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Kubiaks Demise.

If Vickers (the bum) catches that short pass and runs it in for a TD, then we win this game (remember the field goal later) and all of you are praising Kubiak. We played a good team without AJ, and mostly without Williams.

A LOT of you are overreacting. Yes, I know this game was very important and we could easily lose the next two, but I'm telling you now we are gonna ROLL the second half of this season. It's not Kubiak's or Schaub's fault that Jacoby Jones sucks and Vickers is a bum.

While we're all wanting Kubiak fired, let's remember that we beat Pittsburgh last week....and they just STOMPED the Titans.
 
Ckw said:
I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.
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Way to keep it classy.
 
HJam72 said:
If Vickers (the bum) catches that short pass and runs it in for a TD, then we win this game (remember the field goal later) and all of you are praising Kubiak. We played a good team without AJ, and mostly without Williams.

A LOT of you are overreacting. Yes, I know this game was very important and we could easily lose the next two, but I'm telling you now we are gonna ROLL the second half of this season. It's not Kubiak's or Schaub's fault that Jacoby Jones sucks and Vickers is a bum.

While we're all wanting Kubiak fired, let's remember that we beat Pittsburgh last week....and they just STOMPED the Titans.
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You *may* be right. All I know is that I don't think fans of ANY team have so regularly endured a very heavy dose of these heartbreaking losses and second half woes than Texans fans. For *years*. And every time we think it might be different, this happens and makes you wonder if it ever will be.
 
HJam72 said:
If Vickers (the bum) catches that short pass and runs it in for a TD, then we win this game (remember the field goal later) and all of you are praising Kubiak. We played a good team without AJ, and mostly without Williams.

A LOT of you are overreacting. Yes, I know this game was very important and we could easily lose the next two, but I'm telling you now we are gonna ROLL the second half of this season. It's not Kubiak's or Schaub's fault that Jacoby Jones sucks and Vickers is a bum.

While we're all wanting Kubiak fired, let's remember that we beat Pittsburgh last week....and they just STOMPED the Titans.
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i agree with this, i still think we are a good team and that we will end the season no worse than 11-5
 
HJam72 said:
If Vickers (the bum) catches that short pass and runs it in for a TD, then we win this game (remember the field goal later) and all of you are praising Kubiak. We played a good team without AJ, and mostly without Williams.

A LOT of you are overreacting. Yes, I know this game was very important and we could easily lose the next two, but I'm telling you now we are gonna ROLL the second half of this season. It's not Kubiak's or Schaub's fault that Jacoby Jones sucks and Vickers is a bum.
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It's directly Kubiak's fault for not getting rid of Jacoby Jones this off season or last off season and getting a viable replacement for him. THe confidence that he has instilled in this guy that has never shown consistency in his career has been mind boggling. The fact that we're still somehow having to depend on Jacoby Jones for anything other than an occasional KR still haunts us apparently. That's on Kubiak for neglecting to take care of that problem. :cutthroat:
 
HJam72 said:
It wasn't playcalling that lost this game. In fact, the short pass attempt to Vickers was genius, if the bum would just catch the ball.

Our D would be the best in the business with another GOOD CB.

Our offense's pass blocking is not as good (in the middle) as it's been getting credit for.
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The question you have to ask is "Why wouldn't you choose to run that play with Vickers, and not Casey who has hands of gold?"
 
Texecutioner said:
It's directly Kubiak's fault for not getting rid of Jacoby Jones this off season or last off season and getting a viable replacement for him. THe confidence that he has instilled in this guy that has never shown consistency in his career has been mind boggling. The fact that we're still somehow having to depend on Jacoby Jones for anything other than an occasional KR still haunts us apparently. That's on Kubiak for neglecting to take care of that problem. :cutthroat:
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This. And more! We MUST be prepared for a post AJ era. Look how bad the Colts are suffering because of not being prepared.

I'm sick of Kubiak "falling all in love with these kids". Does he really think we can't do any better than Jacoby?
 
HJam72 said:
If Vickers (the bum) catches that short pass and runs it in for a TD, then we win this game (remember the field goal later) and all of you are praising Kubiak. We played a good team without AJ, and mostly without Williams.

A LOT of you are overreacting. Yes, I know this game was very important and we could easily lose the next two, but I'm telling you now we are gonna ROLL the second half of this season. It's not Kubiak's or Schaub's fault that Jacoby Jones sucks and Vickers is a bum.

While we're all wanting Kubiak fired, let's remember that we beat Pittsburgh last week....and they just STOMPED the Titans.
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Question: Who signed Jacoby Jones to a new contract? The Contract Fairy?

Give me a f-----g break.
 
The running game wasn't there. They were kicking our O-Lines butts the whole game.

Honestly, I think Kubiak and/or our OC called an excellent game. If Vickers could catch or J. Jones didn't suck, we'd be praising the offensive play-calling.

Besides that, where's the blame for Jason Allen? How many 15 yard out-patterns are you gonna give up? How 'bout just giving up a long TD because you're tired of it? When are we gonna get two starting CBs instead of none or (now) one and a bunch of miscreants?
 
Texecutioner said:
It's directly Kubiak's fault for not getting rid of Jacoby Jones this off season or last off season and getting a viable replacement for him. THe confidence that he has instilled in this guy that has never shown consistency in his career has been mind boggling. The fact that we're still somehow having to depend on Jacoby Jones for anything other than an occasional KR still haunts us apparently. That's on Kubiak for neglecting to take care of that problem. :cutthroat:
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Agree completely.

Jacoby Jones is a joke of an NFL player. The fact that this bum is making millions while 10% of Americans can't find a job is infuriating. Same can be said for Gary. I despise both of these losers.
 
Kimmy said:
This. And more! We MUST be prepared for a post AJ era. Look how bad the Colts are suffering because of not being prepared.

I'm sick of Kubiak "falling all in love with these kids". Does he really think we can't do any better than Jacoby?
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Good post as well.

Kubiak needs to get his ass over to college football if he wants to fall in love with his "kids" and become an honorary father. These guys are grown men, and this is a business. Kubiak, you aren't their daddy, and they aren't your kids.

Man, I hate this guy...
 
There is nothing wrong with Kubiaks playcalling. He exploited the only area's we had an advantage in. te's and rb's out of the backfield.

His problems is that he let the defense be coached by idiots for 5 years and spent draft after draft and offseason after offseason spending all of our picks trying to upgrade a crappy defense while overlooking his offense because he feels he can move the ball with ave talent on offense. Now we get our big guy injured and anytime we play a team with a big physical line we have problems. Now he is out of chances, lets see what happens.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Playcalling was a massive, frustrating issue with coaching today. Horrible play by the players, however, is not. I don't buy it. The players have executed before, but not today. It happens.
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Look, this is all on Gary.

He's the one who is in charge of not only the offense. He's in charge of the whole team. He is the one who handpicked the players that are not executing on offense.

He's right after 6 yrs of fail, this is all on him.
 
steelbtexan said:
Look, this is all on Gary.

He's the one who is in charge of not only the offense. He's in charge of the whole team. He is the one who handpicked the players that are not executing on offense.

He's right after 6 yrs of fail, this is all on him.
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So was it his fault when we executed in three wins this year? I'm not absolving him of blame. His playcalling was terrible today. But it was a shortened playbook, since the best WR in football was out. I know, I know, it's Kubiak's and management's fault for no offensive depth.
 
utahmark said:
There is nothing wrong with Kubiaks playcalling. He exploited the only area's we had an advantage in. te's and rb's out of the backfield.

His problems is that he let the defense be coached by idiots for 5 years and spent draft after draft and offseason after offseason spending all of our picks trying to upgrade a crappy defense while overlooking his offense because he feels he can move the ball with ave talent on offense. Now we get our big guy injured and anytime we play a team with a big physical line we have problems. Now he is out of chances, lets see what happens.
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There is something wrong with playcalling when you consistently can't score in the 2nd half and can never seem to put your foot on the gas and beat a team into the ground.

There is also something wrong with playcalling when in the 1st quarter, we were moving the ball efficiently and effectively by constantly getting the ball to OD, then suddenly we move away from him. I saw him on more than few occasions open, but we just flat out quit designing the offense around him when he and Foster were the only two guys on offense making plays.

Finally, there is something wrong with playcalling when you aren't getting the ball to one of your best mismatches in James Casey. The guy should have exploded today, yet we did nothing to try and get him the ball. He wasn't even a factor out there. We saw what he could do in the Saints game when we had him running the ball, blocking, going out wide, and just moving him all over the place. We seemed to do none of that today.

I strongly believe Kubiak's biggest problem is arrogance. I think the guy truly sees himself as an offensive genius that can't be stopped and is the best at what he does. I believe he thinks he can just run any play he wants to and because he was the one that designed it, it will work. Instead of going with what has been proven to work, much like Sean Payton does, and continue being aggressive, Kubiak likes to get cute.

But I'm also a little biased as I have gotten to the point that I despise Kubiak. I want us in the playoffs more than I want him fired but at the same time, I don't believe we will ever win it all with Kubiak at the helm.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
So was it his fault when we executed in three wins this year? I'm not absolving him of blame. His playcalling was terrible today. But it was a shortened playbook, since the best WR in football was out. I know, I know, it's Kubiak's and management's fault for no offensive depth.
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Man, come on. Stop trumpeting wins against the Dolphins and Colts as some quality victory. Our talent so far exceeds both of those teams that with or without Kubiak, both of those games should have been, and were, victories. No, I don't give him credit for those two games.

The Steelers game was a quality win. But when you have as few quality wins as Kubiak has and hardly any games in which your team put together 4 quality quarters of football, then you simply aren't a good coach.
 
Ckw said:
Man, come on. Stop trumpeting wins against the Dolphins and Colts as some quality victory. Our talent so far exceeds both of those teams that with or without Kubiak, both of those games should have been, and were, victories. No, I don't give him credit for those two games.

The Steelers game was a quality win. But when you have as few quality wins as Kubiak has and hardly any games in which your team put together 4 quality quarters of football, then you simply aren't a good coach.
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Wins are wins, I don't give a ****.

But you hate Kubiak and you won't rest until he's gone. I don't care much for him either but your mind is completely made up, so it's worthless to even talk to you about it.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
So was it his fault when we executed in three wins this year? I'm not absolving him of blame. His playcalling was terrible today. But it was a shortened playbook, since the best WR in football was out. I know, I know, it's Kubiak's and management's fault for no offensive depth.
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It's not all on Kubes, of course not -- but I think almost anyone can see that this "shortened playbook" is something the Texans under Kubiak have almost always done going into the second half with a lead, year in and year out -- even with a healthy AJ in the game.

If you have to have AJ in the game in order to be imaginative and unpredictable in the play calling, I think it's pretty sad. Yes, the loss of AJ makes it harder for the rest of the team (I sure wish he was in on the last play -- I'll bet a TE or RB has a MUCH better chance of working open with the defense keying on AJ) -- but I still think the team played into its usual tendencies, with *or* without AJ on the field. Just a few extra blown-up plays because the defense predicted it can make the difference in such a close game.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
So was it his fault when we executed in three wins this year? I'm not absolving him of blame. His playcalling was terrible today. But it was a shortened playbook, since the best WR in football was out. I know, I know, it's Kubiak's and management's fault for no offensive depth.
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Is it not?

He's the one who's put this team together.
 
houstonspartan said:
I was just telling someone the other day that Texans fans, for some reason, seem to settle on stats instead of wins. It's our wall that we have hidden behind.
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Yep. It's the moral victory excuse that losers make. And as much as I blame Kubiak and Schaub, McNair is a loser always reaching for a moral victory after every unsuccessful season (every one to this point). Cultures of failure are created at the top.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
Wins are wins, I don't give a ****.

But you hate Kubiak and you won't rest until he's gone. I don't care much for him either but your mind is completely made up, so it's worthless to even talk to you about it.
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You sure seem to know me well for someone that I've never even met.

Actually, I did exactly what I have done every year and had high hopes for Gary to begin the season. I felt like maybe we could get by with basically having a coordinator at head coach since we had another elite coordinator coaching the defense.

Where my hatred has started to build up once again is that the same problem still exists: we are a team that can't play 4 good quarters of football. We always suck it up in one half or another. Lately, it has been the second half that has been our doom. A few years ago, it was the first half.

Sure, a win is a win. But just like I was concerned in the Miami game about the red zone issues even though we won, I am concerned about our inability to play 4 quarters of football. The red zone issues bit us in the ass against New Orleans. Our suckitude in the second half bit us in the ass today against the Raiders.

I want the team to be better than they have ever been. I want us to be a contender. I expect us to get to a place where we can compete, and beat, the Packers, Saints, and Patriots of the world. But it won't happen (or at least it won't happen consistently) if we don't exorcise some of these demons we have namely our red zone woes (which aren't quite as bad with Arian back) and our piss poor second half performances.

But yeah, it is probably worthless for us to talk about it.
 
Ckw said:
I long for the day we finally fire this piece of ****. I have never wanted to see someone lose their job so bad in my entire life. Offensive genius my ass.

Kubiak is a fraud that got his name because of Mike Shanahan, Steve Young, and John Elway. Without those guys, Kubiak would be a nobody.
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Preach, brother.

But McNair doesn't care...he'll just blame it on AJ being hurt or some other such BS to retain this guy.
 
Ckw said:
You sure seem to know me well for someone that I've never even met.

Actually, I did exactly what I have done every year and had high hopes for Gary to begin the season. I felt like maybe we could get by with basically having a coordinator at head coach since we had another elite coordinator coaching the defense.

Where my hatred has started to build up once again is that the same problem still exists: we are a team that can't play 4 good quarters of football. We always suck it up in one half or another. Lately, it has been the second half that has been our doom. A few years ago, it was the first half.

Sure, a win is a win. But just like I was concerned in the Miami game about the red zone issues even though we won, I am concerned about our inability to play 4 quarters of football. The red zone issues bit us in the ass against New Orleans. Our suckitude in the second half bit us in the ass today against the Raiders.

I want the team to be better than they have ever been. I want us to be a contender. I expect us to get to a place where we can compete, and beat, the Packers, Saints, and Patriots of the world. But it won't happen (or at least it won't happen consistently) if we don't exorcise some of these demons we have namely our red zone woes (which aren't quite as bad with Arian back) and our piss poor second half performances.

But yeah, it is probably worthless for us to talk about it.
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you cant blame him for the losses and give him no credit for the wins, it dont work that way home boy.
 
EllisUnit said:
you cant blame him for the losses and give him no credit for the wins, it dont work that way home boy.
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He hasn't had a lot of wins to give him credit for though. That's why he is complaining to the degree that he is. We've never had a winning season other than that half ass 9-7 one where the Pats took a lot of their starters out and Brady came out of the game on their last drive. Just a lot of poor football mixed in with some mediocre football.

I'm not sweating things to much for the time being though personally. We're stuck with Kubiak this season either way, and I think we make the playoffs because our division is **** this year. The downfall of that though is that Kubiak will see an extension because of that and I fear that happening the most.
 
Texecutioner said:
He hasn't had a lot of wins to give him credit for though. That's why he is complaining to the degree that he is. We've never had a winning season other than that half ass 9-7 one where the Pats took a lot of their starters out and Brady came out of the game on their last drive. Just a lot of poor football mixed in with some mediocre football.

I'm not sweating things to much for the time being though personally. We're stuck with Kubiak this season either way, and I think we make the playoffs because our division is **** this year. The downfall of that though is that Kubiak will see an extension because of that and I fear that happening the most.
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well 40-45 he has about just as many wins as losses so. I think we have a solid team, we do need to get another GOOD WR though, our offense is built around and for AJ, when he goes out we have noone to step up and take his spot. We need to address that but as far as overall talent goes i think we are up there.
 
EllisUnit said:
well 40-45 he has about just as many wins as losses so. I think we have a solid team, we do need to get another GOOD WR though, our offense is built around and for AJ, when he goes out we have noone to step up and take his spot. We need to address that but as far as overall talent goes i think we are up there.
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So, in other words, let's give Kubiak another pass for this season with the stipulation that we get another WR?
 
In all seriousness, can someone explain to me how Detroit was able to go from 0-16 a few years ago to where they are now, and we're still struggling after more than half a decade of the same staff?

I'm serious. I'm lost here.
 
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"Here you go Gary, run her into the ground!"
 
houstonspartan said:
In all seriousness, can someone explain to me how Detroit was able to go from 0-16 a few years ago to where they are now, and we're still struggling after more than half a decade of the same staff?

I'm serious. I'm lost here.
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Stafford has been healthy all season, i guess he is that good. plus they have a pretty good defense.
 
cdollaz said:
If the fact that he is 40-45 is an argument FOR him, then that's pretty sad.
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its not an argument for him, but someone said he dont have many wins to account for i just pointed out he has about as many wins as losses. not making it sound like he is the most winningest coach in the nfl
 
EllisUnit said:
its not an argument for him, but someone said he dont have many wins to account for i just pointed out he has about as many wins as losses. not making it sound like he is the most winningest coach in the nfl
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just most mediocre.
 
Chicken littles friends called. They want their reaction back. The ol got handed their ASAP over and over

Mike
 
I am done calling for anyone to go it just does not do any good to beat a broken bush.
 
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