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NFL Draft 2010: Day 3

I think the thing that really bugs me here is that the team does not seem to view OL as a major need of ours. There's no way our last pick beats out Ryans or Cushing, and I find it hard to believe he'll beat out Diles. In fact, I'm guessing he could end up behind Adibi and Bentley in the depth chart. Meanwhile, we have what (to me) is a clear problem on our OL. Could they not find anyone they felt would improve our OL?

Even if not OL, how about Safety, or another DT (I am not convinced that Mitchell solves all of our problems there), or maybe another RB. I'd even take a TE (in case we lose Daniels), or depth at DE.

I could see the first 3 picks (though the only one I really liked was Tate), but this one is just really puzzling to me.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
They need safety before a linebacker, and they took one of the smallest linebackers available. That was supposed to be a value pick, and there was no value in it
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Are you sure they "need" safetys? Why do you say they "need" safetys? Pollard is an excellent SS and Wilson is good at FS. If you want saftey depth, I can understand that, but you can only play 2 safetys at a time. You can play 3 lbs. If this guy can back up all three and be a special teamer, he presents additional potential value.
 
NFL draft tracker blurb on Sharpton:

Pick Analysis: The Texans add an instinctive linebacker with the selection of Darryl Sharpton. As a hard-hitting plugger with good awareness, he should be a solid backup early in his career, who makes most of his contributions on special teams.
 
rmartin65 said:
You understood the Mitchell pick? I understand the position, but not the player.

For me, this is two bad picks in a row.
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Mitchell is an Okoye clone with both at 6'-2" and just under 300 lbs. But Mitchell's explosion and quickness off the snap, hopefully, will provide more penetration and QB pressure than Okoye has been providing. Mitchell also is said to have a good swim and rip move. If this proves out and if he is as capable at stopping the run, he will be an upgrade at the position.

We need more sacks and pressure from the middle of the line.
 
awtysst said:
Are you sure they "need" safetys? Why do you say they "need" safetys? Pollard is an excellent SS and Wilson is good at FS. If you want saftey depth, I can understand that, but you can only play 2 safetys at a time. You can play 3 lbs. If this guy can back up all three and be a special teamer, he presents additional potential value.
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Wilson is always hurt, nobody can deny that. Linebacker is one of the strongest areas, wasted pick
 
Remember our OL was hit by injuries last year and we have already added OL depth in the form of Wade and Caldwell is ready to step it up as a second year player.
 
keyser said:
I think the thing that really bugs me here is that the team does not seem to view OL as a major need of ours. There's no way our last pick beats out Ryans or Cushing, and I find it hard to believe he'll beat out Diles. In fact, I'm guessing he could end up behind Adibi and Bentley in the depth chart. Meanwhile, we have what (to me) is a clear problem on our OL. Could they not find anyone they felt would improve our OL?

Even if not OL, how about Safety, or another DT (I am not convinced that Mitchell solves all of our problems there), or maybe another RB. I'd even take a TE (in case we lose Daniels), or depth at DE.

I could see the first 3 picks (though the only one I really liked was Tate), but this one is just really puzzling to me.
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Because its all about their draft board at this point and who is at the top of it vs. where are the need players at on the board.... way down it? Then no thanks, lets take the best guy on our board who can back up 3 positions and hopefully excel on special teams.
 
Some of you act if the Texan's don't pick your man crush then they are stupid and having a horrible draft.

Texan's have met with these guys, and worked them out personally. Not just read an internet blogger's (who have never met these players) opinion and form your own based on that.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
The player is a very versatile player who can back up all 3 LB spots and play special teams.

That is a useful player to have on a 45 man roster.

There was no FS who were value picks at that spot, would you rather reach?
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This is how I read this pick.
Special teamer, back-up LB (read that: Adibi replacement), plays with heart.
I would have rather had an O-line guy but he'll do.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Wilson is always hurt, nobody can deny that. Linebacker is one of the strongest areas, wasted pick
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Ok. Wilson could get on the field more, sure. Ok, so go ahead and propose who you would have taken. Which Saftey would you have taken at that pick?

Our starting Linebackers are strong and Adibi is great depth. Outside of that we are ok.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Wilson is always hurt, nobody can deny that. Linebacker is one of the strongest areas, wasted pick
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How hard is it to understand that the front office could feel that FS prospects at this point of the draft may be more of a "wasted pick" than a depth LB player who will do a lot of special teams work as well?

I forgot some of you guys get paid to do this because you all are so good at it.
 
b0ng said:
How hard is it to understand that the front office could feel that FS prospects at this point of the draft may be more of a "wasted pick" than a depth LB player who will do a lot of special teams work as well?

I forgot some of you guys get paid to do this because you all are so good at it.
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And not everyone on the board is a Draft Guru!
 
awtysst said:
Ok. Wilson could get on the field more, sure. Ok, so go ahead and propose who you would have taken. Which Saftey would you have taken at that pick?

Our starting Linebackers are strong and Adibi is great depth. Outside of that we are ok.
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Robert Johnson....and Morgan Burnett would have been picked if he were there back in the third, so either way, the position should have been filled
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Wilson is always hurt, nobody can deny that. Linebacker is one of the strongest areas, wasted pick
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Another way to look at is that the only FS selected since we picked was Stuckey. So Chancellor (who is rated higher) is still available. No harm - no foul

...at least not yet
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The Mitchell pick was easy to figure out . They need someone to get a pass rush up the middle . Mario , Smith , Mitchell ( hopefully ) Barwin . Think about the Giants when they won the SB . They have to get to the QB up the middle so he can't step up .

Why Mitchell ... the dude ran the same 10 yd and 20 yard split as Dwyer . Plus he had 6.5 sacks last year , if you look at some names that y'all know that are there ... they didn't have 6.5 in their career .
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I get that, but Mitchell is still raw. He is a developmental guy. I would like him better here in the 4th. It's just my philosphy that I want guys that can play and be starters in the first 3 rds, then I go after depth and guys who your coaches can develop into good role players or potential starters. I know it's a fine line because in truth you are talking what 15 picks or something, but Jordan Shipley was out there to be had, and he's a guy who can be the 3rd WR on our team this year and we play a lot of 3 wides, so to me that is a starters position. He would add talent and depth to the WR corp. He is polished and ready to go and adds an intriguing option for Schaub. Then here at this pick, you take Mitchell and maybe a S or Guard here at 4.20 coming up and I am a much happier camper.
 
b0ng said:
How hard is it to understand that the front office could feel that FS prospects at this point of the draft may be more of a "wasted pick" than a depth LB player who will do a lot of special teams work as well?

I forgot some of you guys get paid to do this because you all are so good at it.
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Wait till we pick a QB in the 7th and folks scream we should have taken a guard .
 
Tailgate said:
Because its all about their draft board at this point and who is at the top of it vs. where are the need players at on the board.... way down it? Then no thanks, lets take the best guy on our board who can back up 3 positions and hopefully excel on special teams.
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So you're saying you don't think they had anyone close on their draft board on the OL, or at S, or at one of the other positions that was a greater need than LB?

You're right - I don't want them reaching for someone just for need, but I find it difficulty to believe they didn't have anyone ranked close at a position of much greater need.

Plus, others have said they see Sharpton rated as a 4th rounder - I saw several ratings that had him much lower. So far in the 4th round, Sharpton was the lowest rated of any of the players taken (according to the places I've looked at), and it seems most other teams have been going for value (players that have dropped) here.

I really hope I'm wrong and the Texans have found one of the gems of the 4th round, but I'm not feeling good about it right now.
 
Almost all the guys everyone wanted with our last pick are still there for our next pick.

The bottom line is that you've got to leave your wants behind at this point. Just face it that we don't know these guys as well as we wish we did.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Great instincts, seems to be a ballhawk, what the Texans need, remember? Pollard is good, but Wilson? Really? Backup Linebackers is not what they need, they have enough of those
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What would you say if Johnson was available at our pick? If he is there and we take him, then we would have overdrafted him if we took him in your spot.

Point: You cannot call a pick stupid until you see the whole draft and get an understanding of who went where.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Great instincts, seems to be a ballhawk, what the Texans need, remember? Pollard is good, but Wilson? Really? Backup Linebackers is not what they need, they have enough of those
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Wilson is good...when hes not hurt.

but yeah Johnson is one im hoping we pick up, hes kinda small for a FS physically but his ball skills are great for a safety. hope we get him in this next pick or in the 5th.
 
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