Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

DeMeco Ryans traded to Philadelphia

fiasco west said:
I don't F'n understand why this team always lets solid vets walk away.

Especially a guy like Demeco who was loved here by his teammates and fans and seemed willing to play here DESPITE not playing 3rd downs you hardly ever hear him complain about it.

This team is relying TOO much on the draft. Which is fine if you are not a team that people are expecting to come out of the AFC.

You don't see the Ravens trading Ray Lewis do you? (yes I know Demeco is no Ray, but the situation is kinda the same)
Click to expand...

At this rate we can expect to see Schaub and Johnson walk within the next two years also. In the meantime we get to see Jacoby Jones, Kareem Jackson, and the gaggle of overpaid backups stay on the team.
 
The early reactions of the players are not positive. Want to hear McNair and Phillips' thoughts on this.

Although I see the logic in the move, due to the cap and snaps taken in the 3-4, Smith needs to go, he adds no value to this organization or the town.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
Eagles just pulled a fast one on the Texans. I'm sorry but DeMeco Ryans was the true leader and captain of our defense. Need I remind you what happened when DeMeco went down with a season-ending ACL injury early in the 2010 season? The entire defense fell apart without his leadership, and we went from a 3-1 team to a 6-10 team that ranked at the bottom in every important defensive category.

I am very upset right now. Unless it's a second-round pick and an effort to clear more cap space to go after Mike Wallace -- making him an offer the Steelers can't match, I don't understand this trade one bit. Now if they added Mike Wallace and gave up their 26th pick in the first round to Pittsburgh, then the extra draft pick from the Eagles makes sense.
Click to expand...

You just lost a MLB as well as an OLB, RT, RG, CB# 2B and 3rd string QB and we're going to target a WR? :kubepalm:

This isn't to go after anyone. Texans simply clearing cap room. We'll go defense heavy again in the draft and be more improved.
 
I'm sorry did I miss where Ryans had returned to being an everydown LB again? His cap number was not in alignment with his play on the field. Would I have prefered that the Texans had been able to restructure his deal and keep him? Sure, but if he was unwilling to do so he needed to go.

Being a leader off the field is over rated in professional team sports, IMO; and you cannot lead on the field when you are on the sidelines.
 
Topher said:
tumblr_lfgasoW5dY1qarja8.gif
Click to expand...

x's infinity!
 
Bulls on Parade said:
The entire defense fell apart without his leadership, and we went from a 3-1 team to a 6-10 team that ranked at the bottom in every important defensive category.
Click to expand...
That's partially true. Ryans went down just prior to the half in week 6. The Texans were already the worst (statistically) defense in the league in week 6. However, they certainly didn't get better without Ryans.
 
Slow down, grown ups...

children at play.

Get over it. This is a grown man's business. If you think it's OK to pay a 2 down LB 6 m (one down for a ton of the season), then you're higher than the 2004 version of Ricky Williams. Plus, who knows if we are about to move #26 to get MORE picks.

I ****ing love Rick Smith right now!!
 
wow.. this suprised me 10 times more than the winston thing. cant believe we let go the heart and cornerstone of the defense. i sure hope rick smith knows what hes doing because he sure is scaring a lot of people and making people mad.
 
Allstar said:
The Texans must have a list of players that our untouchable core. I'd Say:

Schaub
Foster
AJ
Brown
Myers

Cushing
Watt
Joseph
Smith
Reed
Quin (maybe)

Everyone else, they are looking to upgrade, or are willing to part with if their cap number is too large.
Click to expand...

On defense I wouldn't be surprised to see Smith get either traded, or let go at the end of next season. He's been here a while, gets more expensive each year, and get older each year. He's a prime candidate for some salary trimming.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
You're one to talk with your overactive speculations and your essay-long diatribe on every single other ****ing topic.

Carr, Okoye, Dunta, and Mario meant nowhear NEAR as much to this team COMBINED as DeMeco did.

Obviously you missed the second half of last season where he finally bounced back to form.

Ridiculous.
Click to expand...

LOL.

You're crying aren't you? They cut the one guy who can't be cut, and you're BUTT HURT over it. Geez.

All of you look like children right now.

Was THAT a brief enough post for you?
 
ThaShark316 said:
Slow down, grown ups...

children at play.

Get over it. This is a grown man's business. If you think it's OK to pay a 2 down LB 6 m (one down for a ton of the season), then you're higher than the 2004 version of Ricky Williams. Plus, who knows if we are about to move #26 to get MORE picks.

I ****ing love Rick Smith right now!!
Click to expand...


I'm surprised you're on board with this, Shark.
 
GP said:
LOL.

You're crying aren't you? They cut the one guy who can't be cut, and you're BUTT HURT over it. Geez.

All of you look like children right now.

Was THAT a brief enough post for you?
Click to expand...

GP, I'm repping you for a month straight for the text I put in BOLD.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I'm sorry did I miss where Ryans had returned to being an everydown LB again? His cap number was not in alignment with his play on the field. Would I have prefered that the Texans had been able to restructure his deal and keep him? Sure, but if he was unwilling to do so he needed to go.

Being a leader off the field is over rated in professional team sports, IMO; and you cannot lead on the field when you are on the sidelines.
Click to expand...

This all may be true, but that doesn't change the kind of player he is capable of being in another system. He didn't fall off and forget how to play. I don't have a problem with the fact that we traded him. I think trading him was a move that needed to be made to free up some cap space, but I have a problem with what we got. We traded him to a team that had a "MAJOR NEED" at MLB. A 2nd rounder for Demeco wouldn't have been a bad deal at all from their standpoint. They just got a very solid veteran LB who can be a leader for a 4th rounder. The Eagles easily got the better end of this deal.
 
ThaShark316 said:
Slow down, grown ups...

children at play.

Get over it. This is a grown man's business. If you think it's OK to pay a 2 down LB 6 m (one down for a ton of the season), then you're higher than the 2004 version of Ricky Williams. Plus, who knows if we are about to move #26 to get MORE picks.

I ****ing love Rick Smith right now!!
Click to expand...
lots of love for a 4th round pick
 
GP said:
LOL.

You're crying aren't you? They cut the one guy who can't be cut, and you're BUTT HURT over it. Geez.

All of you look like children right now.

Was THAT a brief enough post for you?
Click to expand...

For the first time ever, yes. Thank God.
 
It's now Sharpton's time to shine as the starter like he was before he got hurt last year. Don't forget about this guy. He's a good one and a lot younger (and less expensive).

I hate to see DeMeco go like you guys, and yes, he's an irreplaceable leader. But the starters now (Cushing, Barwin, Reed, Sharpton) are set and if we re-sign Dobbins, the depth will be him, Nading, Braman, Alexander and the new draft pick.
 
Wolf6151 said:
On defense I wouldn't be surprised to see Smith get either traded, or let go at the end of next season. He's been here a while, gets more expensive each year, and get older each year. He's a prime candidate for some salary trimming.
Click to expand...

And it would be a dumb move to let Smith go but it's the Texans M.O to do so.

Trade away all your good vets in hopes to draft more good vets.
 
valleytexfan said:
It's now Sharpton's time to shine as the starter like he was before he got hurt last year. Don't forget about this guy. He's a good one and a lot younger (and less expensive).

I hate to see DeMeco go like you guys, and yes, he's an irreplaceable leader. But the starters now (Cushing, Barwin, Reed, Sharpton) are set and if we re-sign Dobbins, the depth will be him, Nading, Braman, Alexander and the new draft pick.
Click to expand...
I think there will be a day you may regret wanting Sharpton in there.

ThaShark316 said:
What you thought you were going to get for him? A mid-2nd?
0_rofl.gif
Click to expand...
I wasn't looking to trade him. Sharpton doesn't even come close to his talent, instinct and leadership.
 
This aint your father's Texans...it looks like the Texans are about doing what they can to win and not doing things to remain loyal. I know it sucks but such is the NFL these days.

That being said if they get rid of OD..ill be pissed (maily cause i just bought his jersey)
 
Texecutioner said:
This all may be true, but that doesn't change the kind of player he is capable of being in another system. He didn't fall off and forget how to play. I don't have a problem with the fact that we traded him. I think trading him was a move that needed to be made to free up some cap space, but I have a problem with what we got. We traded him to a team that had a "MAJOR NEED" at MLB. A 2nd rounder for Demeco wouldn't have been a bad deal at all from their standpoint. They just got a very solid veteran LB who can be a leader for a 4th rounder. The Eagles easily got the better end of this deal.
Click to expand...

Another system being the one we no longer run.

The value of a non-QB vet will always be less than that of a draftpick in a salaray capped NFL, even more so if the vet has an injury history.
 
Vinny said:
I think there will be a day you may regret wanting Sharpton in there.


I wasn't looking to trade him. Sharpton doesn't even come close to his talent, instinct and leadership.
Click to expand...

So now, let's pay him 6M to sit out for 2 downs?

Not saying it was YOU, Vin, but people tore Ryans up last season around here...
 
ThaShark316 said:
Slow down, grown ups...

children at play.

Get over it. This is a grown man's business. If you think it's OK to pay a 2 down LB 6 m (one down for a ton of the season), then you're higher than the 2004 version of Ricky Williams. Plus, who knows if we are about to move #26 to get MORE picks.

I ****ing love Rick Smith right now!!
Click to expand...

Can u seriously believe the sheer volume of disgust and vitriol right now???

I am stunned not because he was cut, I'm stunned that people act like they just watched their entire football world explode.

He had a blown achilles, a bum shoulder, and a bum elbow...we got a 4th for him and moved up 12 slots in the 3rd, and lost his salary in the process...but it was a HORRIBLE! move for us?

Getting attached to a player clouds the judgment.

Oh, and just because Duane Brown tweets he was "surprised" does not mean he's angry. Where did Duane tweet "I'm effing FURIOUS about this!!!"? That's just people manipulating his words to back up their agenda. Period.

This thread will hit 35 pages. And it will be 98% full of "woe is me" end of our world posts. LOL.
 
valleytexfan said:
It's now Sharpton's time to shine as the starter like he was before he got hurt last year. Don't forget about this guy. He's a good one and a lot younger (and less expensive).
Click to expand...
Don't forget that Sharpton is not Wade's guy. He was drafted by Frank Bush and Rick Smith. I don't think he's a fit for what Phillips looks for in an inside linebacker.
 
ThaShark316 said:
Slow down, grown ups...

children at play.

Get over it. This is a grown man's business. If you think it's OK to pay a 2 down LB 6 m (one down for a ton of the season), then you're higher than the 2004 version of Ricky Williams. Plus, who knows if we are about to move #26 to get MORE picks.

I ****ing love Rick Smith right now!!
Click to expand...


I'm right with ya, this is a smart move on all accounts. People don't understand the value concern. Yes he's a great player, he doesn't fit the direction we're trying to go, and I'll root like hell for him in Philly, but this is a great move.
 
Aren't the Texans pretty good when it comes to drafting in the 4th?

Thanks for everything, DeMeco! We will miss you!!
 
spurstexanstros said:
This aint your father's Texans...it looks like the Texans are about doing what they can to win and not doing things to remain loyal. I know it sucks but such is the NFL these days.

That being said if they get rid of OD..ill be pissed (maily cause i just bought his jersey)
Click to expand...

Its funny, people talk about this team being too loyal to certain players, yet when a move that other teams make happens look out. :roast:
 
Just throwing around some ideas, but what if we trade Ben Tate for a second rounder now? Then try to replace him with someone like Chris Polk from Washington or Isiah Pead from Cincy in the 3rd or 4th?
 
There's nothing "great" about this move. We didn't get 2 seconds or something. There is nothing "great" about getting a 4th round pick. Even if it alleviates some cap pressure. Those deals aren't worthy of using the word "great".

"Great" is what the Rams got for the #2 pick.
 
XI CMURDER IX said:
Just throwing around some ideas, but what if we trade Ben Tate for a second rounder now? Then try to replace him with someone like Chris Polk from Washington or Isiah Pead from Cincy in the 3rd or 4th?
Click to expand...
There's another thread that speaks to this. Let's stick to this trade here.
 
XI CMURDER IX said:
Just throwing around some ideas, but what if we trade Ben Tate for a second rounder now? Then try to replace him with someone like Chris Polk from Washington or Isiah Pead from Cincy in the 3rd or 4th?
Click to expand...
why does everyone want to trade proven for roll of the dice? Are we rebuilding?
 
XI CMURDER IX said:
Just throwing around some ideas, but what if we trade Ben Tate for a second rounder now? Then try to replace him with someone like Chris Polk from Washington or Isiah Pead from Cincy in the 3rd or 4th?
Click to expand...

There is no point in building through the draft when we're just gonna get rid of the players we draft in 3 years anyway.

For God's sake we haven't even won a title for the strategy of "letting every player who even remotely poses a cap issue go" to be a good one.
 
I don't understand the league's infatuation with draft picks. Half of them don't pan out to anything. I understand our cap situation is terrible, but i'd rather do a swap for a proven player in this league.


Add Hightower to our draft board.
 
GP said:
All of you look like children right now.
Click to expand...

What you're obviously not comprehending here is that most of us here are loyal fans of some of these players. You might be right, Ryans may no longer the player he was, he was too expensive, he's injury prone, and etc. But that doesn't mean we're all children because we're upset that one of the fan favorites and leaders of this team is now gone. This is what sports is about. The next time we cut/trade someone, I'll make sure to calculate the salary cap savings and rejoice at the savings and possible mid-round picks that are now expected to come in and take us to the Super Bowl. Now that's a joke.
 
NitroGSXR said:
Aren't the Texans pretty good when it comes to drafting in the 4th?

Thanks for everything, DeMeco! We will miss you!!
Click to expand...

They are and have been a great drafting team. But it's no use if we're going to trade these guys after showing signs of age. That extra experience becomes a GOOD thing when it comes to the playoffs. Ask the Ravens and Steelers.
 
ThaShark316 said:
What you thought you were going to get for him? A mid-2nd?
0_rofl.gif
Click to expand...

Yep.

Not even that, he should not have been traded for any picks unless it was a first.

It makes no sense to put a good team together then cut key players and trade them away for 4th round draft picks. We were supposed to get CLOSER to the SB this year not start some weird rebuilding.

I pray I am wrong but this offseason just gets worse and worse.
 
Nawzer said:
What you're obviously not comprehending here is that most of us here are loyal fans of some of these players. You might be right, Ryans may no longer the player he was, he was too expensive, he's injury prone, and etc. But that doesn't mean we're all children because we're upset that one of the fan favorites and leaders of this team is now gone. This is what sports is about. The next time we cut/trade someone, I'll make sure to calculate the salary cap savings and rejoice at the savings and possible mid-round picks that are now expected to come in and take us to the Super Bowl. Now that's a joke.
Click to expand...

Heh, Looks like Daryl Morey runs the Houston Texans as well.
 
Vinny said:
why does everyone want to trade proven for roll of the dice? Are we rebuilding?
Click to expand...

Because in the NFL you can't keep every over priced/over paid veteran just because you like him. There are salary cap issues to deal with and Demeco was making way to much money to be a 2 down LB. We also will need to re-sign Cushing, Barwin, and Duane Brown soon and that money has to come from somewhere.
 
I'm not happy to lose DeMeco, but taking my personal feelings out of the equation, I can see where his salary is too high to justify for a guy who plays only two downs. He was never going to be on the field on 3rd down as long as Cush is healthy.
The grade on this trade is incomplete until I know for sure what picks ate involved, and more importantly, what they do with the added cap space.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top