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Mike Leach Fired

After reading the e-mails that were discovered by the Dallas Morning News, you'd have to be pretty desperate to want the TT job now.

Mike should have walked last year.
 
Some more interesting tidbits:

Houston Press Editorial

HoustonPress said:
Secondly, the degree to which Sowell talks about Leach in the emails is amazing. It's actually counterintuitive, in a way. The string of emails illustrates a portion of the exhausting renegotiation process the school chooses to go through with a coach that, by Sowell's assessment, is a complete undesirable who is barely competent to get an interview at McDonald's much less Auburn. My question to Sowell would be "If he's as much of a buffoon as you make him out to be, then what does that say about every other hire the school has ever made to coach football, because Leach is far and away your best coach and the main reason people outside of Texas can now find Lubbock on a map?" Sorry, it's just a fact and judging by the reaction of most Texas Tech fans today, they agree.
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Trainer contradicts Adams story

TTU fans upset [video]

NY Times article. <--- Pro Click Zone
“I think he used his position at ESPN to try to coerce me into allowing Adam to play more,” said Leach, who said he expected to coach again. “But the thing about it is as the coach, I watch every inch of film. I’m deferring to the judgment of 12 people as we look at the film on who should play and who should play when and then we make our decision based on that. I don’t feel like it’s fair to the other players and I don’t think it’s the right way to do business to allow influence and position to dictate when you play a young man.”
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Leach said that Craig James called the assistant coach Lincoln Riley so often to lobby for playing time that they had a meeting with Adam James. They played him two of the messages and asked, “How would you feel if we went in there to the meeting room and we stuck speakers up and we played these two messages for the team?”

Leach added: “After that we didn’t get any more phone calls from Craig, but he did proceed to call administrators.”

Leach said that Craig James felt his son was not getting a fair shot and threatened to call the administration about it.

“He made it clear that he had a business relationship with our chancellor or certainly was in conversation about such things,” Leach said. “He made it clear that he was announcing this game or that. He always felt like we were leaving the best receiver on the team on the bench. It’s inconceivable that we’d ever want to do that or consider doing it.”
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Extended ESPN Leach and Rece Davis interview <-- Pro Click Zone

Enjoy. And Happy New Years.
 
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Wow, Craig and his worthless son are total douche nozzles.

TTU is going to get hammered when this goes to court. They'll be lucky to only have to pay Leach the full value of his contract.
 
b0ng said:
Well all I can say is yes, Mike Leach is completely at fault for having a known slacker with a poor attitude on his team and not dealing with him as any other normal coach would (cut him), and instead gave him multiple chances to succeed.

If you really believe the bolded part, only time will tell, but lets just say I'm a tiny bit more skeptical they pull that off.
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There's always some coach out there who says "Gee whiz, how did the previous coach screw all of that up? I'll take the job."

One man's mistake is always another man's gain.

I am not happy that it appears Craig James did what he did. I am not happy that Adam James tried to play a team sport when it appears he is an individual who is out for himself. Those two people are engaged in a selfish crusade, so it seems. Note to self: Never sign a kid whose daddy is an analyst at ESPN. Duh.

The maturity of Leach should have entered the equation at several points, though. I still can't understand how he could be so soft as to (a) ignore the warnings from his staff members regarding bringing him onto the team in the first place, (b) fail to punish Adam James or cut him from the team at so many points of time when it was clear he was a big problem with team chemistry, and (c) put Adam James is shaming positions in order to try and deal with the issue. Just CUT the kid. Be a man already!

There's a book entitled "How Come Every Time I Get Stabbed In The Back, My Fingerprints Are On The Knife?" and it's by a professor who says that we are invariably, to some degree, responsible for the back-stabbings we receive.

Leach, via his own stubborness and lack of caution, has essentially aided the James family and TTU to do to him what was done.

Was it right of the James family? Hell no!

Was it right of TTU? I'm split on it. The emails reveal that they were tired of paying him more than the head coaches of their other sports programs, that they were tired of dealing with his agent and his lawyers, and that they were tired of Mike engaging in contract leveraging by arranging interviews with programs that didn't even have interest in him.

In the end, Mike Leach should learn that he doesn't run a pirate ship. He runs a program of BOYS who are trying to become men. And those BOYS have mommas and daddies who still have a pudgy finger in the pie of their son's life at college. And in the end, a university is going to make sure that their public image is one of taking care of BOYS who are trying to become men. If they lose that, they lose everything. Or so that's the perception/concern the universities have.

Someone will pounce on the ready-made program Leach created.
 
Goatcheese said:
Wow, Craig and his worthless son are total douche nozzles.

TTU is going to get hammered when this goes to court. They'll be lucky to only have to pay Leach the full value of his contract.
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Agreed. Not really a fan of Craig james anymore. Daddy got what he wanted.

I think TTU pays him the $800,000 completion bonus and whatever remainder or buyout is there in the contract.
 
GP said:
Agreed. Not really a fan of Craig james anymore. Daddy got what he wanted.

I think TTU pays him the $800,000 completion bonus and whatever remainder or buyout is there in the contract.
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That's what I think too. I've also read, somewhere, that Art Briles has already stated interest in the job. We'll see if they pick him up and if he can do any better at TTU than he has at Baylor and did at Houston.
 
Mike Leach is the only one to blame here. You can't blame the kid - he is just a kid and not in charge - Leach is (or was). Leach let his over-inflated opinion of himself cloud his judgement.
 
Why does everybody refer to Adam James as a kid? He, like all others over 18, is an adult. An adult who needs his daddy to still hold his hand and wipe his ass, but an adult none the less.
 
b0ng said:
That's what I think too. I've also read, somewhere, that Art Briles has already stated interest in the job. We'll see if they pick him up and if he can do any better at TTU than he has at Baylor and did at Houston.
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Yeah, but in the emails...didn't I see where they were bashing Briles, as well?

As if he was being paid more than he should have been, at Baylor?

Can't recall exactly what was in the emails, but I swear there was some minor trash-talking about Briles. I do remember that they had HIGH praise for the TCU coach...only because he was being paid peanuts for what he had done with TCU's program.

In the end, TTU is cheap with how they operate. And I do feel that they have hurt themselves for the next several years. You can't come out of this deal unscathed, and TTU will have a lot of mending to do.

IMO, TTU is the school where Dallas-area rich kids go because they couldn't get into UT or A&M due to grades. So the rich parents feel snubbed, and they send their snotty kid off to Lubbock where they're the perfect fit for that sort of university. They love nothing more than to try and beat UT, OU, and A&M, as revenge or to make themselves feel better. Mike Leach gave them that chance to do exactly that, and now they are raising all kinds of hell because they might become weak again.

I'm as big of a TTU fan as any one else here, but it is what it is. TTU and Lubbock is a mediocre Texas university, clamoring for only a bit of what UT and OU has achieved. They're the powerhouse of mediocre Big 12 teams.

I like Ruffin McNeil a lot. Not sure if he could lead them the whole way, through a whole season, but I think he gets the job done in this bowl game.

I also feel the spread offense stays at TTU, no matter who comes in to coach. Those o-coord and assistants are going to stay and run that offense. IMO, they will gain a more mature head coach who is a better leader than Leach. Mike was a guy the players liked; the fans liked. But the new guy is going to be someone who isn't liked--He'll be RESPECTED.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Why does everybody refer to Adam James as a kid? He, like all others over 18, is an adult. An adult who needs his daddy to still hold his hand and wipe his ass, but an adult none the less.
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See, that's where I differ.

To me, all college students are kids who are trying to become adults.

They cry to their professors when they need one more point to get from 69 to 70 on their semester-end grades.

They whine when they fail to get registered for a class, and the class is full, and they end up begging everyone who will listen to them for the chance to either get into the class or get a class equivalent to be able to have the right workload.

They party like rock stars. Sleep in until noon whenever they can.

I think some parents put their kids out their on their own, and some (like Craig James has done) coddle the kid and keep them at kid level for too long.

To me, Mike Leach is the adult. Adam James is the kid. And Leach severely underestimated how much animosity the TTU administrators had toward him, and how close they were to being done with him.

It was the perfect storm of circumstances, but it was a storm that Mike Leach could have avoided had he taken the right direction with Adam James.

No Adam James, no problems.
 
GP said:
Yeah, but in the emails...didn't I see where they were bashing Briles, as well?

As if he was being paid more than he should have been, at Baylor?

Can't recall exactly what was in the emails, but I swear there was some minor trash-talking about Briles. I do remember that they had HIGH praise for the TCU coach...only because he was being paid peanuts for what he had done with TCU's program.

In the end, TTU is cheap with how they operate. And I do feel that they have hurt themselves for the next several years. You can't come out of this deal unscathed, and TTU will have a lot of mending to do.

IMO, TTU is the school where Dallas-area rich kids go because they couldn't get into UT or A&M due to grades. So the rich parents feel snubbed, and they send their snotty kid off to Lubbock where they're the perfect fit for that sort of university. They love nothing more than to try and beat UT, OU, and A&M, as revenge or to make themselves feel better. Mike Leach gave them that chance to do exactly that, and now they are raising all kinds of hell because they might become weak again.

I'm as big of a TTU fan as any one else here, but it is what it is. TTU and Lubbock is a mediocre Texas university, clamoring for only a bit of what UT and OU has achieved. They're the powerhouse of mediocre Big 12 teams.

I like Ruffin McNeil a lot. Not sure if he could lead them the whole way, through a whole season, but I think he gets the job done in this bowl game.

I also feel the spread offense stays at TTU, no matter who comes in to coach. Those o-coord and assistants are going to stay and run that offense. IMO, they will gain a more mature head coach who is a better leader than Leach. Mike was a guy the players liked; the fans liked. But the new guy is going to be someone who isn't liked--He'll be RESPECTED.
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Did you like Leach before this all happened?
 
Texas Tech just screwed themselves in multiple ways.

No, I didn't think Leach was an all world coach by any means. But he recruited well in a an area that is difficult to do so considering he has to draw from the same recruiting are as OU, UT and I think in time Sherman's going to get A&M back to a good place again. Gary Patterson at TCU is also making good case for kids to go there as well. Leach has done good job making a system out there that works with what he could recruit with the big boys in the big 12. Say what you will before Leach Tech was a scrappy team, but if he had a QB who knew his system they were highly competitive.

Also just likely screwed Leach's last recruiting class and after this fiasco they are going to have a difficult time getting a reputable head coach out there.

I don't think Leach comes out totally unscathed, but I doubt he has trouble finding at least some sort of employment quickly.
 
GP said:
See, that's where I differ.

To me, all college students are kids who are trying to become adults.

They cry to their professors when they need one more point to get from 69 to 70 on their semester-end grades.

They whine when they fail to get registered for a class, and the class is full, and they end up begging everyone who will listen to them for the chance to either get into the class or get a class equivalent to be able to have the right workload.

They party like rock stars. Sleep in until noon whenever they can.

I think some parents put their kids out their on their own, and some (like Craig James has done) coddle the kid and keep them at kid level for too long.
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Speak for yourself, I'm a proud Texas Tech alum and I worked my ass off to get my degree.
 
dc_txtech said:
Speak for yourself, I'm a proud Texas Tech alum and I worked my ass off to get my degree.
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Oh geez, get off the sauce for a second.

You know damn well that college students (I know, I used to be one!) are not anywhere near being the sort of adult that you grow into once you LEAVE college.

I was not knocking you, nor anyone else who has worked hard. I took 21 hours a semester and graduated in four years. I, too, worked very hard. But that doesn't mean I was the model "young adult" that we're discussing here.

In reality, Mike Leach could have been smarter.

And Adam James? He's just playing his role: Snotty college kid who had his daddy make a few phone calls. Maybe that's not how it works for you, nor I, but there's a boat-load of college kids whose parent(s) play an active role in their kids' college life. Especially when it comes to authority figures who try to grow the kid up a little.
 
b0ng said:
Did you like Leach before this all happened?
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About a month ago, I was getting a haircut in a local SportsClip.

The TTU game was on the big screen as I waited, and a guy next to me was NOT a Red Raider fan. He and I were talking, and I said "You know what? This year I am just not high on Mike Leach anymore. His act has worn thin for me. I'm kinda' getting tired of his antics, and the team is really just a powerhouse of mediocre Big 12 teams."

So, "Yes," I did like him before this happened.

But the "fat little girlfriends" comment, and how Potts wore "Nick" on the back of his jersey, and playing Sheffield when Sheffield had only one good foot to scramble on, instead of playing Potts (who was at least able to scramble a little, compared to Sheffield at the time) was it for me.

It was a culmination of weird, eccentric actions that made me start to think that Mike Leach had gone too far down that road he built in his own imagination/world.

I hate it that it ended up like this. I really do. I think the University had reasons to do what it did, and that things were at a boiling point anyway. Had it not been for Adam James and Craig James, I think Mike Leach is coaching at TTU right now.

And that, IMO, is the fault of the person who took on Adam James and then refused to get rid of him. Can't fault Leach for trying to trust Adam James and to try and coach him up. But there were red flags there, for Leach, and I feel he sort of ignored the warning signs. And it cost him.

TTU does not like to pay a lot of $$$ for coaches. They know they are not a UT or OU or A&M. They just want to carve out a little space for themselves, and plug away with a low-budget approach in most cases. Small West Texas town, small-town coaches with folksy charm, etc. Leach's intellect and maneuvering scared the hell out of them. They just want someone who won't rock the boat and who will plug away and mind their coaching business and just accept what money is offered 'em.

I hope Leach lands somewhere, and I hope he does well.
 
GP said:
See, that's where I differ.

To me, all college students are kids who are trying to become adults.

They cry to their professors when they need one more point to get from 69 to 70 on their semester-end grades.

They whine when they fail to get registered for a class, and the class is full, and they end up begging everyone who will listen to them for the chance to either get into the class or get a class equivalent to be able to have the right workload.

They party like rock stars. Sleep in until noon whenever they can.

I think some parents put their kids out their on their own, and some (like Craig James has done) coddle the kid and keep them at kid level for too long.

To me, Mike Leach is the adult. Adam James is the kid. And Leach severely underestimated how much animosity the TTU administrators had toward him, and how close they were to being done with him.

It was the perfect storm of circumstances, but it was a storm that Mike Leach could have avoided had he taken the right direction with Adam James.

No Adam James, no problems.
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James was a redshirt sophomore which makes him around 21. Well past the point of needing his daddy to step in on his behalf.

My biggest concern is a replacement who can recruit as well as Leach did, something I don't think will be done easily.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
James was a redshirt sophomore which makes him around 21. Well past the point of needing his daddy to step in on his behalf.

My biggest concern is a replacement who can recruit as well as Leach did, something I don't think will be done easily.
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I think TTU's coach, whoever it might be, should tell recruits and their parents that Mike Leach was valuable, but that the team moves on and the team is set to fire on all guns because of the system and the returning players.

As coach, I'd make sure those parents and players knew that the same system is in place, and that the assistants ran the offense anyways.

And in addition, I'd close the deal with this: "Now, there's a head coach--ME--who isn't going to pull weird crap with your son. Same system. Same assistants. More mature leadership. If your son desires to come to Texas Tech, we're going to take care of him. I promise you that."

Which will only confirm what TTU has been selling the past few days: "TTU is dedicated to shaping young men, and guiding them in proper manners."

Boom.

Let Leach throw stones from the cheap seats, and let's see who wins the contest. He's on the short end of the stick. It's just how life works.
 
GP said:
I think TTU's coach, whoever it might be, should tell recruits and their parents that Mike Leach was valuable, but that the team moves on and the team is set to fire on all guns because of the system and the returning players.

As coach, I'd make sure those parents and players knew that the same system is in place, and that the assistants ran the offense anyways.

And in addition, I'd close the deal with this: "Now, there's a head coach--ME--who isn't going to pull weird crap with your son. Same system. Same assistants. More mature leadership. If your son desires to come to Texas Tech, we're going to take care of him. I promise you that."

Which will only confirm what TTU has been selling the past few days: "TTU is dedicated to shaping young men, and guiding them in proper manners."

Boom.

Let Leach throw stones from the cheap seats, and let's see who wins the contest. He's on the short end of the stick. It's just how life works.
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And what did Ruffin McNeil say in his first remarks after winning the game?

"I've already told parents that I will take care of their most prized possession: Their kids."

Smart man. He knows what the TTU motto is.

I think they give him one year, to keep continuity and momentum going.
 
GP said:
See, that's where I differ.

To me, all college students are kids who are trying to become adults.

They cry to their professors when they need one more point to get from 69 to 70 on their semester-end grades.

They whine when they fail to get registered for a class, and the class is full, and they end up begging everyone who will listen to them for the chance to either get into the class or get a class equivalent to be able to have the right workload.

They party like rock stars. Sleep in until noon whenever they can.

I think some parents put their kids out their on their own, and some (like Craig James has done) coddle the kid and keep them at kid level for too long.

To me, Mike Leach is the adult. Adam James is the kid. And Leach severely underestimated how much animosity the TTU administrators had toward him, and how close they were to being done with him.

It was the perfect storm of circumstances, but it was a storm that Mike Leach could have avoided had he taken the right direction with Adam James.

No Adam James, no problems.
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I guess I was still a kid in your eyes in college even though I worked 40 hours a week to pay my way, made good grades and still partied my ass off. I also didnt know that many people that bitched to a prof for a better grade, when once the grades are posted there is nothing you can do about it.
 
LonerATO said:
I guess I was still a kid in your eyes in college even though I worked 40 hours a week to pay my way, made good grades and still partied my ass off. I also didnt know that many people that bitched to a prof for a better grade, when once the grades are posted there is nothing you can do about it.
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(Sigh)

Well, you are in the minority. As was I.

I already posted a response to the "But I was special" poster to explain it better.

If you think the majority of college students are like you, and me, you're wrong. They come in droves, in their mom and dad's SUVs and get weekly allowances from them. I should know, I worked for 3 years as a recruiter at a four-year college and part of my job duties was to help with freshman orientation.

I was arguing that Adam James is your typical college student.

You were not. I was not. But you and I do not typify America's college culture. I was saying, once again, that Mike Leach is the adult and Adam James was the snotty kid. I think that description fits. The adult should have refused to let the kid be on the team. Seems an easy fix, to me.

There's a lot of Craig and Adam James in the college world. Mommies and daddies who bail out their child and have a stranglehold on the kid's life. It naturally slows the maturing process. For the TYPICAL college student in today's American colleges, they're very much un-adult and still a kid.
 
Texas Tech would be foolish not to hire Ruffin as the next head coach, I think.

And from everything I have seen and heard it appears that Leach is going to kick some serious ass in court.
 
I would think they'd offer him some type of financial settlement rather than some long court proceedings...

but I don't know what makes Tech tick...maybe they think they can't lose in court.

I heard Coach Leach's attorney on the Dallas ESPN station and let's just say I'm surprised he hired that guy! He seemed very unprepared for the radio interview and was not very well spoken. I was surprised. He's probably high dollar. I thought he'd be more polished sounding.
 
WWJD said:
I would think they'd offer him some type of financial settlement rather than some long court proceedings...

but I don't know what makes Tech tick...maybe they think they can't lose in court.

I heard Coach Leach's attorney on the Dallas ESPN station and let's just say I'm surprised he hired that guy! He seemed very unprepared for the radio interview and was not very well spoken. I was surprised. He's probably high dollar. I thought he'd be more polished sounding.
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I thought the same thing. He sounded like he was caught totally off guard.
 
bah007 said:
I thought the same thing. He sounded like he was caught totally off guard.
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Right! I heard that guy and I thought this is the best Coach Leach can get??

He didn't sound like a high dollar attorney definitely! And I'm sure he is...

even the ESPN guys there in Dallas were saying they couldn't believe how the interview went.

Hope he does better in court! Must be a family member of Coach Leach's!
 
A few of us have been talking about Leach's antics before this. I think it was the Texas game or one of them where he pulled the fans off the players and pulled the benches so noone could sit down.

There will be more to this story if it ever comes out, Leach has been pushing the limits of coaching in todays world for a while. You can't treat players like Bear Bryant and the "Junction Boys" anymore.
 
I think the players know which side their bread is buttered on, especially the underclassmen, and got fired up trying to win a starting spot next year. Leach wasn't the most popular coach, but I think he was the brains of the operation and the one was is able to make adjustments and change things as needed. If they hire they Ruf, then Tech is in for a slide for a few years while he figures out the whole head coach thing. It's one thing to take over the reins for a team already trained. It's another to do the training yourself knowing each team is different.
 
I heard on the Dallas ESPN radio show that Tommy Tubberville was going to be interviewed by Tech..he wants the job. Badly.

Hmmm...
 
WWJD said:
I heard on the Dallas ESPN radio show that Tommy Tubberville was going to be interviewed by Tech..he wants the job. Badly.

Hmmm...
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I think he's got the name recognition that TT would likely desire, but I don't think his past experience with running a spread offense bodes well for his chances.

I honestly expect a big push for Art Briles in the coming week or I believe the OC at Houston used to be the same position at Tech. I think both have experience with the offense that Leach ran and what will keep them competitive in the Big 12. Administration also has to keep in mind that this year's recruiting class will likely hinge on the decision.
 
Goldensilence said:
I think he's got the name recognition that TT would likely desire, but I don't think his past experience with running a spread offense bodes well for his chances.

I honestly expect a big push for Art Briles in the coming week or I believe the OC at Houston used to be the same position at Tech. I think both have experience with the offense that Leach ran and what will keep them competitive in the Big 12. Administration also has to keep in mind that this year's recruiting class will likely hinge on the decision.
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I don't think anybody will be able to pull Briles out of Baylor until Robert Griffin graduates.
 
Briles has said he's not leaving Baylor, and he has a $4 mill buy out on his contract right now from what was said on the radio. He's a logical choice, but I don't think TT will pony up the money for that and a new contract.

I think they may leave Ruffin and the AC staff in for the continuity and $avings, and ride the storm out with Leach in court to see what they may owe him.
 
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Rumor floating around these parts that Briles is still in the running and may even be the frontrunner. Keyword rumor.
 
4Texans said:
Briles has said he's not leaving Baylor, and he has a $4 mill buy out on his contract right now from what was said on the radio. He's a logical choice, but I don't think TT will pony up the money for that and a new contract.

I think they may leave Ruffin and the AC staff in for the continuity and $avings, and ride the storm out with Leach in court to see what they may owe him.
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That's my exact thinking on this issue.

Ruffin ensures that the momentum is not lost. Plus, he'll be as cheap as TTU likes to pay its coaches. It's a win-win situation for TTU.

Briles ain't coming to TTU. The dollars from TTU are not there for it to happen, especially with a lawsuit awaiting them.

Tommy Toobervilla, to me, is just so not the guy that TTU needs. He doesn't represent what TTU is.

Honestly, TTU is using Tubaville to get Ruffin to agree to a low salary. Without any competition for the spot, Ruffin's price would be higher. With a synthetic candidate (Tumorville) they have bargaining power.

"Well, Ruffin...we have Tommy looking pretty hard at this gig. What do you say we give you x-amount of money." And Ruffin says, "OK."
 
To me Ruffin is just Spyke after starring in "Soulman", and dammit I was there the when Zebby Lethridge was QB, when Hansbard racked up 2000 yards and a 0.0 GPA ( and then told everyone that God told him to enter the draft). And I refuse to believe that returnign to those days is whats best for Tech. Spyke was a good guy who did not graduate players and that was just ****ing embarssing. Nor did he win that many games.

My preferred canidates would be Briles, Tubberville and Lincoln Riley (sp?).

Ruffin and Dykes' kid will lead to me not being in Lubbock for the foreseeable future.

AND dammit I miss the calzones at One Guy's!!!!
 
Craig James considering a run at Hutchinson's senate seat.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/james-being-considered-for-senate-seat-80955427.html

Former SMU football star and ESPN Analyst Craig James has made news recently regarding his role with his son and former Texas Tech Football Coach Mike Leach. But James could be making news this year in politics, too.

His name is being tossed around as a possible candidate to run for Kay Bailey Hutchison's seat when she resigns.

News 8 talked to James who confirmed he is interested in getting involved in Republican Party politics, and he's not ruling out a run for office.
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Another reason that Tech may want to keep Ruffin is that he will be easier to fire. If you bring someone in from the outside you have to give them three or four years. If you promote Ruffin and don't like the results, you can let him go anytime and not look dirty.
 
I heard Tommy Tubberville on the Dallas ESPN station..he said he thinks they will make a decision soon.

And he said he told them he wouldn't change the offense at all but he would make their defense a blitzing lights out defense.
 
Good. He has said since the day Leach was gone he wanted that job...he'll do well I think. He's excited about TT. I do know that from hearing him talk about his interview.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
To me Ruffin is just Spyke after starring in "Soulman", and dammit I was there the when Zebby Lethridge was QB, when Hansbard racked up 2000 yards and a 0.0 GPA ( and then told everyone that God told him to enter the draft). And I refuse to believe that returnign to those days is whats best for Tech. Spyke was a good guy who did not graduate players and that was just ****ing embarssing. Nor did he win that many games.

My preferred canidates would be Briles, Tubberville and Lincoln Riley (sp?).

Ruffin and Dykes' kid will lead to me not being in Lubbock for the foreseeable future.

AND dammit I miss the calzones at One Guy's!!!!
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I was against Tuberville coming to Tech, but I guess I will have to trust that it will work out. My concern was him changing the offense, but it seems he's going to at least give it one year.

I suppose Ruffin will be fired so that Tubby can hire his own choice; someone who will be better (In Tubby's mind, at least) than Ruffin.

Kinda' sucks that Ruffin is going to be kicked to the curb like this, though. If he ends up being collateral damage, like how I think it will go down, then that's just not what I like to see.

I don't see how Tech's defense can get any more blitz happy than they already are. Seems to me they were very spirited and very committed to being a fast, tough defense. I think the talent level is what needs to rise a bit.

Man, this is a trip. Hope it all works out.
 
I forgot all about the Zebbie Lethridge era there at Tech, until you mentioned it.

I can remember as far back as Billy Joe Tolliver, and I think I was a really small kid at that time. Maybe 4 or 5.

I grew up on a cotton farm just north of Shallowater, which is near Lubbock. There is no other stronger memory than growing up in Red Raider Land and how much that team meant to the area.

I can see how your comparison of Dykes to Ruffin is plausible.
 
GP said:
I was against Tuberville coming to Tech, but I guess I will have to trust that it will work out. My concern was him changing the offense, but it seems he's going to at least give it one year.

I suppose Ruffin will be fired so that Tubby can hire his own choice; someone who will be better (In Tubby's mind, at least) than Ruffin.

Kinda' sucks that Ruffin is going to be kicked to the curb like this, though. If he ends up being collateral damage, like how I think it will go down, then that's just not what I like to see.

I don't see how Tech's defense can get any more blitz happy than they already are. Seems to me they were very spirited and very committed to being a fast, tough defense. I think the talent level is what needs to rise a bit.

Man, this is a trip. Hope it all works out.
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This is weird but the sports radio station I listen out here is a subsidiary of ESPN Lubbock, so whether I am a fan or not I get a lot of Tech sports info.

They have been saying that part of the condition of him accepting the job was that the current staff stayed in place.
 
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