gary
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Yhea, I was just kind of talking about this in chatting.
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Foster starting RB
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
After watching last season's miserable Red Zone performance by our center, if he has to be in there at all, we wouldn't be any worse off putting Leach in there at Center and letting Myers try to run ihis butt in there.
After watching last season's miserable Red Zone performance by our center, if he has to be in there at all, we wouldn't be any worse off putting Leach in there at Center and letting Myers try to run ihis butt in there.
Have we ever seen our Redzone numbers from 2009?
Agreed.
I can see them not wanting to put the ball in the hands of someone not used to carrying it, but at the same time I think that is may atleast catch the defesne somewhat off guard and just add more versatility and randomness to our redzone offense.
I think he's talking about using Leach in the redzone close to the goal line or in short yardage situations...
I doubt that the Texans use a lot of zone blocking when they need a yard or two for first or touch downs...
If they are, that would explain why they have been so terrible...
drewmar74
disgruntled
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I have no problem with him taking the occasional surprise play role but it seems like folks have been advocating him in a larger role. That I don't agree with.
This.
gary
Hall of Fame
Not really a larger role just here or there when the D is not couning on it.
Well, for the sake of having a good draft, lets hope it is not number 3. I think this is one of the better things that could have happened honestly. Foster will give Tate some time to really get into the swing of things in the NFL and we will not loose any ground during that time. Then, no matter who wins the starting job by the time the post season rolls around (see what I did there), we will have a solid back up in case the worst happens and someone gets injured. It is always good to have depth at RB.
It has also been shown lately that a 3 headed RBBC is possible and can be very productive. The giants had 2 1k rushers, and bradshaw still had around 500 yards I want to say. Granted, we probably will not run anywhere near as much as they did, but it just goes to show we can give everyone the ball and use the strengths of all of our RBs.
It has also been shown lately that a 3 headed RBBC is possible and can be very productive. The giants had 2 1k rushers, and bradshaw still had around 500 yards I want to say. Granted, we probably will not run anywhere near as much as they did, but it just goes to show we can give everyone the ball and use the strengths of all of our RBs.
This guy definately deserves the starting spot the way he finished last season. Apparently he is impressing in camp as well building off that strong finish.
I think we're in for good things this year if Arian Foster has the starting role locked with the rest of the talent in the backfield.
We've seen what Slaton can do, we know what Tate did in college and the upside on him is tremendous. If Foster does his thing......we have that triple headed monster in the backfield that seems to be oh so successful in the NFL right now.
So I revert, if Foster is outshining the other two then we are in great shape...................
...................or are we...............I guess it depends on which you look at it.
Im a glass half full kind of guy myself.
I think we're in for good things this year if Arian Foster has the starting role locked with the rest of the talent in the backfield.
We've seen what Slaton can do, we know what Tate did in college and the upside on him is tremendous. If Foster does his thing......we have that triple headed monster in the backfield that seems to be oh so successful in the NFL right now.
So I revert, if Foster is outshining the other two then we are in great shape...................
...................or are we...............I guess it depends on which you look at it.
Im a glass half full kind of guy myself.
If Foster is nothing more than what we saw last year... pedestrian, but productive, and Kubiak sticks with him as our starter, I can't see how Slaton, Foster, and Tate won't try to make the most of every snap they get. Whether it is blocking, receiving, running, or decoying.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
TK, I really had to dig for any info on Red Zone numbers. But here they are for 2008 and 2009, with some additional breakdown 2009 info. Look especially how we fared with the rest of our division in all parameters.
TEAM RANKINGS
Why, this is my happy time....
The RZ% of the last three games look pretty damn damning...
I appreciate you finding this, but perhaps this should be another thread. I see a whole lot of stuff in there, I'd like to talk about.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Great comparison site, isn't it?
barrett
All Pro
Glad the Texans are starting to know what I've known since Madden 09 came out.
Foster as my starter. Slaton as my change up back.
If anyone plays on ps3, and thinks they have game, I'll be happy to crush ya!
Not to mention Okoye is a monster and Pollard ... is not. (in the video game that is.) Quinn is a playmaker too in that game.
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Barrett, we are going to need an XBox/PSIII for the RV this year!! Have you made those arrangements yet?
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Nah, just a handful of carries the entire year. While I DO think he can get us that infamous yard that was so damning for us this past season, I'd rather see him delivering pancake blocks to those that dare step into his path.
Maybe as many times as we see that dadgum reverse that hardly ever works any more.
gary
Hall of Fame
I agree. And maybe have him run a short little out route in the Red Zone.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
We've done that. He has 4 receiving TD's as a Texan.
gary
Hall of Fame
How many tries?
badboy
Hall of Fame
"What you talking about, Willis?" in rememberance of the late Gary Coleman.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Not aware of any stat for running a route in the red zone. Leach has definitely been part of their red zone passing though.
gary
Hall of Fame
How many times has Leach been thrown to in the Red Zone?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I'm not aware of a source that tracks attempts by yardage like that. My recollection is he has called most if not all the balls thrown to him in the red zone. Seems like most of his drops have been on our side of the 50. But that's just an impression.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Just looked through Leach's games one by one:
2007-1 rushing attempt in the RZ for 1 yd led to TD (Denver/Dec.); only 1 other non-RZ rushing attempt all year
2008-1 rushing attempt in the RZ for 1 yd led to TD (Oakland/Dec.); no other rushing attempts all year.
2009-no rushing attempts at all.
BTW, Green Bay never rushed him.
2007-1 rushing attempt in the RZ for 1 yd led to TD (Denver/Dec.); only 1 other non-RZ rushing attempt all year
2008-1 rushing attempt in the RZ for 1 yd led to TD (Oakland/Dec.); no other rushing attempts all year.
2009-no rushing attempts at all.
BTW, Green Bay never rushed him.
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gary
Hall of Fame
So, basically in 2007 and 2008 he convered his chanes.
CloakNNNdagger
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Please note my correction in 2008...........there was only 1 RZ attempt (no other attempts).
gary
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Oh, ok.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
beerlover
Hall of Fame
I'll admit it was tough when I first started posting when Arian was a freshman at Tennessee. The UT fan base is very very passionate. But over the years, I learned not to take it too personally. It seems there are three types of posters on any message board....1) those who will try to kiss my arse because I'm Arian's mom, 2) those who will try to be combative because I'm Arian's mom and 3) those who just want to be civil and talk about football.
What you will find with me is I can usually take criticism pretty well. If I feel the need, I just step away from the computer! I know people get emotional about their team and this game so I understand it. I just think if it's all done fairly and as accurately as possible, it works. I enjoy a good healthy debate; I just don't like cheap shots.
In any case, I'm sure we'll be just fine.
Not just being a suck up, but negative posts targeting a specific player are callous. I suppose we're all quilty from time to time (nobody is perfect in heat of battle) but before posting something negative put yourself in the other guys shoes (players families too) how would you feel if someone was ripping you a new one while trying your best? Injurys are particualy frustrating because they are out of your control. I know a couple Texans players & families so I understand this dynamic, its not about sucking up its about being honest, fair, yet loyal. Best luck to Arian, yourself & family.
BL
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Ckw
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Well when I met Arian at All Access last year, I told him I expected him to come in and be apart of a 1-2 punch with Slaton. He seemed a bit shy about it as hardly anyone was going up to talk to him or get him to sign anything. Glad to see he is really showing something this year.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
Has this interview been posted yet?
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/q_and_a.asp?Q_AND_A_ID=80
Reading that and his twitter page has made me an Arian Foster fan. It's nice to see a professional athlete actually sound like he's well educated.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/q_and_a.asp?Q_AND_A_ID=80
Reading that and his twitter page has made me an Arian Foster fan. It's nice to see a professional athlete actually sound like he's well educated.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
And with that, the Doctor Samkon Gado memories come rushing back. Give me a RB. I don't care what his reading level is. As long as he's able to secure, advance, and punch the rock in. It's football, not an English composition class.
FWIW, I like Arian Foster but I'm not going to bet the farm on him. Not that I'm down on Foster but I'm too leery of the Texan's motives here...
drs23
Veteran
I'm not betting the farm on him either but sure liked what I saw when he had the "rock". GK might be have run him with the 1s during OTAs because he was there by default at the end of the season, or maybe he just is one of the 1s.
EDIT What are the Texans motives here?
To put the best team possible on the field. Slaton is hurt, Tate is hurt. Who else should be running with the 1's? Henry?
drs23
Veteran
What motives?
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
Maybe motives wasn't the best word to use but to put it this way... our running game has always struggled. DDW got all those yards by default. He was decent but c'mon now, let's not enshrine him within the greats. Kubiak has a tendency to stick with the assigned hand rather than go with the "hot" hand.
Then we got all this injury lying thing done by the Texans and their RBs over the years. We have 2 high profile RBs injured right now in Slaton and Tate.
hadaad
Rookie
I'm going to have to disagree with you, Nitrohonda. Last year proved that you can't get five yards a carry by default. And our passing game was awesome last year.
When DDW was getting all those yards, our passing game was pathetic. They didn't have to respect anyone on that offense except AJ and DDW and Domanick still did the job.
He went out with a whimper, but Davis/Williams was a very good double threat when he played.
When DDW was getting all those yards, our passing game was pathetic. They didn't have to respect anyone on that offense except AJ and DDW and Domanick still did the job.
He went out with a whimper, but Davis/Williams was a very good double threat when he played.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
i've said it all along, i liked him coming out despite having a down senior year & i like him in our backfield. Honestly i would prefer him & Tate to be our 1-2 punch in the running game & let Slaton be our 3rd down reggie bush-like decoy spread out wide or in motion out of the slot. we could then use him instead of Walter on those little toss sweeps in the red zone that kubes likes so much.
With Jacoby Jones, David Anderson, and this Dickerson guy, not to mention OD, Dresson, & Casey... I don't want to see a RB, or Vontae Leach split out wide.
But I hope Foster starts at the beginning of the season. With Slaton having to prove he can hold the rock, and Tate being the new guy, I'd rather they flat out beat him for the spot during the regular season, when it counts. I think all three would give 100% every snap in this configuration.