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Training Camp Practice Updates - 2011

Shaft75 said:
I'm not trying to impress dude, but I know my football, played it in high school and college, I'm diehard for the Texans and watch pretty much all the NFL and college games I can find the time for. Trust me, with twin 8 month olds it going to be super hard for me this year. I have a say, just like anyone else on this board. And I'd venture to say that defending Jacoby for some critical drops will draw a little criticism.

I'm repping you for the Koolaid John. that was a masterclass!
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Derrick Ward dropped a pass in camp, too. Would have been a TD.

Video link HERE.

I'm not sayin'....I'm just sayin'....everybody does it.

Thank you for the rep on the Kool Aid John, by the way. And my shot at you about how I was not impressed by your front row tickets--I was joking and wanted to make sure you knew that, but can see how it might have come off wrong to you. My bad.

Georges St. Pierre, the MMA fighter, walked up to his upcoming opponent and declared to his face "I am not impressed by your per-form-ance" (in my best French Canadian accent). That was a bit of a reference that I guess was only funny to me. LOL.

EDIT: Now that I saw your rep comments, I'm calling MAJOR BULLSHIT that you've dated a couple of Texans cheerleaders! If you have, however, then I am damn sure impressed with that. LOL.
 
Rey said:
I also read somewhere that the defense lined up in a passing situation with only two down linemen.

The versatility that we should have on defense is going to be an awesome sight to see.
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That's how Green Bay did it... they took the DT off the field, left a pass rushing LB (Matthews & that other guy) & added a CB.

Capers is a genius if you ask me. Most situations like that, DCs take a LB off the field & replace him with a DB... kills their pass rush,
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
Does anybody know how players are faring around the league? I'd be interested if there's a lot of hamstring issues this year.
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I'm thinking that the ones not out there practicing in the 99 degree weather are doing better . I would think that there's no way to stay hydrated unless your getting an IV between plays . This along with exploding through a hole is a recipe for a pulled hamstring .
 
From Kuharsky at today's practice... man, I hope they really do consider Allen being the #2 Corner..


3) Schaub found Kevin Walter with a bomb up the right side that fell incomplete only because Kareem Jackson had a handful of Walter’s jersey to prevent him from catching up to it. Jackson made no real effort to hide the foul or recover from it.
 
hobie said:
From Kuharsky at today's practice... man, I hope they really do consider Allen being the #2 Corner..


3) Schaub found Kevin Walter with a bomb up the right side that fell incomplete only because Kareem Jackson had a handful of Walter’s jersey to prevent him from catching up to it. Jackson made no real effort to hide the foul or recover from it.
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According to a chron's article, the CBs getting a chance to compete* in the Phillips coached defense, regardless of draft slot.

Texans coach Gary Kubiak caught a lot of reporters off guard this week when he disclosed that cornerback Jason Allen is pushing Kareem Jackson for a starting job.

Allen, 28, is off to a terrific start in his first training camp with the Texans, who signed him Nov. 10 after Miami waived the defensive back.

"There's absolutely no doubt," Kubiak said when asked if Allen could win the starting job. "He's done a heck of a job, and we're going to play our two best guys."

Johnathan Joseph just got $23.5 million guaranteed, so he's ticketed for one starting spot. Jackson, who started 16 games as a rookie but didn't play as well as the coaches hoped he would, is the other starter.

For now. When Jackson looks over his shoulder, he should see Allen gaining on him.
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I made a post about this before TC started, before we even signed JoJo, that it might likely be Allen and whatever top FA CB we landed starting in week 1, and K-Jack being relegated to 4th CB (behind the "ideal" nickleback, Brandon Harris).

I was hoping that Kareem would prove us wrong and actually step up to the plate as a competent starting CB. But obviously Allen is showing enough in TC, as is Kareem.. sadly, to conclude who belongs where in the depth chart.

However, we'll see if everything displayed in TC is translated over in a pre-season game.
 
Toan said:
Oh wait, re-read. Ok, you like watching game tapes on the draftees and forming your own judgements base on it. That actually is a notable thing to do. So kudos on that.

But, I'm much too lazy to download all the games of Watt/Reed/Harris and would much rather have someone credible do the work for me; which is why Lance Z, Scott Wright, Mel, etc. are my hero when it comes to draft time.
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So basically you just parrot the work of others and have no real opinion on this subject?

:kitten:

J/K....it's all good.
 
I just watched the little 1 on 1 video with Brandon Harris. He seems like a cool dude. Well spoken and seems like he tells it like it is.

Not really news worthy, but I just wanted to pass it along.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I just watched the little 1 on 1 video with Brandon Harris. He seems like a cool dude. Well spoken and seems like he tells it like it is.

Not really news worthy, but I just wanted to pass it along.
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Yeah, I liked that too, I hope the dude becomes a real player for this team.
 
Am I correct in this? If a player gets injured in training camp we have to keep them and their money for the year?

If so, we have a LOT of people that will be very well paid bench warmers!
 
What's Glover Quin playing, FS or SS?

I thought we moved him to FS, but the chron.com keep saying that he is a SS.

And how's Mario doing at OLB?
 
SteveSlaton20 said:
What's Glover Quin playing, FS or SS?

I thought we moved him to FS, but the chron.com keep saying that he is a SS.

And how's Mario doing at OLB?
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He's at strong, at least that's what he said. The Safeties in Wade's system line up and operate the same way though, so it doesn't really matter most of the time.
 
edo783 said:
Yup, we are suffering from a sever hammy whammy.
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ND Kalu was saying that a tweak in hamstring is not really a problem and that if it was the season they would play . He said that players on the bubble probably have tweaks to but can't sit and 100 degrees outside = a tweak to rest .
 
This morning on 610, ND Kalu was playing down the hamstring "tweaks" saying that in the regular season they would be out there playing. But they are being "careful" now. I have to say that if they were thrown back into the ring without the proper rest/rehab period with even "minor" hamstring issues, they would likely re-injure and create a more serious and a potentially more chronic problem with non-optional longer periods of rehab. With a hamstring injury of any level, no therapy will substitute an adequate period of rest appropriate to the degree of injury.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This morning on 610, ND Kalu was playing down the hamstring "tweaks" saying that in the regular season they would be out there playing. But they are being "careful" now. I have to say that if they were thrown back into the ring without the proper rest/rehab period with even "minor" hamstring issues, they would likely re-injure and create a more serious and a potentially more chronic problem with non-optional longer periods of rehab. With a hamstring injury of any level, no therapy will substitute an adequate period of rest appropriate to the degree of injury.
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Reminds me of the scene in North Dallas Forty when they gave the fast guy ( Bob Hayes )a shot in the hammy .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Reminds me of the scene in North Dallas Forty when they gave the fast guy ( Bob Hayes )a shot in the hammy .
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Yeah, but I believe it was Tommy Reamon (a real ex-NFL RB) that played the movie WR Delma Huddle who got shot up and who went on to rupture his hamstring near the end of the game. That's what happens when pain isn't allowed to feed back to your body.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Yeah, but I believe it was Tommy Reamon (a real ex-NFL RB) that played the movie WR Delma Huddle who got shot up and who went on to rupture his hamstring near the end of the game. That's what happens when pain isn't allowed to feed back to your body.
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The guy who wrote it was Pete Gent . He played on the Cowboys and the urban legend was the characters were the same but the names changed in the movie .

The funny thing that I read was former players saying Pete wasn't nearly good as he portayed himself .
 
Great day at practice. I was brought into the VIP area and Bob McNair came over to me. He asked me for my prediction and I said 11-5. He said what can we do about the 5 games. I said forget the 11&5. 19&0. He got hysterical. Neil Rackers gave me his football and I had an in depth conversation with Spencer Tillman from channel 13 about the three four defense and Wade Phillips. Tillman shared his thoughts about how he has been listening to player and coach communication and also how the players comprehend the new scheme as well as the new language. Spencer told me that it is about much more than just putting pressure on the QB. We spoke a little bit about JJ Watt and what he brings to the team and the new system. He really likes Mr. Watt and I happen to like Spencer even though some of you don't but I must say he is very honest about the Texans and has a lot to say. I called his name as he was passing by in the V.I.P. area and he turned around and came right over to me then we stated chatting away like we have known each other for years so I admire him for taking all that time to chat with me. All and all I had a great time and I'll try to upload some photos to this thread depending on how they turned out when I see them.
 
gary said:
Great day at practice. I was brought into the VIP area and Bob McNair came over to me. He asked me for my prediction and I said 11-5. He said what can we do about the 5 games. I said forget the 11&5. 19&0. He got hysterical. Neil Rackers gave me his football and I had an in depth conversation with Spencer Tillman from channel 13 about the three four defense and Wade Phillips. Tillman shared his thoughts about how he has been listening to player and coach communication and also how the players comprehend the new scheme as well as the new language. Spencer told me that it is about much more than just putting pressure on the QB. We spoke a little bit about JJ Watt and what he brings to the team and the new system. He really likes Mr. Watt and I happen to like Spencer even though some of you don't but I must say he is very honest about the Texans and has a lot to say. I called his name as he was passing by in the V.I.P. area and he turned around and came right over to me then we stated chatting away like we have known each other for years so I admire him for taking all that time to chat with me. All and all I had a great time and I'll try to upload some photos to this thread depending on how they turned out when I see them.
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Wow! I'm jealous again, bro. Very nice!

I admit, I don't like Tillman's commentating during preseason. That said, he sounds like a pretty cool dude to take the time to talk football with a fan.
 
gary said:
Great day at practice. I was brought into the VIP area and Bob McNair came over to me. He asked me for my prediction and I said 11-5. He said what can we do about the 5 games. I said forget the 11&5. 19&0. He got hysterical. Neil Rackers gave me his football and I had an in depth conversation with Spencer Tillman from channel 13 about the three four defense and Wade Phillips. Tillman shared his thoughts about how he has been listening to player and coach communication and also how the players comprehend the new scheme as well as the new language. Spencer told me that it is about much more than just putting pressure on the QB. We spoke a little bit about JJ Watt and what he brings to the team and the new system. He really likes Mr. Watt and I happen to like Spencer even though some of you don't but I must say he is very honest about the Texans and has a lot to say. I called his name as he was passing by in the V.I.P. area and he turned around and came right over to me then we stated chatting away like we have known each other for years so I admire him for taking all that time to chat with me. All and all I had a great time and I'll try to upload some photos to this thread depending on how they turned out when I see them.
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Did he talk about JJ Watt in his Rodney Dangerfield voice ?
 
gary said:
Great day at practice. I was brought into the VIP area and Bob McNair came over to me. He asked me for my prediction and I said 11-5. He said what can we do about the 5 games. I said forget the 11&5. 19&0. He got hysterical. Neil Rackers gave me his football and I had an in depth conversation with Spencer Tillman from channel 13 about the three four defense and Wade Phillips. Tillman shared his thoughts about how he has been listening to player and coach communication and also how the players comprehend the new scheme as well as the new language. Spencer told me that it is about much more than just putting pressure on the QB. We spoke a little bit about JJ Watt and what he brings to the team and the new system. He really likes Mr. Watt and I happen to like Spencer even though some of you don't but I must say he is very honest about the Texans and has a lot to say. I called his name as he was passing by in the V.I.P. area and he turned around and came right over to me then we stated chatting away like we have known each other for years so I admire him for taking all that time to chat with me. All and all I had a great time and I'll try to upload some photos to this thread depending on how they turned out when I see them.
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Cool story, it's nice to hear that the people up top seem to be genuinely good people. I can imagine a few answers that people would've come up with here when Bob McNair asked what they could do about the 5 losses.
 
Here is me with Neil Rackers.
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Gary, you should have told Mr. McNair that if Smith & Kubiak don't work out you & I could take over by next game.
 
All our players need to take some DANCE classes!!! First thing you learn is to STRETCH before practice or performing!! The # of "hammy" injuries is alarming to me, and I don't think the 100 degree weather is the main problem either. Maybe a contributor, but not the reason. Keeping their legs in shape should have been a #1 priority during the holdout!! JMO!!

Do you guys remember the time when some of the Oilers took dance classes? There were some pretty funny pics out there during that time.
 
gary said:
Great day at practice. I was brought into the VIP area and Bob McNair came over to me. He asked me for my prediction and I said 11-5. He said what can we do about the 5 games. I said forget the 11&5. 19&0. He got hysterical. Neil Rackers gave me his football and I had an in depth conversation with Spencer Tillman from channel 13 about the three four defense and Wade Phillips. Tillman shared his thoughts about how he has been listening to player and coach communication and also how the players comprehend the new scheme as well as the new language. Spencer told me that it is about much more than just putting pressure on the QB. We spoke a little bit about JJ Watt and what he brings to the team and the new system. He really likes Mr. Watt and I happen to like Spencer even though some of you don't but I must say he is very honest about the Texans and has a lot to say. I called his name as he was passing by in the V.I.P. area and he turned around and came right over to me then we stated chatting away like we have known each other for years so I admire him for taking all that time to chat with me. All and all I had a great time and I'll try to upload some photos to this thread depending on how they turned out when I see them.
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Cool, ya hob-nobbin with the owner and other elites and and then come back and report to us commeners. :D

Great experience, I'm sure.
 
SheTexan said:
All our players need to take some DANCE classes!!! First thing you learn is to STRETCH before practice or performing!! The # of "hammy" injuries is alarming to me, and I don't think the 100 degree weather is the main problem either. Maybe a contributor, but not the reason. Keeping their legs in shape should have been a #1 priority during the holdout!! JMO!!

Do you guys remember the time when some of the Oilers took dance classes? There were some pretty funny pics out there during that time.
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Pretty sure Cushing got a few defensive players into the much manlier MMA classes. I think most of the hammy stuff is a tad overblown and people are worrying needlessly. I know the Texans PR department doesn't meet doc's standards of reporting injuries but I find it hard to believe that 3 of our top RB's have season ending hamstring injuries the first week of training camp.

As these guys acclimate back to going to work for the season, you'll see this stuff calm down.
 
I did see Kareem Jackson break up a pass for Jacoby Jones. As well as Rackers shank a field goal to the right.
 
JoJo reported now to have a "groin" tweak/injury. Kubiak essentially stated that the secondary sucked today without him in there........VERY ENCOURAGING!:wadepalm:
 
badboy said:
Gary, you should have told Mr. McNair that if Smith & Kubiak don't work out you & I could take over by next game.
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I will probably see him again tomorrow and ask him for another picture sense the one today did not come out but I have met him before today so I do have another photo with Bob. Anyway, I'll put in the word when I see him tomorrow. I am good friends with the head of security for the Texans as well as Lance who works for the Texans. Very nice people too.
 
I'm a little late to the party. Does anyone want to give me a cliff notes version of what I need to know? :)
 
SheTexan said:
All our players need to take some DANCE classes!!! First thing you learn is to STRETCH before practice or performing!! The # of "hammy" injuries is alarming to me, and I don't think the 100 degree weather is the main problem either. Maybe a contributor, but not the reason. Keeping their legs in shape should have been a #1 priority during the holdout!! JMO!!

Do you guys remember the time when some of the Oilers took dance classes? There were some pretty funny pics out there during that time.
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The key is to stretch BEFORE sustaining a hamstring injury. The problem I've seen with players is that once they sustain the injury, they try to stretch it out and extend the tear, when they should allow the muscle to SHORTEN and REST until the acute injury is overcome.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The key is to stretch BEFORE sustaining a hamstring injury. The problem I've seen with players is that once they sustain the injury, they try to stretch it out and extend the tear, when they should allow the muscle to SHORTEN and REST until the acute injury is overcome.
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To be honest, I think I've done that myself once or twice.
 
VTexan said:
I'm a little late to the party. Does anyone want to give me a cliff notes version of what I need to know? :)
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Wow. That's tough. I'll try but I'm going to leave something out.

OFFENSE:

Schaub and AJ, good. Scare with AJ dislocating finger but he's OK.
Foster, Tate, Slaton: All have looked good but all have hurt hammies.
Ward, Ogbonnaya, Williams: Have looked good taking up the slack.
WR: Dickerson has improved. Lots of good UDFAs. Going to be a good corps of WRs, difficult cuts.
OL: Winston having problems in pass pro against Watt.

DEFENSE:

DL: Watt is a monster, better than expected. Antonio Smith loves the new defense, which was a worry. Earl Mitchell actually looking good at NT although could be because of the ZBS of the offense. Worries about DL Depth.

OLB: Mario looks inconsistent and huge. Barwin playing well. Reed looks good but smaller than our other OLBs. Nading, hmmm... maybe.

ILB: Needed experienced depth, got Dobbins, could be good but not good at coverage. Ryans making good reads, questions about his speed coming back from injury. Cushng looking lighter and out of shape from knee surgery but getting better. Sharpton has looked good. I think Mister Alexander has also looked good as an UDFA.

DB: JoJo easily our best CB and heart of our secondary. He tweaked his groin and sat out today and the secondary suffered. Manning looking good. GQ also making the switch better than expected. Rooks look good, Harris probably playing nickle but Carmichael separated shoulder. KJ has been making improvement but has been getting schooled. Allen pushing for CB2 spot. McMannis also playing pretty well.

P: Signed Maynard from Bears and UDFA Hartmann. If Hartmann can get consistent, the job is probably his.

I think that's the gist of the TC so far.

:fans:
 
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