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Wolf

Wolf

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TCU and Boise state fiesta bowl

they need to take that blonde off of the TV, I don't even know what he is saying

Ducks and Buckeyes in the rose
 
Fiesta: Boise State vs TCU

awesome. the BCS ensures that no mid-major team gets the chance to upset one of their precious big schools. **** the BCS
 
Should be a fun Fiesta Bowl. The winner should be second in the final poll. I don't see Cincy winning myself, whoever they play.
 
Thats ****ing bull ****!!! Those schools deserve to play BCS schools to see how they stack up. Those teams got shafted by the bowls, I ****ing hate the BCS.

Seriously, this is crap. It is the bowls covering their collective asses, this way no BCS school loses not a non-BCS school. TCU or Boise State wont be able to say "hey, we beat a big guy, why dont we get a chance?". I love college football, but I hate this point. Hate hate hate hate hate.
 
rmartin65 said:
Thats ****ing bull ****!!! Those schools deserve to play BCS schools to see how they stack up. Those teams got shafted by the bowls, I ****ing hate the BCS.

Seriously, this is crap. It is the bowls covering their collective asses, this way no BCS school loses not a non-BCS school. TCU or Boise State wont be able to say "hey, we beat a big guy, why dont we get a chance?". I love college football, but I hate this point. Hate hate hate hate hate.
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Whoever wins will finish ahead of the 1-2 loss major schools anyway.
 
Dan B. said:
Yeah but then you'd end up with multiple undefeated teams. I like the fact that two unbeaten teams are going head to head in two different games.
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I like the matchup but it doesnt help TCU or Boise State prove they can play with the big boys.

They cant get in the Title Game because of their conference and schedules yet when they are good enough to get into the big game and play those big guys they match them up instead?

They cant get respect if theyre not given those matchups.
 
cincy vs gators in sugar bowl will the gators suffer from sec champ game hangover like the tide last year?
this might be kellys last game as coach of the bearcats
 
Dan B. said:
Well there are 5 unbeatens. Someone is getting left out.
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good. i'd rather two mid-majors go up against two BCS teams than two mid-majors play each other. horrible, horrible, retarded dumbass idea, and the BCS is loving it sooo much. **** them.
 
mariowillshine15 said:
I like the matchup but it doesnt help TCU or Boise State prove they can play with the big boys.
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Neither does their schedule

They cant get in the Title Game because of their conference and schedules yet when they are good enough to get into the big game and play those big guys they match them up instead?

They cant get respect if theyre not given those matchups.
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The winner will be ranked ahead of all of those teams. The fact that they are ranked higher might indicate that they are respected.
 
I don't know the priority of selections, but from a business/regional standpoint I can see why the fiesta would go this route. Outside of that i would rather see TCU beat on the overrated Big Ten or ACC.
 
kastofsna said:
which will mean absolutely nothing.
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Why would it mean anything if TCU beat Oregon and ended up fourth?

Or Boise State beat Oklahoma to finish sixth?

At least this way TCU and Boise are playing a legit opponent with something on the line.
 
Dan B. said:
Why would it mean anything if TCU beat Oregon and ended up fourth?

Or Boise State beat Oklahoma to finish sixth?
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it would mean they beat highly ranked BCS schools, which means much more than anything else, obviously. NO ONE cares about the final rankings, except for who is #1.
 
kastofsna said:
it would mean they beat highly ranked BCS schools, which means much more than anything else, obviously. NO ONE cares about the final rankings, except for who is #1.
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Umm if Cincy wins than whoever wins the Fiesta Bowl will have beaten a higher ranked BCS school than any of the teams you would prefer they face.
 
true.. only game really means anything in the grand scheme of things is the championship game

I hate the BSCS also

I can't imagine that the revenue wouldn't be a lot more if it were a playoff system like pretty much all of college sports except the football

makes no sense to me also
 
I think the powers to be .loves the controversy with a NC and other teams that are still undefeated ... keeps the college talk going for a while
 
kastofsna said:
cincy is a BCS school.
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Which is why I said IF they win. If Florida wins than Florida would have beaten a higher ranked opponent than TCU/BSU, since Cincinnati is probably going to be the highest ranked of the three.

The point is this. The top 5 teams are going to be Alabama, UT, Cincinnati, TCU, and BSU. There is no way that any of them could gain credibility from beating a team ranked below these teams.
 
Dan B. said:
Which is why I said they have to win. If Florida wins than Florida would have beaten a higher ranked opponent than TCU/BSU, since Cincinnati is probably going to be the highest ranked of the three.

The point is this. The top 5 teams are going to be Alabama, UT, Cincinnati, TCU, and BSU. There is no way that any of them could gain credibility from beating a team ranked below these teams.
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you don't get college football. that's fine.
 
kastofsna said:
you don't get college football. that's fine.
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I get math. I understand that beating #4 or #6 means more than beating a team ranked 11th.

I like when highly ranked teams play each other. You'd prefer they don't. That's fine.
 
Well, Coogs back to the Armed Forces Bowl against Air Force for the second straight year.

Had a good time last year and will go again. Wish we were going to Memphis instead.
 
mariowillshine15 said:
Whats interesting is that Cincinatti is #3 in the BCS. They would of been in the title game not TCU if Texas would of lost.
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That is what I was just thinking. Thank gawd the Horns pulled it off last night because if Texas would have lost the consolation for me would have been seeing TCU play in the Championship game. However that wouldn't have happened either.
 
Showtime100 said:
Everything else is just boring.
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I completely agree that the Fiesta Bowl will be way more exciting to watch than any of the other bowl games. I know I'm going to watch it.

What if the Fiesta Bowl gets equal ratings to the NC Game?

How could the BCS say that undefeated midmajor teams don't have drawing power if that happens?
 
Dan B. said:
I completely agree that the Fiesta Bowl will be way more exciting to watch than any of the other bowl games. I know I'm going to watch it.

What if the Fiesta Bowl gets equal ratings to the NC Game?

How could the BCS say that undefeated midmajor teams don't have drawing power if that happens?
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The NC game will always outdraw all the others just because of what is on the line.
 
Dan B. said:
I completely agree that the Fiesta Bowl will be way more exciting to watch than any of the other bowl games. I know I'm going to watch it.

What if the Fiesta Bowl gets equal ratings to the NC Game?

How could the BCS say that undefeated midmajor teams don't have drawing power if that happens?
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That won't happen.

I honestly can't get very excited about that Fiesta Bowl game. I would have rather seen TCU play Florida. For some reason I just can't take a team seriously that plays on blue turf.
 
Hookem Horns said:
That won't happen.

I honestly can't get very excited about that Fiesta Bowl game. I would have rather seen TCU play Florida. For some reason I just can't take a team seriously that plays on blue turf.
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I think TCU and Florida are very similar to each other. I think they would give us a great defensive battle.

I also think that Boise St and Cincinnati are very similar. I think they would give us a great wide open shootout.

TCU-Boise St will be a great game but it's demeaning to all non-BCS schools that this has to happen. It's a no win situation for whoever wins the game because all they did was beat an "overrated team from a weak conference".
 
bah007 said:
The NC game will always outdraw all the others just because of what is on the line.
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I don't think it can outdraw the game, and yeah, I think pretty much anyone watching the Fiesta Bowl is going to watch the BCS Championship as well. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of excitement over either of the teams in the big game.

Still if the Fiesta Bowl beats the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, and the Sugar, then the midmajor teams would have some powerful ammo. People love an underdog. Any defense of overlooking an undefeated team in favor of a mediocre major conference champion would ring hollow.
 
bah007 said:
I think TCU and Florida are very similar to each other. I think they would give us a great defensive battle.

I also think that Boise St and Cincinnati are very similar. I think they would give us a great wide open shootout.

TCU-Boise St will be a great game but it's demeaning to all non-BCS schools that this has to happen. It's a no win situation for whoever wins the game because all they did was beat an "overrated team from a weak conference".
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They would be second or third in the country. The loser would still be a top 6 team. Neither one loses any credibility by losing, and they gain more from facing each other than they would any other team save Cincy and MAYBE Florida. I don't think it's demeaning to non BCS schools to have 2 teams in the top 6 . I would have preferred TCU vs Cincy (I think BSU is all offense and expect TCU to win the game), but it would be more demeaning if they all were forced to play different crappy midlevel teams that won their conference and all finished undefeated. This way we know who's better.
 
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Dan B. said:
They would be second or third in the country. The loser would still be a top 6 team. Neither one loses any credibility by losing, and they gain more from facing each other than they would any other team save Cincy and MAYBE Florida. I don't think it's demeaning to non BCS schools to have 2 teams in the top 6 . I would have preferred TCU vs Cincy (I think BSU is all offense and expect TCU to win the game), but it would be more demeaning if they all were forced to play different crappy midlevel teams that won their conference and all finished undefeated. This way we know who's better.
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We know who the better non-BCS team is. But if gives us no indication of how they would stack up against Florida or any of the other BCS schools. I do see the appeal of the game, but I also think it was set up this way so that the powers that be could protect their BCS schools from potentially losing to a team from a weaker conference.
 
bah007 said:
We know who the better non-BCS team is. But if gives us no indication of how they would stack up against Florida or any of the other BCS schools. I do see the appeal of the game, but I also think it was set up this way so that the powers that be could protect their BCS schools from potentially losing to a team from a weaker conference.
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I think it makes sense from the Fiesta Bowl's standpoint and can see why they would pick those teams. Phoenix is a relatively easy trip from Dallas and Boise, they are two well respected top ranked teams that knowledgeable college fans are familiar with, they know each other (familiarity breeds contempt?), and they play exciting football. Most importantly, neither one has lost. They are certainly going to be primed to play each other. The ingredients are perfect for a great game.
 
Dan B. said:
I think it makes sense from the Fiesta Bowl's standpoint. Phoenix is a relatively easy trip from Dallas and Boise, they are two well respected top ranked teams that knowledgeable college fans are familiar with, they know each other (familiarity breeds contempt?), and they play exciting football.
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If one of these teams was playing Florida in the Sugar Bowl they would be a 10 point underdog or worse because the bias is still out there that they are inferior programs. With this bowl setup, they don't even get the opportunity to challenge that bias.

Dan B. said:
Most importantly, neither one has lost. They are certainly going to be primed to play each other. The ingredients are perfect for a great game.
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I do think it will be a fantastic game. Kellen Moore will want revenge for the worst performance of his career and TCU is trying to prove that they belong in the same sentence as Alabama, Texas, and Florida.
 
the Fiesta won't outdraw the others because people want to see mid-majors face big teams. they don't want to see them face each other.
 
kastofsna said:
the Fiesta won't outdraw the others because people want to see mid-majors face big teams. they don't want to see them face each other.
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True

That's why the bowl matchups were set up this way.

So the non BCS schools dont get a chance to prove their mettle against the big boys.

It's just another way the BCS schools rig it to keep thw status quo.

BTW didn't TCU and Boise St play against each other in a bowl game last year?
 
steelbtexan said:
True

That's why the bowl matchups were set up this way.

So the non BCS schools dont get a chance to prove their mettle against the big boys.

It's just another way the BCS schools rig it to keep thw status quo.

BTW didn't TCU and Boise St play against each other in a bowl game last year?
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Yes.

TCU handed Boise its only loss in the last two years.

Think Boise remembers?
 
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