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I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
Did you see the game on Sunday?
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
I'll pose two questions to you:
How do you think Texans fans would feel if they had started out 0-3 but were now 12-3? There's historical precedent to answer that, if you've lived in Houston long enough. How do you think fans would feel if the team had lost to the Packers and Patriots in a close, hard fought game?
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
Its not that we're losing its HOW we're losing.
I seriously, SERIOUSLY think that depends on who you ask.
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
Some of it is also how they are winning...
That's just reality, record be damned.
So if you see something that you find fault with and mention it in here then you're a "miserable fan"? I just don't understand that, probably never will. See, most of you ****ing clones think you're either with us or against us. You either got your Texans gear on and you're waving your little flag and everything is coming up roses or you're a "hater" and must be leading a miserable life where you can never be happy and never appreciate what you've been lucky enough to be given.
What kind of Black/White world do you live in? I see Gray everywhere. I'm happy with what's working, wanting to see improvement with what's not, and frustrated with things that seem to go unaddressed for years and years. I'm going to point at the naked emperor and say that he's nekkid if he doesn't have any clothes on (doesn't mean I hate him) and I'm going to applaud him when he does something great (doesn't mean he's infallible). The one thing I hate about this place is that if you don't agree with what all the posters around you have to say then you're somehow a bad fan and you don't know what you're looking at. It's always been that way here and before at the other board. Maybe it's part of being a sports fan or something, I don't know. Texecutioner lately spends more time telling people that they aren't qualified to talk about football than anyone I've ever seen. and now you're going to wade in and complain about all the miserable fans? Guess what? I'm not miserable. I'm perfectly happy with my football experience this year. Could it be better? Sure.
If it ends in one of these and not a bunch of these :kubepalm:
then yes, it will be better. Even if it doesn't it's the best season they've ever had. What's not to like? Why does dissent about details or the play of a few guys have to translate into my being miserable fan to you? You see, instead of discussing the relative merits of these things (I think we need to go in another direction at QB, maybe you don't agree, we go back and forth... you know) instead we get all this posing and posturing from a bunch of fans who think they're self appointed fan-ambassadors or something. Like Saudi "moral police" they run up and down the board telling people that they are whiners for not whistling Zip-a-Dee-Doo-da out their asses because the Texans have 12 wins. To me that is what makes a miserable fan.
Which question? The first one was answered in 1993 when the Oilers started off 1-4 and ended up 12-4 to finish the season. This city was PUMPED. Contrast that with how the city's fans feel as a whole right now. Empirically speaking, that question has been answered, and it proves the point.
As to the second question, I think it's fairly evident that people would have the notion that the Texans would have a shot against the top teams if they would have even put up a fight in those games. As it stands, people don't really have much faith that the Texans can beat a top team, or at least, a team with a top QB. When you couple those losses with things like letting bad teams hang around, letting Chad Henne put up 400 yards, and watching the Vikings beat them all around on Sunday, then yeah, people aren't going to pumping sunshine. That's just reality, record be damned.
So if you see something that you find fault with and mention it in here then you're a "miserable fan"?
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
2007 Dallas Cowboys:
At one point 12-1.
Stumbled to a 13-3 record, but ended up as #1 seed with 1st round bye, and home field throughout playoffs.
Lost their first playoff game at home to the 10-6 New York Giants, who peaked at the right time, and went on to win the Super Bowl.
This Texans season is looking very similar to that Cowboys season, much to my chagrin, and the delight of my jackass Cowgirls fan friend who pointed out the similarities to me.
This Texans team is not currently good enough to go to the Super Bowl, despite their current record.
If you can't see that, you are an extreme homer, or just extraordinarily optimistic.
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
This team is slumping at the worst possible time. Every facet of this team, from coaching to all three phases, they seem to be in a collective funk and out-of-sync with each other. Teams need to hit the playoffs on fire, riding a wave of peak performances. The Texans are doing the exact opposite from all perspectives.
I maintain we were never as good as we looked early in the season and we're not as bad as we look right now. I expect us to beat the Colts and whoever comes through the 4 seed game and then lose to the winner of Denver vs NE. That would make for a good season, and is about the ceiling we can expect under the Schaub/Kubiak regime.
If they keep up this funk they are in, and lose that game, I'll jump back into the Fire Kubiak thread like a flame to straw. Count on it.
The way people are talking around here, you'd think this team was on the outside looking in with no shot at the playoffs instead of playing for the #1 overall seed.
I'm not sure I've seen a more miserable fanbase for a 12-3 team.
We have every right to be feeling down about this team.
So you think this team is a Super Bowl favorite??? Because thats what a 12-3 team would normally imply, correct?
We may not have Seattle momentum, but I'm proud we are playoff bound and then it's a whole new season, any given Sunday, I mean look who the jaguars almost beat. Momentum doesn't mean crap most of the time.
US!:mariopalm: We are backing into the playoffs no matter how you look at it. Teams that back in historically don't do well. It's depressing because of the way we started off. I don't see how anyone could be confident after the way we have played the last 6 games.
Nothing at all wrong about being down about the team. I'm sure several of the players & there'd better be a few coaches feeling down about this team.
But they're not giving up.
Ironically, Kubiak is being criticized for quitting.
I dont think being 12-3 would imply Super Bowl Favorites and no more telling than this season with a couple teams with that record. SOS plays into this a lot as does momentum
Exactly. For the longest time the TT mantra was 'show me the Ws!'. Well, we've got as many Ws as any Houston professional football team has ever achieved and now that's not good enough. Goalposts = moved. The moaning is also somewhat limited on TT, have a listen to the call in shows or worse, read the Comical comments sections. Worst fans in the country without a doubt.
I think the term backing into the playoffs is being missused by yourself and others. The Texans arent getting into the playoffs because of other teams losing at the end of the season
Schottey: Texans
The Colts stuck around when this game was in Houston, so they could pull the upset here, but Houston is playing for playoff seeding and just has way too much talent to pick against here.
Miller: Colts
Andrew Luck is quickly gaining Tom Brady-like status with me. That means only picking against him in the most dire of situations. This isn't one of those situations. Colts win.
Nagler: Texans
The Texans have fallen back to Earth after spending the better part of the year as the "most complete team in the league." Yeah, that's all over now as they scramble just to keep home-field advantage, which they do by beating the Colts.
Dunlevy: Colts
The Texans won't have anything to play for, so expect the Colts to celebrate an emotional day with a win. Chuck Pagano will be on the sidelines, so look for his players to give it their all.
Also Picking the Colts: Frenz; Hangst; Gagnon
How about having some higher standards and wanting more than just the Houston Oilers 2.0 for this franchise?
So regular season wins are good enough for you? I guess this Sunday is your Super Bowl?
Worsts fans in the country? Whatever. Same city has produced 11 straight seasons of sellouts at Reliant. Only three winning seasons in that 11, as well.
You seem seem to like the koolaid drinking sunshine pumpers with rainbows blasting out of their butts to be considered "good fans".
I think this has been a very patient fanbase.
When we were 2-14, people just wanted wins.
When we were 9-7, people wanted to see the playoffs for the first time.
Now that we have a playoff team, we are supposed to just be satisfied according to your homer logic?
How about having some higher standards and wanting more than just the Houston Oilers 2.0 for this franchise?
Exactly. For the longest time the TT mantra was 'show me the Ws!'. Well, we've got as many Ws as any Houston professional football team has ever achieved and now that's not good enough. Goalposts = moved. The moaning is also somewhat limited on TT, have a listen to the call in shows or worse, read the Comical comments sections. Worst fans in the country without a doubt.
Woopie Doooooo!!!!!!!!! We sure is hell aint heading to the playoffs with a head of steam.
I dont think being 12-3 would imply Super Bowl Favorites and no more telling than this season with a couple teams with that record. SOS plays into this a lot as does momentum
as many Ws as any Houston professional football team has ever achieved
Ahh yes, the homer card. Nothing worse than being called a fan of the team I support?
How about having some higher standards and wanting more than just the Houston Oilers 2.0 for this franchise?
This does get a bit old. I'm a fan, and right now I'm doing a bit of fence sitting until the Indy game. When the team was 2-14 I was a fan and was calling for Kubiak's head on a stick. I'll still be a fan if the team wins the superbowl or is one and done in the playoffs. Depending on what happens I'll be ecstatic and loving the world or calling for Kubiak's head on a stick.
I'm a fan. It's what I do.
Exactly. For the longest time the TT mantra was 'show me the Ws!'. Well, we've got as many Ws as any Houston professional football team has ever achieved and now that's not good enough. Goalposts = moved. The moaning is also somewhat limited on TT, have a listen to the call in shows or worse, read the Comical comments sections. Worst fans in the country without a doubt.
The ones that I think are "miserable" fans are the ones who rip the team when they are down. We lose a game then it's "they can't do this" "they can't do that" "they're worthless here, they're worthless there" but when we win it's "we're number one" "we're the number one team" "we're the beat"
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When your comments sound like the same crap a tacks fan would be saying here, you aren't being supportive, you aren't being a fan. Period.
I didn't know that Kubiak was the coach for 2-14.
That's it in a nutshell. IMO, that's all that needs to be said. If they stay where they are at, they'll be one and done. If they get their collective act togeather maybe they'll win a playoff game or two. Who knows? No one on this board knows because we haven't even gotten to the damn playoffs yet.
I'm waiting for the Indy game. If they keep up this funk they are in, and lose that game, I'll jump back into the Fire Kubiak thread like a flame to straw. Count on it. Other than that, I'm not sure what my reaction will be if they win. Kind of depends on how they win.