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Roster cuts

Cut list released 3pm tomorrow

You know, this may be a "if we don't find someone we like better" situations.

As in:
"We have our cut list finalized, unless we find someone on the wire we like soooo much they make us change the current plan."

There are probably a list of guys they've been watching that if they get waived, Smithiak snatches them up in a heartbeat.
 
I have a feeling they may cut Garrett Graham. From what I could see
from the tightends. Casey has decent hands and quickness, but he
falls down shortly after making a catch. Graham is like Owen Daniels,
but he seemed much harder to bring down. Sometimes, Graham was
pulling tacklers for an extra couple yards.

Tough cuts coming at tightend.

Do you mean cut as in "get rid of" or cut as in "try and sneak onto the practice squad"?
 

Booty, who ignited a furious second-half rally in Thursday’s 24-17 loss to Tampa Bay, is expected to be signed to the practice squad.

If this is true then this is Dan-O's last chance. Booty gets a year on the P/S to learn the system; so if Dan-O doesn't show significant improvement over the season, I think JDB will be the #2 guy coming out of the 2011 T/C.
 
If this is true then this is Dan-O's last chance. Booty gets a year on the P/S to learn the system; so if Dan-O doesn't show significant improvement over the season, I think JDB will be the #2 guy coming out of the 2011 T/C.
If there is football in 2011.
 
Yes. Fargas is on the street right now after the Broncos cut him.

Fargas was released IIRC by the Raiders because of knee problems. I believe he's coming off of a spring knee scope. His preseason did not show him much reps with something like 1 or 2 ypc. Sounds like a "Buyer beware."
 
I'm glad we cut Reeves. He was absolutely terrible for his duration here. Soft as a cushion and had the awarness of a table.
 
They hope to get him back(I think). Kubiak saying they will have 3 QBs on roster, somehow, someway(whether it be active or PS). Maybe they go in a diff. direction from JDB but who knows.
 
"Booty, 25, will be released despite setting a Texans preseason record with 207 passing yards against the Bucs on Thursday night. Kubiak said that he's confident with Dan Orlovsky as the backup to Matt Schaub, although he expects the Texans to add another quarterback soon to the roster or practice squad.

"J.D. (Booty) could be that guy," Kubiak said. "As of tomorrow, we'll be down to two. We've got other issues with our team and that's one of the things that are keeping us at that number right now."
per kubiak. Kinda sad, dint think Booty would get cut at all. Im still gonna wear the jersey. Who's got the booty?
 
I think Kubiak just said that Derrick Fine will make the team.

Said he doesn't anticipate letting go any of the TE's...All will be used...

Said he see's situations where they will use three TE sets...

Anthony Hill to PUP.
 
Kubiak said, Hill to PUP and we are essentially keeping all the TEs (Casey as an H-swingback) including Derek Fine. Looking at using 2 AND 3 TE sets this season.
 
3 TE sets would be scarry for opposing teams. Fine looked like he had some speed and catching ability. So you put out OD, Casey, And Fine, all fast, and great catching, would be very hard for opposing teams to cover em all plus have AJ lined up. Would be very hard to tell if we running, or doing a PA.
 
Let me see if I have this straight:

Owen Daniels
James Casey
Joel Dreessen
Garrett Graham
Derek Fine

PUP: Hill

So, possibly, 6 TEs on the roster? Really? I understand that we might not see Hill. 5 TEs. And that OD has injury issues, so maybe 4 TEs. But what if they are all healthy? This is a ridiculous amount. Add with a roster spot solely devoted to LS, the Texans are going to be light somewhere. And that is worrisome.
 
Let me see if I have this straight:

Owen Daniels
James Casey
Joel Dreessen
Garrett Graham
Derek Fine

PUP: Hill

So, possibly, 6 TEs on the roster? Really? I understand that we might not see Hill. 5 TEs. And that OD has injury issues, so maybe 4 TEs. But what if they are all healthy? This is a ridiculous amount. Add with a roster spot solely devoted to LS, the Texans are going to be light somewhere. And that is worrisome.

Great point. What position would you like to see us heavy in? Definaly running back. I don't see the point in being heavy in QB, unless we can get a good vet, but not likely. Saftey position we are very light at.
 
Gary Kubiak Show:

Rich and Rob here, tough day I know, how's it going?

It's toughest day in coaching. Been working with these guys and you have to tell 20 guys we're going in a different direction. We move on from here and give our guys a break this weekend.

A cat and mouse game regarding questions and who made the roster? Why?

Names arent officially released until 3 tomorrow. We know we're gonna make some moves. Sometimes try to let guys know ahead of time. I did want to give guys a break this weekend. I wouldnt have wanted it that way.

Biggest move was Brown. What led to Rackers?

It was most difficult decision. We started from scratch. It wasnt good enough last year. So we brougth Neil in who is proven. Said you're starting from scratch and make decision at the end. Close from FG perspective. Felt good Neil had good KOs - that was deciding factor. Had a great convo with Kris today but feel good with Neil.

Was foot factor?

Not for us, no. He continued to kick. Kris has had this issue on the other foot before and has kicked before. From that perspective, no, wasnt a factor.

Other big move was going young at CB. Most experienced CB is Molden. Decision to let Reeves go?

It was one way or the other. 5 or 6. We believe in these young guys. Playing well on the field and for Joe on ST. Molden did not practice. A little concerned there. Wait for him on Wednesday. We'll have to have them step up.

Gutsy decision there coach. W/L record is how you'll be judged and going young.

No doubt about that. We feel good about them. As a group, above and beyond their years. They'll get challenged but I know they'll answer.

John McClain joining us.

Smooth how you guys did that(laughing).

I thought you were gonna run away.

Gonna bring in another corner?

Gonna look at the waiver wire hard. We'll go into Sunday morning and look to improve the team in a lot of areas. CB will be one area. Will we sign one? I dont know.

How many O-linemen?

9 is the way we're going. All our T's were young. Did good things but lack of experience. Look at the wire there. Many teams struggling there at the T spot. Concerned about the depth there.

Another move made was to keep Dan as the backup and put JDB on the PS. Given his showing, concerned another team could get him?

No doubt. First Dan, going off his whole body of work, not just one game. Disappointed we turned the ball over. GOing off his progress and believe he will continue to progress. I do expect to somehow, someway get 3 QBs on the roster whether it's active or PS. You'd love for JDB to come back. He'll explore his options. Did some good things. Think he had a good time. Fit him well.

He played with some swagger.

He really did. Had to worry about more than his job. Had to work with the young guys, guys only on the team a few weeks. Real impressed how he handled himself. Almost pulled off the comeback. He's just looking for right opportunity.

GK: How about the National Anthem last night, good wasnt it?

Yeah, it was.

I read on Chron.com we are signing Derrick Ward.

We worked him and Fargas out. Signed big contract and we think he fits what we do. We'd like him.

Best guy out there or scheme?

He is a zone runner. Can play ST. We need a vet who has played some football. Arian is fine, Steve should be fine. Ward a big option for us.

If he is added, people will say he was cut by TB.

Any idea on what went wrong there?

He went there to be top guy and Cadillac has gotten healthy. Just the way it worked out. Hopefully he is right

Where does he fit in?

Catching him up on what we do. Excellent chance he suits up against the Colts. Hopefully we find a role.

Update on Jeremiah?

Gonna miss enough time that there is a concern. COuld be a good month. SOmething we have to work through. We got pressing issues there.

Some positives, you like TEs, Brian likes TE.

Been on another team with more talented TEs?

No. James and others have taken advantage of the time. Garrett and Fine made some plays last night. Has worked out well for us. OD looked good at practice today. A lot of bodies there.

You always say if you got a playmaker, gotta get on the field, looks like JC is a playmaker.

Yeah, played Tiger last night(2 TEs). James held his own last night.

[Caller]: If you had to start tomorrow, who is starting on Strongside?

Still got time, but Xavier looked good last night. Of course he is fresher. X has always been option #1. He is our guy if healthy. Otherwise Kevin. Sharpton has been working there too.

[Caller]: You comfortable with secondary and Nolan gonna get an opportunity?

Nolan has been a brightspot. Think he's capable of starting but comfortable with our Safeties. We need 'em all to grow up and play together.

Taking your calls.

[Caller]: Looking at any productive names at CB? I see you got the swagger. Keep it up.

*laughs*We're gonna sit down as staff and look at waiver wire. Gonna look at every player and see if they can help us get better. DOnt be surprised if this team makes some more moves.

More questions upcoming.

Question awhile ago, regarding Cushing, after the suspension, I bump into Allen Reid, all kinds of tech. available, does Brian have to cut off all communication?

We can talk to him and check up on him. We cant go work him out on a daily basis. Cant be at facility. We'll keep him up to date. Physically, he will have to work on his own.

Technically, someone could connect Brian through Skype?

I wish I could answer.

John: He can't do that.

It's very vague. Can talk to your players but cant physically be there with them. Brian just cant be there for a month. Though we have to stay in contact with him.

[Caller]: How will Ward improve the team?

With Derrick, hoping he gets back to form in NY where he was a valued FA. Didnt work out in TB. Cadillac got healthy. We like he is a physical runner. Can play ST. Played in big games. We need a vet. presence. Big need and Derrick gets a new opportunity. We're taking a chance but hope it pays off.

Steve Slaton turf toe?

We practice today. Steve did not practice but did run. Should be on the field Wednesday ready to go.

Johnson could miss a month, what about Henry?

He's fine. ONly back we had. We been excited with Chris from a ST standpoint. Has struggled keeping up though. We'll see what happen. I'm thinnking Chris will be apart of this team somehow, someway.

[Caller]: Since Jacoby will get a lot of time at WR, who will return?

He will get those touches too. He will start at PR. Steve will do KR. Jacoby will do both if Steve cant go.

[Caller]: Biggest surprise in TC/preseason?

Troy Nolan. As a group, the TEs. Joel playing like a starter. I think it's various people in given games. We could add 7-8 new contributing faces.

[Caller]: Find a go to guy at the GL or go off tackle or sweep or something?

Just gotta be sure we got a guy. We believe in Arian. Chance to be a guy who carries 25-30 times. See with Ward.

At DT, we know Amobi and Cody. Pecking order otherwise?

Frank has made a lot of progress. Much better player. Earl has been everything we thought he was. Will be working with those 4. Antonio can always go inside. We'll play 8 man rotation on gameday.

Will you be watching wire there or enough depth?

I dont wanna be vague but look at every position. On D-line, Bulman did a lot for us. Very flexible. Have hard time replacing him. We'll keep eyes open across the board.

[Caller]: We have so many TEs, is there any consideraion to trade someone for another position where were thin?

Many people calling us. Would we let one go? Dont think that will happen. Anthony Hill will go to PUP. Hes not ready. After that, talking about Owen, Joel, Garrett, Fine, and James. DOnt think any of them will leave our team.

[Caller]: Is Steve Slaton going to be ready?

He should be. Wont pratice until Wednesday.

[Caller]: What have you done to improve scoring in the RZ, can you go to traditional set if all else fails?

You're right. Havent been good enough. Gotta be more efficient. Gotta find more points. We are a zone scheme. We do some counter. We'll stay committed to what we're doing. GOtta make the little plays. The RZ a big difference between winning and losing.

Last night in the game, the NFL announces regarding the ref, the ref will go back to old position at 5 minute mark of halves. Its a safety issue isnt it?

Yeah. Been hit too much, too many collisions. Change for everyone. I think we'll adjust fine. If you're in a game, down 17, trying to pick up tempo, that might be hard to do.

They might want to put hockey helmets on the umps, in all seriousness.

Yeah, I guess thats a suggestion. You got guys who are 21-30 year old who are great athletes and older refs. They're just gonna get caught in there.

[Caller]: Latest on Schobel? Interested or..?

No he has not been picked up. He and Bill Kolar are good friends. As of right now, nothing will happen. We're moving forward and go from there. Aaron a great player, person. PRobably a matter of what he wants to do. We gotta move forward though.

You feel good about Barwin taking it to next level?

He has played well. A little beat up last week. We wanted to see him a little last night. Played well. Getting to be better down in, down out player.

Have seen him with hand off the ground.

Talk about who takes Cushing's spot. There are some times where Connor is lined up in that spot.

Caldwell lone starter out there. Lastest there?

Both did their job. Neither dominated the spot, so no starter. We'll name starter later in the week as we head into the Colts. We could use a rotation into Week 1.

Busy day, probably least fav. as you mentioned. Appreciate it.

Alright, thanks guys.

Thanks Gary.
 
Great point. What position would you like to see us heavy in? Definaly running back. I don't see the point in being heavy in QB, unless we can get a good vet, but not likely. Saftey position we are very light at.

Yeah, runningback possibly. OL, DL. Positions that use rotations more than one or two players (usually). This is just puzzling to me.
 
I would not mind trading OD for something.

As much as I like him and what he brings to the game, I think that we'd be fine (no pun intended) with what we have.

Plus if trading OD can make us stronger at a position like DT, DB, or interior OL, I'd do it in a heartbeat...
 
At DT, we know Amobi and Cody. Pecking order otherwise?

Frank has made a lot of progress. Much better player. Earl has been everything we thought he was. Will be working with those 4. Antonio can always go inside. We'll play 8 man rotation on gameday.

This is the part I'm excited to hear! If they go to a true 8 man rotation, that means no more ridiculous snap counts for Mario & Amobi! That will lead to good things for that line! :fans:
 
I would not mind trading OD for something.

As much as I like him and what he brings to the game, I think that we'd be fine (no pun intended) with what we have.

Plus if trading OD can make us stronger at a position like DT, DB, or interior OL, I'd do it in a heartbeat...

Don't know if I would be that quick to trade OD. Just depends on the value we get and if we have to see him during the season. I would go for packaging a couple like dreeson and casey to spruce up our O-Line. epecially if we could get solid starter out of it.
 
Don't know if I would be that quick to trade OD. Just depends on the value we get and if we have to see him during the season. I would go for packaging a couple like dreeson and casey to spruce up our O-Line. epecially if we could get solid starter out of it.

Acvcording to Kubiak a lot of teams have been calling about the TE's but he doesn't see them trading any of them.

But the only reason I mentioned trading OD is because it seems like he wants a really big contract...
 
Acvcording to Kubiak a lot of teams have been calling about the TE's but he doesn't see them trading any of them.

But the only reason I mentioned trading OD is because it seems like he wants a really big contract...

You make a point there. We have a top 5 tight end in my mind in Owen. But if he has injury issues so is always a question mark, how can we pay him top 5 money.
Since you put it that way, it makes more sence. I guess we will see what happens this season because I know the team wont want to give up on him yet, (I would'nt either) but if baby owen comes into his own, get something for OD while you can.
 
The Texans plan to sign Henry and Booty to the eight-player practice squad that can be established on Sunday.

The Texans waived running back Jeremiah Johnson, their second-leading rusher in preseason who suffered a dislocated toe in Thursday’s 24-17 loss to Tampa Bay. They will reach an injury settlement with him and could bring him back to the practice squad.


Receiver Andre Davis (hip) was placed on injured reserve. Second-year tight end Anthony Hill, who is still recovering from major knee surgery, was placed on physically unable to perform. He can be activated after the sixth week of the season or placed on injured reserve. Also placed on waivers were fullback Jack Corcoran, tight end Derek Fine, linebacker Isaiah Greenhouse, center Brett Helms, offensive tackle Steve Maneri, cornerback Mark Parson, linebacker Will Patterson, offensive tackle Cole Pemberton, defensive tackle DelJuan Robinson, defensive tackle Malcolm Sheppard, offensive tackle Adam Stenovich, receiver Derrick Townsel, defensive tackle Mitch Unrein, center Chris White, receiver Bobby Williams and safety Torri Williams.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7185742.html

Some interesting things to me:

Johnson waived
TE Derek Fine waived(although not too surprising)
DT's Robinson, Sheppard waived
C White waived
 
Acvcording to Kubiak a lot of teams have been calling about the TE's but he doesn't see them trading any of them.

But the only reason I mentioned trading OD is because it seems like he wants a really big contract...

All he wanted is to be paid where he & his agent have him slotted against comparables around the league. Owen doesn't strike me as a greedy, selfish me first athlete.
 
Let's see if I can put this together:

QB: Matt Schaub, Dan Orlovsky
RB: Arian Foster, Steve Slaton, Derrick Ward
FB: Vonta Leach
WR: Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, David Anderson, Dorin Dickerson
TE: Owen Daniels, James Casey, Joel Dreessen, Garrett Graham
T: Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Rashad Butler
G: Wade Smith, Mike Briesel, Shelley Smith, Antoine Caldwell, Kasey Studdard
C: Chris Myers

DE: Mario Williams, Antonio Smith, Connor Barwin, Jesse Nading, Tim Jamison
DT: Shaun Cody, Amobi Okoye, Earl Mitchell, Frank Okam
LB: (Brian Cushing-Roster exemption), Danny Clark, Xavier Adibi, Darryl Sharpton, Zac Diles, Kevin Bentley, DeMeco Ryans
CB: Kareem Jackson, Glover Quin, Brice McCain, Antwuan Molden, Sherrick McManis
S: Bernard Pollard, Dom. Barber, Troy Nolan, Eugene Wilson

K: Neil Rackers
P: Matt Turk
LS: Jon Weeks

Only 50 if I counted right.

Anthony Hill to PUP
Andre Davis to IR
 
Let's see if I can put this together:

QB: Matt Schaub, Dan Orlovsky
RB: Arian Foster, Steve Slaton, Derrick Ward
FB: Vonta Leach
WR: Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, David Anderson, Dorin Dickerson
TE: Owen Daniels, James Casey, Joel Dreessen, Garrett Graham
T: Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Rashad Butler
G: Wade Smith, Mike Briesel, Shelley Smith, Antoine Caldwell, Kasey Studdard
C: Chris Myers

DE: Mario Williams, Antonio Smith, Connor Barwin, Jesse Nading, Tim Jamison
DT: Shaun Cody, Amobi Okoye, Earl Mitchell, Frank Okam
LB: (Brian Cushing-Roster exemption), Danny Clark, Xavier Adibi, Darryl Sharpton, Zac Diles, Kevin Bentley
CB: Kareem Jackson, Glover Quin, Brice McCain, Antwuan Molden, Sherrick McManis
S: Bernard Pollard, Dom. Barber, Troy Nolan, Eugene Wilson

K: Neil Rackers
P: Matt Turk
LS: Jon Weeks

Only 50 if I counted right.

Anthony Hill to PUP
Andre Davis to IR

Looks right to me. I guess they are looking to pick up a couple people from the waiver wire? Lot of young players got the axe, going to be interesting to see who gets the PS call, and to see who will be claimed by other teams.
 
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