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Texans in the playoffs at 9-7

I don't just want to "win". I want to win a Superbowl. I'd rather go 5-11 this year and win a superbowl next year then go 10-6 this year, lose in the playoffs, then go 10-6 and lose in the playoffs again next year.

If you don't think Kubiak will ever take us to a Superbowl, but you want to win a Superbowl, the only logical thing to root for is whatever it takes for Kubiak to be gone. In this case, that means losing games.

Talk all the **** you want about fans who don't agree with you (it doesn't make you tough or a better fan, btw), but it comes down to the same thing for every last one of us. We want a Superbowl.


Let's "just win" first. You have to win to win a Super Bowl. I'm not talking about coaching, I'm not talking about any of that. I want to win. I don't give a **** who the coach is. If Kubiak is the guy that gets us wins, then I want him. If we lose, I want someone else.

I'm not going to root against my team or "whatever it takes" to replace the coach just to prove a point or whatever. If we lose, then replace the guy, the players, whoever is at fault.
 
Honestly I feel like that is a NBA mentality. For example I don't really want the Rockets to make the playoffs...they'll get a low seed...get eliminated in 4-5 games...what point is that? If you're not a elite team in the NBA it is much better have lottery balls to draft a superstar player.

In the NFL though, any team can make a run at the end of the season. Teams can literally sneak into the playoffs, and go on a run. It happened with the Jets last year, it happened with the Cardinals too. So I just want to make the playoffs.
 
Even in the NBA, the benefit of making the playoffs is that, you made the playoffs. You get revenue from home games, some playoff experience for the kids, and its better than being in the lotto where you'll get stuck at #14.

Agreed about the NFL though. The Jets got lucky two straight games to get in, and look what happened. They went to the AFC Championship game, and got all this hype and mentality that they could win. Luck at the end of the year last year translated to luck throughout this year so far, and they're 9-2 playing for home field throughout.
 
It has nothing to do with accepting mediocrity. It's about wanting to see our team win.
Everyone wants the team to win. Get off that. What I'm discussing is the mentality of some fans here who want to keep the status quo. Regardless of how the seasons unfolds. If The Matrix thinks it's funny that some fans are so desperate for change that they would give up an imaginary playoff season, I find it hilarious that some fans still think that Gary Kubiak can bring a championship team here.
 
i'm tired of trying to figure out what has to happen for my losing 5 and 7 to squeak into the playoff's. I've had 4 years of that now.
 
Everyone wants the team to win. Get off that. What I'm discussing is the mentality of some fans here who want to keep the status quo. Regardless of how the seasons unfolds. If The Matrix thinks it's funny that some fans are so desperate for change that they would give up an imaginary playoff season, I find it hilarious that some fans still think that Gary Kubiak can bring a championship team here.


I'm not operating under the assumption that he can or can't. Not part of my thought process here. I'm just not going to root against my team, imaginary playoff scenarios or not. That's my point. I don't care if we're 1-14, or on a 6 game losing streak going into Week 17, or whatever.....I want to win each and every game we step out on the field to play. That's it.
 
I'm not operating under the assumption that he can or can't. Not part of my thought process here. I'm just not going to root against my team, imaginary playoff scenarios or not. That's my point. I don't care if we're 1-14, or on a 6 game losing streak going into Week 17, or whatever.....I want to win each and every game we step out on the field to play. That's it.

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Hope is a dangerous thing.

I'm going for 7-9. They blew it already. A great start with another mid season flop fest. They couldn't even keep up the winning for half a season. Sad. No what's sad is that yet again the team is a symbol of mediocrity, failed goals and worst of all a symbol for teams that refuse to hold it's management accountable for their mistakes, no matter how redundant they have become.
 
I hope the Texans lose out. I like to see them play well, and as long as there is a mathematical possibility that they can make the play-offs I can't help but hoping that they get in...For my own sake...For the sake of other fans that have waited so long....

But I honestly think that the team needs to make some drastic moves...coaching and personnel wise.

I do not want to see a bunch of meaningless wins at the end of the season when we are already pretty much eliminated. That isn't good for anybody except the people who keep putting forward this sucky product.
 
I hope the Texans lose out. I like to see them play well, and as long as there is a mathematical possibility that they can make the play-offs I can't help but hoping that they get in...For my own sake...For the sake of other fans that have waited so long....

But I honestly think that the team needs to make some drastic moves...coaching and personnel wise.

I do not want to see a bunch of meaningless wins at the end of the season when we are already pretty much eliminated. That isn't good for anybody except the people who keep putting forward this sucky product.


Sorry, I just can't get on board with this. That is the worst thing a fan can say imo. Seems like defeatism, treason and nonsense to me.

I understand you want a change. But to root for your team to lose is just wrong.
 
Agreed. The point is to win. I don't want to lose just for the sake of saying "hey, we DO suck" or any other "I told you so" bullshit.

As Herm says, you play to win the game.

Rooting for your team to lose is the most disgraceful **** ever.

Absolutely!
 
Sorry, I just can't get on board with this. That is the worst thing a fan can say imo. Seems like defeatism, treason and nonsense to me.

I understand you want a change. But to root for your team to lose is just wrong.

Man, I have never, ever rooted against the Texans. I'm a season ticket holder, and I love this team.

However, I have to admit that, deep down, I was sort of glad we lost the Philly game. I'm not proud of admitting that, but it is what it is.

That's what Gary has turned us into.
 
Man, I have never, ever rooted against the Texans. I'm a season ticket holder, and I love this team.

However, I have to admit that, deep down, I was sort of glad we lost the Philly game. I'm not proud of admitting that, but it is what it is.

That's what Gary has turned us into.

That may be looking for a silver lining, and I get that. But to go into a game hoping your team loses...

I agree with TheMatrix31, that is just disgraceful.
 
i hope we win out but with a defense this ass cheeks its hard to retain optimism

I get that. But at kickoff every game, I am pumped and cheering for my Texans to get a win. If they don't, I will feel miserable for two or three days and ***** and moan about what could have been. Then I start preparing for the next win that surely the Texans will find a way to win.

Often I am disappointed, but never do I give up.
 
Sorry, I just can't get on board with this. That is the worst thing a fan can say imo. Seems like defeatism, treason and nonsense to me.

I understand you want a change. But to root for your team to lose is just wrong.

Well, I look at it as having a child that is going down the wrong path. You know it, you can see it.

Sometimes it's better if that child gets into trouble early in life and learns a lesson vs. continuing to get away with their wrong doings.

Like if you're teenager is doing some petty shoplifting...


No you don't want to wish bad things on your child, but sometimes some kids need to be 'scared straight'.

This organization needs to be scared straight. I think McNair still hasn't fully learned how to demand that his football staff meet strict requirements or face consequences.

But besides that...

I think that a new, experienced HC and a top 15 draft pick would do more to help us than for Kubiak to be here and continue the status quo.

I want my team to do well. But I really think that the best way for that to happen is for them to fall flat on their face and learn from their mistakes.
 
are the eagles, jets, colts and chargers not SB contenders? and we gave those all good games. jesus you'd swear we were getting blown out every game.

The fact is we lost to everyone of those teams. Had any of those games,(barring our win over Indy Wk.1), been a playoff game. We'd be at home watching the rest of the playoffs yet again.
I'm not WANTING us to lose, not by any stretch of the imagination. But thinking we are viable SB contenders is just plain absurd. Until we can put 4 quarters of good O & D together, we are a team playing at their full potential of mediocrity and don't DESERVE to be in the post season.
 
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Well, I look at it as having a child that is going down the wrong path. You know it, you can see it.

Sometimes it's better if that child gets into trouble early in life and learns a lesson vs. continuing to get away with their wrong doings.

Like if you're teenager is doing some petty shoplifting...


No you don't want to wish bad things on your child, but sometimes some kids need to be 'scared straight'.

This organization needs to be scared straight. I think McNair still hasn't fully learned how to demand that his football staff meet strict requirements or face consequences.

But besides that...

I think that a new, experienced HC and a top 15 draft pick would do more to help us than for Kubiak to be here and continue the status quo.

I want my team to do well. But I really think that the best way for that to happen is for them to fall flat on their face and learn from their mistakes.

As a parent of 2 teenagers I approve this message. You just have to let them take their lumps. Trying to bail them out only compounds the issue. McNair has to see what a failure this organization is. If he never sees it , then we will start calling Jville's tarp supplier.
 
I can't believe we are 5-7 right now and arguably in better position than we were last year at the same point in time. Two years in a row where the postseason is just begging us to come and play. I'm thinking we turn down the invite again.
 
The fact is we lost to everyone of those teams. Had any of those games,(barring our win over Indy Wk.1), been a playoff game. We'd be at home watching the rest of the playoffs yet again.
I'm not WANTING us to lose, not by any stretch of the imagination. But thinking we are viable SB contenders is just plain absurd. Until we can put 4 quarters of good O & D together, we are a team playing at their full potential of mediocrity and don't DESERVE to be in the post season.

my post was in response to ppl posting that we'd get embarassed in a playoff game

..and btw while the jags did beat the titans, more importantly (imo) the colts lost. we're still in this thing... for another bit at least
 
Cant wait for the next thread "Texans in the playoffs at 8-8" after monday night. This team couldnt take advantage of the soft schedule last year and now our division sucks this year but we just had to suck a little more. ha
 
Well, I look at it as having a child that is going down the wrong path. You know it, you can see it.

Sometimes it's better if that child gets into trouble early in life and learns a lesson vs. continuing to get away with their wrong doings.

Like if you're teenager is doing some petty shoplifting...


No you don't want to wish bad things on your child, but sometimes some kids need to be 'scared straight'.

This organization needs to be scared straight. I think McNair still hasn't fully learned how to demand that his football staff meet strict requirements or face consequences.

But besides that...

I think that a new, experienced HC and a top 15 draft pick would do more to help us than for Kubiak to be here and continue the status quo.

I want my team to do well. But I really think that the best way for that to happen is for them to fall flat on their face and learn from their mistakes.

Thanks for saying this. It's sort of the point I was trying to make. Yes, I'm a fan, and no, I don't outwardly root for us to lose a game. But, again, deep down, I think we need to be slapped around, and getting embarrassed by losses may be what we need.

It would be a shame if the only thing that came out of this mess is Frank Bush losing his job. That would give Kubiak yet another pass, and have us going into the draft chosing 25 tight ends and ignoring the defensive secondary.
 
Well, I look at it as having a child that is going down the wrong path. You know it, you can see it.

Sometimes it's better if that child gets into trouble early in life and learns a lesson vs. continuing to get away with their wrong doings.

Like if you're teenager is doing some petty shoplifting...


No you don't want to wish bad things on your child, but sometimes some kids need to be 'scared straight'.

This organization needs to be scared straight. I think McNair still hasn't fully learned how to demand that his football staff meet strict requirements or face consequences.

But besides that...

I think that a new, experienced HC and a top 15 draft pick would do more to help us than for Kubiak to be here and continue the status quo.

I want my team to do well. But I really think that the best way for that to happen is for them to fall flat on their face and learn from their mistakes.

As a parent of 2 teenagers I approve this message. You just have to let them take their lumps. Trying to bail them out only compounds the issue. McNair has to see what a failure this organization is. If he never sees it , then we will start calling Jville's tarp supplier.


I call BS!!! If you want to use your child analogy, fine. Yeah, a child reaches a point where they have to bear responsibility for their actions, but a parent does not ever give up pulling for them to succeed.

Using that analogy is ridiculous btw, because the fans are not the parents, they have not control.

The fans that want their team to lose are nothing more than the noisy neighbors that can only hope they can raise enough of a stink to make some sort of change.
 
I call BS!!! If you want to use your child analogy, fine. Yeah, a child reaches a point where they have to bear responsibility for their actions, but a parent does not ever give up pulling for them to succeed.

Using that analogy is ridiculous btw, because the fans are not the parents, they have not control.

The fans that want their team to lose are nothing more than the noisy neighbors that can only hope they can raise enough of a stink to make some sort of change.

I'm calling BS back to you.

No one said we don't want the Texans to succeed. But we aren't succeeding. Something drastic has to happen. If nothing drastic happens, we will be here 12 months from now, wondering why we're 5-7 and frustrated because another year has been lost. Just like we were last year and this year.

As I said, I have never outwardly rooted for us to lose. But, I think something needs to happen to move this freaking franchise forward long term.

As for questioning my fandom, five years of season ticket holder status pretty much proves where I'm coming from. I'm tired of choking down meidocrity.
 
I call BS!!! If you want to use your child analogy, fine. Yeah, a child reaches a point where they have to bear responsibility for their actions, but a parent does not ever give up pulling for them to succeed.

Using that analogy is ridiculous btw, because the fans are not the parents, they have not control.

The fans that want their team to lose are nothing more than the noisy neighbors that can only hope they can raise enough of a stink to make some sort of change.

Whats that old saying? Squeaky wheel gets the oil?
 
I'm calling BS back to you.

No one said we don't want the Texans to succeed. But we aren't succeeding. Something drastic has to happen. If nothing drastic happens, we will be here 12 months from now, wondering why we're 5-7 and frustrated because another year has been lost. Just like we were last year and this year.

As I said, I have never outwardly rooted for us to lose. But, I think something needs to happen to move this freaking franchise forward long term.

As for questioning my fandom, five years of season ticket holder status pretty much proves where I'm coming from. I'm tired of choking down meidocrity.

Is this the first franchise in history to openly celebrate "OUR FIRST
NON-LOSING SEASON?"

WTF is that?
 
The fans that want their team to lose are nothing more than the noisy neighbors that can only hope they can raise enough of a stink to make some sort of change.

:) Oh don't worry......there's no "hope" about it. If they can't hear us, we'll just walk away from the keg and start hitting the hard stuff. Things will start popping off in the hood then.
 
I'm calling BS back to you.

No one said we don't want the Texans to succeed. But we aren't succeeding. Something drastic has to happen. If nothing drastic happens, we will be here 12 months from now, wondering why we're 5-7 and frustrated because another year has been lost. Just like we were last year and this year.

As I said, I have never outwardly rooted for us to lose. But, I think something needs to happen to move this freaking franchise forward long term.

As for questioning my fandom, five years of season ticket holder status pretty much proves where I'm coming from. I'm tired of choking down meidocrity.

Excuse me? This is the post I have been referring to. I have followed your post, and even stated that I agreed to and extent. But I don't think you have been following what I have been saying.

I hope the Texans lose out. I like to see them play well, and as long as there is a mathematical possibility that they can make the play-offs I can't help but hoping that they get in...For my own sake...For the sake of other fans that have waited so long....

But I honestly think that the team needs to make some drastic moves...coaching and personnel wise.

I do not want to see a bunch of meaningless wins at the end of the season when we are already pretty much eliminated. That isn't good for anybody except the people who keep putting forward this sucky product.
 
I never hope the Texans lose, let alone lose out.... I'm just not wired that way..

I agree.. as dismal as this season has turned out to be.. I still want the guys to go out there and put together a quality effort and chalk a W on the board..

I think that's the difference between a fair weather fan and a die hard.. win or lose.. I still love the guys that get out on that field, Sunday and I hope to God they win..
 
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I don't want the team to lose either and I won't root for them to lose, but I do expect it happen (and it happens more than not) and I want our DAMN OWNER to wake the hell up and acknowledge the failure that is Gary Kubiak....and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. RABBLE! RABBLE! RABBLE! :)
 
I don't want the team to lose either and I won't root for them to lose, but I do expect it and want our DAMN OWNER to wake the hell up and acknowledge the failure that is Gary Kubiak....and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

This sentiment I can understand. I may not agree with it at this point, but I do understand.
 
I could never pull for a Texans loss. Right now I hope for the best (wins) and at the end of the year I hope Kubes is elsewhere. Besides, at this point I think it's moot to pull a loss. Even if they win out the average writing is on the average wall. I just hope McNair can do the math.
 
I never hope the Texans lose, let alone lose out.... I'm just not wired that way..

That is what I have been trying to say... I just don't understand that mindset.

I agree.. as dismal as this season has turned out to be.. I still want the guys to go out there and put together a quality effort and chalk a W on the board..

I think that's the difference between a fair weather fan and a die hard.. win or lose.. I still love the guys that get out on that field, Sunday and I hope to God they win..

This!
 
If we made the playoffs?

(Yes, this is yet another Kubiak thread and a playoffs implication thread... but only better because it's both COMBINED.)

I know I have already said in the past that this season was all but done for us, but after reviewing the rest of the schedule for the AFCS recently, I realized that Kubiak popping the cherry really isn't as far fetched as I initially thought it was.

Jags Remainder of Schedule (7-5):

OAK@JAC
JAC@IND
WAS@JAC
JAC@HOU

Colts ROS (6-6):

IND@TEN
JAC@IND
IND@OAK
TEN@IND

Texans ROS (5-7):

BAL@HOU
HOU@TEN
HOU@DEN
JAC@HOU

Titans are irrelevant in my eyes; they seem to be done for this season. But if you must, 2-IND 1-HOU 1-KC. They're going to be 7-9 at best when it's all said and done.

The most important part when looking at these schedules are the divisional games. HOU & JAC with 2 each and IND with 3.

A must for Operations:TP (Texans Playoffs) to be successful.

Jac losing at Indy

Indy losing at Ten

Hou winning out

As for statistics:

  • Jacksonville is currently 3-1 in the division; having the last two on the road. They are currently 3-3 on the road. Now, their first divisional game will be at Indy, where they posted a 2/9 record against them, only winning by a FG or less in both affairs. Keep in mind that Jacksonville has never swept Indy before, and they have already won one earlier this season against Indy.
    We need them to lose against Indy for us to have any hope of getting into the PO; as I can't see them dropping three, if they get the sweep on Indy. Houston winning out would most likely be irrelevant if the Jags completes the sweep.

  • Indy is 1-2 in the division, and has dropped the last two games at home after the NE game. They are 2-4 on the road for this season, and could drop games against a dangerous OAK team or TEN, who has matched-up well against Indy in the past. If they win against TEN, then we need them to lose two of their last three; if they lose against TEN, then we need to just worry about ourselves.

  • Houston, as of now, is 2-2 in the division. Our biggest internal obstacle is getting past Baltimore next week. We are have an lousy 3-3 record at home, but we have shown in past time to get a win against visiting teams who should have mutilated us, during our annual 'Late-Season Push for Mediocrities'. The teams that we got the upset over, came in with the impressive records of:

    '06 INDY (11-3)
    '07 TB (8-4)
    '08 TEN (11-1)
    '09 NE (10-5)

    Next week, Balty will be coming in with a record of 9-3/8-4. Nothing special as we've faced team and overcame them with better records, before. Oh, and another fun fact to throw out there, we've been undefeated in week 14 since the arrival of Matt Schaub in 2007, each time with our trademark 5-7 records. Throw in the fact that we'll be wearing our owner's beloved battle red jerseys, we might have Lady Luck on our side for MNF.

    So, even after what happen to us in the last 5 weeks, all is not lost.. yet. This team needs to pull another underdog victory for one last push towards the playoffs. We need to win out to win this division. If we can getpast Balty, then we have an easy lane towards the playoffs (which we will probably screw up). If this scenario does play out, then we will be playing JAC at home, in battle red, for the first time on SNF for the divisional title; which is a game I'm sure we'll win. Divisional title or not, SNF or not.

If all of the above happens, we'll have a three-way tie for the AFC-S:

HOU, IND, JAC: 9-7

We will win the tie-breaker, for we will have a 4-2 record in the division, with IND & JAC posting a 3-3 records.

We will probably then go on to get our asses handed to us against NYJ/NE or PIT/BAL. But we will finally, at last, have that taste of the PO.

So, back to the question: Considering past rumors having big name coaches stating they would 'love to work for McNair (Namely: Bill Cowher), would you be content with keeping Kubiak if we do manage to get into the post-season?
 
Excuse me? This is the post I have been referring to. I have followed your post, and even stated that I agreed to and extent. But I don't think you have been following what I have been saying.

Fair enough. I mis-understood. My apologies.
 
If we made the playoffs?

(Yes, this is yet another Kubiak thread and a playoffs implication thread... but only better because it's both COMBINED.)
It's not better. And now it's combined.

Look, everyone here knows that Kubiak would be retained if the Texans made the playoffs. There's no argument there. So, feel free to run through all of the possible scenarios that would put the Texans in the playoffs. Just do it in the "Texans in the playoffs at 9-7" thread, aka The Impossible Dream.

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If we made the playoffs?

(Yes, this is yet another Kubiak thread and a playoffs implication thread... but only better because it's both COMBINED.)

I know I have already said in the past that this season was all but done for us, but after reviewing the rest of the schedule for the AFCS recently, I realized that Kubiak popping the cherry really isn't as far fetched as I initially thought it was.

Jags Remainder of Schedule (7-5):

OAK@JAC
JAC@IND
WAS@JAC
JAC@HOU

Colts ROS (6-6):

IND@TEN
JAC@IND
IND@OAK
TEN@IND

Texans ROS (5-7):

BAL@HOU
HOU@TEN
HOU@DEN
JAC@HOU

Titans are irrelevant in my eyes; they seem to be done for this season. But if you must, 2-IND 1-HOU 1-KC. They're going to be 7-9 at best when it's all said and done.

The most important part when looking at these schedules are the divisional games. HOU & JAC with 2 each and IND with 3.

A must for Operations:TP (Texans Playoffs) to be successful.

Jac losing at Indy

Indy losing at Ten

Hou winning out

As for statistics:

  • Jacksonville is currently 3-1 in the division; having the last two on the road. They are currently 3-3 on the road. Now, their first divisional game will be at Indy, where they posted a 2/9 record against them, only winning by a FG or less in both affairs. Keep in mind that Jacksonville has never swept Indy before, and they have already won one earlier this season against Indy.
    We need them to lose against Indy for us to have any hope of getting into the PO; as I can't see them dropping three, if they get the sweep on Indy. Houston winning out would most likely be irrelevant if the Jags completes the sweep.

  • Indy is 1-2 in the division, and has dropped the last two games at home after the NE game. They are 2-4 on the road for this season, and could drop games against a dangerous OAK team or TEN, who has matched-up well against Indy in the past. If they win against TEN, then we need them to lose two of their last three; if they lose against TEN, then we need to just worry about ourselves.

  • Houston, as of now, is 2-2 in the division. Our biggest internal obstacle is getting past Baltimore next week. We are have an lousy 3-3 record at home, but we have shown in past time to get a win against visiting teams who should have mutilated us, during our annual 'Late-Season Push for Mediocrities'. The teams that we got the upset over, came in with the impressive records of:

    '06 INDY (11-3)
    '07 TB (8-4)
    '08 TEN (11-1)
    '09 NE (10-5)

    Next week, Balty will be coming in with a record of 9-3/8-4. Nothing special as we've faced team and overcame them with better records, before. Oh, and another fun fact to throw out there, we've been undefeated in week 14 since the arrival of Matt Schaub in 2007, each time with our trademark 5-7 records. Throw in the fact that we'll be wearing our owner's beloved battle red jerseys, we might have Lady Luck on our side for MNF.

    So, even after what happen to us in the last 5 weeks, all is not lost.. yet. This team needs to pull another underdog victory for one last push towards the playoffs. We need to win out to win this division. If we can getpast Balty, then we have an easy lane towards the playoffs (which we will probably screw up). If this scenario does play out, then we will be playing JAC at home, in battle red, for the first time on SNF for the divisional title; which is a game I'm sure we'll win. Divisional title or not, SNF or not.

If all of the above happens, we'll have a three-way tie for the AFC-S:

HOU, IND, JAC: 9-7

We will win the tie-breaker, for we will have a 4-2 record in the division, with IND & JAC posting a 3-3 records.

We will probably then go on to get our asses handed to us against NYJ/NE or PIT/BAL. But we will finally, at last, have that taste of the PO.

So, back to the question: Considering past rumors having big name coaches stating they would 'love to work for McNair (Namely: Bill Cowher), would you be content with keeping Kubiak if we do manage to get into the post-season?

As far fetched as this is I can buy most of it for now but I cant buy that Tenn is going to beat the Colts.
 
It's not better. And now it's combined.

Look, everyone here knows that Kubiak would be retained if the Texans made the playoffs. There's no argument there. So, feel free to run through all of the possible scenarios that would put the Texans in the playoffs. Just do it in the "Texans in the playoffs at 9-7" thread, aka The Impossible Dream.

We all know Kubiak is going to be retained, regardless of playoffs or not, due to the lockout most likely happening; plus McNair infatuation with the story of a Houston-native HC taking us to the promise land. The biggest change at coaching staff will be the DC. Yet we have all this pointless, redundant Kubiak threads that is discussing something that we know won't happen.

But we're giving our opinions on what we think about that unsaid-fact. Same thing with my post.

Oh, and left out the picture in the quote for it's ridiculous size.

Oh, and it was better because it had fun facts in the post.
 
We all know Kubiak is going to be retained, regardless of playoffs or not, due to the lockout most likely happening; plus McNair infatuation with the story of a Houston-native HC taking us to the promise land. The biggest change at coaching staff will be the DC. Yet we have all this pointless, redundant Kubiak threads that is discussing something that we know won't happen.

But we're giving our opinions on what we think about that unsaid-fact. Same thing with my post.

Oh, and left out the picture in the quote for it's ridiculous size.

Oh, and it was better because it had fun facts in the post.

How do you know he'll be retained, playoffs or not?

The lockout is a non-issue. McNair has to sell something to season ticket holders, regardless of the lockout. Another year of Kubiak is a non-sell.

Lockout or not, Kubiak has not earned another year.

Period.
 
To me, it's kind of obvious - you don't change the culture of a franchise (or the mindset of an owner) by becoming so bad that there's no way that the need for a change can be denied.

All that does is say that 2-14 (or 5-11 or 6-10) is below the level of performance that's considered to be satisfactory, but it doesn't change what that level is to begin with.

If the problem is that 8-8 (or 9-7 or 7-9) is too satisfactory to ownership, then the way you change it is to finish there often enough that they get tired of it and decide they want more. All finishing at 5-11 or 6-10 is going to do is make 8-8 look that much better.

Put another way, if you're driving a Toyota, and you're perfectly happy with it, with no inclination to upgrade to a Mercedes or BMW, suddenly being forced to drive a Kia, isn't going to make you want a Mercedes or a BMW, it's just going to make getting back into a Toyota look pretty darn good.

On the other hand, while it may take some people longer than others, eventually, most get tired of the status quo eventually, and want to do something about it.
 
OP: We can still save it!

ER nurse: The season is gone... you can stop with the chest compressions.

OP: No! NOOOOOOO!

ER nurse: Please. Stop. Just let the season go.

OP: I can't! We have to keep trying to find a way to bring it back!

ER nurse: Really? It's been dead for weeks. Just let it go.....

Maybe TK can pull a John Q., and we'll make postseason after all.
 
That is what I have been trying to say... I just don't understand that mindset.


That's what is great about the human race. We can all think independently and it really doesn't matter whether or not someone understands your mindset.

I hope the Texans lose out and I am not afraid to say it.

I don't think the team is as good as they believe they are. I think that the 8-8 and 9-7 records have given them a false sense of complacency and hope.

They beat up on some teams that were not trying their hardest to win the game and teams that were in complete turmoil to achieve those records. Not that they haven't done ANYTHING good, but they have not achieved what they think they have.

Yes...I hope the Texans lose out. In fact I hope the get freaking embarrassed so they can wake up and realize that they are putting a shitty product out on the field and that they aren't "almost there".
 
We all know Kubiak is going to be retained, regardless of playoffs or not...
"We"? I know nothing of the sort. The Texans won't be in the playoffs and Kubiak will be asked to leave. That's how I see it.
 
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