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Kareem Jackson CB Alabama - 1st round pick

Honoring Earl 34 said:
To me , Matthews and Tate were pretty much the same player . If that's the case then they way overpaid , besides I'll take the guy from the better conference .
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The last time we took a slick-looking football player from Fresno State...a bunch of people were crowing about how the guy had never played in a big game and hadn't really been challenged by playing at Fresno State.

I was one of the people who said "Aw, it don't matter where you play. He'll be fine. Just needs time."

Well, the Texans got what they wanted when they drafted David Carr. Fans didn't.

Granted, there might be a better work ethic with Mathews. There might be a better character and behavioral pattern with Mathews. Tomlinson played at TCU, which wasn't exactly competing for an NCAA title while he was there.

But fate is fickle. I can't dispute that we might've, sort of, possibly had our focus on taking Mathews in round 1. But as someone else has pointed out, is it reasonable to think that Smithiak didn't allow for the very real possibility that Mathews was going to be gone by pick 20 in round 1? Absolutely they calculated that he could be gone.

But at least it happened EARLY and not right before us. It gave them time to circle the wagons and hammer out their Plan B scenario.

Jackson and Tate, IMO, became the Plan B scenario. That's my theory. And maybe fate, because she is so very fickle, will shine on us. I hope so.
 
fast rising Junior but he is 22 so kinda of misleading. question is how he will fare against top flight NFL WR's? still taking a top quality CB in the 1st is smart buisness.
 
JB said:
Dude you really need to get over yourself.* I was asking questions. I never caled Saban scum.** I just don't like him myself. My perogative. I really don't give a **** about the liitle slime ball.*** I think he is a great coach that has the personality of a weasel.**** JMO. You don't agree that is fine, I don'tcare. i don't care about Nick Saban or Alabama at all.
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* I'd ask you what you're talking about, but you don't seem to know.

** And I never said you did. Why you need to point that out, I can't fathom.

*** Okay, now you did. Link?

**** Link?

I'll give you the benefit of doubt here & just assume that you're drunk or something, because you seem to be replying to things I didn't even type...
 
Allstar said:
Say what you want about Nick Saban, but at least he didn't quit on his team mid-season like Petrino...
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Apparently that would have been the better choice. He did the right thing by waiting until the end of the season to even talk to Alabama about taking the position, yet the media, like Dan LeBastard crucified him for it. Hopefully if you read this you won't imagine seeing a bunch of stuff I didn't even type.
 
Crimson14Tide said:
* I'd ask you what you're talking about, but you don't seem to know.

** And I never said you did. Why you need to point that out, I can't fathom.

*** Okay, now you did. Link?

**** Link?
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OK.

I probably shouldn't get in the middle of this because... I really don't care about Nick Saban or college football coaches or anything like that.

But... that's never stopped me from getting into the middle of these things before...

Lots of people think Nick Saban is scummy because of things that he's said to the press and the way he has exited his jobs.

When he was at LSU, people started hearing that he was interested in the Miami Dolphin HC position and reporters started asking him about it. He said that he was not interested in that position and that he didn't want to talk about those rumors. I think he may have even excluded certain reports/newspapers from coming to his press conferences.

Then he went to the Dolphins. After a year and a half there, he started having second thoughts about the NFL and he started making overtures to Alabama (or Alabama started making overtures to him.) Reporters heard rumors and started asking him about it and he got pissed off, told them that there was absolutely no truth to the rumors, yadda yadda. Over and over. And then he left for Alabama.

LSU and Dolphin fans (and many others who aren't Dolphin or LSU fans) consider him scum because of that.

Because of this, he's considered by many people to be a step or two above Petrino but in the same league.

I will now try to exit this discussion.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
OK.

I probably shouldn't get in the middle of this because... I really don't care about Nick Saban or college football coaches or anything like that.

But... that's never stopped me from getting into the middle of these things before...

Lots of people think Nick Saban is scummy because of things that he's said to the press and the way he has exited his jobs.

When he was at LSU, people started hearing that he was interested in the Miami Dolphin HC position and reporters started asking him about it. He said that he was not interested in that position and that he didn't want to talk about those rumors. That's fine, but why do people pretend that every single coach in history hasn't done the same thing? Can anyone point out when a coach said, "Yeah, I'm outta here the next chance I get!" I think he may have even excluded certain reports/newspapers from coming to his press conferences.

Then he went to the Dolphins. After a year and a half there, he started having second thoughts about the NFL and he started making overtures to Alabama (or Alabama started making overtures to him.) Alabama to him. Reporters heard rumors and started asking him about it and he got pissed off, told them that there was absolutely no truth to the rumors, yadda yadda. And at the time, it was true. He told Alabama he had no interest in leaving the Dolphins at all & didn't want to even talk about it. Mal Moore (Thank God) kept pressing & finally Jimmy Sexton (CNS's agent) convinced him to at least listen to Moore. CNS agreed, but only after the season was over. (What a bastard) Over and over. And then he left for Alabama. After receiving Wayne Hyzenga's (Dolphins owner, I have no idea how to spell it) blessing. In other words, if Wayne had just said, "Nick, please stay. You're doing horrible & we love it!" Then Alabama would not have him.

LSU and Dolphin fans (and many others who aren't Dolphin or LSU fans) consider him scum because of that. This is half incorrect. I have a few friends that are LSU fans & post on a CFB board with a lot of them. They really did not care about him going to the Dolphins except for they of course wanted him to stay because he's the best HC in CFB. They just weren't mad at him because taking an NFL HCing job is just plain duh.

Because of this, he's considered by many people to be a step or two above Petrino but in the same league.

I will now try to exit this discussion.
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Screw Saben...

He's a great (college) football coach, but as a person he lacks integrity. He didn't check out half way through the season like Petrino did, but he still checked out all the same. When the going got tough, Saben packed up and left.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Screw Saben...

He's a great (college) football coach, but as a person he lacks integrity. He didn't check out half way through the season like Petrino did, but he still checked out none the less.
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See? This is what I'm talking about. People actually seem to think Nick Saban is the only coach in history to take another job. Never mind the thousands of other coaches who did the exact same thing. I certainly don't recall Darth Visor being called scum because he also realized he was not cut out for the NFL. Gee, I wonder why that is?

I guess it's safe to say the guy who posted above has never quit a job in his life to take a better/higher paying/make him happier one.

Hey, I'm all for calling Nick Saban a scumbag.....the second anyone on Earth can prove it. So far, no one bothers trying....well, not with the truth anyway.

I just realized.....Pete Carrol is scum! WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT AWARE OF THIS?!????!!?!?!!?? LaFF LaFF LaFF
 
I think Saban is the type of guy who is highly ambitious, works extremely hard at his job, loves his job immeasurably, but struggles with his addiction to his job.

He conquered NCAA at LSU, next step: Dolphins and the NFL.

After being brought back down to earth, a string of events took place where the stars aligned and he found a way to get back to the business of being a winner.

Dolphins owner permitted it. Even he saw that Saban was sinking, and there was no point in keeping him from his appointment with coaching NCAA football again. You can't reasonably desire to keep someone (Saban) who is miserable AND not able to make your Dolphins team better than before.

Win-win situation for all involved.

I won't excuse Saban's faults as a person. But no man, nor coach, is perfect. A lot of the problem people have with Saban is either (a) envy of what he has accomplished, and that he hasn't accomplished it with THEIR team, or (b) that there is some sort of "moral obligation" code he's broken in the eyes of fans who hold loyalty to college recruits at the highest ranking of what a college coach should strive to embody.

And it's human nature to try (consciously or even on a subconscious level maybe) and wag a finger at Saban's breaking of the moral code when, deep down inside of the accusing person, he's really just bitter that Saban wins where he goes (in college ball) and that "Gee whiz, how does MY team not get Saban so we can win a damn title here!" I'm not pointing fingers at anybody here, I'm just sayin' that a lot of times we can say we hold position B when we really hold position A.

Having said all of that, a football message board is not a good place for everyone to try and reach 100% agreement upon things as subjective as organized sports and its mind-numbing affect on our minds. This concludes a test of the emergency message board intervention system, if this had been a real intervention...a message board moderator would have contacted involved parties. Good night, and God bless. Stay classy, San Diego!

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Crimson14Tide said:
See? This is what I'm talking about. People actually seem to think Nick Saban is the only coach in history to take another job. Never mind the thousands of other coaches who did the exact same thing. I certainly don't recall Darth Visor being called scum because he also realized he was not cut out for the NFL. Gee, I wonder why that is?

I guess it's safe to say the guy who posted above has never quit a job in his life to take a better/higher paying/make him happier one.

Hey, I'm all for calling Nick Saban a scumbag.....the second anyone on Earth can prove it. So far, no one bothers trying....well, not with the truth anyway.
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LOL, did I ever say Saben is "the only guy to take another job"? He's just one of the only guys to dump his team one year removed from a decent season. He obviously couldn't handle the fact that unlike the NCAA, the NFL is a highly competitive league where you're going to have peaks and valleys...Saben can't handle the valleys

Dude the NFL isn't the NCAA.......you need to recognize that. When you sign a NFL contract you need to be obligated to that team longer than one good year. As soon as things got hairy for Saben he ducked the hell out and ran back to the NCAA.

Second your opinion doesn't hold much weight when it's apparent the only reason why you joined this board is because we drafted YOUR PLAYER.........don't be that guy (don't be the guy who strictly posts on all things Kareem Jackson and Alabama football...this is a NFL MESSAGE BOARD, we don't give a crap about your school), and it's apparent that you're being that guy. The NFL is the big boy league and Saben couldn't or wasn't willing to step up or accept the responsibilities of the "big boy" league. Instead he lied and ran back to the NCAA and hid. He should of never tried to elevate himself to a NFL coach, if he wasn't willing to deal with the failure that comes alone with being a NFL coach. He was scared of failure and took off at the first sign that he might actually become that at this level...end of story and no need for sugar coating what happened.
 
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Finally, a realistic view from someone. I'm all for throwing stones at Saban for *gasp* taking another job. But let's throw stones at all coaches who do it....which would be all of them....not just single one guy out. I never hear anyone whine & cry about Mike Holmgreen, Bill Parcells, Mack Brown, or any other coaches who did the same thing Saban did. Consistency, people....consistency. Also, reading comprehension is good too!
 
Crimson14Tide said:
Finally, a realistic view from someone. I'm all for throwing stones at Saban for *gasp* taking another job. But let's throw stones at all coaches who do it....which would be all of them....not just single one guy out. I never hear anyone whine & cry about Mike Holmgreen, Bill Parcells, Mack Brown, or any other coaches who did the same thing Saban did. Consistency, people....consistency. Also, reading comprehension is good too!
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LMAO All the coaches you listed above left for BETTER JOBS/more control and were winners at the last job they held.....they aren't even comparable to the situation with Saben.

Homgren wanted full FO control.....he got that in Seattle.

Parcells wanted the same thing and was a winner at every stop he was at so he didn't duck out when the kitchen got hot.

Mack Brown has been coaching at Texas for how long now? God forbid if Texas might be a step up over NC LOL.

Saben took a NFL coaching job with one of the best franchises and when the going got tough he walked back down to a level below. What Saben did isn't even comparable to the coaches you listed above. Stop being a Alabama homer.....are you just a Alabama fan or a legit Texans' fan? Again this isn't a college message board, we don't give a crap about NCAA football in this forum. If Saben wanted the Alabama job he could of had it when he left LSU...he tested the NFL waters and then ran, that's not remotely comparable to what the coaches did above.
 
There's no need to "Sugar coat" (ie: tell the truth), but there is a need to lie & greatly exaggerate....there's some rock solid reasoning. :lol:

Also, you can try to tell me what to do....but you'll just fail every time.
 
Crimson14Tide said:
There's no need to "Sugar coat" (ie: tell the truth), but there is a need to lie & greatly exaggerate....there's some rock solid reasoning. :lol:

Also, you can try to tell me what to do....but you'll just fail every time.
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what are you talking about. If you're "telling the truth" then tell me where I was wrong. I'll save you time......you can't. Saben ran out on the NFL, he didn't get a better job or more control (like the other coaches that you listed and shouldn't compare Saben too). He failed as a NFL coach and tucked tail when the **** got hot. Seeing your join date it's obvious that you're one of those annoying fans that signs up on message boards everywhere just because of a player they drafted. You aren't even a real Houston Texans' fan. Hell anybody could pull up your post history and see all you've post about is Alabama.....newsflash, this isn't a Alabama message board.
 
"He's just one of the only guys to dump his team one year removed from a decent season."

You have NO clue what you're talking about in ANY of your post. NONE. I don't know what low-ass standards you're judging this by but, 6-10 is certainly not a decent season, and 9-7 with no playoffs isn't either. You apparently think he coached a third season, I'm guessing. But no, two bad seasons was it.

"He obviously couldn't handle the fact that unlike the NCAA, the NFL is a highly competitive league...."

There is no response to such a statement.

"Second your opinion doesn't hold much weight when it's apparent the only reason why you joined this board is because we drafted YOUR PLAYER.........don't be that guy (don't be the guy who strictly posts on all things Kareem Jackson and Alabama football"

Read my previous posts. That would have helped tremendously.

"LMAO All the coaches you listed above left for BETTER JOBS/more control and were winners at the last job they held.....they aren't even comparable to the situation with Saben."

First of all, the absurdly short list of examples I gave were only four of thousands. Not all of those coaches quit jobs to go to "better" ("better" is subjective, BTW as I'm sure you were unaware of that) jobs. Seeing as CNS & Darth Visor are college coaches, I'm sure they're two excellent examples of people who would probably view MOST college HCing jobs as "better" than the Dolphins or Redskins jobs.

"If Saben wanted the Alabama job he could of had it when he left LSU...he tested the NFL waters and then ran, that's not remotely comparable to what the coaches did above. "

Much like everything else, you've just decided to speculate instead of know.

"If you're "telling the truth" then tell me where I was wrong. I'll save you time......you can't. Saben ran out on the NFL, he didn't get a better job or more control (like the other coaches that you listed and shouldn't compare Saben too)"

More speculation. You have no idea if Saban got a "better" (remember how "better" is subjective) job or more control or not. It's beyond obvious (to anyone who would check, read, or listen instead of just speculating) that he has more control. I'd also be willing to bet my bottom dollar that he thinks he has a "better" job now. Oh, & of course he "ran" out of the NFL. It's all because he's a big coward & was scared to death. It can't POSSIBLY be any other reason at all.

"Seeing your join date it's obvious that you're one of those annoying fans that signs up on message boards everywhere just because of a player they drafted."

Seriously, every single word you post is pure speculation/opinion. NOTHING you have posted can be backed up with ANY facts AT ALL. NOTHING! First MSG board I ever joined in my life, 2005. Just a board that had forums for everything & I mainly stick with CFB. Second MSG board I ever joined. This one after being a Texans semi-fan since Demeco Ryans was drafted.....& I hate the Cowboys, sans George Teague.


So, basically....you can take all your speculation, lies, misinformation, misplaced jealousy/hatred, & ignorance....& go **** yourself with a rusty, flaming, badly misshapen crowbar, you dumb ass, ignorant....wait, let me speculate some....you're a fan of a team in Texas....oh, you're "obviously" some wife beater wearing, alcoholic, toothless, gun-psycho redneck. Hey, that was kinda fun....I guess I see why do you it, but God, it's overkill when you do it every single post.


You know, I asked what I did about Saban because I noticed that someone mentioned earlier that he was "scum" &, of course much like yourself could not/refused to offer any evidence to support his claim. I made the obviously massive mistake of asking to anyone if they knew of any evidence (that wasn't rumor/lies/misinformation) to back up that claim because of the combination of he's my coach & the fact that as a person who actually read/listened to interviews with Saban/His Agent/Dolphins owner, I knew a lot the truth & of course already know that no one would be able to provide evidence/facts that don't exist.

Completely my fault to be honest.
 
Bottom line:

If the person who was "wronged" does not think they were "wronged", then the person who "wronged" them did no "wrong". But when you hear a rumor that Saban left a post-it note on WH's (Dolphins owner) door that says, "I quit, sucka!!!1!!!11!!eleven!!!" & don't bother to find out that WH actually told Saban that it was perfectly fine for him to leave AND that Saban would have stayed if WH had SIMPLY ASKED HIM TO, then go slamming away at your keyboard with all your misinformation....someone who actually knows what happened is going to think you're an ignorant fool, you ignorant fool.

Now, I'm done derailing the thread. Are you?
 
LOL, this is becoming a joke......You join as soon as we draft Jackson and then try to act like your decision to register to this board has NOTHING to do with drafting Jackson.

Then you jump on everybody who thinks Saben is a turd (and he is BTW..he was a complete TURD in the NFL) and then want everybody to believe that you're not just a "Alabama fan"...when pretty much every post you've contributed so far has to do with Alabama and nothing has to do with the actual Texans. :rake:

Whatever.....again if you want to be a Texans fan then do so...we'll gladly except you, but don't try to sign up on here and preach everything "ALABAMA" because people here don't give a crap about that school or college football in general. This thread is about Sunday's and unlike you we can separate the difference between Sundays and Saturdays. Again this is a NFL message board.

P.S.

LMAO at you climbing the walls in Saben's honor typing crap like this...

So, basically....you can take all your speculation, lies, misinformation, misplaced jealousy/hatred, & ignorance....& go **** yourself with a rusty, flaming, badly misshapen crowbar, you dumb ass, ignorant....wait, let me speculate some....you're a fan of a team in Texas....oh, you're "obviously" some wife beater wearing, alcoholic, toothless, gun-psycho redneck.
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Wow, just wow.....I don't even know what to say. :spit: Oh lord.
 
Crimson14Tide said:
Finally, a realistic view from someone. I'm all for throwing stones at Saban for *gasp* taking another job. But let's throw stones at all coaches who do it....which would be all of them....not just single one guy out. I never hear anyone whine & cry about Mike Holmgreen, Bill Parcells, Mack Brown, or any other coaches who did the same thing Saban did. Consistency, people....consistency. Also, reading comprehension is good too!
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Hold on there, Buster Brown. I only did what we are all supposed to be doing: making this about the issues.

If I were to weigh in on personal matters, I would say that you're getting carried away with defending someone you don't even personally have a relationship with (Saban). You're not exactly making a graceful entry into this message board. And your screen name and posts thus far indicate you possibly are a 'Bama fan first. We all have our favorite college, but you're getting overly offended on this deal.

That's what I would say if I weighed in on the personal matters here. But I won't do that because I don't want to hijack this thread. :)
 
Crimson14Tide said:
Bottom line:

If the person who was "wronged" does not think they were "wronged", then the person who "wronged" them did no "wrong". But when you hear a rumor that Saban left a post-it note on WH's (Dolphins owner) door that says, "I quit, sucka!!!1!!!11!!eleven!!!" & don't bother to find out that WH actually told Saban that it was perfectly fine for him to leave AND that Saban would have stayed if WH had SIMPLY ASKED HIM TO, then go slamming away at your keyboard with all your misinformation....someone who actually knows what happened is going to think you're an ignorant fool, you ignorant fool.

Now, I'm done derailing the thread. Are you?
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Dude I don't know what you problem is. But your high post & rep count don't really hurt when you neg rep me for "attacking me for no apparant reason". But if that is the way you want to roll, that's fine. You will not like this board. Now just go away troll! :pissed:
 
Crimson14Tide:

Let me help you out here.

It's the culture of this board to NOT give out negative rep when you fall into disagreements with other people on here. What IS acceptable, in terms of giving out neg rep, is to give it to someone who is misusing the rep system. In addition, just being a bit turd'ish (in general, about everything) is a good way to get neg rep'd here.

If you want to put someone on notice, privately, you send them a private message or you give them POSITIVE rep and then type in the comment box what it is that makes your undies get into a bunch about him/her.

Every board is different. This one is pretty subdued and generous, and you can build long-term affiliations on here if you just calm down and think things through a bit.

But it seems like you're trying to come in here, and for lack of a better phrase "boil the ocean" with your attempts to make certain people admire Saban and not say anything bad about him. Good luck with boiling the ocean...let me know when it's there.

If you are a Texans fan, then spread out your comments a bit...don't focus on just the threads that deal with a 'Bama player. Not saying you haven't been to other threads, but am saying that we can all get bogged down in our own little world(s) and not know what else is going on around here.

Welcome to the board, and I hope you stick around. Over time, if you do, you will learn how this board functions in terms of the culture that exists here.
 
JB said:
Dude I don't know what you problem is. But your high post & rep count don't really hurt when you neg rep me for "attacking me for no apparant reason". But if that is the way you want to roll, that's fine. You will not like this board. Now just go away troll! :pissed:
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LOL I told him the same thing when I negative repped him back. He doesn't even have any rep points, it doesn't do anything. :)
 
Neg rep is a stupid concept. I like the way this board just ignores it for the most part.

I've seen crazier entries into the board than this one, though.

I think Saban is one of the best coaches in football, and that he consistently produces fundamentally sound players that contribute immediately.I see no reason to turn a thread about our 1st Round draft pick into one pissing all over his coach.

Crimson, I'd like to hear your thoughts through the season on some of these SEC players -- not just the ones from UA. I don't know many of them very well and I always appreciate a perspective from someone who has been there.

If you want to be a Texans fan, be a Texans fan. Glad to have you and there's still plenty of room. Most of us aren't going to start harping on your join date, especially once you've posted a while. Be prepared to back up your statements though.
 
Some issues I'd like to address:


1) Saban is a good DB coach. Do you think Jackson could be "maxed out" before he even gets here? Is he going to be one of th eplayers we see come in strong as a rookie then regress?

2) Antoine Caldwell is huge
 
Crimson14Tide, welcome to the boards. Let's keep it classy and represent the Tide like us Texans fans have been accustomed to: See Demeco Ryans and Antoine Caldwell; I suspect soon to be Kareem Jackson too!

And stop beating Ole Miss, dadgummit.
 
gtexan02 said:
Some issues I'd like to address:


1) Saban is a good DB coach. Do you think Jackson could be "maxed out" before he even gets here? Is he going to be one of th eplayers we see come in strong as a rookie then regress?

2) Antoine Caldwell is huge
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I sure hope that's not the case. He could be a guy that's pretty darn developed and able to contribute right away but maybe doesn't have that high of ceiling? Just writing out loud here. Maybe a guy with a fairly high floor but low ceiling? Don't really know much about Jackson but he could be one of those players that is smart, confident and will prepare for games unlike most CB's and really exceed over the other CBs in that way.

I think Saban is a great coach, in general. I feel like he's a guy that doesn't just recruit players but also actually coaches them into being the best they can be. And I don't mean just making his team better, but actually DEVELOPING players for short term and longterm success. I see Alabama as a place that Kubiak/Smith will be keeping an eye on for years.
 
Dan B. said:
Neg rep is a stupid concept. I like the way this board just ignores it for the most part.

I've seen crazier entries into the board than this one, though.

I think Saban is one of the best coaches in football, and that he consistently produces fundamentally sound players that contribute immediately.I see no reason to turn a thread about our 1st Round draft pick into one pissing all over his coach.

Crimson, I'd like to hear your thoughts through the season on some of these SEC players -- not just the ones from UA. I don't know many of them very well and I always appreciate a perspective from someone who has been there.

If you want to be a Texans fan, be a Texans fan. Glad to have you and there's still plenty of room. Most of us aren't going to start harping on your join date, especially once you've posted a while. Be prepared to back up your statements though.
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I don't neg rep people unless the neg rep me......I just found it funny he neg repped me because I don't worship Saben's shadow. (I said the guy is a great college coach....but he was a shitty NFL coach and the way he handled that situation was equally shitty) Oh well, like I said his rep didn't even register.
 
I got a rep from him, too. I just don't know if it was a negative rep or a positive rep because it didn't register and he didn't leave a message on mine.
 
GP said:
Crimson14Tide:

Let me help you out here.

It's the culture of this board to NOT give out negative rep when you fall into disagreements with other people on here. What IS acceptable, in terms of giving out neg rep, is to give it to someone who is misusing the rep system. In addition, just being a bit turd'ish (in general, about everything) is a good way to get neg rep'd here.

If you want to put someone on notice, privately, you send them a private message or you give them POSITIVE rep and then type in the comment box what it is that makes your undies get into a bunch about him/her.
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SWTbound has been giving out negative rep routinely for years to people he disagrees with, including myself.

But SWT is a special case. Apparently he just does cannot bring himself to act any better than that. The example that SWT sets is certainly not one that any good citizen of this board would seek to follow.
 
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MojoMan said:
SWTbound has been giving out negative rep routinely for years to people he disagrees with, including myself.

But SWT is a special case. Apparently he just does cannot bring himself to act any better than that. The example that SWT sets is certainly not one that any good citizen of this board would seek to follow.
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So a thread on Kareem Jackson has now turned into a soapbox opportunity to bash swt?

lol, this is going to be a long offseason.


Lets focus on the draft picks. This should be an exciting thread, since CB was clearly our biggest need and we got who should be a good one
 
MojoMan said:
SWTbound has been giving out negative rep routinely for years to people he disagrees with, including myself.

But SWT is a special case. Apparently he just does cannot bring himself to act any better than that. The example that SWT sets is certainly not one that any good citizen of this board would seek to follow.
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lol its funny that you say that cause I got a neg rep from him within the first week i joined this board...then haven't got one since.
 
gtexan02 said:
So a thread on Kareem Jackson has now turned into a soapbox opportunity to bash swt?

lol, this is going to be a long offseason.


Lets focus on the draft picks. This should be an exciting thread, since CB was clearly our biggest need and we got who should be a good one
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The NFL off-season it always brutally long, we have to entertain ourselves somehow.

Go Kareem! I think it is very possible that he could be our starter right from week one. That is a little scary though since we face the Colts in that game.
 
beerlover said:
fast rising Junior but he is 22 so kinda of misleading. question is how he will fare against top flight NFL WR's? still taking a top quality CB in the 1st is smart buisness.
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Jackson just turned 22 this month, so he's right where he should be really.

TexCanada said:
lol its funny that you say that cause I got a neg rep from him within the first week i joined this board...then haven't got one since.
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That's how you get initiated bro. One of my first posts on this forum got negative repped. I said "I just can't believe we are starting out like this. Bad start. Let Gado run next time on first down. Carr will just get sacked." I cried for a few days after that.
 
MojoMan said:
SWTbound has been giving out negative rep routinely for years to people he disagrees with, including myself.

But SWT is a special case. Apparently he just does cannot bring himself to act any better than that. The example that SWT sets is certainly not one that any good citizen of this board would seek to follow.
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Its not people...its just you.
 
I found some interesting info just now about where the lineage to drafting Kareem may have come from.

Nick Saban 1988-1989 Secondary Coach Houston Oilers
http://alabama.rivals.com/viewcoach....t=1&Coach=1924

Frank Bush
[edit] Houston Oilers
In 1987 Bush was hired by the Oilers to be their college scout and he remained at the position until 1992 when he was promoted to linebackers coach. He served as the teams linebackers coach until 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Bush

Not saying for sure but this had to help tip the scale in Kareem's favor.

Does anyone here know what role Frank Bush played in drafting Antrelle Rolle and Dominque Rogers-Cromartie?
 
b0ng said:
I'm pretty sure Bush was here when the Cards drafted DRC.
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I think that's correct, DRC was part of the 2008 draft and Bush was already on the Texans staff at that point. Additionally I think Bush's background has more to do with the linebackers than secondary.
 
For the second consecutive year, HoustonTexans.com is offering fans exclusive one-on-one interviews with key figures in the Texans' NFL draft process in our "Draft Pass" series.

In the third segment, Texans first round pick Kareem Jackson talks with Drew Dougherty of Texans TV about the whirlwind start to his NFL career.

Drew Dougherty: Kareem, you've been cool, calm and collected here on the first day. Have you always been like that, or is it a recent thing?

Kareem Jackson: I think I've always been that way. Very laid back, not a guy that does a lot of talking. I'd just rather let my actions speak. That's just how I've always been since I was little.

Dougherty: Did you meet with the Texans at the combine?

Jackson: Yeah, I met with the Texans at the combine. I met with a lot of teams, so I was telling them earlier that I don't quite remember the people that were in the room. Once I heard my name called and I got the phone call from the Texans yesterday, I was very excited. But it just kind of shocked me because I hadn't heard from them since the combine. I didn't have any individual meetings with them as far as visiting the facilities or an individual workout with them, so it kind of shocked me.

Dougherty: How much did you even know about the Texans when you were growing up, and in the last year or so?

Jackson: I watched a couple games in the last couple years. I know a couple of players. I had a fellow teammate that played at Alabama with me. That's about all, though.

Dougherty: Yeah, (former Alabama teammate) Antoine Caldwell gave you a big hug this morning, and you guys got to talk. He was the first Texan that you saw. How fun was that for you?

Jackson: Oh yeah, that was very fun. To know that I have a familiar face here once I get here, they can show me around and kind of show me the ropes and stuff. So it's very fun for me.

Dougherty: Once you do hit the practice field, you've got a fantastic receiving corps that you're going to practice against, including the best guy in the league in Andre Johnson. What do you think you'll learn and improve upon by going against guys like that?

Jackson: I think I'll learn a lot. Specifically the do's and the don'ts. What to do to those type of athletes. Big, physical strong guys such as Andre Johnson. I'll learn a lot and I'm looking forward to it.
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6139
 
Very confident, yet very humble!

Same way I feel about how he's going to turn out for us.
He will do well!
 
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