admit there's a problem. I'm wondering if the Texans will get that far. What I fear is the Texans following your line of thinking.

I'm not sure you know what my line of thinking is.lol Good post otherwise.

What change would you make?

 

[TexansSeminole]

I don't think there is anything wrong with Kubiak's offensive system. It's effective. His problem right now is his predictability in play calling in certain circumstances and his decision to marry himself to Matt Schaub. He can fix those things and run this same system. The question is: will he actually do that?

 

[thunderkyss]

Funny thing is if we would have won, this would not have counted as a quality win, since the Ravens haven't "looked" that great so far. But since we lost, this is "exactly" the kind of game Schaub & Kubiak chokes up for.

Can't just be another loss...... no one expects us to go undefeated, but damn them all to hell if they lose one game.

 

[TexansSeminole]

I'm not sure you know what my line of thinking is.lol Good post otherwise.

What change would you make?

I know you are talking to Lucky, but I will take a crack at that.

First thing I do is bench Matt Schaub. We know what he is capable of and it is just not enough with this current roster. I put in either Yates or Keenum and see what kind of NFL gamers they are. Second, I go to rock Smith's office and I start talking about acquiring a RT via trade. That's probably a long shot, but I would want to atleast have that conversation. Third, I try to figure out what schematic changes can be made to the defense that will help us better stop elite passing teams, as the problem appear to be more scheme-related than player-based.

Changing the QB is essential. I can't imagine the players have a lot of confidence in Schaub and a change of leadership alone may provide a much needed spark. Additionally, Schaub's play is just not good enough and it's progressively getting worse.

 

[Lucky]

What change would you make?

The biggest problem I see now is that defenses view Schaub as a sitting duck. So, the first change I would make is going with a more traditional WCO. Short passes on early downs with the backs in pass routes further downfield. That would ease the blitzes that Schaub now has trouble with. It would also allow Foster and Tate to get into the open field more.

If that doesn't work, and Schaub still can't avoid mistakes, I put in Yates. Yates has had problems with mistakes in the past, clearly. But, he can at least move in the pocket and avoid the rush. That's killing this team. A more mobile QB would put the PA bootleg back in the game plan.

 

[TexansSeminole]

Funny thing is if we would have won, this would not have counted as a quality win, since the Ravens haven't "looked" that great so far. But since we lost, this is "exactly" the kind of game Schaub & Kubiak chokes up for.

Can't just be another loss...... no one expects us to go undefeated, but damn them all to hell if they lose one game.

It's not just the one game. We were outplayed in the SD game, heavily in the first half. Rivers made a very poor throw over the middle of the field that completely changed that game. If not for that, we'd have lost. You can't count on the other team to screw up. We also looked bad against Tennessee.

This really isn't about one game, look at how we played at the end of the year last year. Schaub was terrible and our defense got annihilated by the patriots passing attack. These problems are continuing into this season.

 

[utahmark]

I know you are talking to Lucky, but I will take a crack at that.

First thing I do is bench Matt Schaub. We know what he is capable of and it is just not enough with this current roster. I put in either Yates or Keenum and see what kind of NFL gamers they are. Second, I go to rock Smith's office and I start talking about acquiring a RT via trade. That's probably a long shot, but I would want to atleast have that conversation. Third, I try to figure out what schematic changes can be made to the defense that will help us better stop elite passing teams, as the problem appear to be more scheme-related than player-based.

Changing the QB is essential. I can't imagine the players have a lot of confidence in Schaub and a change of leadership alone may provide a much needed spark. Additionally, Schaub's play is just not good enough and it's progressively getting worse.

I think the defense is running more zone this year(just from listening to the announcers). As for Schaub I still think he is the best guy we have on the roster. I don't think our future qb is on the team. Hopefully I'm wrong about that. Trades don't seem to happen much in the NFL but I'm all for trying our o-line is playing pretty bad.

Right now I wouldn't do much of anything. I'm not going to blow up the team after 1 loss. Ask me in a couple of weeks and I might change my tune. I wouldn't wait till we are 2 and 6 to do something.

 

[Texian]

I would of loved Harbaugh in 2011. We were not getting him so who was your second choice. I don't think Kubiak is the best coach in the league and I think his system is getting kinda dated. But I do think he is above average and I think if we get rid of him odds are not great that we would get someone better. I don't want a change just to change. We are a winning and I sure don't want to go back to losing. We keep getting into the playoff's we just might win the big one.

I'll stick with our GM. I think he is one of the top guys in the league.

I didn't have a 2nd choice, I don't believe in changing coaches for sake of change, only if there is a better alternative, Harbaugh was and so is David Shaw. Kubiak's decision to hire Frank Bush w/o interviewing one of several successful DC available told me Kubiak commitment to friends exceeded his commitment to excellence. IMHO Kubiak coaches soft. Some of Kubiak's success has come at the expense of Peyton Manning's broken neck and Jeff Fisher's departure from Tenn. Today those teams are much much better, and getting better every year. They have lots of money and no real salary cap problems.

Rick Smith is a GM in the mold of Scott Pioli. When Scott was in New England not Kansas City. Like the way Pioli was Belichick right hand man Rick Smith is Kubiak's right hand man. Kubiak has full control and final say on the 53 man roster, it's in his contract.

 

[Txn_in_FL]

I just think it's a little early to start talking about getting rid of our coach, kicker and qb. Really good teams can have problems early in the season is where I was going with that. I think Baltimore lost this game last year and it didn't turn out to bad for them. And yes, they looked at least as bad(in their loss to us last year) as we did today.

I know we can go back to how Baltimore looked at this time last year. We can also look at Giants teams in the past that come around in December and blow everyone's doors off. The complaint with this team is, and always has been the coach and to a lesser degree the QB. They don't seem to have that special something that is going to set the league on fire.

I'm too lazy to link to it, but in the Chron they had a quote from Kubiak that said "We battled back and got a field goal". That's it? A field goal? This team is killing me and I hate to see a great player like AJ get dragged down with it.

It's on me... that's all we ever seem to hear. I look at the Division and after only a couple years the Titans look reloaded and ready to go. The Colts had one down year and are already all over it again.

I hate to be a downer three weeks into the season but damn... These next few weeks are going to be super brutal.

 

[utahmark]

The biggest problem I see now is that defenses view Schaub as a sitting duck. So, the first change I would make is going with a more traditional WCO. Short passes on early downs with the backs in pass routes further downfield. That would ease the blitzes that Schaub now has trouble with. It would also allow Foster and Tate to get into the open field more.

If that doesn't work, and Schaub still can't avoid mistakes, I put in Yates. Yates has had problems with mistakes in the past, clearly. But, he can at least move in the pocket and avoid the rush. That's killing this team. A more mobile QB would put the PA bootleg back in the game plan.

That seems reasonable. I would be fine with all of that.

 

[utahmark]

I didn't have a 2nd choice, I don't believe in changing coaches for sake of change, only if there is a better alternative, Harbaugh was and so is David Shaw. Kubiak's decision to hire Frank Bush w/o interviewing one of several successful DC available told me Kubiak commitment to friends exceeded his commitment to excellence. IMHO Kubiak coaches soft. Some of Kubiak's success has come at the expense of Peyton Manning's broken neck and Jeff Fisher's departure from Tenn. Today those teams are much much better, and getting better every year. They have lots of money and no real salary cap problems.

Rick Smith is a GM in the mold of Scott Pioli. When Scott was in New England not Kansas City. Like the way Pioli was Belichick right hand man Rick Smith is Kubiak's right hand man. Kubiak has full control and final say on the 53 man roster, it's in his contract.

Your not always going to get your first choice and you have to fire your guy before you find out who you get. I liked Harbaugh too. So did everyone and he got to basically choose where he wanted to coach. You got to have a second choice or maybe you would of stuck with Kubiak as well?

 

[thunderkyss]

I know you are talking to Lucky, but I will take a crack at that.



Changing the QB is essential. I can't imagine the players have a lot of confidence in Schaub and a change of leadership alone may provide a much needed spark. Additionally, Schaub's play is just not good enough and it's progressively getting worse.

Would you then be ok with going 8-8 & changing QBs every week? Surely either Yates or Keenum will do better than that but worse case scenario...

I'm stubborn & I think this is a Championship team with Schaub. Not so much with the other two. I think McNair & Kubiak think the same way so I'm sure we won't see that change. But if I was positive Schaub could not win the Super Bowl I'd make that change now.

I'd also be ok with the possibility of going 8-8, then I'd know we don't have our QB on our roster today.

 

[thunderkyss]

It's not just the one game. We were outplayed in the SD game, heavily in the first half. Rivers made a very poor throw over the middle of the field that completely changed that game. If not for that, we'd have lost. You can't count on the other team to screw up. We also looked bad against Tennessee.

We just paid that guy a crap load of money. I prefer to call that an amazing play by an amazing player.

This really isn't about one game, look at how we played at the end of the year last year. Schaub was terrible and our defense got annihilated by the patriots passing attack. These problems are continuing into this season.

Schaub has not played terribly... Well, not that terribly this year. This is not a continuation of last year.

I'm not saying we don't have problems. I'm saying we've got time to work it out & I believe we have the people in place to get it fixed. Although I do like that idea about trading for a RT.

 

[Shaft75]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNe7x13q2MU

 

[Texian]

Your not always going to get your first choice and you have to fire your guy before you find out who you get. I liked Harbaugh too. So did everyone and he got to basically choose where he wanted to coach. You got to have a second choice or maybe you would of stuck with Kubiak as well?

Not everyone liked Harbaugh. In fact there were more who did not care for him. Many thought he was just another college coach w/ limited experience who would turnout like Petrino or Saban when he was with Miami. I received a lot of negative feedback each time I brought up Harbaugh's name.

There are back channels, an owner can negotiate with a coach's agent without any public awareness and then go through the formalities once a deal is done. If you get your guy GREAT, if not, no harm no foul.

 

[steelbtexan]

The biggest problem I see now is that defenses view Schaub as a sitting duck. So, the first change I would make is going with a more traditional WCO. Short passes on early downs with the backs in pass routes further downfield. That would ease the blitzes that Schaub now has trouble with. It would also allow Foster and Tate to get into the open field more.

If that doesn't work, and Schaub still can't avoid mistakes, I put in Yates. Yates has had problems with mistakes in the past, clearly. But, he can at least move in the pocket and avoid the rush. That's killing this team. A more mobile QB would put the PA bootleg back in the game plan.

With Schaub's foot problems, I fear this is as good as it's going to get.

 

[steelbtexan]

Would you then be ok with going 8-8 & changing QBs every week? Surely either Yates or Keenum will do better than that but worse case scenario...

I'm stubborn & I think this is a Championship team with Schaub. Not so much with the other two. I think McNair & Kubiak think the same way so I'm sure we won't see that change. But if I was positive Schaub could not win the Super Bowl I'd make that change now.

I'd also be ok with the possibility of going 8-8, then I'd know we don't have our QB on our roster today.

I dont think you can win a SB with Gary/Schaub and every game yr spent on them is another wasted. But I've felt this way about Gary since 2009 and Schaub since his foot injury.

So yes, I'm for giving T.J. and Case a look this season and see if they can be the answer. If not then drafting a QB becomes priority #1. This will never happen due to the brilliant contract extention Rick with Gary's blessings gave Schaub.

 

[Premier]

How can you claim to be objective and completely ignore the problems the defense has had in stopping people when they need to? KJ by himself has already subsidized at least 2 critical scoring drives in 2 different games with penalties and bad coverage.....yet i dont here you railing on him about that like you've been railing on schaub about his pick 6's.

And I can refer to "stretches" too where the offense played well in the 1st 2 games too....The fact that you have to refer to " stretches" says it all about the defense.

Furthermore, It doezn't matter how it happened or how many points they put the team behind... they gave it up and they needed the offense to go get it back...and the offense did it the 1st 2 games...they failed this week.

I'm not " deflecting" anything...there's plenty of the blame to go around.

im not ignoring any problems of the defense just calling your bs where you seem to be passing all the blame to the defense and seem to be rewriting history to make it seem like the defense gave up some insurmountable lead to tennessee and schaub willed us back to victory, when it was actually schaub who gave the titans the big lead.. now today youre focusing on kareem on some ticky tack bs that even the announcers were questioning. a couple of deep plays and PI calls and its on the defense?? defense gave up 13 points.. how is this on the defense at all when your qb stalls twice from 1st & goal and throws a pick6.. i swear its never schaubs fault..

 

[BullNation4Life]

Did you watch the 49ers today?

Saw the Colts put a beat down on them...

I was referring to John Harbaugh, the Super Bowl winning coach, not that blow hard in SF who cant decide if he wants his QB to run or throw...

 

[TexansSeminole]

Would you then be ok with going 8-8 & changing QBs every week?

I'd be ok with us seeing what Yates or Keenum have to offer and going 8-8. If we don't make the playoffs, I don't care what our record is. Schaub is simply not going to take us anywhere.