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Kareem Jackson CB Alabama - 1st round pick

This first round was phenomenal for almost every team.

Except for the Jags and Broncos, I think each team got what they needed.

With each pick that was made, I kept thinking that it was a good pick by that particular team. I think this year's first round is going to go down in history as perhaps THE most productive first round in history. I don't see but maybe 3 or 4 guys out of the round that might not really translate into good NFL players.

And you know what? I like the new format so far. It was fun to watch the draft at night, then have work all day today to think about what happened last night (makes the day go by faster, IMO), watch the draft AGAIN tonight, then finish it up on Saturday. With the old format, it felt like a marathon on the weekend and I just could never get into it--My wife and my daughters are not so keen on this guy sitting on a couch for two straight days when we could be outside or doing other things as a family.

I actually agree about splitting up the draft, I like it this way. Then again, I don't have draft parties and all that stuff. I just watch at home by myself, so when its too long I simply can't do it.
 
This first round was phenomenal for almost every team.

Except for the Jags and Broncos, I think each team got what they needed.

With each pick that was made, I kept thinking that it was a good pick by that particular team. I think this year's first round is going to go down in history as perhaps THE most productive first round in history. I don't see but maybe 3 or 4 guys out of the round that might not really translate into good NFL players.

And you know what? I like the new format so far. It was fun to watch the draft at night, then have work all day today to think about what happened last night (makes the day go by faster, IMO), watch the draft AGAIN tonight, then finish it up on Saturday. With the old format, it felt like a marathon on the weekend and I just could never get into it--My wife and my daughters are not so keen on this guy sitting on a couch for two straight days when we could be outside or doing other things as a family.

I said this in the draft section. It also is allowing teams to break up their draft and really concentrate on small segments where they can wheel and deal. You will have some smartly moving around and you may have some that analyze the night before, panic and make some crazy moves. So it adds some fun.
 
I feel alot better knowing that all the CB's didn't fly off the board ahead of us and we settled. We got the 2nd CB, took the guy we wanted, and didn't let our clock run on our pick. We had him targeted the whole way, and that makes me feel better.

I think 30 teams got the guy they wanted. I have never seen a first round move THAT quickly. teams knew what they wanted and they didn't waste any time. There was just hardly any head-scratching moves except for Jags and Broncos. I wonder if the Chargers moving up for Mathews will pan out for them. For some reason, I am just not sold on Mathews as an NFL-calibre RB.

And I agree that we got a really good CB. The worst feeling in the world is when you draft a position and about 8 or 9 of those guys had come off the board BEFORE you selected your guy.

To be honest, I think Smithiak were ecstatic that they sat there at 20 and essentially had almost every available CB to choose from.

Now I am wnodering what their plan is for 2nd and 2rd round. Are they going BPA in one round, or both rounds, or are they targeting a certain position to improve? And if so, what position will that be? We're drafting at about 19 or so in the 2nd round, IIRC, so we need to pull up the best available and see what's there.
 
I'm fine with the Texans pick of Kareem Jackson. I think that they believe they are close enough to being a playoff team that a few impact now players can put them there. Having said that, I do believe that the Texans were targeting Ryan Mathews with their 1st round pick. I think San Diego stunned both the Seahawks and Texans when they jumped ahead of both and got the player that they coveted. If you listen to the comments by Frank Bush he makes it sound like they were looking at running back and then regrouped and went defense. And Jackson does seem to be someone Bush can throw on the field day 1 because of the coaching he received at Alabama, the caliber of opposition Jackson faced on a weekly basis, and the complexity of Alabama's defensive scheme. It doesn't hurt either that Jackson likes to study film. Round 2 and 3 should be very interesting. Hopefully the Texans come away with 2 out of 3 of dt, rb, fs.

Check out this quote from Frank Bush


(on if they were set on a defensive player as the time got close) "We were set on defense. Of course you know there's two sides to the board as you look at the draft board and the offense had their guys that they really wanted and we had the guys that we wanted and as the things start to shake out, you know some things happened that we didn't forsee and then we had an opportunity to basically go back in and discuss the defensive players and this was a guy that we really wanted. He was a guy that we had really high on our draft board as far as defense is concerned and so that gave us an opportunity to go get him. We had a need in a lot of different positions as you guys understand and we were looking at running back but we also had a need at corner. We felt like this was a player that we had to go get."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6114

Rep your way for adding this to the conversation.

It looks like we missed out on a RB two years in-a-row (Coffee last year and Mathews this year0.

But I think THIS year it might be a blessing in disguise that we lost out on Mathews. I have a good feeling about Kareem Jackson.
 
not a huge fan of the move but its obvious the Texans like him. there were still a lot of corners on the board and a helluva DT in Dan Williams, so they must really like the guy.

i am very happy that we are continuing a trend of getting players from big and successful programs. players that are used to winning and having to compete and earn their playing time. having the top coaching and the increased scrutiny of a major program like Alabama helps too.

was it a perfect pick? maybe not. did they maximize their value? maybe not. But they did address a need, I am just still bent that we had to spend our 1st Round on a corner anyway. Would have rather just paid Dunta and drafted Dan Williams, but it was personal between Rick and Dunta and frankly, that was Dunta's fault more than Rick.

Hopefully we get more value out of our remaining picks. I would love for them to get Taylor Mays in the 2nd Round. Then you get a RB that someone gets rid of or you make a trade. Why we didn't try and sign a veteran RB this offseason, I will never know. There were plenty out there and I don't want the Texans to be forced to grab a RB in the 2nd when there could be some very good prospects available when its our pick tonight.

I will give them an A for getting their guy, but I gotta give them a C+ for getting the most value out of the slot they picked in. Just my opinion.

GO TEXANS
 
I feel alot better knowing that all the CB's didn't fly off the board ahead of us and we settled. We got the 2nd CB, took the guy we wanted, and didn't let our clock run on our pick. We had him targeted the whole way, and that makes me feel better.

that's a great point. we had our choice of jackson, wilson, mccourty, thompson, robinson, ghee, and arenas. the texans were taking a DB or a RB in the first round. they knew that, we knew that, everybody knew that ... with spiller, matthews, berry and thomas off the board, the whole dang world knew we were taking a CB. as such, it's asinine to assume anything less than excessive diligence in scouting and projecting those names. had we traded down and new england taken jackson we (fans) wouldnt have noticed, but the texans would have felt they missed taking who they wanted. had we traded down and gotten jackson while someone ahead of us selected wilson, this site would be furious, while the texans' staff cheered.

no, we stayed at 20 and took who we wanted at the selection we wanted him at. i dont think there's any more proof than that on who the texans agreed to be the best fit for the selection and the team. with only one cb gone we could have had anybody ... and we took jackson. combined with new england trading back to settle with mccourty, i think our choice speaks volumes.
 
Had not seen this before but was my eval also. Wilson fit my goal of a CB that could run down the field and break up a pass. Jackson does not. He was drafted by Texans due to their philosphy of wanting a CB to be effective with 15 yards of scrimmage and to help tackle TEs, slots and RBs. I think it would be nice to have a cover CB. Jackson may prove to be one but I've seen nothing to indicate that by watching him play. He does have stiff hips and I don't think he has closing speed when he guesses wrong. His strengths indicates he "mirrors" the WR but I see a lot of interference calls in his future against NFL WRs. I will feel a lot better about this pick if we strengthen our FS to help protect Jackson.

Translation - We play Indy week 1 and they love to dink and dunk you. We don't want a "shut down" corner that lines up 15 yards away from the WR.
 
not a huge fan of the move but its obvious the Texans like him. there were still a lot of corners on the board and a helluva DT in Dan Williams, so they must really like the guy.

i am very happy that we are continuing a trend of getting players from big and successful programs. players that are used to winning and having to compete and earn their playing time. having the top coaching and the increased scrutiny of a major program like Alabama helps too.

was it a perfect pick? maybe not. did they maximize their value? maybe not. But they did address a need, I am just still bent that we had to spend our 1st Round on a corner anyway. Would have rather just paid Dunta and drafted Dan Williams, but it was personal between Rick and Dunta and frankly, that was Dunta's fault more than Rick.

Hopefully we get more value out of our remaining picks. I would love for them to get Taylor Mays in the 2nd Round. Then you get a RB that someone gets rid of or you make a trade. Why we didn't try and sign a veteran RB this offseason, I will never know. There were plenty out there and I don't want the Texans to be forced to grab a RB in the 2nd when there could be some very good prospects available when its our pick tonight.

I will give them an A for getting their guy, but I gotta give them a C+ for getting the most value out of the slot they picked in. Just my opinion.

GO TEXANS

I think Dunta's best days are behind him. IMO, we maxed out his value (especially with the injury and how it has got to be at least some bit of a detraction on his skill set) and it was time to essentially make that same pick in this year's draft.

The big guy from Iowa (Bulaga, right?) does not fit our scheme. He's a big hog who fits the Green Bay system and has their brand/style of OL skills. I think he's going to do VERy well there. And the center from Florida, Pouncey, would have been a great pick for us, IMO. He is solid. But he was gone.

That left the DT you mentioned. I really felt we were going to go Dez or Dan on that pick. When it flashed on the screen that we picked a CB, I was immediately OK with the pick (although I hadn't studied Kareem prior to last night).

I think Bush and Kubiak upgraded the LB squad last draft, the CB squad in this year's draft, and I bet we see some picks made for offense now. I don't know why, but I have this gut feeling that us passing on Dan the DT was Bush and Kubiak throwing down the challenge to our current DL players: "You guys are going to have to suck it up and get the job done. There ain't any miracle worker coming to save you guys and help you. You can play, and you better make sure you handle your business in EVERY game."

There will be no mistaking which areas of our defense is earning their keep and which are not. For years, our secondary has been joked about. Last year, our LBs solidified their role as being consistent producers you can rely upon. Jackson is from Alabama. DeMeco is from Alabama. They are going to team up and run that defense. And that means someone on the DL better begin thinking about being the leader of the DL and holding the other DL's feet to the fire.

Just my gut feeling.
 
Well as for our picks today . . .

I expect us to come out of the day with a RB although I'm not sure if it will be in the 2nd. I'm actually more inclined to think it's the 3rd. I think we might just go BPA in the 2nd and RB in the 3rd. If Nate Allen is still available in the 2nd I would jump at the opportunity.

I'm thinking Nate Allen too.
 
That's right.....DA MOWF!!!

My wife sat down and watched the footage of Jackson on ESPN after we made our pick.

She was like "That dude is ripped. Wow, he's like a laser beam out there."

LOL. But then again, she doesn't know what those white, dash-y things are for that are all along the length of the football field. :shrug:
 
I love this pick! He is a CB, a 3 year starter from a great team (Cushing), and they interviewed the guy. Texans put a lot of stock in interviews (per Rick Smith) and I completely trust their judgment here.
 
Why he is good! :bravo:
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Personally, I think the knock that he may not have "as high a ceiling" is just soutspeak for (we've seen too much film on the player and are nitpicking at this point).

Kareem started every year at Alabama and THEN came out as a junior. He improved every season and has all the qualities you look for in a CB. How is he maxed out on his potential over a CB who played lesser competition and had an extra year of football (EX: Kyle Wilson).

Bottomline, everybody watched Alabama play last season... quite a bit moreso than the average NCAA team. Kareem played in more big games than just about every prospect in the draft and there's no game you can point to and say, "He was overmatched". That there thingy is a quality player who has yet to max out his potential.

PS: Cushing got the same label.... he also started every year he played at one of the biggest programs in college football.
 
The Texans two most prominent needs going into this draft were CB and RB. While I would have been happy if we picked an RB, talented cornerbacks are much harder to come by, and are much more likely to be gone by the end of the first round than the RB's. Unfortunately, this was not a great year for first round RB's. But fortunately the Texans have picks in the second and third rounds that they can use to select a talented RB.

So I am happy with the Kareem Jackson pick. Like many others around here, I have been following the draft boards, and am well familiar with the names Haden and Wilson. Apparently, Smith and Kubiak were not following these draft boards, and used a different methodology to grade players and make draft decisions for the Houston Texans team. Frankly, I am glad that is the case.

Kareem Jackson was not a reach, and appears to be a very good pick at the #20 position in the draft. He appears to be very talented and almost a sure thing as far as actually being able to make it out on the field on Sundays. Drafting for "potential" is like playing the stock market. It can be a home run, or it can be a bust or anywhere in between (remember Jason Babin, Tony Hollings, etc.). If Kyle Wilson turns out to be a mediocre performer, his "potential" will compensate for his performance out on the field exactly zero.
When selecting any college player for any pro sport all you have is potential. You have to look at stats and game film and any games you actually watch. Texans are gambling on Jackson "potentially" being a starter sooner than Wilson or McCourty based on their personal opinions.
What you said about Wilson turning out to be mediocre is also true of Jackson or anyone else. We go with what the Texans brain trust gives us and that is what has caused the lengthy threads we saw before McNair extended Kubiak's deal. Unless we have a stunning 2-7 rounds remaining draft, I have now moved into the "show me" camp on the management.
 
After a night to think about it, I like the pick, though Dan Williams would have been better IMO

Hopefully Cody or Price will be there in the 2nd. Having a bust and some street free agent at DT isn't going to get it done.
 
not a huge fan of the move but its obvious the Texans like him. there were still a lot of corners on the board and a helluva DT in Dan Williams, so they must really like the guy.

i am very happy that we are continuing a trend of getting players from big and successful programs. players that are used to winning and having to compete and earn their playing time. having the top coaching and the increased scrutiny of a major program like Alabama helps too.

was it a perfect pick? maybe not. did they maximize their value? maybe not. But they did address a need, I am just still bent that we had to spend our 1st Round on a corner anyway. Would have rather just paid Dunta and drafted Dan Williams, but it was personal between Rick and Dunta and frankly, that was Dunta's fault more than Rick.

Hopefully we get more value out of our remaining picks. I would love for them to get Taylor Mays in the 2nd Round. Then you get a RB that someone gets rid of or you make a trade. Why we didn't try and sign a veteran RB this offseason, I will never know. There were plenty out there and I don't want the Texans to be forced to grab a RB in the 2nd when there could be some very good prospects available when its our pick tonight.

I will give them an A for getting their guy, but I gotta give them a C+ for getting the most value out of the slot they picked in. Just my opinion.

GO TEXANS

I really think Green and Brown made the Texans never want a vet who's best years were behind them. Kind of a fool me once..type thing. I think I would have signed one of the three(LT, TJ, or Taylor) but I get why we were hesitant.

After a night to think about it, I like the pick, though Dan Williams would have been better IMO

Hopefully Cody or Price will be there in the 2nd. Having a bust and some street free agent at DT isn't going to get it done.

We have made a decision that bigger DT's arent what we want on our line. I don't agree with it, but its how they wanna run.
 
Well as for our picks today . . .

I expect us to come out of the day with a RB although I'm not sure if it will be in the 2nd. I'm actually more inclined to think it's the 3rd. I think we might just go BPA in the 2nd and RB in the 3rd. If Nate Allen is still available in the 2nd I would jump at the opportunity.
Nate Allen, Lamarr Houston, Gerhart, Burnett, Linval Joseph and Brian Price are guys I am looking for at #51.
 
One thing that I noticed about Jackson when his highlights came on (did anyone else notice how they didn't cut to his draft party or anything) was that when he intercepts a ball, he does it with his hands like he's the WR on the route. As I was watching him intercept the ball, I couldn't get that image of Dunta dropping that easy INT.

I also noticed that he plays alot of man coverage. How many times have we heard the announcers saying "you gotta give this Texan D some credit, they aren't afraid to stay in that man coverage."? If he's playing Man Coverage like that, and then you see him jumping routes the way he does, it means he's studying lots of film.

That's what I like about Kareem Jackson.
 
Nate Allen, Lamarr Houston, Gerhart, Burnett, Linval Joseph and Brian Price are guys I am looking for at #51.

Dude, that's almost exactly my order. I got:

Nate Allen
Ben Tate
Toby Gerhart
Lamarr Houston
Reshad Jones
Brian Price
 
Don't know if this has been posted but he originally committed to Vanderbilt . They just don't let anyone into Vandy , in fact Howard Cosell called it the Yale of the south .
 
Glenn Dorsey is on the block, so I've heard

i hear he is too. i think his monetary cost may make him a longshot to the Texans. Wasn't he 2nd or 3rd overall? that is big money for someone who hasn't shown a lot to date.

he makes sense and i like the aggressiveness of going after him but i think his salary will hurt his chances at going anywhere much less a pretty frugal team like the Texans.

see i used frugal rather than cheap...i am trying to give the benefit of the doubt over here :thisbig:
 
i am very happy that we are continuing a trend of getting players from big and successful programs. players that are used to winning and having to compete and earn their playing time.

I will give them an A for getting their guy, but I gotta give them a C+ for getting the most value out of the slot they picked in. Just my opinion.

GO TEXANS
I basically come down on this pick the same way. The Texans inactivity in free agency forced them to look at RB & CB early. When the top RBs were off the board at #20, the Texans had to look at CB. Unless they were able to trade down for extra picks (which other teams were able to do).

I feel the best players @20 were Bulaga, Dez Bryant, and Dan Williams. The Texans don't have a need at WR, so Bryant would have been a luxury pick. Bulaga could have stepped right in at LG, and improved the offensive line. Maybe beat out Brown or Winston at one of the Tackle spots down the road. Dan Williams could have started at NT from Day 1.

But, the Texans can get by with what they have on the offensive and defensive lines. They had to come out of this draft with a CB & a RB. It would have been fine, IMO, to wait until the 2nd round to take a CB. Someone like Franks, Cook, Ghee, or Murphy would be around at #51. And it's also likely that a power back like Gerhart, Dwyer, or Tate make it that far. Not all, but probably one. But, you can't take a RB and a CB with one 2nd round pick. The Texans had to go either RB or CB in the 1st, and the 1st round RBs were gone. They painted themselves into the corner, so to speak.

What's a shame is that RB might not still be the best player available at #51. There are 3 very intriguing DTs still on the board. Lamarr Houston, Brian Price, and Linval Joseph. I'm not even including NT types like Cam Thomas or Terrance Cody, who I doubt the Texans have interest in. But, the Texans can't gamble that a RB they like will last until their pick in the 3rd round. As they did in 2009, and missed on Shonn Greene and Glen Coffee. The Texans are basically forced into a RB at #51. I still don't understand why they didn't make a play for Thomas Jones or Chester Taylor.
 
Glenn Dorsey is on the block, so I've heard

i hear he is too. i think his monetary cost may make him a longshot to the Texans. Wasn't he 2nd or 3rd overall? that is big money for someone who hasn't shown a lot to date.
Dorsey's big money came in terms of a signing bonus. Here's what's left on his rookie contract (per Rotoworld):

2010: $983,500
2011: $1,582,250
2012: $2.181 million
2013: $2.75 million (Option Year)
Another $18 million is available through incentives. If the Chiefs would take a 3rd round pick, the Texans should jump at taking another defender off the Chiefs hands. Dorsey is miscast in the Chiefs 3-4 and would be better served in the Texans scheme. But, the Texans have to hold on to the 2nd round pick. They can't afford to give that up, and I'm sure that's the minimum KC would accept for Dorsey.
 
I still don't understand why they didn't make a play for Thomas Jones or Chester Taylor.

they were being too cheap err too frugal....or just too scared from the Ahman Green deal.

i knew this was going to happen though. not getting some help at DB or at RB in Free Agency was going to paint us into a corner and force us to get less value out of our picks...and whaddya know. It happened.

if we go and get Jones for chicken feed (the Chiefs got him for crying out loud) and even if we kick Dunta to the curb, we could have gone BPA instead of being pigeonholed into critical needs.

Also the fact that they weren't able to orchestrate a trade-down really makes me question Rick's ability as a GM. Maybe not so much his ability but I question his rolodex and his ability to communicate and work with other GMs in the league. Did we not even accept phone calls? Does Rick even have these guys numbers? Just seemed a bit like an amateur hour...but I have come to expect that from the Smithiak Experience at times.

that being said, at least they did get a guy who was a 3 year starter at a top program. he seems like a smart guy too and doesn't across as some thug-life piece of trash....

...and on that note. JUST SAY NO TO MARSHAWN LYNCH!!
 
they were being too cheap err too frugal....or just too scared from the Ahman Green deal.

i knew this was going to happen though. not getting some help at DB or at RB in Free Agency was going to paint us into a corner and force us to get less value out of our picks...and whaddya know. It happened.

if we go and get Jones for chicken feed (the Chiefs got him for crying out loud) and even if we kick Dunta to the curb, we could have gone BPA instead of being pigeonholed into critical needs.

Also the fact that they weren't able to orchestrate a trade-down really makes me question Rick's ability as a GM. Maybe not so much his ability but I question his rolodex and his ability to communicate and work with other GMs in the league. Did we not even accept phone calls? Does Rick even have these guys numbers? Just seemed a bit like an amateur hour...but I have come to expect that from the Smithiak Experience at times.

that being said, at least they did get a guy who was a 3 year starter at a top program. he seems like a smart guy too and doesn't across as some thug-life piece of trash....

...and on that note. JUST SAY NO TO MARSHAWN LYNCH!!


My thoughts exactly.
 
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Coco (Coco? Really?) hasn't signed his contract, yet. So I doubt we'll see a video of him "making it rain". Is that still going on, anyway?
 
Dorsey's big money came in terms of a signing bonus. Here's what's left on his rookie contract (per Rotoworld):

Another $18 million is available through incentives. If the Chiefs would take a 3rd round pick, the Texans should jump at taking another defender off the Chiefs hands. Dorsey is miscast in the Chiefs 3-4 and would be better served in the Texans scheme. But, the Texans have to hold on to the 2nd round pick. They can't afford to give that up, and I'm sure that's the minimum KC would accept for Dorsey.

We could trade them a true NG in ... ummm ... Okam .
 
Dorsey's big money came in terms of a signing bonus. Here's what's left on his rookie contract (per Rotoworld):

Another $18 million is available through incentives. If the Chiefs would take a 3rd round pick, the Texans should jump at taking another defender off the Chiefs hands. Dorsey is miscast in the Chiefs 3-4 and would be better served in the Texans scheme. But, the Texans have to hold on to the 2nd round pick. They can't afford to give that up, and I'm sure that's the minimum KC would accept for Dorsey.

wow, just like Haynesworth, this guy would be really cheap salary-wise.

personally, if I was Gary, I would call his friend Shanny and see if they would take a 3rd Rounder for Haynesworth. If not, then call KC and see if they would take a 3rd Rounder. If not, then see if you can sweeten the pot with a player and get Dorsey here.

Dorsey isn't a 3-4 NT and their brass knows it. I just worry that a team like New Orleans, Dallas, or perhaps Miami wouldn't make a move on either of those guys and drive the price up.

OT - kudos to JJ for getting Dez to Dallas. Dez hadn't done anything that bad and people are making him out to be PacMan. A luxury pick but Roy Williams is a lazy pile of dog crap. They need to get that guy out of Dallas and get him out before his sad act rubs off on Dez...and yes, I am a Longhorn. Roy is just off the charts horrible with his attitude, his lazy demeanor, his work ethic, his intensity, his love of the game, just about everything. Guy had so much skills coming out of Austin too....just a pathetic pathetic professional footballer.
 
wow, just like Haynesworth, this guy would be really cheap salary-wise.

personally, if I was Gary, I would call his friend Shanny and see if they would take a 3rd Rounder for Haynesworth. If not, then call KC and see if they would take a 3rd Rounder. If not, then see if you can sweeten the pot with a player and get Dorsey here.

Dorsey isn't a 3-4 NT and their brass knows it. I just worry that a team like New Orleans, Dallas, or perhaps Miami wouldn't make a move on either of those guys and drive the price up.

OT - kudos to JJ for getting Dez to Dallas. Dez hadn't done anything that bad and people are making him out to be PacMan. A luxury pick but Roy Williams is a lazy pile of dog crap. They need to get that guy out of Dallas and get him out before his sad act rubs off on Dez...and yes, I am a Longhorn. Roy is just off the charts horrible with his attitude, his lazy demeanor, his work ethic, his intensity, his love of the game, just about everything. Guy had so much skills coming out of Austin too....just a pathetic pathetic professional footballer.

I'd trade a third for either because I was going to draft a DT there anyway .
 
One thing that I noticed about Jackson when his highlights came on (did anyone else notice how they didn't cut to his draft party or anything) was that when he intercepts a ball, he does it with his hands like he's the WR on the route. As I was watching him intercept the ball, I couldn't get that image of Dunta dropping that easy INT.

I also noticed that he plays alot of man coverage. How many times have we heard the announcers saying "you gotta give this Texan D some credit, they aren't afraid to stay in that man coverage."? If he's playing Man Coverage like that, and then you see him jumping routes the way he does, it means he's studying lots of film.

That's what I like about Kareem Jackson.
What I saw on those plays were seemingly short routes where his weakness in going deep was not revealed. I saw a strong suggestion he will get a few penalty flags ala Dunta R. trying to save a touch down.
 
The only DB I wanted here was Bodden, and the Pats QUICKLY got him signed once he was on our front porch. He was never going anywhere but back to NE.

It is what it is. Now, if Toby can last till 51 then the Texans will have gotten fairly lucky imo in filling what they needed with what they wanted.... post Ryan Mathews of course.
 
Another $18 million is available through incentives. If the Chiefs would take a 3rd round pick, the Texans should jump at taking another defender off the Chiefs hands. Dorsey is miscast in the Chiefs 3-4 and would be better served in the Texans scheme. But, the Texans have to hold on to the 2nd round pick. They can't afford to give that up, and I'm sure that's the minimum KC would accept for Dorsey.

I would take him for a 3 but not before I spend the 2 on a quality RB. If that RB doesn't fall to us and we go in another direction I probably hold onto the 3 to look for another runner.
 
Last night, I gave them a solid B. After sleeping on it and thinking about it, plus reviewing my notes and reading this board, I stand by my initial assessment.

Jackson is a safe pick at a position of need. He probably wont be an all-star, but he should be a solid starter this first season, and an upper-echelon corner for the next 8 years.

I am not jumping up and down clapping and giggling, but I am satisfied.
 
So did anyone have Kareem Jackson as our pick from the boards? I try to always acknowledge that individual by becoming their #1 fan :)
 
Last night, I gave them a solid B. After sleeping on it and thinking about it, plus reviewing my notes and reading this board, I stand by my initial assessment.

Jackson is a safe pick at a position of need. He probably wont be an all-star, but he should be a solid starter this first season, and an upper-echelon corner for the next 8 years.

I am not jumping up and down clapping and giggling, but I am satisfied.

To me , there wasn't a sexy pick to be had . We needed the mini-van and we got the mini-van .
 
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Coco (Coco? Really?) hasn't signed his contract, yet. So I doubt we'll see a video of him "making it rain". Is that still going on, anyway?

rant deleted. glad that is just some 'artist' named Rocko instead of being kareem.

overreaction over. sorry for the inconvenience. thank you, please drive thru.
 
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Slight reach, but looking at the way things shaped out behind us. I'm not so sure he would've been available much longer. I like the move of staying pat, not getting cute and getting a guy you targeted.

Far as the pick itself goes. It's Solid. I like hearing stuff like possibly most ready CB in the draft.

B+.
 
Coming back to the draft again this morning I am happy we took Jackson.

I would of liked an OL like Iupati or Pouncey, I would have been really happy if Thomas fell to us, but given what was on the board we made the sensible play.

We are team close to the playoffs, we needed someone who could help push us over the top straight away and Jackson seems to be the guy who can come in and play right away.

Let's see what we get in the 2nd and 3rd rounds as well to better judge Smithiak's master plan.
 
I didn't really like it at first with Kyle Wilson still on the board. But I can't complain, because Jackson's pretty much pro-ready and played in a very tough SEC conference for 3 years. Can help us right away. Solid pick. I'd give it a B.
 
did we really select this guy? is this really our selection? so much for him not being some thug-life wannabe rapper.....

....maybe call me old fashioned and yes I am middle aged white dude, but after seeing that poster, I absolutely HATE THE PICK!! Didn't we just run one of these type of guys out of town for being self centered and out to get mine?

hiphop culture is total and utter garbage and is symptomatic of what is wrong with this country...i thought we were trying to get people who were setting a good example and not losers who are or at least want the image that its all about money and hos....ugh.

ugh, i am now bent and will try and keep my thoughts to myself but that is just what we need in the NFL....another thuglife wannabe wanksta.

i thought he was the exact opposite but I guess all young america is ruined by this materialistic and misogynistic garbage. ugh i think i am going to be sick.

i am sure i will get flamed or even worse, get labeled a racist but if it was a white guy with that poster I would feel the same way. just another immature turd burglar.....hoo-freakin-ray.

why did you have to post that? i was starting to feel decent about the guy and the pick. now he is just another example of what is wrong with some of the youth nowadays...and not just black youth but all youth.

maybe I am overreacting (that would be a first) but its a sore subject to me. I work with disadvantaged youth and they need some real role models. they need to realize its not all about money and hos and gettin paid and being rich. for most of these kids, they wont ever be rich but if they work hard and follow the rules of society, they can make something of themselves. we need guys to use their resources to give back to their communities and their people, not be in a rush to spend it all on parties, money, and hos. if someone tried to get a job looking like that, they would be turned away. kids don't realize that and by the time they do its too late. be a freaking example to the youth and grow up.

*puts on flame retardant suit in anticipation of the hate*

relax man thats the rapper dj rocko on the poster

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its either him or JD Booty anyway :)
 
did we really select this guy? is this really our selection? so much for him not being some thug-life wannabe rapper.....

....maybe call me old fashioned and yes I am middle aged white dude, but after seeing that poster, I absolutely HATE THE PICK!! Didn't we just run one of these type of guys out of town for being self centered and out to get mine?

hiphop culture is total and utter garbage and is symptomatic of what is wrong with this country...i thought we were trying to get people who were setting a good example and not losers who are or at least want the image that its all about money and hos....ugh.

ugh, i am now bent and will try and keep my thoughts to myself but that is just what we need in the NFL....another thuglife wannabe wanksta.

i thought he was the exact opposite but I guess all young america is ruined by this materialistic and misogynistic garbage. ugh i think i am going to be sick.

i am sure i will get flamed or even worse, get labeled a racist but if it was a white guy with that poster I would feel the same way. just another immature turd burglar.....hoo-freakin-ray.

why did you have to post that? i was starting to feel decent about the guy and the pick. now he is just another example of what is wrong with some of the youth nowadays...and not just black youth but all youth.

maybe I am overreacting (that would be a first) but its a sore subject to me. I work with disadvantaged youth and they need some real role models. they need to realize its not all about money and hos and gettin paid and being rich. for most of these kids, they wont ever be rich but if they work hard and follow the rules of society, they can make something of themselves and that making something of yourself isn't all about partying and hos. its about just being a man and maybe raising a family and being there for the family. we need guys to use their resources to give back to their communities and their people, not be in a rush to spend it all on parties, money, and hos. if someone tried to get a job looking like that, they would be turned away. kids don't realize that and by the time they do its too late. be a freaking example to the youth and grow up.

*puts on flame retardant suit in anticipation of the hate*

That's not him. It's the rapper "Rocko". I don't know who Rocko is but that's not Kareem Jackson.
 
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