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DID MCNAIRS SEAT JUST GET HOT OR NOT????????
DID MCNAIRS SEAT JUST GET HOT OR NOT????????
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After the San Diego loss, McNair said coach Gary Kubiak wouldnt be fired after the season. When he was asked about Kubiak today, he said, We talk about the game and the performance and the very things Im talking about.
:kubepalm: This team is fantastic at public relations... What he said sounded straight like "Owner speak". It's obvious he's starting to get whiff of how upset fans are (which is why he even bothered to "politician" his way through his previous comments), but doesn't really put anyone on notice. His comments were just damage control. Damage control that isn't going to work.
My god, I hope we don't keep Kubiak for another year. It's almost like if he can atleast get to 7-9, he'll let Kubiak keep his job.
Havent read the article but just to play devils advocate ..... I can see why McNair might give him another year and the reasons are numerous.
1) The way they started the season smashing Indy in the mouth. That was encouraging.
1) Injuries to key contributors - Barwin , Ryans , OD , AJ. The suspensions of Brown and Cushing.
3) The youth in the secondary , we all knew there would be growing pains - just no one had a clue that it would be THIS BAD. Makes me miss "Pay Me Rick". I kinda put the blame for that move on Smith , this being an uncapped year they could have franchised him again or found a veteran CB in FA who could help these kids out.
4) And this is the big one -There is likely going to be a work stoppage next season. There could be no season or a partial season. If it happens to be a partial season with no training camp or preseason .... what are you going to do , bring in a new coach and have him hand out a new playbook and ask the entire team to learn it in a week or ten days ? That just doesnt seem very productive to me.
They have been in position to win almost every game and could easily be 7-3 with a few breaks here and there - The coaches get credit for that as its their job to put the players in a position to win - the players have to be held accountable too - Someone has to make a damn play , they havent done that.
(on if he is still sticking with Kubiak) “I’m concerned about winning this game against Tennessee. I always do what I think is in the best interest of this team, and that’s what motivates me. And it’s in our best interest right now to get ready and play Tennessee and go out there and win this game, and that’s what I expect us to do.”
http://blog.houstontexans.com/2010/11/24/mcnair-chimes-in-on-texans-struggles/
That doesn't sound like an endorsement to me.
They have been in position to win almost every game and could easily be 7-3 with a few breaks here and there - The coaches get credit for that as its their job to put the players in a position to win - the players have to be held accountable too - Someone has to make a damn play , they havent done that.
"I was very proud of that comeback," McNair said. "At the same time, you can't win games playing 59 minutes, and that was the big disappointment. We just have to learn to play 60 minutes and get these things closed out."
(on if he is still sticking with Kubiak) Im concerned about winning this game against Tennessee. I always do what I think is in the best interest of this team, and thats what motivates me. And its in our best interest right now to get ready and play Tennessee and go out there and win this game, and thats what I expect us to do.
http://blog.houstontexans.com/2010/11/24/mcnair-chimes-in-on-texans-struggles/
That doesn't sound like an endorsement to me.
proud?
Proud of a team that can't pull it's head out if it's ass for the first half of a game? I could see using words like "encouraged" or something, but proud indicates accomplishment.
That's just pathetic, even if it is just owner-speak. There's no accountability in those words.
And after five freakin' years, you'd think there would be a little less patience for a coach that has not taught his team to play a full 60 minutes of football.
What McNair says during the season amounts to jack ****. He's not going to say anything negative about his employees during the season.
We all knew that he had a man-crush on Carr and he never said a bad word about him. Then the season was over in January and Carr was out by February. He still had nothing but good stuff to say about the guy.
If you're looking for the owner to say he joined the Soapers, it'll never happen. If human nature applies to him, then he wants the same results we all want.
Agreed....but some new coaches on Defense for next season better be non-negotiable.
I absolutely agree with that. He didn't say a bad word about Dom Capers either before he fired him at the end of the season. Not one word.
I have no doubt that McNair will fire Kubes at the end of the season if they don't make the playoffs. I don't need to hear McNair throw Kubes under the bus in order to know that.
Some of you, no, a whole hell of a lot of you, want McNair to do just that . . . show his frustration, vent, and throw somebody under the bus.
Fans can show and voice their frustrations, make knee-jerk reactions, and throw people under the bus. That's because they have no say-so in running the team.
Owners aren't allowed to go half-cocked. Whatever they say or do, has consequences.
Unfortunately, I think even 6-10......MAYBE even 5-11 he keeps his job.
-CBA lockout
-Extension signed
-#1 SOS in the league this year
-"Youth on defense"
-"Competed in most every game and were just killed by last second gaffs"
Above are all the selling points that Kubes and Co. will sell to keep their jobs plus McNair just doesn't pull the trigger sometimes. We need Marvin Zindler back from the grave to investigate how McNair became a billionare business man with eployees like this and not making personell changes.
I wish I could have been a McNair employee. I guess I could just Shake Weight up and down all day in my office, do damn near nothing or eff stuff up and get the ole "Aw Shucks" from my boss and go right back to work and my paycheck the next day.
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I absolutely agree with that. He didn't say a bad word about Dom Capers either before he fired him at the end of the season. Not one word.
I have no doubt that McNair will fire Kubes at the end of the season if they don't make the playoffs. I don't need to hear McNair throw Kubes under the bus in order to know that.
Some of you, no, a whole hell of a lot of you, want McNair to do just that . . . show his frustration, vent, and throw somebody under the bus.
Fans can show and voice their frustrations, make knee-jerk reactions, and throw people under the bus. That's because they have no say-so in running the team.
Owners aren't allowed to go half-cocked. Whatever they say or do, has consequences.
We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time.
I feel what you're saying, but Houston fans ain't buying those bullet
points this season. Mcnair knows that, and will have no choice but
to fire Kubes if the team falls short. We got people like Kimmy, Dale,
and Joe Texan calling for Kubiak's head. If THEY are wanting him gone,
I can imagine how the rest of the season ticket holders feel about it.
Mcnair ain't proved himself to be stupid, just yet.
I'm counting down they months, days, hours, minutes and seconds til the texans hire someone nobody likes.
I'm a make that 'i told you' thread, and get a ton of -rep for doing so.
Uncle Bob said:"I think we're going to go out and win this game," McNair said. "If we win this game, then probably we'll be in the second place in the division, one game out.
I think we all know that Kubiak will be back next year. The only real question is what happens with the defensive staff. Honestly, there is only so much you can do with limited talent.
There it is again....Every year since Kubiak has arrived as HC that limited talent thing has been used to get him a pass. That doesn't hold water anymore. After four drafts this team and all the talent on it has been handpicked by Kubiak. It is HIS talent that is out there so if it is limitted, it is his. I am however not so sure that the talent is really that limitted. I subscribe to the talent regression theory. I believe the talent is there but it has been coached down. But any way it goes, that old "limitted talent" saw will not work anymore. It needs to be execised from Texan's vocabulary.I think we all know that Kubiak will be back next year. The only real question is what happens with the defensive staff. Honestly, there is only so much you can do with limited talent.
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There it is again....Every year since Kubiak has arrived as HC that limited talent thing has been used to get him a pass. That doesn't hold water anymore. After four drafts this team and all the talent on it has been handpicked by Kubiak. It is HIS talent that is out there so if it is limitted, it is his. I am however not so sure that the talent is really that limitted. I subscribe to the talent regression theory. I believe the talent is there but it has been coached down. But any way it goes, that old "limitted talent" saw will not work anymore. It needs to be execised from Texan's vocabulary.
Yep. Also, we have had several players leave this team, go elsewhere, and get dramatically better. That's coaching.
The only thing we "know" is that season ticket holders are DONE. Even the most hard core season ticket holders can't defend this team anymore. I hung out with a buddy of mine tonight who has been an original ticket holder, and he's done.
This has hit to the core of the fan base, and, trust me, Kubiak doesn't have the job security you think he does.
Yep. Also, we have had several players leave this team, go elsewhere, and get dramatically better. That's coaching.
Who are these players that have gone to another team and got dramatically better?
Who are these players that have gone to another team and got dramatically better?