Jacksonville put up 495 yards on Houston. When the Texans decide to get tougher all through their organization, then I will pay attention. ...
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Jacksonville put up 495 yards on Houston. When the Texans decide to get tougher all through their organization, then I will pay attention. ...
Kubiak says the kids are doing a "dang-good" job.
Setting aside the issue of "toughness" for a moment, one thing that made me nervous about Kubiak from the very start was his reluctance to remain with the Texans base-defense of the 3-4 when he first arrived here.
Why would he even care if we went with a 3-4 instead of 4-3, he's not an offensive guy, and initially he didn't know who his DC was gonna be ? But instead he announced from the beginning that we'd go 4-3 and I think it was just because he's a guy that's very set in his ways, or put another way lacks flexibility or adaptability.
I'm beginning to think that Kubiak now spews any positives on his players not on merit but solely to maintain player support.........and any little chance of hanging onto his job.
You would have been one of the lew people say we needed to stay the 3-4. For all the wringing of the hands about the QB then, the defense was worse and like now fans think changing the scheme is the be all to end all to changing the fortunes of the defense.
I disagree with you 100 %. Other folks on other threads have broken down the current Texans defense to show most of our players would convert well to the 3-4. The focus would move off the Dline to linebacker where we have better players in my opinion. The defensive backs, especially our corners would do much better. We do not have the perfect Nose, but this season is going down the drain so let's start the switch now and begin giving our players some hope.I'm one of the few that wants to stick with the 4-3 (unless the right guy comes in to change it). We're too late on switching to the 3-4 and there's a lot of talent to be had for the 4-3 defense in future drafts since few teams are running it anymore. Proper execution of a well-planned scheme is what we need (see the Eagles' 4-3 defense last night), regardless of what defense we're running.
I disagree with you 100 %. Other folks on other threads have broken down the current Texans defense to show most of our players would convert well to the 3-4. The focus would move off the Dline to linebacker where we have better players in my opinion. The defensive backs, especially our corners would do much better. We do not have the perfect Nose, but this season is going down the drain so let's start the switch now and begin giving our players some hope.
In the draft picking apprx 8-10:
1. CB shut down http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011pamukamara.php OR Brandon Harris*, CB, Miami
Height: 5-11. Weight: 195.
Projected 40 Time: 4.41.
Projected Round (2011): Top 20 Pick.
10/9/10: Harris is a baller - period. On tape, he produces and plays with the swagger and confidence you want to see out of a cornerback. He's a missle in run support and shows the ability to take on a block. In coverage, receivers really struggle to separate and offensive coordinators have stopped calling plays his way this season.
5/13/10: Brandon Harris broke up a whopping 15 passes last year and also had six TFL.
2. NT Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole Miss
Height: 6-2. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.35.
Projected Round (2011): 1-2.
10/8/10: Powe's stock is on the decline this season. He's trying to prove he is a gap-shooting 3-technique. Instead, his coaching staff should let him be an immoveable object at the line of scrimmage. Powe needs to play with more power and be an anchor on the line.
5/8/10: The top nose tackle in the 2011 NFL Draft, Jerrell Powe collected 12 TFL and two sacks in 2009, earning All-SEC Second Team honors.
3. Free safety: your choice
The Texans have NEVER done anything worthy of gaining respect from the national media.
Talking heads pick them at the beginning of seasons because of stats, but not because the franchise has actually accomplished anything noteworthy on the gridiron. ONE friggin' winning season in 8 years is nothing to hang a hat on, and to be quiet honest, it is sad and pathetic.
It is time to see things for what they really are, not what we want or wish them to be. Our team is "that" team in the NFL now, the one that the Saints and Bucs used to be years ago. Year after year of mediocrity and what ifs, but not much else.
Thing is, there is WAAAAAAAY too much parity in the NFL for any team to be THAT team year after year. No excuses.
I agree completely. When you see a team like the Saints get the no. 2 overall pick after the Texans in 2006, and then not only make the playoffs but win a championship, it is obvious that all kinds of wrongs are going down in Houston. We should be a much better team than the one that we are trying to root for right now.
I'm one of the few that wants to stick with the 4-3 (unless the right guy comes in to change it). We're too late on switching to the 3-4 and there's a lot of talent to be had for the 4-3 defense in future drafts since few teams are running it anymore. Proper execution of a well-planned scheme is what we need (see the Eagles' 4-3 defense last night), regardless of what defense we're running.
Did they really put up 495 yards? Holy freaking ****.
Setting aside the issue of "toughness" for a moment, one thing that made me nervous about Kubiak from the very start was his reluctance to remain with the Texans base-defense of the 3-4 when he first arrived here.
Why would he even care if we went with a 3-4 instead of 4-3, he's not an offensive guy, and initially he didn't know who his DC was gonna be ? But instead he announced from the beginning that we'd go 4-3 and I think it was just because he's a guy that's very set in his ways, or put another way lacks flexibility or adaptability.
Yeah, we have to overhaul our defense anyway, so switching wouuld be fine with me.
I'm one of the few that wants to stick with the 4-3 (unless the right guy comes in to change it). We're too late on switching to the 3-4 and there's a lot of talent to be had for the 4-3 defense in future drafts since few teams are running it anymore. Proper execution of a well-planned scheme is what we need (see the Eagles' 4-3 defense last night), regardless of what defense we're running.
Also seems like a pretty steep learning curve for switching schemes. The only guy I can think of that was recently successful at it within 1 season is Capers in GB.
I don't think it's the scheme so much as it is the philosophy. The undersized DT's just don't work. There's plenty of teams that run 4-3's that get a lot better results than ours. The Titans, Eagles, and Giants come to mind.
I wouldn't be oppossed to Bob McNair bringing in someone like Lombardi as a consultant (has previous GM experience) he knows the league & might just bring in a whole new fresh outlook, couldn't hurt?
:kubepalm:
Tennessee's DT's go 276 lbs and 305 lbs. Philly's are 300 and 322 lbs. The Giants' go 306 and 304 lbs. The Texans are at 285 and 305 lbs. So one "bigger" DT out of eight on the teams mentioned and even he isn't that much bigger.
If we aren't going to bring in players that are tools, I would certainly hope we don't bring in media personalities with roughly the same qualities.
Seems like McNair and Casserly were talking about switching to a 4-3 right after Capers got fired. I'm not sure Kubiak had much choice in the matter.
I don't think it's the scheme so much as it is the philosophy. The undersized DT's just don't work. There's plenty of teams that run 4-3's that get a lot better results than ours. The Titans, Eagles, and Giants come to mind.
Also seems like a pretty steep learning curve for switching schemes. The only guy I can think of that was recently successful at it within 1 season is Capers in GB.
I don't think the defense really needs an overhaul. There's plenty of talented players on that side of the ball.
They just need a DC that knows what the hell he's doing.
Over the last few years multiple systems have won at the highelst level a quick review
Saints Aggressive 4-3
Steelers Stunting 3-4 with zone blitz
Giants Aggressive 4-3
Colts 4-3 simple cover 2
Patriots power 3-4
The key is matching personnel and scheme, getting players in the best position to play to execute and play to their strengths and cover the weaknesses as much as possible.
What's a "power 3-4"? The only distinction between 3-4 schemes that I'm aware of is the more aggressive LeBeau 3-4 and the less aggressive 3-4 employed by the likes of Wade Phillips and Dom Capers.
Also, I thought the Pats used more of a hybrid scheme?
Tennessee's DT's go 276 lbs and 305 lbs. Philly's are 300 and 322 lbs. The Giants' go 306 and 304 lbs. The Texans are at 285 and 305 lbs. So one "bigger" DT out of eight on the teams mentioned and even he isn't that much bigger.
Tennessee's DT's go 276 lbs and 305 lbs. Philly's are 300 and 322 lbs. The Giants' go 306 and 304 lbs. The Texans are at 285 and 305 lbs. So one "bigger" DT out of eight on the teams mentioned and even he isn't that much bigger.
It has failed miserably as you say, except for the season opener when it succeeded gloriously. What happened to that defense, that effort, those players ?Seems to me that they have tried to emulate the Colts D as much as any other, and they have failed miserably. Mario is no Freeney. He's probably a better all around DE whereas Freeney is a pass rusher only and is weak against the run, but truth be told when you are talking about playing some of the elite QB's in the game such as Manning twice per year, give me Freeney 10 out of 10 times.
It's all a freaking mismash of junk. It's like trying to build a corvette using a corvette engine, a rear end from a 73 Pinto and a transmission from an 85 Grand Am and expecting to have it finish first at the speedway.
I think it's more like building a sherman tank, then taking it to Daytona....
This team was built with the express purpose of stopping the run, playing down hill, & getting after the QB. Defensively, the line is built to create gaps for the line backers to flow through & play in the backfield. Mario, Cushing, & our corners were drafted to turn the run back into our LBs.
We need to get back to the aggressive, attacking defense Frank Bush put together last season. Let these guys do what they were brought here to do. Cushing, Pollard, Quin, Jackson, Diles...... they should be running over the RBs on their way to the QB.
Put Wilson to pasture, get Nolan back there, or Allen, keep your CBs facing the QB, let them jump routes, let them make a play, we're getting beat anyway.
Right now, we're backing our LBs up & focusing on stopping the passing game.
I would like to see the CBs play the pass first, and adjust to the run.
What they have been doing is not working. Let the CBs & FS play the pass and the LBs & SS play the run. And Attack! Attack! Attack!!!
But that is not how they were drafted. We drafted Quin & Jackson because of their physicality & their ability, like Dunta, to play the run.
They are not cover corners, they do not have elite speed.
We need to make sure we get pressure on the QB, we did fine last year sending 5 or 6...... we did fine in the second half of the Giants game sending 5 or 6 & the second half of the Skins game.
When we are expecting a short route, a slant, let them play close coverage. If we're sending 5 or 6, let them play close to the line, let them get their hands on the receivers, let them disrupt the timing of the play.
But when they are in long situations, You've got to play them off the line, to cover for their speed. They have to watch the QB, anticipate the routes.... make a play on the ball. The LBs/Safeties who don't go after the QB have got to do the same thing, watch the QB, fill their lanes, play the routes...
Ignore the short routes, and watch the vertical's..... use peripheral vision to watch the route behind you, & adjust to the routes..... make the QB account for you, don't let him throw a streamlined bullet to a receiver, make them use touch, make them wait for a route to open, make them wonder if you can/cannot make a play on the ball.