Just a possible observation..

[Perki-Perk]

Has anyone else noticed the body language of most of the players, with the exception of JJ Watt and K Jax, and maybe a couple of others?

To me, and it may just be me, it seems they have given up on their coaches.

I have to imagine, as it's frustrating for fans, they players have to be tired of the 3rd and long draws and screens, the not going for it on fourth when trailing, and the overall bad playcalling.

As a business manager, I would think Mr. McNair would have to look at that as well as the bigger picture and not just the record.

Will one and done this year be acceptable to Mr. McNair?

Will he still think we are on the right track?

I have tried to stick with Kubiak and Shaub...but they just don't seem to be the ones that can get us over the hump.

For the last 10 years, I didn't expect much as a fan, but I still had a great time rooting and enjoyed our wins. For the last 3, it has just been heartbreaking. We have the talent, I know this for certain, but we are missing some key ingredients to be a contender. Heart, intensity, and even courage seem to be lacking on 70% of the team.

I know these players used to play their hearts out for Kubes...but it just doesn't look or feel that way anymore.

I hope Bob McNair makes the right decision if we get bounced from the first round this year and realized he needs to capitalize on his current stock of assets and find better management.

Thoughts?

 

[amazing80]

Honestly when I watch I see the offensive players disgusted with the play calling and the qb play...the expressions by Aj and Foster are clear as day to me

 

[Perki-Perk]

Honestly when I watch I see the offensive players disgusted with the play calling and the qb play...the expressions by Aj and Foster are clear as day to me

See, I notice that too. It's like they are in the huddle and Shaub calls the play and they trot out all depressed, like, "Really?"

You also notice, that when something big is drawn up, they come out more excited. You can see it in their body language.

I also think the defense has gotten to the point to where they are trying to force that fumble or make the big play everytime because of our offensive ineptitude, which is why they've looked subpar.

There is something mentally wrong with this team right now and it starts at the top.

I think they "Kubiak ass chwing" was a farce, and never really happened." He's so, "Aw Shucks" and it sickens me when it comes to coaching. I'd love to keep Kubiak and Wade as coordinators, but it'd be demoralizing to for Kubes to get demoted, but may be a wake up call. If I was McNair, I would have Have swapped Wade and Kubiak's responsibilities after the New England blow out.

We have gotten this way as a society though, where we except mediocrity and how dare you call out failure or you are not a fan at all. It's sad, but that's where we're headed as a country, and as a people.

 

[texanhead08]

When is the last time the defense forced a turnover other than the one we had taken away yesterday.

 

[thunderkyss]

 

[mike moffat]

Everything here is true. Kube needs a phone call today. Don't wait to lose next Saturday.

 

[texanhead08]

Demps got benched for giving up a big play in the last Colts game, and he did the same **** yesterday.

 

[thunderkyss]

Demps got benched for giving up a big play in the last Colts game, and he did the same **** yesterday.

He's got to be getting a kick-back. If he ends up on the Colts next year (ala Jacoby Jones), I swear I'm going to blow a gasket.

 

[srrono]

1 thing I have noticed as far as our DEF drop off is guys are not running to the ball. I see a lot of guys standing watching others make plays. At the start of the season it seemed like everyone was running to the ball. Group tackling all the time, now 1 guy misses a tackle its a long gain with guys just watching.

 

[Say Watt]

Honestly when I watch I see the offensive players disgusted with the play calling and the qb play...the expressions by Aj and Foster are clear as day to me

Agree completely. Rep to you and the OP as well.

I was telling my friends the same thing yesterday. They just look totally deflated like they know what Kubiak is doing isn't going to work. I don't remember when it was, or even what quarter, but I remember there being a running play on 1st or 2nd down and the defense had stacked the box. Everyone and their mother KNEW the Texans were running the football. There was no question about it. And just the way the offense ran, it looked like they were in slow motion just running through the motions knowing the play would fail. Schaub couldn't audible out of it (because apparently he isn't allowed to) and sure enough Arian was stopped for a loss. It was pathetic.

So yeah, I agree. This team has quit IMO, but our team is full of choir boys who won't stand up and say anything.

 

[Say Watt]

1 thing I have noticed as far as our DEF drop off is guys are not running to the ball. I see a lot of guys standing watching others make plays. At the start of the season it seemed like everyone was running to the ball. Group tackling all the time, now 1 guy misses a tackle its a long gain with guys just watching.

I might be doing the same thing if I was risking life and limb for a coach that doesn't even have enough faith in his team to watch a ****ing field goal.

 

[DX-TEX]

Agree completely. Rep to you and the OP as well.

I was telling my friends the same thing yesterday. They just look totally deflated like they know what Kubiak is doing isn't going to work. I don't remember when it was, or even what quarter, but I remember there being a running play on 1st or 2nd down and the defense had stacked the box. Everyone and their mother KNEW the Texans were running the football. There was no question about it. And just the way the offense ran, it looked like they were in slow motion just running through the motions knowing the play would fail. Schaub couldn't audible out of it (because apparently he isn't allowed to) and sure enough Arian was stopped for a loss. It was pathetic.

So yeah, I agree. This team has quit IMO, but our team is full of choir boys who won't stand up and say anything.

Goes hand in hand with Lance Z latest:

http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootba...iak-cant-rely-on-the-system-he-has-to-fix-it/

When the Texans had a ground game and defense like they had last year, they could simply impose their will on the Bengals and even the Ravens in the playoffs. T.J. Yates wasn’t ready to win on the road in Baltimore, but the Texans did what they needed to on both sides of the ball thanks to the ground game and the defense. Those elements aren’t the same this year so the entire idea of “imposing your will” has to be shelved. It’s no longer about “the system,” coach. It’s about putting the pieces together and crafting a gameplan that causes concern on that other sideline.

 

[Hervoyel]

When is the last time the defense forced a turnover other than the one we had taken away yesterday.

Ok, when was the last time the offense got out in front of somebody and made the other teams offense start taking chances to get back in a game? Find an opportunistic defense and they're usually playing for a team that's playing from in front. As we stopped getting all over people from the opening kickoff we stopped getting as many turnovers. Conversely as we began falling behind in games suddenly we were the ones getting taken advantage of in this regard.

 

[Say Watt]

Goes hand in hand with Lance Z latest:

http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootba...iak-cant-rely-on-the-system-he-has-to-fix-it/

Rep to you. That is a fantastic read. Honestly, I think LZ would make a better head coach than Gary Kubiak.

 

[Wolf6151]

McNair needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Kubiak today. He needs to stick his foot up Kube's ass.

 

[markn]

This is a great thread with a very good post to start it off. LZ's blog entry linked above is also very illuminating. Kudos.

As a business manager, I would think Mr. McNair would have to look at that as well as the bigger picture and not just the record.

Will one and done this year be acceptable to Mr. McNair?

Will he still think we are on the right track?

I think the answers to those questions are partly addressed by the preceding statement. Bob is a business manager; and regardless of how we feel about the current regime he's got to be happy with the way the business is going: full stadium, waiting list for season tickets, merchandise through the roof and one of the most highly rated franchises by value in world sport. I know Mr McNair says all the right things in public about wanting a championship team, but I don't think he's going to risk everything else he's got by making radical changes to a successful business.

 

[Say Watt]

Ok, when was the last time the offense got out in front of somebody and made the other teams offense start taking chances to get back in a game? Find an opportunistic defense and they're usually playing for a team that's playing from in front. As we stopped getting all over people from the opening kickoff we stopped getting as many turnovers. Conversely as we began falling behind in games suddenly we were the ones getting taken advantage of in this regard.

Nailed it again, Herv. You are exactly correct. Too many people just look at stats instead of watching football games. Most turnovers are a result of offenses getting too risky. And how do you make offenses get risky? By putting the freaking ball in the freaking end zone!

We aren't getting turnovers because we simply aren't scoring the football. Teams are able to play conservative most of the game because they know eventually this team is going to give up a big play or two and our offense can't score to save their lives.

Simply pathetic.

 

[GuerillaBlack]

Agree completely. Rep to you and the OP as well.

I was telling my friends the same thing yesterday. They just look totally deflated like they know what Kubiak is doing isn't going to work. I don't remember when it was, or even what quarter, but I remember there being a running play on 1st or 2nd down and the defense had stacked the box. Everyone and their mother KNEW the Texans were running the football. There was no question about it. And just the way the offense ran, it looked like they were in slow motion just running through the motions knowing the play would fail. Schaub couldn't audible out of it (because apparently he isn't allowed to) and sure enough Arian was stopped for a loss. It was pathetic.

So yeah, I agree. This team has quit IMO, but our team is full of choir boys who won't stand up and say anything.

Yeah their expresions were pretty bad. Especially the one where AJ facepalmed and OD was also looking all confused. The body language has been terrible since the NE game. The last time I have seen this team all smiles was the Thanksgiving game. Everyone looks pissed off, on both offense and defense. Kubiak is a crappy playcaller. Its so easy to call out the plays when you watch them since they are so predictable. I don't know if Schaub isn't allowed to audible, or just isn't capable, too. It was pretty sad seeing a rookie audible out of plays and carve the defense up a bit.

 

[Perki-Perk]

Yeah their expresions were pretty bad. Especially the one where AJ facepalmed and OD was also looking all confused. The body language has been terrible since the NE game. The last time I have seen this team all smiles was the Thanksgiving game. Everyone looks pissed off, on both offense and defense. Kubiak is a crappy playcaller. Its so easy to call out the plays when you watch them since they are so predictable. I don't know if Schaub isn't allowed to audible, or just isn't capable, too. It was pretty sad seeing a rookie audible out of plays and carve the defense up a bit.

I think what really sold me on it was when AJ just let the ball sail through his arms. I had my feelings, had my beliefs but the fan in me kept overlooking them. When AJ non chalantly attempted to catch that sure fire TD, I just knew this team was done playing for Kubiak. Being a "contender" and then being blown out by the likes of Rodgers and Brady because of coaching ineptitude has to be disheartening.

I've also seen some terrible to almost biased officiating against the Texans since the Lions game. Some of it has been downright terrible. I'll have to watch again with out my battle red glasses on, but I don't think the league fancies the Texans much.

 

[Say Watt]

Yeah their expresions were pretty bad. Especially the one where AJ facepalmed and OD was also looking all confused. The body language has been terrible since the NE game. The last time I have seen this team all smiles was the Thanksgiving game. Everyone looks pissed off, on both offense and defense. Kubiak is a crappy playcaller. Its so easy to call out the plays when you watch them since they are so predictable. I don't know if Schaub isn't allowed to audible, or just isn't capable, too. It was pretty sad seeing a rookie audible out of plays and carve the defense up a bit.

Agreed. Rep to you as well.

I just don't understand what McNair isn't seeing. He obviously must really hate football, because there is no way he has been watching this team the last few years.

Go research my posts. You might also have to look under the name ckw, but I have been calling for Kubiak's head since 8-8 round 2. The guy simply does not have "it". He is too busy staring at his playbook hoping for that "eureka" moment that never comes. I got back on the bandwagon to be a good Texans fan midway through last season. I figured ok, all Kubiak needed was a good defensive coach. I'll give him a chance.

So surely now that we have a great defensive coach, surely the offense is going to keep playing well, putting up 25 per game, and we would be a legit Super Bowl contender. Wrong!!!

Same problems. Defense quit playing out of their mind and what does the offense do? Nothing.

This team has given up on Gary. Now it is time Bob does the same thing.

 

[Say Watt]

I think what really sold me on it was when AJ just let the ball sail through his arms. I had my feelings, had my beliefs but the fan in me kept overlooking them. When AJ non chalantly attempted to catch that sure fire TD, I just knew this team was done playing for Kubiak. Being a "contender" and then being blown out by the likes of Rodgers and Brady because of coaching ineptitude has to be disheartening.

I've also seen some terrible to almost biased officiating against the Texans since the Lions game. Some of it has been downright terrible. I'll have to watch again with out my battle red glasses on, but I don't think the league fancies the Texans much.

What makes me the maddest is the talent on this football team on BOTH SIDES of the ball. Arian, AJ, OD, Watt, JoJo, Kareem, Manning, Barwin (at least he looked talented last year and before the injury two years ago), Duane Brown, Myers, Antonio, etc.

What has happened? Well, the OP told us what happened, and I couldn't agree more.

 

[thunderkyss]

McNair needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Kubiak today. He needs to stick his foot up Kube's ass.

So I've been saying for years, that Kubiak is only part of a group think here. He doesn't make decisions, he influences the group. Probably wins out most of the time. But it's always "their" decision.

With that in mind; knowing Gary, McNair, Rick, & Cal (probably Wade as well, I don't know) get together every morning & talk about this team, what could Gary have possibly been telling him these last 9 weeks.

I think Bob is as savy as we are, he knows more about football than he had in the past. I'm sure he had questions about the Texans declining performance despite our wins.

Surely, Kubiak talked about some of the injury issues & pointed out that we're getting some of the young guys ready for the play-offs. Ben Jones, Derek Newton, Brandon Brooks.... defensively, I have to believe he fell on the sword there, like he should. This offense needs to start fast, score early & often for the defense to do what they were put together to do.

But over the last three weeks, surely Gary told Bob that we would win 2 of the three.

So McNair is going to ask him what happened & what is he going to do to fix it by Saturday.

What could Gary possibly tell him?

 

[Perki-Perk]

Agreed. Rep to you as well.

I just don't understand what McNair isn't seeing. He obviously must really hate football, because there is no way he has been watching this team the last few years.

Go research my posts. You might also have to look under the name ckw, but I have been calling for Kubiak's head since 8-8 round 2. The guy simply does not have "it". He is too busy staring at his playbook hoping for that "eureka" moment that never comes. I got back on the bandwagon to be a good Texans fan midway through last season. I figured ok, all Kubiak needed was a good defensive coach. I'll give him a chance.

So surely now that we have a great defensive coach, surely the offense is going to keep playing well, putting up 25 per game, and we would be a legit Super Bowl contender. Wrong!!!

Same problems. Defense quit playing out of their mind and what does the offense do? Nothing.

This team has given up on Gary. Now it is time Bob does the same thing.

Kubiak, Shaub, Marciano and Dennison must go. I don't even know what Dennison does. Is he just there because the team is supposed to have an OC?

TJ Yates is NOT the answer either. I'm glad many of you Yates fans are not talent evaluators. The kids got spunk, but the rest of his game is junk.

Keenum went undrafted for a reason, so don't even go there.

We need to look at QB in one of the first 2 rounds next year, get a new coach in here, keep Shaub another year (since I believe it was 2 years guaranteed anyway) and then go from there. If I was AJ, I'd be pissed. He is such a class act and loyal dude. One of my favorite Houston Sports stars next to Hakeem and Biggio of all time. Dre deserves better and dammit, Houston fans deserve better! If we don't get it together, Watt might walk at the end of his rookie contract. I'd hate to see that because that boy is growing on me too!

 

[Perki-Perk]

What makes me the maddest is the talent on this football team on BOTH SIDES of the ball. Arian, AJ, OD, Watt, JoJo, Kareem, Manning, Barwin (at least he looked talented last year and before the injury two years ago), Duane Brown, Myers, Antonio, etc.

What has happened? Well, the OP told us what happened, and I couldn't agree more.

I am the OP...I think...lol

 

[MEGA SWATT]

Sadly, winning in the postseason is not needed to have a profitable franchise. It's obvious that McNair is running this literally as a business. As long as the franchise is profitable, gaining value each year and is employing great, hard working individuals like Kubiak, Phillips, our GM Smith and all the players - why mess with success? What part of "12-4 is better than last year" do you not understand?? This is his mindset.

It's obvious McNair does NOT really care about winning because he is NOT willing to make the hard decisions to catapult the Texans into a feared, legit team that can beat teams like GB, NE and close out a team like the vikings or colts to get HFA.

 

[Say Watt]

Kubiak, Shaub, Marciano and Dennison must go. I don't even know what Dennison does. Is he just there because the team is supposed to have an OC?

TJ Yates is NOT the answer either. I'm glad many of you Yates fans are not talent evaluators. The kids got spunk, but the rest of his game is junk.

Keenum went undrafted for a reason, so don't even go there.

We need to look at QB in one of the first 2 rounds next year, get a new coach in here, keep Shaub another year (since I believe it was 2 years guaranteed anyway) and then go from there. If I was AJ, I'd be pissed. He is such a class act and loyal dude. One of my favorite Houston Sports stars next to Hakeem and Biggio of all time. Dre deserves better and dammit, Houston fans deserve better! If we don't get it together, Watt might walk at the end of his rookie contract. I'd hate to see that because that boy is growing on me too!

Were the Yates and Keenum comments direct at me? Because I have NEVER (at least I think never) made a comment in favor of either Yates or Keenum starting over Schaub. We'd be worse off with either of them IMO.

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post.

 

[Say Watt]

Sadly, winning in the postseason is not needed to have a profitable franchise. It's obvious that McNair is running this literally as a business. As long as the franchise is profitable, gaining value each year and is employing great, hard working individuals like Kubiak, Phillips, our GM Smith and all the players - why mess with sucess? What part of "12-4 is better than last year" do you not understand?? This is his mindset.

It's obvious McNair does NOT really care about winning because he is NOT willing to make the hard decisions to catapult the Texans into a feared, legit team that can beat teams like GB, NE and close out a team like the vikings or colts to get HFA.

I have felt like this for about 4 or 5 years now. I called him Dollar Bob for a while because of this. Due to recent success, I had relented on my criticism of McNair and Kubes but if we lose on Saturday, it will most certainly be making a comeback. I've had enough.

 

[Perki-Perk]

Were the Yates and Keenum comments direct at me? Because I have NEVER (at least I think never) made a comment in favor of either Yates or Keenum starting over Schaub. We'd be worse off with either of them IMO.

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post.

No, the Keenum and Yates statements were just in general. I replied to you simply for supporting data.

 

[Perki-Perk]

Sadly, winning in the postseason is not needed to have a profitable franchise. It's obvious that McNair is running this literally as a business. As long as the franchise is profitable, gaining value each year and is employing great, hard working individuals like Kubiak, Phillips, our GM Smith and all the players - why mess with success? What part of "12-4 is better than last year" do you not understand?? This is his mindset.

It's obvious McNair does NOT really care about winning because he is NOT willing to make the hard decisions to catapult the Texans into a feared, legit team that can beat teams like GB, NE and close out a team like the vikings or colts to get HFA.

I don't know. I would think a man of McNair's stature and him seeing so much success that he would know a frozen iceberg of pooh when he sees it. I was fine with him keeping Kubiak after the 6-10 season because of the short offseason, etc and after last year it seems we all forgave Kubiak his shortcomings and made the fact that we were down to our 3rd string QB the scape goat of our failures. Now, with our starter in there and only ONE major injury, what is the excuse? What could the problem be outside of a mediocre coach taking advantage of a fairly weak schedule?

The team has lost confidence in his ability to call a game and it is quite evident. Some of them are just Bulls and will continue to go all in, but when a stellar athlete/person like AJ has seemingly given up, that is VERY telling of how the players feel about Kubiak and the coaching staff.

I don't think the D has given up on Wade, I think the D is trying to make too much happen, however, it is extremely disheartening that our OLB's don't get to the QB more with JJ getting double and triple teamed...

I don't know, I'm depressed right now and sick with a terrible loss hangover. Winning cures all they say, but the way it's been going for 7 weeks, I don't see us winning against other playoff caliber teams.

We need change (queue the Obama metaphors), but a good change. We need a respected coach that can light a fire.

People will ask questions if we fire a head coach after a 12-4 season, but if they have an oodle of knowledge about football, the question should be, "Why not sooner?"

 

[Say Watt]

I don't know. I would think a man of McNair's stature and him seeing so much success that he would know a frozen iceberg of pooh when he sees it. I was fine with him keeping Kubiak after the 6-10 season because of the short offseason, etc and after last year it seems we all forgave Kubiak his shortcomings and made the fact that we were down to our 3rd string QB the scape goat of our failures. Now, with our starter in there and only ONE major injury, what is the excuse? What could the problem be outside of a mediocre coach taking advantage of a fairly weak schedule?

The team has lost confidence in his ability to call a game and it is quite evident. Some of them are just Bulls and will continue to go all in, but when a stellar athlete/person like AJ has seemingly given up, that is VERY telling of how the players feel about Kubiak and the coaching staff.

I don't think the D has given up on Wade, I think the D is trying to make too much happen, however, it is extremely disheartening that our OLB's don't get to the QB more with JJ getting double and triple teamed...

I don't know, I'm depressed right now and sick with a terrible loss hangover. Winning cures all they say, but the way it's been going for 7 weeks, I don't see us winning against other playoff caliber teams.

We need change (queue the Obama metaphors), but a good change. We need a respected coach that can light a fire.

People will ask questions if we fire a head coach after a 12-4 season, but if they have an oodle of knowledge about football, the question should be, "Why not sooner?"

I thought the short off-season was last yeah aka our first playoff season.

IMO, there was absolutely zero reason to keep Kubiak after the 6-10 season and if we lose against the Bengals at home, he should be fired this season. I know it is extremely unlikely to happen, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't.

 

[handswarmer]

Different city, different board,....


same ingorance....:mariopalm:

 

[GP]

I don't think McNair "knows" football.

Seriously.

I think he enjoys the pageantry surrounding it, and certainly the $$$.

But the in-depth ins and outs? He doesn't have it. And his GM is (drum roll please...) a FOK'er. Friend of Kubiak.

JJ Watt has maybe actually set this team BACK because without him, we would have cratered. There is no bigger fan of Watt than Smithiak.

 

[Perki-Perk]

I thought the short off-season was last yeah aka our first playoff season.

IMO, there was absolutely zero reason to keep Kubiak after the 6-10 season and if we lose against the Bengals at home, he should be fired this season. I know it is extremely unlikely to happen, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't.

I didn't think I alluded to anything different... 2010 6-10, 2011 10-6, 2012 12-4, so 2012...4-12??? j/k

Yes, If we get bounced in the wild card game after winning it with a 3rd string QB last year...I hope Uncle Bob Smells something fishy...and that fishy smell...would be the rotting turd that the Texans leave on the field. IMO, anything less than the AFC Championship should be considered utter failure since, afterall, that is what we play for.

As far as that Raven fan that posted in here, your team ain't squat either and y'all have issues too. Some people are delirious and some are delusional, but at some point you either take your head out of the sand, realize your team has problems and call for them to be fixed.

 

[Say Watt]

I didn't think I alluded to anything different... 2010 6-10, 2011 10-6, 2012 12-4, so 2012...4-12??? j/k

Yes, If we get bounced in the wild card game after winning it with a 3rd string QB last year...I hope Uncle Bob Smells something fishy...and that fishy smell...would be the rotting turd that the Texans leave on the field. IMO, anything less than the AFC Championship should be considered utter failure since, afterall, that is what we play for.

As far as that Raven fan that posted in here, your team ain't squat either and y'all have issues too. Some people are delirious and some are delusional, but at some point you either take your head out of the sand, realize your team has problems and call for them to be fixed.

My bad. I misread what you posted. I thought you were saying the shortened off-season was the reason for us going 6-10.

 

[PhilpW]

The aggressive play calling has vanished. If we can't run Arian or Andre is covered, we're done offensively. Where are the throws to OD, and we don't even try to get another WR involved. This is not a talent issue any more. Schaub has concerns, but we don't attack teams like we did early in the year.

 

[SheTexan]

I think what really sold me on it was when AJ just let the ball sail through his arms. I had my feelings, had my beliefs but the fan in me kept overlooking them. When AJ non chalantly attempted to catch that sure fire TD, I just knew this team was done playing for Kubiak. Being a "contender" and then being blown out by the likes of Rodgers and Brady because of coaching ineptitude has to be disheartening.

I've also seen some terrible to almost biased officiating against the Texans since the Lions game. Some of it has been downright terrible. I'll have to watch again with out my battle red glasses on, but I don't think the league fancies the Texans much.

Really????? You truly think AJ missed catching that ball because he was DONE playing for Kubiak?? Sorry, but that's just laughable! I've never been a huge Kubes fan, but, I've read MANY, MANY articles about how much the team backs him, and wants him to stay here. Besides, AJ would never hurt the team by deliberately, "non chalantly," not trying to catch a ball. That's not his style, and an insult to him as a player and a person!! JMO! The rest of your post I agree with, esp the officiating part. OD and Posey had so many players on them I thought they had sticky glue on their jerseys!!

 

[thunderkyss]

This "players having no confidence" thing is growing legs. Pretty soon, you're going to convince yourselves of that.

I've been listening to our players all day & none of them has said anything to make me believe what is going around in this thread. I saw nothing to make me believe what you guys are selling.



You're only fooling yourselves.

 

[Perki-Perk]

Really????? You truly think AJ missed catching that ball because he was DONE playing for Kubiak?? Sorry, but that's just laughable! I've never been a huge Kubes fan, but, I've read MANY, MANY articles about how much the team backs him, and wants him to stay here. Besides, AJ would never hurt the team by deliberately, "non chalantly," not trying to catch a ball. That's not his style, and an insult to him as a player and a person!! JMO! The rest of your post I agree with, esp the officiating part. OD and Posey had so many players on them I thought they had sticky glue on their jerseys!!

I've read those same articles, but I respectfully disagree. AJ catches that pass 999 times out of 999. He is that good and he is a person of amazing character, I've said somewhere else, one of my favorite Houston sports people along with Hakeem and Biggio. I don't think he "deliberately" missed the pass, and I don't think he didn't try on purpose, but sometimes, you just become mentally exhausted when you are trying to play for someone you just don't believe in anymore even though you've given your best shot time and again. There is a look of hopelessness on the Texans and it scares the crap out of me. It's something I have never seen, at least not that it was notable enough for me to remember.

 

[Perki-Perk]

This "players having no confidence" thing is growing legs. Pretty soon, you're going to convince yourselves of that.

I've been listening to our players all day & none of them has said anything to make me believe what is going around in this thread. I saw nothing to make me believe what you guys are selling.



You're only fooling yourselves.

You must have been watching the last 2 Cowboys games then were they at least put up a fight...And I can't stand those bastards...but there's no way you watched Texans football and thought, "Wow! These guys are just putting forth max effort!"

 

[Lucky]

AJ drops balls sometimes. He makes up for it with a big play, usually. I don't believe he's quit for a second. I don't think anyone has quit. But, there is a lot of frustration on both sides of the ball. That bye week would have been golden in that it would've give this team a little mini-camp to work through issues.

 

[Perki-Perk]

AJ drops balls sometimes. He makes up for it with a big play, usually. I don't believe he's quit for a second. I don't think anyone has quit. But, there is a lot of frustration on both sides of the ball. That bye week would have been golden in that it would've give this team a little mini-camp to work through issues.

It could just be the hangover from the Loss...but I don't believe I've ever seen AJ drop something that easy to catch and that huge. One of Matt's best passes I've seen and he whiffs?? Either AJ is not the AJ we think he is, or there is something amiss down on Kirby and I know DAMN WELL that AJ is the best receiver in the league. If AJ had a QB like Stafford, there'd be no question. He constantly has to slow down to catch the long ball and then fight off the defender for the reception. AJ would have probably had a couple seasons close to 2000 yards. Even when Cotton Shaub was putting up 4500 yards a few years back, he still never really had arm strength. I mean work out your damn triceps or something..geez.

 

[thunderkyss]

You must have been watching the last 2 Cowboys games then were they at least put up a fight...And I can't stand those bastards...but there's no way you watched Texans football and thought, "Wow! These guys are just putting forth max effort!"

Two plays swing our way & we win that game. Then this "effort" argument would have to wait for another day. I watched our defense contain AD like no one's done all year, especially not recently. & I watched Andre, Arian, Antonio, Kj, & Jj Watt play excellent games yesterday.

Can't tell me we lost because of effort, or because they've lost confidence in their coach.

The taking on the personality of their coach has more stick'um than this.

 

[SheTexan]

Everybody in the flippin NFL wanted the Colts to win yesterday!! They LOVE to exploit a "feel good" story and, with no disrespect to Chuck Phangeo (sp), there was NO WAY IN HELL we were coming out of that game with a win!! We should have taken care of business against the Vikes, which IMHO was an easier team to beat. I've watched every damn game the Texans have ever played, and I'm not sure I've ever seen as many MISSED calls as I saw yesterday. I'm not blaming the refs entirely on our loss, but, I'm not sure that loss wasn't written in the books before the game was even played. WHY would Chuckie come back with ONE game left in the season, not a pressure game either, if not for an end of year FEEL GOOD story the NFL thrives on!! We were doomed before the game started.

 

[handswarmer]

As far as that Raven fan that posted in here, your team ain't squat either and y'all have issues too. Some people are delirious and some are delusional, but at some point you either take your head out of the sand, realize your team has problems and call for them to be fixed.

Never said they were; you misunderstood my post.

Eleboration> Every fan base is calling for heads right now; now is not the time to panic. Sure I know the weaknesses of my team (Ravens) and I do not propose that all of these things will magically disappear.

The Texans have been playing poorly lately- the defense has been abused a couple of games in a row. Schaub is not playing with confidence- pressured he pulls into a shell. Kubiak has adjusted the playcalling because of this.

That being said, you have to dance with the one that brung ya.

 

[handswarmer]

Everybody in the flippin NFL wanted the Colts to win yesterday!! They LOVE to exploit a "feel good" story and, with no disrespect to Chuck Phangeo (sp), there was NO WAY IN HELL we were coming out of that game with a win!! We should have taken care of business against the Vikes, which IMHO was an easier team to beat. I've watched every damn game the Texans have ever played, and I'm not sure I've ever seen as many MISSED calls as I saw yesterday. I'm not blaming the refs entirely on our loss, but, I'm not sure that loss wasn't written in the books before the game was even played. WHY would Chuckie come back with ONE game left in the season, not a pressure game either, if not for an end of year FEEL GOOD story the NFL thrives on!! We were doomed before the game started.

this has to be the funniest post I've read on here...

 

[Say Watt]

I'd just like to clarify something.

I don't think much of anyone has knowingly quit on Kubiak. That is one great thing about the choir boy mentality of this team. They don't quit. But I do think they have lost faith. I honestly don't believe that they still believe in Kubiak and what he is doing. Sure, they like him plenty. How could you not? He IS a player's coach. But he is not the leader this team needs. Everyone knows the definition of stupidity is doing the same things and expecting different results. At least on offense, all we have done is the same things.

Honestly, how could the players have not lost faith by now?

 

[Perki-Perk]

I'd just like to clarify something.

I don't think much of anyone has knowingly quit on Kubiak. That is one great thing about the choir boy mentality of this team. They don't quit. But I do think they have lost faith. I honestly don't believe that they still believe in Kubiak and what he is doing. Sure, they like him plenty. How could you not? He IS a player's coach. But he is not the leader this team needs. Everyone knows the definition of stupidity is doing the same things and expecting different results. At least on offense, all we have done is the same things.

Honestly, how could the players have not lost faith by now?

To further clarify, the "quit" is, to me, more of a subconscious thing. I don't think there was a secret team meeting..don't think there ever is. You know how it happens. A couple people in a private conversation questioning play calling, etc, then next thing you know one of those guys is talking to another about it. Before you know it you've become mentally drowned with negativity and voices of dissension that not even a good pep talk can clear up. The only way to fix that kind of mind set is a new culture and imo the only way to establish a new culture is by bringing in new leadership.

 

[handswarmer]

Please... teams that are going to the playoffs dont "quit" on coaches....

2-14 Chiefs teams quit....Jets quit....Jags diod too....

 

[Dishman]

Please... teams that are going to the playoffs dont "quit" on coaches....

2-14 Chiefs teams quit....Jets quit....Jags diod too....

Right. I don't think anyone's quit. They're just lost as hell right now. Kubiak's got to do some soul searching and find a way to get things back on track.

 

[ObsiWan]

Goes hand in hand with Lance Z latest:

http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootba...iak-cant-rely-on-the-system-he-has-to-fix-it/

Thanks for the link. And Lance is definitely on point right here...

Matt Schaub has saved his worst football of the year for the end of the season. Right now, he is playing football like the guy at the Let It Ride table in Las Vegas who is playing $5 per hand. You know that guy doesn’t bet enough to win big. He won’t go completely broke because he won’t risk that last $20 bill in his pocket, but you also know that all he’s doing is killing time. He’s not really gambling to win. That’s what Schaub feels like to me right now.

The running game and the offensive line issues can’t be fixed right now. Kubiak and his crew can run more toss plays or they can run more of their gap plays, but the outside zone game, the Texans’ bread-and-butter, just isn’t going to get it done this year. This offensive line is nowhere near as effective as last year’s group was and a talent infusion is needed at two and maybe three spots. That can’t be fixed in-season, but it can be managed. Maximizing the team’s strengths and minimizing their weaknesses is on Gary Kubiak’s shoulders now and he has to rise to the occasion and find a way to win a hand with 9-10 suited.