Kubiaks Demise.

[silvrhand]

lets not start with the Coach C talk just yet. This game is not fully kubiaks fault. See how i said FULLY. 4 50+ yard FGs. 2 of them without the raiders even gaining a first down. Vickers Droping a wide open pass that was an easy TD. Matt Schaub playing QB for the raiders and throwing a perfect pass to beat the texans . See its not all on Kubiak but everything else i didnt mention is.

This is Kubiak's team over 6 years now.. even if the players are not performing it's his fault.. he's been able to pick and choose now and had time to figure out where people need to play to get the best from his team..

Sorry, time for Cowher power, it was last year too...

 

[EllisUnit]

This is Kubiak's team over 6 years now.. even if the players are not performing it's his fault.. he's been able to pick and choose now and had time to figure out where people need to play to get the best from his team..

Sorry, time for Cowher power, it was last year too...

i can hire the best damn hit man in the world, if he dont deliver is that on me our on him ? I do place some of today's loss on Kubiak but to say he is the main and only reason we lost is a little much. How come you didn't say this after we beat the steelers ? Cause he obviously didnt help us win right. Oh he didnt help us win but he had everything to do with us losing today, ok i got it now

 

[MojoX]

Jacoby Jones, IMO, is running his routes too deep before making his cut, which means Schaub's passes that look like Schaub is underthrowing and hitting the dirt in from of JJ is more JJ's fault than anything. I have been thinking about it. I sat there in the stadium and thought, "Why is this same scenario--the ball being thrown to JJ too high or too low all the time--continuing to happen so much? Maybe JJ is not running SHARP, CLEAN, ACCURATE routes and Schaub is subsequently throwing it higher than where JJ is at that moment in the route or Schaub is throwing it too shallow. Know what I mean? That sort of stuff cost us today. Multiple times.

I am with you here. On a CBS replay of one of those throws the color guy noted that Jones was slow coming out of his break. Instead of a sharp cut, he came out in a long curve which threw off the timing, leaving the pass to hit the dirt wide.

But those too high throws and behind the receiver throws to the other cats are on Schaub. I think that is one thing that separates passers like Manning from the pack: hitting receivers in stride. I like Schaub, but that Vickers drop is, to me, shared between the two. Schaub should know better than to throw a ball like that to a fullback, but since he got his hands on it, Vickers' job is to reel it in.

 

[cdollaz]

Some of the blame for Vickers' drop is on whoever called the play. If he is known as not having good hands, then they shouldn't have called his number. The coaching staff should be putting players into positions where they can succeed, not fail. I wouldn't put an introvert from my accounting dept. In front of a customer to close a deal or train them. I would not be putting them in a position to be successful. Similarly, this coaching staff should know their players and what they can do. If he is not good at catching the ball, then don't throw to him.

 

[silvrhand]

i can hire the best damn hit man in the world, if he dont deliver is that on me our on him ? I do place some of today's loss on Kubiak but to say he is the main and only reason we lost is a little much. How come you didn't say this after we beat the steelers ? Cause he obviously didnt help us win right. Oh he didnt help us win but he had everything to do with us losing today, ok i got it now

I haven't been a kubiak fan for years now this is nothing new for me. He's a backup quarterback that's a mediocre coach. Sorry don't think he's the right guy to get our franchise where we want it to be.

 

[EllisUnit]

I haven't been a kubiak fan for years now this is nothing new for me. He's a backup quarterback that's a mediocre coach. Sorry don't think he's the right guy to get our franchise where we want it to be.

Go back and look at how MANY QBS and COACHES who were terrible that have won super bowls. And why because of defense. They are competent enough to win us a Superbowl, they just arent good enough to do it alone.

 

[thunderkyss]

In all seriousness, can someone explain to me how Detroit was able to go from 0-16 a few years ago to where they are now, and we're still struggling after more than half a decade of the same staff?

I'm serious. I'm lost here.

& just where the heck are the Detroit Lions?

Media Darlings? Is that what you want?

They were 6-10 last season. 6 & 10...

We don't get credit for beating the Colts or Miami, but we put the Lions on a pedestal because they beat Tampa Bay (3-2), Kansas City (2-3), Minnesota (1-4), & Dallas (2-2)?

I'm not buying it. That's just haterade.

& they damn sure didn't play 4 full quarters against the Cowboys.

 

[GP]

haha yeah all this as well

I know, right?

The massive amount of dumbshit things that happened in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Quarters of the game completely erased an entire 1st Quarter of football that was spotless by the Texans.

In the 2nd Quarter, and I mean EARLY in the 2nd Quarter, I just knew we were done. My wife was all into the game, and I sat there picking through my soggy nachos and trying to make designs out of the cheese and peppers.

Only Toro using the slingshot to toss t-shirts into the stands made me smile today. Toro is underpaid.

 

[hot pickle]

i think theres a good chance this is kubes last year. and the scary thing is i see mcnair making wade the head coach

 

[Dan B.]

& just where the heck are the Detroit Lions?

Media Darlings? Is that what you want?

They were 6-10 last season. 6 & 10...

We don't get credit for beating the Colts or Miami, but we put the Lions on a pedestal because they beat Tampa Bay (3-2), Kansas City (2-3), Minnesota (1-4), & Dallas (2-2)?

I'm not buying it. That's just haterade.

& they damn sure didn't play 4 full quarters against the Cowboys.

Tell me you are kidding.

The Lions have looked immeasurably better than the Texans this year.

Especially when it matters.

 

[HTown2ATX]

i think theres a good chance this is kubes last year. and the scary thing is i see mcnair making wade the head coach

^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^ Is my greatest fear that I and others have voiced since he was hired.

 

[Thorn]

All those disappointments from the Oilers, and now we have this to put up with. WTF did Houston ever do to deserve this crap?

Will someone please explain to me how much worse Wade is as a head coach than Kubiak? I'm moving quickly back to the Fire Kubiak bandwagon if we end up losing the next two games, which now seems likely.

 

[HTown2ATX]

Will someone please explain to me how much worse Wade is as a head coach than Kubiak? I'm moving quickly back to the Fire Kubiak bandwagon if we end up losing the next two games, which now seems likely.

It's not that he would be worse per say.......but I don't see him as doing any better. That is the issue. (and judging by how coddled Kubiak has been by McNair, Wade being coach would probably be minimum 5 years regardless of W-L record....eg Kubiak)

I think a lot of us would like to see a coach like Cowher, Gruden, etc, someone who has a bad attitude and rings to back it up.


FWIW

 

[Marcus]

When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.

 

[Mr teX]

Screw it then, lets just hire Rich Kotite.

 

[DexmanC]

[rant]

Jim Schwarz is well on his way to building in Detroit what he built
in Tennessee (that damn DEFENSE,) and they have a Franchise QB,
Franchize WR, and a 4-0 record with THREE WINS ON THE ROAD.

This is only his SECOND YEAR after inheriting an 0-16 TEAM.
He's already accomplished more than Gary Kubiak has, just
by the start of his 2011 season. Why is Kubiak TOLERATED
HERE FOR SO FRICKIN' LONG???

The offense LOOKS powerful. The defense LOOKS good, but they
HAVE NEVER BEEN THREE GAMES OVER .500

If ya'll feel me, just breathe deep, and watch this team crawl to mediocrity
or fall off. That's been 5 straight years under Kubiak, will year SIX be
any different?

Insanity = consistently doing the same thing while hoping for a different
result (perfectly describes the tenure of Gary Kubiak)

[/rant]

 

[Hervoyel]

When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.

You're right. Some of you don't.

 

[Hervoyel]

All those disappointments from the Oilers, and now we have this to put up with. WTF did Houston ever do to deserve this crap?

Will someone please explain to me how much worse Wade is as a head coach than Kubiak? I'm moving quickly back to the Fire Kubiak bandwagon if we end up losing the next two games, which now seems likely.

We find ourselves at 3-4 and Kubiak will think he's being burned at the stake the heat will get so bad.

 

[houstonspartan]

[rant]

Jim Schwarz is well on his way to building in Detroit what he built
in Tennessee (that damn DEFENSE,) and they have a Franchise QB,
Franchize WR, and a 4-0 record with THREE WINS ON THE ROAD.

This is only his SECOND YEAR after inheriting an 0-16 TEAM.
He's already accomplished more than Gary Kubiak has, just
by the start of his 2011 season. Why is Kubiak TOLERATED
HERE FOR SO FRICKIN' LONG???

The offense LOOKS powerful. The defense LOOKS good, but they
HAVE NEVER BEEN THREE GAMES OVER .500

If ya'll feel me, just breathe deep, and watch this team crawl to mediocrity
or fall off. That's been 5 straight years under Kubiak, will year SIX be
any different?

Insanity = consistently doing the same thing while hoping for a different
result (perfectly describes the tenure of Gary Kubiak)

[/rant]

Kubiak's defense has always been "Well, he took over a terrible team and had to re-build. They were 2-14."

Fine, but, it doesn't get much worse than 0-16, folks. The Lions were TERRIBLE a few years ago.

The way the NFL is structured now, it takes three, maybe four, years to re-build a team. And if a team is REALLY bad, I'll give them a longer leash, and say four, maybe five years.

Technically, the Lions shouldn't be as good as their are. But, they are.

Meanwhile, we wait.

 

[houstonspartan]

Also, what's really head-banging about this whole thing is that we could have been, should have been, in like, year 3 of a new coach's system. Ugh.

 

[Thorn]

We find ourselves at 3-4 and Kubiak will think he's being burned at the stake the heat will get so bad.

And now with all the injuries, he might get a flyer from Uncle Bob.

 

[beerlover]

If Texans don't make the playoffs in weakest AFC South since franchise inception will force termination regardless of whatever love affair exists with it's Head Coach

 

[Carr Bombed]

Conservative. In the 1st half we have a shot for a 48 yard field goal, and we punt, we had the ball 3 and 1 2 times in their territory and we punt. We are so predictable on play calling it gets a little disturbing at times.

I like Kubiak and what he can do with an offense, BUT to never take any risks, to never go for it and to just go pure flat on playing and play calling is inexcusable.

and these refs are being slightly biased.

It's called Aggie football.....have you watched them play at all. Gary Kubiak is a "aggie man" and he coaches like one too. However the dumbest thing he did yesterday was challenge that Joel Dreessen catch.. I was begging him not to throw that flag and as soon as I saw the red flag come out, I started cursing at my T.V. Nobody pisses away timeouts better than Gary "I couldn't manage a clock if my life depended on it" Kubiak. That play had 0 chance of getting overturned and the only thing he was doing there was pissing away a crucial second half timeout....which might've cost us the game.

 

[Double Barrel]

Hmm. Well, two things.

1) Mike Shanahan is not nice. Dude would eat his kid if he had to in order to win a game. When the Broncos won those two Super Bowls back to back, their offense was "foot on throat" full throttle. Which leads to my next point...

2) John Elway. Kubiak still thinks he has John Elway. He doesn't. Shanahan's meanness and John Elway's talent is what drove the Broncos.

3) Terrell Davis - Even Elway couldn't win a Super Bowl without a good running back.

And now with all the injuries, he might get a flyer from Uncle Bob.

Don't forget the lock-out!

 

[Texecutioner]

When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.

Your bravado of lashing out at fans for wanting a winning regime is so tiring and old at this point. Show me a regime of a HC/GM that have a history of winning here or that could put up back to back seasons of winning or title contention in this city, and then you'll stop hearing about a HC change. But for you sit back and act like fans are so irrational in year 6 of a regime that should have been axed last off season is pretty old at this stage.

We'll make the playoffs this season though, and your boy Gary will get his extension due to being in a terrible division where Manning sat out.

 

[Runner]

Also, what's really head-banging about this whole thing is that we could have been, should have been, in like, year 3 of a new coach's system. Ugh.

No doubt. All the consternation about change being disruptive seems misplaced. Something needs to knock this team off the right path and onto the path to improvement.

 

[thunderkyss]

We find ourselves at 3-4 and Kubiak will think he's being burned at the stake the heat will get so bad.

Would anyone be surprised if McNair fires Kubiak after a three game losing streak?

 

[Texecutioner]

Would anyone be surprised if McNair fires Kubiak after a three game losing streak?

Kubiak would never get fired by Mcnair in mid season. At this point though, it's hard to even gauge what it would take for Bob to ever pull the cord on Gary since a 6-10 season in year 5 didn't even do it when he was already on his 2nd DC.

 

[Carr Bombed]

When are some of you ever gonna get it through your ********* heads that Cowher is never gonna be the next head coach?

They lose, and senseless pipedreams just goes flying everywhere.

Some of you flat out don't deserve a winning football team.

WTF are you talking about with this "we don't deserve a winning football team" nonsense? How about you freaking give us one first and then we'll decide for ourselves if we deserve one or not.

I do however know something we "don't deserve" though....and that's the crap that we've consistently have had to put up with over the last decade with this team.

 

[thunderkyss]

The way the NFL is structured now, it takes three, maybe four, years to re-build a team. And if a team is REALLY bad, I'll give them a longer leash, and say four, maybe five years.

Meanwhile, we wait.

I don't know if we can truly say that. There are too many teams with a decade worth of suck that says different. The 49ers, the Lions, the Bills look good right now, but the season isn't over just yet. Those teams have been at the bottom of the NFL for decades. New Coaches, new QBs, new GMs, you name it.

Once you get to the bottom it's difficult to get back up. Changing coaches out (imo) only makes it more difficult. You have to hope the guy before you was doing the right things (Mike Singletary in San Francisco for instance). W-Ls are everything but when you're at the bottom of the league & been there for a while, you've got to change the mindsets of the organization & that's not an easy task.

I honestly have no idea how long it takes.

 

[houstonspartan]

I don't know if we can truly say that. There are too many teams with a decade worth of suck that says different. The 49ers, the Lions, the Bills look good right now, but the season isn't over just yet. Those teams have been at the bottom of the NFL for decades. New Coaches, new QBs, new GMs, you name it.

Once you get to the bottom it's difficult to get back up. Changing coaches out (imo) only makes it more difficult. You have to hope the guy before you was doing the right things (Mike Singletary in San Francisco for instance). W-Ls are everything but when you're at the bottom of the league & been there for a while, you've got to change the mindsets of the organization & that's not an easy task.

I honestly have no idea how long it takes.

Are you drunk?

 

[thunderkyss]

It's called Aggie football.....have you watched them play at all. Gary Kubiak is a "aggie man" and he coaches like one too. However the dumbest thing he did yesterday was challenge that Joel Dreessen catch.. I was begging him not to throw that flag and as soon as I saw the red flag come out, I started cursing at my T.V. Nobody pisses away timeouts better than Gary "I couldn't manage a clock if my life depended on it" Kubiak. That play had 0 chance of getting overturned and the only thing he was doing there was pissing away a crucial second half timeout....which might've cost us the game.

It sounded as if everyone in the stands wanted him to throw that flag. I can't knock him for throwing it. I have no idea what the guys in the booth, looking at the replays are telling him. At the very least, he should be tearing those guys a new A-hole this morning.

But it looked like Dressen caught the ball. Even the replays they showed at Reliant.. it looked like a catch. Dressen acted as if he caught it sure as hell. After seeing it on TV last night, I can see where you're coming from.

 

[Naiirb]

Hypothetically lets say Kubiak gets canned after the season is over and McNair dosen't hand the reigns over the Wade and hires a new coach. Does Wade stay as the DC?

 

[thunderkyss]

Are you drunk?

maybe....

 

[Texecutioner]

I don't know if we can truly say that. There are too many teams with a decade worth of suck that says different. The 49ers, the Lions, the Bills look good right now, but the season isn't over just yet. Those teams have been at the bottom of the NFL for decades. New Coaches, new QBs, new GMs, you name it.

Once you get to the bottom it's difficult to get back up. Changing coaches out (imo) only makes it more difficult. You have to hope the guy before you was doing the right things (Mike Singletary in San Francisco for instance). W-Ls are everything but when you're at the bottom of the league & been there for a while, you've got to change the mindsets of the organization & that's not an easy task.

I honestly have no idea how long it takes.

The Bills have been down for a good while because they've had a horrible owner that's been very cheap that held onto Dick Jauron for to long which is similar to what we've done with Kubes. Plus, the Bills haven't been able to find a good QB since Kelly left there and when you don't have a good QB, that makes a big difference in what your franchise can do. Ralph Wilson has been a really bad owner though.

In San Fran they've built some pretty good teams, but again their QB situation is the only thing that's held them back. The last time they had one in Garcia they made a few trips to the post season.

The Lions were awful under Matt Millen and keeping him as the GM for far to long held them back and just like these other teams they never could find that strong QB that could be consistent.

The key factor and common denominator in all of these teams situations has been a lack of a good QB and poor management. That's exactly why I'm not so quick to throw Schaub to the wind like so many others who are mad over this loss, because it could take years to find another guy that's a winner and you never know how long or how many guys you'll have to run through at the QB position to finally find that guy. The 49ers are still being held back by that right now.

 

[Carr Bombed]

It sounded as if everyone in the stands wanted him to throw that flag. I can't knock him for throwing it. I have no idea what the guys in the booth, looking at the replays are telling him. At the very least, he should be tearing those guys a new A-hole this morning.

But it looked like Dressen caught the ball. Even the replays they showed at Reliant.. it looked like a catch. Dressen acted as if he caught it sure as hell. After seeing it on TV last night, I can see where you're coming from.

There was absolutely NO reason for that flag to come out. The call on the field was a incomplete catch. In no way shape of form was there ever a angle or shot that showed any remote or conclusive evidence that would've reversed the call on the field. As the head coach he's the one with the final say and his average of success at challenging plays is only 50%. If I'm wrong half the time at my job, I get fired. The T.V. replay always show the best shots..it's their job to get the best shots up there for replay purposes. There was no other shot that looked like he cleanly caught that ball which is what it would've taken to overturn that call and if you recall they didn't say "the play stands"...they said "the play is confirmed". It was a stupid decision, but one of many that we've seen from that man.

 

[bo orlando]

& just where the heck are the Detroit Lions?

Media Darlings? Is that what you want?

They were 6-10 last season. 6 & 10...

We don't get credit for beating the Colts or Miami, but we put the Lions on a pedestal because they beat Tampa Bay (3-2), Kansas City (2-3), Minnesota (1-4), & Dallas (2-2)?

I'm not buying it. That's just haterade.

& they damn sure didn't play 4 full quarters against the Cowboys.

Lions are a young team that seem on the verge of exploding into a dominating one either this year or next. Texans have been that "it" young team before, but the long run of mediocrity has correctly geared perception toward "we'll believe it when we see it." Lions will be that way too if they put up a couple of 8-8's.

 

[thunderkyss]

The key factor and common denominator in all of these teams situations has been a lack of a good QB and poor management. That's exactly why I'm not so quick to throw Schaub to the wind like so many others who are mad over this loss, because it could take years to find another guy that's a winner and you never know how long or how many guys you'll have to run through at the QB position to finally find that guy. The 49ers are still being held back by that right now.

As difficult as it is to find a good QB, Kubiak struck gold on his second? I find that hard to believe. We lose Kubiak, I think we may as well lose Schaub. Schaub works because of Kubiak, just like Plummer & Griese.....

You put a "special" QB on this team & you'll get Elway/Montana like performance. Matt Schaub (imo) is like Gary Anderson, or even Ben Tate in Kubiak's offense. They aren't TD, Arian Foster, Clinton Portis.... if that makes any sense.

 

[Texecutioner]

As difficult as it is to find a good QB, Kubiak struck gold on his second? I find that hard to believe. We lose Kubiak, I think we may as well lose Schaub. Schaub works because of Kubiak, just like Plummer & Griese.....

You put a "special" QB on this team & you'll get Elway/Montana like performance. Matt Schaub (imo) is like Gary Anderson, or even Ben Tate in Kubiak's offense. They aren't TD, Arian Foster, Clinton Portis.... if that makes any sense.

How do we lose Schaub if he is under contract?? We don't lose Schaub at all unless another guy comes in and doesn't believe in Schaub. Most HC would come in and work with Schaub over the latter any day of the week. You guys need to get over this fear of all these things that could happen with a new coaching regime. Kubiak has never proven that he can build a winner, so at least we have seen what he can do already and what he is capable of. With a new regime they couldn't do any worse than 6-10. I'd say that chances are that we'd get an improvement.

 

[Marcus]

WTF are you talking about with this "we don't deserve a winning football team" nonsense? How about you freaking give us one first and then we'll decide for ourselves if we deserve one or not.

I do however know something we "don't deserve" though....and that's the crap that we've consistently have had to put up with over the last decade with this team.

Sorry if I hurt your little feelings, but I'm just calling it as I see it. And the way I see it, you don't deserve a winning football team if you don't really know much about how the game is played.

You're using the loss yesterday as an excuse (which, sadly, is typical) to go running off on another little Kubiak haterade campaign, just because McNair wouldn't give you what you wanted.

It doesn't matter how they lost . . . OK, I get that. Kubiak's in charge. But don't go dreaming up some cockamamie bullshit, like there was conservative playcalling, when there wasn't any, or that there were "bad" play calls when there wasn't any. But turn right around, and ignore the reasons why there was poor execution, where anyone but moron could clearly see why . . . that the Oline got manhandled up front.

But either way, either you're blind as to what really went on, or you just don't want to see, but . . .

 

[thunderkyss]

How do we lose Schaub if he is under contract?? We don't lose Schaub at all unless another guy comes in and doesn't believe in Schaub. Most HC would come in and work with Schaub over the latter any day of the week. You guys need to get over this fear of all these things that could happen with a new coaching regime. Kubiak has never proven that he can build a winner, so at least we have seen what he can do already and what he is capable of. With a new regime they couldn't do any worse than 6-10. I'd say that chances are that we'd get an improvement.

It's his system. Schaub is good in this system. Any other system out there makes him ad lib more on his own.... Matt's not going to be throwing for 4000 yards outside of this system, he's not going to have a high completion percentage or QB rating... it's the system man..

2009, I thought different. I thought he was special & made more things happen. I haven't seen that in a while. I saw a flash or two..... that seem pass to Walter out of the end zone, that big play to Dressen to get us to the 5 yard line, that pass to Casey for the TD against New Orleans.... but too far & in between.

I've got no love for Kubiak left. But that TD to the wide open Dressen.... Kubiak. The TD to Walter.... Kubiak. That OL that Ben Tate & Arian Foster takes advantage of.. Kubiak (not saying those guys aren't special.... Arian more so than Tate).. for the most part, we've got a garage sale offense that runs on Kubiak.

I'm not against trying something different right now, just saying I don't know that Schaub is what we need without Kubiak.

 

[Texecutioner]

It's his system. Schaub is good in this system. Any other system out there makes him ad lib more on his own.... Matt's not going to be throwing for 4000 yards outside of this system, he's not going to have a high completion percentage or QB rating... it's the system man..

2009, I thought different. I thought he was special & made more things happen. I haven't seen that in a while. I saw a flash or two..... that seem pass to Walter out of the end zone, that big play to Dressen to get us to the 5 yard line, that pass to Casey for the TD against New Orleans.... but too far & in between.

I've got no love for Kubiak left. But that TD to the wide open Dressen.... Kubiak. The TD to Walter.... Kubiak. That OL that Ben Tate & Arian Foster takes advantage of.. Kubiak (not saying those guys aren't special.... Arian more so than Tate).. for the most part, we've got a garage sale offense that runs on Kubiak.

I'm not against trying something different right now, just saying I don't know that Schaub is what we need without Kubiak.

I don't think that you can say that Schaub could only be successful with Kubiak. Kubiak isn't the only offensive minded coach around the league. Schaub was tossing the ball around and having success in ATL way before he ever got here. Schaub has proven that he can play, but he doesn't have any ceiling that's higher than he already has hit at this point. He needs to be on a team with a strong running game and a good defense which is what we have now. Vickers makes that play and we're sitting here at 4-1 right now and no one is bitching.

 

[Double Barrel]

WTF are you talking about with this "we don't deserve a winning football team" nonsense? How about you freaking give us one first and then we'll decide for ourselves if we deserve one or not.

I do however know something we "don't deserve" though....and that's the crap that we've consistently have had to put up with over the last decade with this team.

You just had to take the bait, didn't you?

 

[thunderkyss]

Vickers makes that play and we're sitting here at 4-1 right now and no one is bitching.

Several people have been picking on Schaub for years. Not me per se... I usually only get involved in the "is Schaub elite" threads.

But there are people out there telling you like it is.

If Schaub puts that ball in front of Vickers, we wouldn't be having this conversation, but i think we'd still be having a Schaub conversation.

 

[Texecutioner]

Several people have been picking on Schaub for years. Not me per se... I usually only get involved in the "is Schaub elite" threads.

But there are people out there telling you like it is.

If Schaub puts that ball in front of Vickers, we wouldn't be having this conversation, but i think we'd still be having a Schaub conversation.

He made the pass good enough to catch it. Hell, Schaub's passes are easy to catch because there isn't any velocity on the ball. It was a freaking lob that he dropped. It may not have been perfectly right in front of him, but it was a very catchable ball. He catches that and we end up winning that game. And like I said we'd be 4-1 right now and people are cheering and beating their chests instead of wanting Schaub released.

 

[thunderkyss]

He made the pass good enough to catch it. Hell, Schaub's passes are easy to catch because there isn't any velocity on the ball. It was a freaking lob that he dropped. It may not have been perfectly right in front of him, but it was a very catchable ball. He catches that and we end up winning that game. And like I said we'd be 4-1 right now and people are cheering and beating their chests instead of wanting Schaub released.

I disagree. Some people just don't like Schaub & we'd be talking about the wonderful job the defense did to keep us in the game.


When they shouldn't have had to.

Our "elite" offense (416 passing yards!!!) this game shouldn't have been close.

Heck, I'd have started the thread myself if I didn't see one.

 

[Marcus]

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[Ckw]

Sorry if I hurt your little feelings, but I'm just calling it as I see it. And the way I see it, you don't deserve a winning football team if you don't really know much about how the game is played.

You're using the loss yesterday as an excuse (which, sadly, is typical) to go running off on another little Kubiak haterade campaign, just because McNair wouldn't give you what you wanted.

It doesn't matter how they lost . . . OK, I get that. Kubiak's in charge. But don't go dreaming up some cockamamie bullshit, like there was conservative playcalling, when there wasn't any, or that there were "bad" play calls when there wasn't any. But turn right around, and ignore the reasons why there was poor execution, where anyone but moron could clearly see why . . . that the Oline got manhandled up front.

But either way, either you're blind as to what really went on, or you just don't want to see, but . . .

I swear there is not one poster on here as arrogant and as much of a prick as you are. Telling people they don't deserve a winning football team? Saying people don't understand football (as if you do) and don't deserve a winner because of it? If you took your mouth off Kubiak's pecker for just a minute, you'd see that the problems this franchise has been plagued with have been a problem ever since Kubiak got here. Players have changed, assistant coaches have changed, but the problems remain. What's the common denominator? Your boyfriend.

Maybe yesterday wasn't all Kubiak's fault, but there have been plenty of games that have been. And the problem we have had of choking away games in the second half is a Kubiak problem.

 

[Carr Bombed]

Sorry if I hurt your little feelings, but I'm just calling it as I see it. And the way I see it, you don't deserve a winning football team if you don't really know much about how the game is played.

You're using the loss yesterday as an excuse (which, sadly, is typical) to go running off on another little Kubiak haterade campaign, just because McNair wouldn't give you what you wanted.

It doesn't matter how they lost . . . OK, I get that. Kubiak's in charge. But don't go dreaming up some cockamamie bullshit, like there was conservative playcalling, when there wasn't any, or that there were "bad" play calls when there wasn't any. But turn right around, and ignore the reasons why there was poor execution, where anyone but moron could clearly see why . . . that the Oline got manhandled up front.

But either way, either you're blind as to what really went on, or you just don't want to see, but . . .

LMAO...

coming from someone else, normally a post like this might hurt my feelings, but when it comes from someone like you, it just makes me laugh. Which is usually what you're good for around here...just a good laugh. Mainly, because unlike what you're accusing other people of.. you not only don't have a clue of how the game is played, but you also don't have a clue of anything that you talk about. You're comcical...like our local jester or village i....

LMAO, please tell me where I ever said anything about Kubiak's "conservative playcalling" in this thread? I mean seriously, talk about "dreaming up some cockamamie bullshit". What a moron

 

[EllisUnit]

Sorry if I hurt your little feelings, but I'm just calling it as I see it. And the way I see it, you don't deserve a winning football team if you don't really know much about how the game is played.

You're using the loss yesterday as an excuse (which, sadly, is typical) to go running off on another little Kubiak haterade campaign, just because McNair wouldn't give you what you wanted.

It doesn't matter how they lost . . . OK, I get that. Kubiak's in charge. But don't go dreaming up some cockamamie bullshit, like there was conservative playcalling, when there wasn't any, or that there were "bad" play calls when there wasn't any. But turn right around, and ignore the reasons why there was poor execution, where anyone but moron could clearly see why . . . that the Oline got manhandled up front.

But either way, either you're blind as to what really went on, or you just don't want to see, but . . .

SO i guess people with cancer dont deserve to be cured if the dont know how the treatments and therapies are actually performed. Yeah that makes A LOT OF SENSE