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im done with schaub

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ATXtexanfan

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always underthrows balls down field, throws a pick to a DT on a screen (how does that happen), then skips a ball to a guy 8 yards away. goodbye kubes, schaub, rick smith, and frank bush.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
always underthrows balls down field, throws a pick to a DT on a screen (how does that happen), then skips a ball to a guy 8 yards away. goodbye kubes, schaub, rick smith, and frank bush.
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I'm not sure if I'm done with Schaub, but his inability to run a simple 5 yarder in open space is really pissing me off.
 
Schaub has had the traits of a loser since the day he got here.
He just has absolutely no traits that a winner has.

He folds up under pressure. He never rises to the occasion. He just simply is not very good, bless his heart. He tries.....
He just is not good.
 
LOL. It is such a kick in the nuts to be a fan of this team.

Can't wait to hear all the noise on here about how much better we looked, blah blah blah...

Always down by 14+ points in first half, always coming from behind.

But screw it. Nothing matters. Squeeze your butt cheeks and brace yourself for the inevitable kick to the nuts.
 
Schaub has led us on too many comebacks and has shown he is a leader for me to give up on him. But, he does make too many dumb mistakes at times.
 
The problem is not Schuab isn't good enough ( he is not a difference maker) , it is the real fact that he is still better than what at least half of the league is trotting out there. Schaub's average to good at times act has Houston in a stuck mode. The answer with this type of dude is to get a near perfect team around him. And we know that has not worked so well.
 
His INT in the first half only resulted in 3 points. Hard to win any game when your defense gives up 34 points.
 
panamamyers said:
Schaub has had the traits of a loser since the day he got here.
He just has absolutely no traits that a winner has.

He folds up under pressure. He never rises to the occasion. He just simply is not very good, bless his heart. He tries.....
He just is not good.
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Never really thought of that until now but you are right. He is not clutch. When the shinola hits the fan he runs for cover.
 
BullNation4Life said:
True but under throwing a WIDE OPEN Andre Johnson, throwing picks to the damn defensive lineman, skipping the ball 3 yards from the receiver sure in the hell doesn't help either....
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schaub makes mistakes but...

schaub is not brady
schaub is not manning
schaub is not bress
schaub is not rivers.

he is a solid qb who needs a running game and a good defense to be successful.

if we even had a DECENT defense the texans would be leading the afc south and this thread wouldn't even be here
 
Mr. Texan said:
schaub makes mistakes but...

schaub is not brady
schaub is not manning
schaub is not bress
schaub is not rivers.

he is a solid qb who needs a running game and a good defense to be successful.

if we even had a DECENT defense the texans would be leading the afc south and this thread wouldn't even be here
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Problem is, this defense usually has to play the entire first half by itself.
That's not a good recipe to victory. This offense can't sustain a drive
until WELL INTO the third quarter.
 
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! You suck!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe he fumbled......no wait.... I can. Why does this crap always happen to us?

WTF
 
The same story as every week we play one half of football. Until they play 60mins this is what we are going to get.
 
If the team can't see that Schaub is a loser by now then they deserve what they get. They can cut him loose now and get started with the rebuild or they can give him 4 more years and wallow in mediocrity for those four years then start the rebuild.

I cannot think of a single quarterback out there that I wouldn't rather have.

To have the talent he has around him and to still be 10th in the league in ppg.

The team wins in spite of him, not because of him.
 
Mr. Texan said:
schaub makes mistakes but...

schaub is not brady
schaub is not manning
schaub is not bress
schaub is not rivers.

he is a solid qb who needs a running game and a good defense to be successful.

if we even had a DECENT defense the texans would be leading the afc south and this thread wouldn't even be here
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Schaub is barely Jay Cutler.....
 
Being better than Carr isn't enough. Like I said in the gameday thread, Schaub is the on field extension of Kubiak - a par at best, natural loser.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
The problem is not Schuab isn't good enough ( he is not a difference maker) , it is the real fact that he is still better than what at least half of the league is trotting out there. Schaub's average to good at times act has Houston in a stuck mode. The answer with this type of dude is to get a near perfect team around him. And we know that has not worked so well.
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Bingo.

If you want to get rid of your QB you better be making an improvement. Or else you risk the team completely sucking again...remember David Carr?

Matt is not the problem, Football is a team game and Matt would look much better if the defense could prevent teams from scoring every once in a while.
 
Dude, Schaub has done some incredible, INCREDIBLE things here. He's regressed big-time though since his security blanket got hurt last year.
 
panamamyers said:
If the team can't see that Schaub is a loser by now then they deserve what they get. They can cut him loose now and get started with the rebuild or they can give him 4 more years and wallow in mediocrity for those four years then start the rebuild.

I cannot think of a single quarterback out there that I wouldn't rather have.

To have the talent he has around him and to still be 10th in the league in ppg.

The team wins in spite of him, not because of him.
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You, my friend, don't know anything.
 
wow, such a backlash to schaub from texans fans.

schaub may not be top tier elite but there is not a better qb we can get.
 
Showtime100 said:
Let's fix the transmission first (Kubes & Co)
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I agree with the original poster. Schaub in fact is part of this year's problem. But there's no denying that Schaub is serviceable, at least. Let's fix the coaching staff, and see if they want to keep, or trade Schaub.


Let Bill Cowher decide.
 
panamamyers said:
Schaub has had the traits of a loser since the day he got here.
He just has absolutely no traits that a winner has.

He folds up under pressure. He never rises to the occasion. He just simply is not very good, bless his heart. He tries.....
He just is not good.
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*shakes head and walks away*
 
Matt Schaub is not the problem. The defense has given up thirty points in six of their last eight games. One of the two they didn't give up 30 was San Diego who scored 29 against this defense. The only victory Houston has that they didn't score over thirty was to Tennessee last week. Matt Schaub or the Texans offense is not the problem. You can't expect to win many games if the defense is giving up 30+ points every week.
 
I agree that Schaub has had his problems this year. He hasn't been as consistent. But seriously, he has to have a flawless game for us to win with the way our defense is playing. Right now he's low on the list of problems right now.
 
Schaub really made me angry when he cried about that "hands to the head" non-call. There was nothing there at all. I was watching the game with my buddy who is an Eagles fan and I was seriously embarrassed after that play. If you don't want to get touched, don't play the game.
 
fiasco west said:
If you want to get rid of your QB you better be making an improvement. Or else you risk the team completely sucking again...remember David Carr?
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That's why I will never EVER ***** about about a competent QB.

He's not Elway or Montana, but he doesn't need to be.

Even Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl for crisakes.
 
TexCanada said:
Schaub really made me angry when he cried about that "hands to the head" non-call. There was nothing there at all. I was watching the game with my buddy who is an Eagles fan and I was seriously embarrassed after that play. If you don't want to get touched, don't play the game.
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I've seen many QBs whine about that kind of call.
 
CharloTex said:
I agree with the original poster. Schaub in fact is part of this year's problem. But there's no denying that Schaub is serviceable, at least. Let's fix the coaching staff, and see if they want to keep, or trade Schaub.


Let Bill Cowher decide.
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If Cowher comes here the last thing I want him to replace is the offense. If he just fixes the defense this will be an elite team.
 
Mr. White said:
That's why I will never EVER ***** about about a competent QB.

He's not Elway or Montana, but he doesn't need to be.

Even Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl for crisakes.
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Trent Dilfer also had THE BEST DEFENSE in 2000 and I believe the NFL leading rusher in Jamal Lewis that year. He didn't have to do anything....
 
TexCanada said:
Schaub really made me angry when he cried about that "hands to the head" non-call. There was nothing there at all. I was watching the game with my buddy who is an Eagles fan and I was seriously embarrassed after that play. If you don't want to get touched, don't play the game.
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It's not about him getting hit violently. It's about consistency. If his jersey said Manning/Brees/Brady, you bet your ****ing sweet ass they call it.
 
TexCanada said:
Schaub really made me angry when he cried about that "hands to the head" non-call. There was nothing there at all. I was watching the game with my buddy who is an Eagles fan and I was seriously embarrassed after that play. If you don't want to get touched, don't play the game.
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The second time there was very little contact but the first time Cole came with a hard fore arm to the head and the ref just stood there. That is suppose to be a 15 yard penalty every time and it hasn't been getting called league wide....

Saw the same this happen to Manning against NE
 
Mr. Texan said:
schaub makes mistakes but...

schaub is not brady
schaub is not manning
schaub is not bress
schaub is not rivers.

he is a solid qb who needs a running game and a good defense to be successful.

if we even had a DECENT defense the texans would be leading the afc south and this thread wouldn't even be here
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I think this is just true. Schaub has limitations that can be schemed around but he's not going to carry anybody on his shoulders. He does a lot with not much in the way of tools. He doesn't have a strong arm. He isn't particularly accurate, and he's certainly not mobile. He isn't (consistently) clutch and makes bad decisions under pressure.

If you can protect him, provide him with a running game, and have a defense that can hold their own then Schaub won't kill you but if you can't do that or don't have those things (or won't use them from time to time for no particular reason other than that you're the smartest coach in the room) then he can be a liability at times.

We have a lousy defense so we're done from the get-go regardless of all of that. "Least of our problems" is a good description of Matt Schaub. If our biggest real problem was rectified then Schaub's maddening play would be a just a minor irritant.
 
fiasco west said:
Bingo.

If you want to get rid of your QB you better be making an improvement. Or else you risk the team completely sucking again...remember David Carr?

Matt is not the problem, Football is a team game and Matt would look much better if the defense could prevent teams from scoring every once in a while.
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Yahtzee... There are far more trades made for or draft picks spent on other position needs other than QB.
 
BullNation4Life said:
Trent Dilfer also had THE BEST DEFENSE in 2000 and I believe the NFL leading rusher in Jamal Lewis that year. He didn't have to do anything....
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He already has the NFL's leading rusher. His defense is nowhere close.

He's still better than most starting QB's.
 
panamamyers said:
If the team can't see that Schaub is a loser by now then they deserve what they get. They can cut him loose now and get started with the rebuild or they can give him 4 more years and wallow in mediocrity for those four years then start the rebuild.

I cannot think of a single quarterback out there that I wouldn't rather have.

To have the talent he has around him and to still be 10th in the league in ppg.

The team wins in spite of him, not because of him.
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So you are telling me you would take Derek Anderson or JaMarcus Russell over Schaub? OK then.....
 
Hervoyel said:
I think this is just true. Schaub has limitations that can be schemed around but he's not going to carry anybody on his shoulders. He does a lot with not much in the way of tools. He doesn't have a strong arm. He isn't particularly accurate, and he's certainly not mobile. He isn't (consistently) clutch and makes bad decisions under pressure.

If you can protect him, provide him with a running game, and have a defense that can hold their own then Schaub won't kill you but if you can't do that or don't have those things (or won't use them from time to time for no particular reason other than that you're the smartest coach in the room) then he can be a liability at times.

We have a lousy defense so we're done from the get-go regardless of all of that. "Least of our problems" is a good description of Matt Schaub. If our biggest real problem was rectified then Schaub's maddening play would be a just a minor irritant.
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See this is the problem i have with some in here. Not saying you Hervey, but aside from 3-4 qbs in the league, all qbs are bothered by these things. Why is that looked at as a problem that only he has?

& For the record, he made many plays with pressure bearing down on him. You're not going to make them all. The guy also almost never gets a short field to work with either. I just can't fathom why some in here think that every team has a manning/brady under center that is immune to pressure.
 
Schaub reminds me of Chris Chandler. Both are legitimately good QBs. However, neither would ever be considered franchise QBs.
 
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