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rmartin65

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Ok, this lockout is killing me. Normally we are getting information about rookie free agent signings, drafted rookie signings, free agents, and camps. Now? Nothing.

To break up the monotony, I have been scouting the 2012 draft. I hope to post top 10 draft eligible prospects, along with a small school sleeper, at each position. It should also be noted that I am projecting positions from the Texans' 3-4 point of view, meaning that certain DEs may be listed as OLBs, some OLBs may be listed as ILBs, etc. Please feel free to rip up my lists, as well as post your own. This early in the game I definitely dont have enough information to make perfect lists, but my intent here is to stir up some discussion. Underclassmen denoted with an asterisk.

My first position will be ILB, and will be posted in the post below.
 
ILB
ILB has quickly become a position of need for the Texans. Ryans is coming off a gruesome injury, Cushing has never truly played the position, and the backups of Sharpton, Bentley, Adibi, and Keglar (who?) have been unimpressive. Luckily, the 2012 draft has a bevy of talent at the position.

1)* Luke Kuechly, Boston College, 6’2” 235 lbs
2) Travis Lewis, Oklahoma, 6’2” 232 lbs
3) Courtney Upshaw, Alabama, 6’2” 265 lbs
4) *Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State, 6’3” 245 lbs
5) *Don’ta Hightower, Alabama, 6’4” 258 lbs
6) Tank Carder, TCU, 6’2” 237 lbs
7) *Manti Te’o, Notre Dame, 6’2” 245 lbs
8) Korey Williams, Southern Mississippi, 6’2” 243 lbs
9) Jerry Franklin, Arkansas, 6’1” 245 lbs
10) Chris Galippo, USC, 6’2” 250 lbs
SSS) Milton Brown, Campbell, 6’1” 225 lbs
 
rmartin65 said:
ILB
1)* Luke Kuechly, Boston College, 6’2” 235 lbs
2) Travis Lewis, Oklahoma, 6’2” 232 lbs
3) Courtney Upshaw, Alabama, 6’2” 265 lbs
4) *Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State, 6’3” 245 lbs
5) *Don’ta Hightower, Alabama, 6’4” 258 lbs
6) Tank Carder, TCU, 6’2” 237 lbs
7) *Manti Te’o, Notre Dame, 6’2” 245 lbs
8) Korey Williams, Southern Mississippi, 6’2” 243 lbs
9) Jerry Franklin, Arkansas, 6’1” 245 lbs
10) Chris Galippo, USC, 6’2” 250 lbs
SSS) Milton Brown, Campbell, 6’1” 225 lbs
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I saw Tank play at the Rose Bowl, and this guy is an absolute BEAST!
 
65, thanks again for doing this. Not only is it helpful info, but gives me something to do besides feeding the squirrels. I like Tank but will be watching the Alabama boys. Also want to see how Texas does with their LB corps this season.

I was very disappointed in Bentley when Ryans went out. I'll give Sharpton another season before voicing too much. I was hoping for Sam Acho whom I could see at the Mike. He is very intelligent also.
 
An inside linebacker to look for is Florida State OLB Nigel Bradham. He's 6'2 240 and he's built like a rock. He's athletic enough to play sideline to sideline, and more than tough enough to take on offensive lineman.

Here is a film review of his game against North Carolina last season. This was maybe the biggest game of the year for the 2010 Florida State football team. It was a very close matchup, and Bradham makes big plays/hits throughout. Be conscious of the time and the situation of the plays, especially toward the end of the video.

You'll also get a little bit of a look at the way Yates ran some play action and how the North Carolina offense looks pre-snap. Some people may find that interesting now that they have learned that North Carolina runs the same offensive scheme that we do and obviously because we have Yates now.

If you ever wondered what happened to Ryan Perrilloux, this hit by Nigel was the last time I ever saw him on TV.
 
Players I will focus on this season: Winston Guy Kentucky SS/FS 6'1" 210 4.46 but has run a 4.39. Can play corner. 2010: 106 tackles 3 INTs.

Jayron Hosely Virginia Tech CB/KR 5'10" 172 4.42 2010: 9 INTs
Coryell Studie Texas A&M CB/KR 5'11" 188 4.42 but has run 4.32. Known as a "locked down" corner, I see him exploding up the boards as season progresses as did Kyle Wilson and Owusu that was drafted by Dallas. I really like this kid.
 
QB
1) *Andrew Luck, Stanford
2) *Landry Jones, Oklahoma
3) *Matt Barkley, USC
4) Ryan Lindley, San Diego State
5) Nick Foles, Arizona
6)* Robert Griffin, Baylor
7) Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
8) Kirk Cousins, Michigan State
9) Kellen Moore, Boise State
10) G.J Kinne, Tulsa
SSS) Jake Mullin, McMurray University
 
rmartin65 said:
QB
1) *Andrew Luck, Stanford
2) *Landry Jones, Oklahoma
3) *Matt Barkley, USC
4) Ryan Lindley, San Diego State
5) Nick Foles, Arizona
6)* Robert Griffin, Baylor
7) Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
8) Kirk Cousins, Michigan State
9) Kellen Moore, Boise State
10) G.J Kinne, Tulsa
SSS) Jake Mullin, McMurray University
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65 he is ALIVE! Welcome back to MB! I'm interested in Kellen Moore where do you have him slotted?
 
badboy said:
65 he is ALIVE! Welcome back to MB! I'm interested in Kellen Moore where do you have him slotted?
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Yeah, school has been picking up a bit towards the end of the quarter. I have been lurking the last couple of days.

I really like Moore. So much so, that if I were GM of a team looking for a guy to groom behind someone, Moore would be worth a 3rd. The kid is a gamer. Smart, great arm, a natural leader. Only his size is holding him back.
 
rmartin65 said:
Yeah, school has been picking up a bit towards the end of the quarter. I have been lurking the last couple of days.

I really like Moore. So much so, that if I were GM of a team looking for a guy to groom behind someone, Moore would be worth a 3rd. The kid is a gamer. Smart, great arm, a natural leader. Only his size is holding him back.
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Yeah, when I began watching him last season I had heard a lot of negative things especially his height. All he looked like was a successful QB and he pulled a lot of negative plays out with his smarts and arm. Seems to have very good field awareness. He can play on my team any time.
 
WR
1) Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
2) *Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
3) *Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
4) Jeff Fuller, Texas A&M
5) Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
6) Juron Criner, Arizona
7) Marquis Maze, Alabama
8) *Mohamed Samu, Rutgers
9) Dwight Jones, North Carolina
10) Greg Childs, Arkansas
SSS) Darnell Williams, Louisiana College
 
rmartin65 said:
WR
1) Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
2) *Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
3) *Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
4) Jeff Fuller, Texas A&M
5) Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
6) Juron Criner, Arizona
7) Marquis Maze, Alabama
8) *Mohamed Samu, Rutgers
9) Dwight Jones, North Carolina
10) Greg Childs, Arkansas
SSS) Darnell Williams, Louisiana College
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I like Broyles more than Jeffery and Fuller. There are going to be alot of good receivers in next year's draft. Jones and Childs at #9 and #10 are studs.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I like Broyles more than Jeffery and Fuller. There are going to be alot of good receivers in next year's draft. Jones and Childs at #9 and #10 are studs.
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I do too, but I think that Jeffery and Fuller go ahead of Broyles. Like I mentioned in another thread, Broyles is unimpressive from a side/speed viewpoint. Teams will fall in love with Jeffery and Fuller because they have that size and athleticism.
 
65.....When are we going to start talking about small school guys??? I think there are a few small school studs this season
 
fanofgame said:
65.....When are we going to start talking about small school guys??? I think there are a few small school studs this season
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I have my top ten lists on a word doc, but I dont really like posting a small school list during the season. But yeah, right now I count about 15 draftable small school guys.
 
rmartin65 said:
I have my top ten lists on a word doc, but I dont really like posting a small school list during the season. But yeah, right now I count about 15 draftable small school guys.
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Any surprises or disappointments so far? Alemeda Ta'amu needs to bring it.
 
badboy said:
Any surprises or disappointments so far? Alemeda Ta'amu needs to bring it.
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In general, or just small school guys? In general, yeah, Ta'amu killed me last week. He looked nothing like a NFL NT- was often easily blocked by a single blocker, and was pushed out of the play, or spun himself out of the play on numerous occasions.

As far as small school guys, South Dakota OT Tom Compton is a guy that I am watching. I have him as a 3rd round prospect, and there is room for him to move up. 6'6" 310 or so, with great athleticism.
 
rmartin65 said:
In general, or just small school guys? In general, yeah, Ta'amu killed me last week. He looked nothing like a NFL NT- was often easily blocked by a single blocker, and was pushed out of the play, or spun himself out of the play on numerous occasions.

As far as small school guys, South Dakota OT Tom Compton is a guy that I am watching. I have him as a 3rd round prospect, and there is room for him to move up. 6'6" 310 or so, with great athleticism.
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Will he perform well in ZBS?
 
65..... what do you think of that kid Mayo at D2 Cal WR? He has over 450yds and 3TDS in 3 games with 3 of the TDS over 40 yards....at 6'2 200-210 he looks like a solid prospect. Any thoughts?
 
fanofgame said:
65..... what do you think of that kid Mayo at D2 Cal WR? He has over 450yds and 3TDS in 3 games with 3 of the TDS over 40 yards....at 6'2 200-210 he looks like a solid prospect. Any thoughts?
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I have not had a chance to watch any film of Cal (PA) this year, and he was unimpressive last year. I will see if I can catch a game of his soon, as those are pretty good numbers.
 
rmartin65 said:
I have not had a chance to watch any film of Cal (PA) this year, and he was unimpressive last year. I will see if I can catch a game of his soon, as those are pretty good numbers.
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He was at Concord the past 3 seasons last 2 years he has had over 1300yds each season. D2 All American 2 yrs in a row and named pre season All American this season by 5 or 6 publications.... Seems pretty solid
 
fanofgame said:
He was at Concord the past 3 seasons last 2 years he has had over 1300yds each season. D2 All American 2 yrs in a row and named pre season All American this season by 5 or 6 publications.... Seems pretty solid
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Ah, that would explain him being unimpressive on Cal PA film from last year! Yeah, I will take a look when I get the chance.
 
rmartin65 said:
Ah, that would explain him being unimpressive on Cal PA film from last year! Yeah, I will take a look when I get the chance.
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LOL!!! Today 7-164 2TDS 56YD AND 65YD. I watched the game on TV.... I also looked at his stats on the Cal website...he is now at 32-625 5TDS all 5 TDS are over 40yds This season he has 6 receptions over 40yds.
 
Tyrann Mathieu DB # 7 from LSU sure looked like a playmaker tonight. He isnt very big but has a knack for finding the ball. Someone to keep an eye on.
 
mussop said:
Tyrann Mathieu DB # 7 from LSU sure looked like a playmaker tonight. He isnt very big but has a knack for finding the ball. Someone to keep an eye on.
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I heard some good things about him on the radio a few days ago, he and Xavier Rhodes-CB from FSU are 2 guys to keep an eye on.
 
Mathieu is a stud. He is only a true sophomore though so he isn't eligible for the draft until after next season.
 
65 did you ever get a chance to look at Thomas Mayo? He ended the season with 79 rec 1359 yards and 17TDS.....Giving him 268 rec 4378 yards and 45 TDS on his career.... He is 7th All Time in Rec yards in D2 Football. I have watched most of his games this season and he runs good routes, has great hands, catches ball at highest point, attacks the ball and is 6'2 210-215lbs....seems pretty fast I am guessing 4.5 speed but may surprise when it comes to testing.....the other thing that jumps off while watching him is his ability to block.....and it seems like he enjoys it. I know NFL DRAFT SCOUT had him at 143 WR going into the year and he is now at 38 and rising fast..... Do you think it was because he was unknown due to the fact he played at Concord his first 3 years? I see this kid as a 5th-6th round pick and a very good value at that spot
 
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