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Draft Eve, what are you thinking on the first pick now that all the info is out?

Vinny

Vinny

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I started this thread at the .com so I'll start one here. All the info is in, and the hypotheticals are off the chart. It's time to fish or cut bait and the waiting is over. I've posted these thoughts in a few threads but I figure I'd start this thread to check back on later in the year. On Draft eve, what is your logic behind your first pick desires?

Right now I'm thinking Vunta (he has to change the way he spells his name so we can have matching CB's if he comes here) Davis if we go CB, Rey Maualuga if all the linebackers are on the board, or a running back that will help us win on 3rd and short and first and goal. While we were a team that churned out lots of yardage, we lost a ton of goal line and 3rd and short situations on both offense and on defense. Converting those situations keeps the defense off the field and turns 3 points into 7. Rey Maualuga does the same thing that Wells would do for the offense for the D - win that battle for short space, extending drives and punching in (or stopping) TD's. I'm hoping we become stronger in short space next season. That's the reasoning behind my first round draft logic.
 
I like your picks. I'd be quite content with any of the USC linebackers, any of the top RB prospects, either of the top 2 DB prospects, or one of the top 4 tackles.

I really woudl prefer us not to draft a DL this year unless its Orakpo. No DTs are worth our pick imo (for whatever reason, I have concerns about Raji and don't think he'll be there anyway) and don't like any of the other lower ranking prospects because of their 1 dimensionality. I just don't think we are that good at developing DTs, and am tired of hearing how much potential our DL has.

I think I'll be happy this year because it really seems like theirs a lot of ways we can go

Heres my philosophy: Kubiak is a great offensive coach with great offensive scouting ability. Let him pick BPA for someone he knows how to work with and turn that guy into a stud. If we draft another RB and we find ourselves crowded with 2 legitimate #1 RBs, trade one for more picks in the future or another player of equal caliber that he can't devleop on his own. LIke the Portis/Bailey deal. Im tired of picking DL and getting so little return (with the exception of Mario obviously). Lets pick guys we know we can make work
 
Vinny I think you and I share alot of the same thoughts. I am a big Rey fan and it seems that interest on this board has dropped as well as on other media outlets. We dog Rey for potentially not being a 3 down LB, but guess what, someone in the top 20 picks will take him. Vunta is the wild card. He need a corner, but is he the right corner. And Moreno or Wells would be a great combo to pair with Slaton. Nevermind this "we dont draft RB in round 1" mentality. Here is what I want to do if we stick at #15.

Rey Maualuga (DeMeco moves or gets traded)

I dont want to pass on him and see the Chargers get a MLB sledge hammer for their 3-4 defense.
 
Super Mario said:
Vinny I think you and I share alot of the same thoughts. I am a big Rey fan and it seems that interest on this board has dropped as well as on other media outlets. We dog Rey for potentially being a 3 down LB, but guess what, someone in the top 20 picks will take him. Vunta is the wild card. He need a corner, but is he the right corner. And Moreno or Wells would be a great combo to pair with Slaton. Nevermind this "we dont draft RB in round 1" mentality. Here is what I want to do if we stick at #15.

Rey Maualuga (DeMeco moves or gets traded)

I dont want to pass on him and see the Chargers get a MLB sledge hammer for their 3-4 defense.
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I think if you stop teams on first or second down and create more 3rd and longs you create an ideal environment for your defense. Also, drafting a big time thumper for the middle helps this team in it's weakest spot...short yardage situations. I'd move DeMeco all over the field to take advantage of mismatches then I'd move him into the middle in obvious passing situations.
 
I want what Kubiak said a 1st round pick should be. Someone who comes in and starts and makes a difference that will translate into more wins.

Offense, defense, whatever. So far this draft year I've been for defense in the 1st couple of rounds, but after constant hanging out at this place all week, I'm beginning to see the logic behind an offensive player in the 1st round. I still don't think that will happen though. But, with the right RB taken in the 1st round, our offense moves from above average to scary. I can live with that. :)
 
If we take a RB in round 1 to complement Slaton...what do we do about Slaton's contract? Don't you think he'd take it badly if a rookie who is being used to complement him is making more money than him?
 
gtexan02 said:
If we take a RB in round 1 to complement Slaton...what do we do about Slaton's contract? Don't you think he'd take it badly if a rookie who is being used to complement him is making more money than him?
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I don't think we will worry about his feelings. Chris Johnson was great last year but fatso scored a ton of TD's in short space and took all the slobberknocker hits on 3rd and short. Take away White and Johnson probably gets more worn down and probably less effective over the course of the season. White helps extend Johnson's career.
 
gtexan02 said:
If we take a RB in round 1 to complement Slaton...what do we do about Slaton's contract? Don't you think he'd take it badly if a rookie who is being used to complement him is making more money than him?
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Slaton seems like a stand up guy to me. I'm not sure he'd take it to bad (publicly anyway) for this season. But you bet he'd want a raise quickly if his performance remains the same or improves. Slaton is a quality back, and will be paid like one by us or someone else, you can count on that.
 
im hoping we take one of everette brown, maybin or jenkins @ 15. i think adding a de/olb type will really be a key piece even to what we want to do next year on defence even if they arent full time starters.

at the same time id love to have jenkins because he shouldnt be available at our pick
 
I would love it if we could trade down far or two smaller trade downs, get into the late 20s or even into the 30s and grab Delmas while stockpiling some other picks. I would also be alright if they threw a bit of a curveball and took Peria Jerry at 15 or just after. Cushing or Matthews would be fine with me and I also like Vontae Davis. There are really a lot of scenarios I could get behind pretty easily, I am really looking forward to this draft and it would be tough for them to do something I really hated.
 
We could field a competitive team as it stands now, so there's really no position we have to draft in the first. So, really, the idea is to pick the best player available at a position of reason.

Provided there's no trade, the top 6 players (that are expected to be at/around our pick) I'd like to have, on offense and defense respectively, are Brandon Pettigrew, Knowshown Moreno, Donald Brown, Malcom Jenkins, Rey Maulauga, and Peria Jerry.

I'd be willing to trade up (within reason) for Curry or Raji. But, my ultimate preference is to trade out of the first round entirely for a future first round pick.

The 15th spot isn't a great spot to be at, but let's hope Smith & Co. can make something out of it.
 
Like most of us here I've got very strong sentiments about what the Texans priorities should be for this weekend, but funny thing Rick and Gary failed again this year to call me for my council ? As far as what ther're priorities truely are, I have no clue beyond what they've publicly said and I'm confidant that's not the whole story. I'll just have to wait and see like everybody else ?
 
I think it's gonna be one of the Ohio State guys...Jenkins or Wells..If they're both on the clock when we pick then I think we'll go with Jenkins...
 
Vinny said:
I started this thread at the .com so I'll start one here. All the info is in, and the hypotheticals are off the chart. It's time to fish or cut bait and the waiting is over. I've posted these thoughts in a few threads but I figure I'd start this thread to check back on later in the year. On Draft eve, what is your logic behind your first pick desires?

Right now I'm thinking Vunta (he has to change the way he spells his name so we can have matching CB's if he comes here) Davis if we go CB, Rey Maualuga if all the linebackers are on the board, or a running back that will help us win on 3rd and short and first and goal. While we were a team that churned out lots of yardage, we lost a ton of goal line and 3rd and short situations on both offense and on defense. Converting those situations keeps the defense off the field and turns 3 points into 7. Rey Maualuga does the same thing that Wells would do for the offense for the D - win that battle for short space, extending drives and punching in (or stopping) TD's. I'm hoping we become stronger in short space next season. That's the reasoning behind my first round draft logic.
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First of all, I desperately want a trade down, even if we get less than "fair" value. I think most agree that the talent level in the 2nd through 4th rounds are very close to what is available in the top 1/2 of the first, particularly on defense. Primarily though, I believe our team needs are at positions that can be best addressed in the mid rounds: RB, OC/OG, S... those are positions traditionally that can be drafted well in the mid rounds.

If Aaron Curry slips, then I would love to see a trade up to get him.

I will be very upset if we don't come out of the first 4 rounds with a promising interior line prospect. I have no faith in Kasey Studdard or Chris White, CPItts will be a FA next year and CMyers and Briesel are less than spectacular.

I also want to see two RBs come out of this draft. It's a very deep class and we have nothing after Slaton. I'm very optimistic about this season but an injury to Slaton without adequately adding depth to the position ruins our season! so, I'm hoping we get one of these guys: Moreno, Well, DBrown, SGreene, RJennings, JRinger, A. Brown, GCoffee. Then, someone from this group: Gattrel Johnson, Javaris Williams, K. Sheets, PJ Hill, Ian Johnson, C Peerman.
 
I'd love to have a thumper in the middle and let Demeco use his instincts and athleticism on the outside w/ June and Adibi. I think that makes are defense instantly better.

Maualuga brings the nasty incredient to our D and that's something we need to get to the next level. However, I also really like Laurinaitis and think he'd be a great addition if we trade back.

Matthews or Cushing would be solid and keep Demeco in the middle, but I think Rey or James makes are defense tougher to run on.

With that said, I'm also excited about Knowshon Moreno. He and Slaton would be a helluva 1-2 punch and give us some interesting options to split them out in different formations.

Finally, I think a pass rusher could be a target if someone they like slips or we trade back (Maybin, Brown or Johnson).

Cheering from Camp Slayer in Baghdad!
 
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60876

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1. Clay Matthews - OLB - I think he's more durable than Cushing plus he's got more upside . He's also a great special teams player .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7dA3UttUM

2. Alphoso Smith - CB - This pick I to used the cherry picking device some . A good player who's a bit undersized , provides Dunta insurance .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9C6JWaoPg

3. Chip Vaughn - SS - last of a dying breed . A 6'1 220 pounder who runs a 4.4 forty . When you play the Titans and Jags twice a year ... you need a SS who brings the lumber .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sgbGgTFZ6k

4. Rashad Jennings - RB - Compliment to Slaton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEpJMNzBZ1k

4b. Tyrone Green - G - Give me an SEC Guard any day of the week .

5. Nate Davis - QB- Good value plus a talented guy to develop cause you never know about Schaub .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46I0s...eature=related

6. Henry Melton - DE - has the potential to be a good pass rusher .

7. Tyrell Sutton - RB - After Slaton , we're kinda thin at RB . Sutton is a smart , hard working guy , who's more quick than fast . I watched him in the Alamo Bowl vs Missouri and he looked like the fastest guy on the field ... hmmm .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlfSbIwM_iI
 
I am on record as being against a RB under virtually any circumstances in rd 1, and I will fall over dead if they select one.

I suspect strongly they will try very hard to trade down. If they go corner, I suspect they take Darius Butler from Uconn and not Davis.

I am not as big of fan of Rey for this defense as some others. I see him as a 2 down LB who is a major liability in coverage. I like him better as a ILB in a 3/4. I prefer Matthews or Laurinaitis as my first choices, and Cushing as a decent choice as well. I am not sold on Rey for this D.

I doubt we go dline in the first, but there are certainly some candidates. I truly think it's one of the LB with a chance of a CB. I think anyone who honestly and truly thinks we are drafting a RB in rd 1 needs to stop smoking the good stuff. We are going D. I would stake my repuation on it.

Right now, my guess is Matthews, but the other two I mentioned would not surprise me and I would be happy with either one. I would be surprised if Vinny's choice becomes a Texan. Not seeing that.
 
Porky said:
I am on record as being against a RB under virtually any circumstances in rd 1, and I will fall over dead if they select one.

I suspect strongly they will try very hard to trade down. If they go corner, I suspect they take Darius Butler from Uconn and not Davis.

I am not as big of fan of Rey for this defense as some others. I see him as a 2 down LB who is a major liability in coverage. I like him better as a ILB in a 3/4. I prefer Matthews or Laurinaitis as my first choices, and Cushing as a decent choice as well. I am not sold on Rey for this D.

I doubt we go dline in the first, but there are certainly some candidates. I truly think it's one of the LB with a chance of a CB. I think anyone who honestly and truly thinks we are drafting a RB in rd 1 needs to stop smoking the good stuff. We are going D. I would stake my repuation on it.

Right now, my guess is Matthews, but the other two I mentioned would not surprise me and I would be happy with either one. I would be surprised if Vinny's choice becomes a Texan. Not seeing that.
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Vinny's team would knock out Porky's team on 3rd down while your team would make nice clean tackles 4 yards down field on defense and then send second day back Jon Wells in on 3rd and short instead of Beanie Wells. Another VinnyTexan FIRST DOWN! :lion:
 
Vinny said:
Vinny's team would knock out Porky's team on 3rd down while your team would make nice clean tackles 4 yards down field on defense and then send second day back Jon Wells in on 3rd and short instead of Beanie Wells. Another VinnyTexan FIRST DOWN! :lion:
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You've sold me on Rey Macarena. I'm all about him now.

Rey Maualuga at 15!
 
Vinny said:
Vinny's team would knock out Porky's team on 3rd down while your team would make nice clean tackles 4 yards down field on defense and then send second day back Jon Wells in on 3rd and short instead of Beanie Wells. Another VinnyTexan FIRST DOWN! :lion:
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LOL. Ok if you say so. :photos:
 
Vinny said:
Vinny's team would knock out Porky's team on 3rd down while your team would make nice clean tackles 4 yards down field on defense and then send second day back Jon Wells in on 3rd and short instead of Beanie Wells. Another VinnyTexan FIRST DOWN! :lion:
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Well ... any MLB can make tackles with our DTs in front of him ...:kingkong:.
 
Rey is strickly an inside guy. Last time I looked we had a high pick manning that spot. Not only that, but we couldn't cover or rush last year. A two down thumper playing a position we already have a plus player at makes no sense to me.
 
Porky said:
Rey is strickly an inside guy. Last time I looked we had a high pick manning that spot. Not only that, but we couldn't cover or rush last year. A two down thumper playing a position we already have a plus player at makes no sense to me.
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Rey would fill a spot that's already considered good . I would have done it for Patrick Willis but not Rey ... JMO .
 
I'm hoping they are able to trade down and pick up an extra pick this year and maybe an extra pick next year.

If they pick at 15 and the main guys mentioned are available I'd like to see:

Any of the 3 USC LBs or Jenkins. I'm not sure on Vontae Davis. I haven't found a piece of information out there that doesn't talk about some character issues and lack of discipline. Plus if he follows in the footsteps of his older brother he is a sure fire first round bust. I'd like to avoid him.

While the Texans still have some holes they aren't glaring holes. With the exception of a short yardage back the team has at least someone serviceable at every position. That's a step up from just having a warm body, but it at least allows the team to go with the BPA. Even with Smith coming in, if Orakpo were to somehow drop the team could make use of him. The only positions I don't see them taking in the first round would be QB, WR, T, G, or C (those only because I don't think there is any first round talent out there). Ok, I wouldn't suggest a K or a P either. Anything else is possible if the right player is there.
 
Porky said:
Rey is strickly an inside guy. Last time I looked we had a high pick manning that spot. Not only that, but we couldn't cover or rush last year. A two down thumper playing a position we already have a plus player at makes no sense to me.
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The logic for Rey is that we move DeMeco outside.

EX:Someone might prefer Ryans/Maualuga/Adibi

over

Cushing/Ryans/Adibi

Its an interesting argument, plus it would potentially add years to Ryans career because he wouldn't have to go through the wear and tear he takes in the middle. I dont see DeMeco moving however, he's the leader of our defense and as such I dont see him willingly relinquishing the middle, especially for a rookie even if it would be a better situation for him.

He's played hurt for us when it might've been better to have him sit out a game and come on strong the rest of the year. He believes (as a leader should believe) that the team is the best when he's on the field...in the middle.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60876

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1. Clay Matthews - OLB - I think he's more durable than Cushing plus he's got more upside . He's also a great special teams player .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI7dA3UttUM

2. Alphoso Smith - CB - This pick I to used the cherry picking device some . A good player who's a bit undersized , provides Dunta insurance .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9C6JWaoPg

3. Chip Vaughn - SS - last of a dying breed . A 6'1 220 pounder who runs a 4.4 forty . When you play the Titans and Jags twice a year ... you need a SS who brings the lumber .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sgbGgTFZ6k

4. Rashad Jennings - RB - Compliment to Slaton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEpJMNzBZ1k

4b. Tyrone Green - G - Give me an SEC Guard any day of the week .

5. Nate Davis - QB- Good value plus a talented guy to develop cause you never know about Schaub .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46I0s...eature=related

6. Henry Melton - DE - has the potential to be a good pass rusher .

7. Tyrell Sutton - RB - After Slaton , we're kinda thin at RB . Sutton is a smart , hard working guy , who's more quick than fast . I watched him in the Alamo Bowl vs Missouri and he looked like the fastest guy on the field ... hmmm .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlfSbIwM_iI
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Pretty Good Earl: Stir mine with a little sugar
1. Mathews
2. Wood or Sidbury
3. Shone Green or Cory sheets
4. Rashard Jennings...Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
4b . Flecther Cb Iowa
5. Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
6. Henry Melton DE Texas)
7. Quinn Johnson FB/TE/LB LSU
 
I'm hoping the Texans trade down into the late 1st round/early 2nd and draft Conor Barwin. I think he fits the mold that we've been drafting in the 1st (raw talent, very good athlete that just needs to be developed).

I also dont see much of a dropoff from what he can become for us and what we'd be drafting ahead of him. I would enjoy the extra picks we'd have in a trade down and more opportunities for Smithiak to find another steal.

But given the pickings are slim I dont see them finding a suitor, so they'll stand pat and grab the best value that falls. Methinks that guy is Malcolm Jenkins or Clay Matthews.

Malcolm Jenkins is NFL ready and would be either a starting CB/FS on opening day. The most polished CB in the draft and would allow us to move Reeves to the nickel where I think he would do better because he wouldn't be left on an island with his subpar ball skills.

Clay Matthews is a hard worker, self made player that we could use like Baltimore used Adalius Thomas. He's such a great athlete we could literally line him up anywhere on the field (like Baltimore did with Thomas) and just create matchup nightmares for opposing teams.
 
TheRealJoker said:
The logic for Rey is that we move DeMeco outside.

EX:Someone might prefer Ryans/Maualuga/Adibi

over

Cushing/Ryans/Adibi

Its an interesting argument, plus it would potentially add years to Ryans career because he wouldn't have to go through the wear and tear he takes in the middle. I dont see DeMeco moving however, he's the leader of our defense and as such I dont see him willingly relinquishing the middle, especially for a rookie even if it would be a better situation for him.

He's played hurt for us when it might've been better to have him sit out a game and come on strong the rest of the year. He believes (as a leader should believe) that the team is the best when he's on the field...in the middle.
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I like the Ryans/Maualuga/June-Adibi linebacker corp over the Cushing/Ryans/June-Adibi group because you could use the loser in the June/Adibi battle as your nickel and dime linebacker and bring a tremendous run stopping unit to bear on early down and distances with a tackling machine like Ryans on one side of a thumper like Rey Maualuga.

I'd move Ryans all over the field to exploit mismatches. Ryans is great at shooting the gap, plays well in space and has blitzing skills that he can't showcase while in the middle. I'd just stick him in the middle in obvious passing situations.
 
TheRealJoker said:
The logic for Rey is that we move DeMeco outside.

EX:Someone might prefer Ryans/Maualuga/Adibi

over

Cushing/Ryans/Adibi

Its an interesting argument, plus it would potentially add years to Ryans career because he wouldn't have to go through the wear and tear he takes in the middle. I dont see DeMeco moving however, he's the leader of our defense and as such I dont see him willingly relinquishing the middle, especially for a rookie even if it would be a better situation for him.


He's played hurt for us when it might've been better to have him sit out a game and come on strong the rest of the year. He believes (as a leader should believe) that the team is the best when he's on the field...in the middle.
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Infatrykac believes Demeco can move to the outside. The coaches took one look at him and declared him a Mike.....I'm going with the bird in the hand rule here. and of course the coaches first take. And I share the Maualuga frustration.....Orakpo would work well for us....they are not moving Mario.

And we aren't moving up to get Orakpo. In my mind it's a repeat of Bruce Smith-Ray Childress.
 
Vinny said:
I like the Ryans/Maualuga/June-Adibi linebacker corp over the Cushing/Ryans/June-Adibi group because you could use the loser in the June/Adibi battle as your nickel and dime linebacker and bring a tremendous run stopping unit to bear on early down and distances with a tackling machine like Ryans on one side of a thumper like Rey Maualuga.

I'd move Ryans all over the field to exploit mismatches. Ryans is great at shooting the gap, plays well in space and has blitzing skills that he can't showcase while in the middle. I'd just stick him in the middle in obvious passing situations.
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FWIW ... LZ says his sources say Ryans can't run . He didn't tell me that but he wrote it .
 
Our first pick should be to address the pass rush. I don't follow as closely as you guys, but based on what I read as a lurker, I believe I would be happy with Ayers or Matthews in a trade down. Such a trade down would set up the rest of our draft.

I would be willing to take a little less than full value in a trade down. A 3rd would be great, I'd take a 4th and change. I'd parlay that with our 3rd or 4th and get another 2nd round pick.

With 2 second rounders, I'd like to come away with RB Brown and Unger.

The rest of the draft is used to take CB's and Pass rushing specialists.

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If we stay at 15, I believe Moreno will be there and we should take him, but there's no way we would.
 
threetoedpete said:
Pretty Good Earl: Stir mine with a little sugar
1. Mathews
2. Wood or Sidbury
3. Shone Green or Cory sheets
4. Rashard Jennings...Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
4b . Flecther Cb Iowa
5. Jason Watkins (OL, Florida)
6. Henry Melton DE Texas)
7. Quinn Johnson FB/TE/LB LSU
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I could go for

1. Mathews
2. Wood
3. Shone Green
4. Chip Vaughn (S, Wake Forest)
4b . Flecther Cb Iowa
5. Nate Davis QB
6. Henry Melton DE Texas)
7. Quinn Johnson FB/TE/LB
 
I would choose Moreno over Wells. I am tired of dealing with injury prone running backs and players that have questionable heart. If Moreno gone at 15 I would rather trade back and get the additional pick and then pick Donald Brown over Wells at 15. I guess I really don't just want any running back. I want Moreno if he's there.
 
I say Cushing because he is my least favorite option and I am trying a reverse jinx.

That being said I am not all that down on him, he is just not my favorite option for reasons that I cannot quantify. (gut)

If Smithiak does end up drafting him I'll be 100% for him as a Texan. For now, he is just a Trojan.

At the 15 spot, given our offseason moves, I really can't think of a scenario that would get me upset.
 
Polo said:
I think it's gonna be one of the Ohio State guys...Jenkins or Wells..If they're both on the clock when we pick then I think we'll go with Jenkins...
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I agree.
If Jenkins is there at 15 there is NO WAY we don't take him.

Let's hope he falls
 
I suspect a USC linebacker is in our future. Now which one is the question, as they all are pretty good and bring things we need to the table. My preference is probably Mathews as he seems to be the best in coverage and getting to the QB, but all told, I'm good with any of them. Second round I'm flopping between A. Brown and Sidbury as I would like to get the other guy in the third if I don't select him in the second. Just can't make up my mind as to which one is more likely to remain on the board at our third as they both seem to be heating up.
 
Maddict5 said:
im hoping we take one of everette brown, maybin or jenkins @ 15. i think adding a de/olb type will really be a key piece even to what we want to do next year on defence even if they arent full time starters.

at the same time id love to have jenkins because he shouldnt be available at our pick
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I've been thinking that we manage to trade down, and pick up Everette Brown or Jenkins. Maybin is a very intriguing prospect, and I can't say I'd be upset with him. I'm sure I won't be upset with whatever player we end up with so we'll just have to see what goes down tomorrow.
 
I'm still thinking DL with our 15th pick. Brown or Jerry. I'd prefer a tradedown scenario and pick up Matthews around 20 or so.
 
I'm starting to go back and look at some film/highlights of some of the prospects and Cushing is a beast....

I had not really watched much of these prospects, but Cushing is a do double g...

I would love to have him...

I also looked at Matthews and the dude is not 15 worthy at all....Great motor though, but I don't see that football talent...My guess is that he has a vey average NFL career unless he gets immensely better...

Off to watch Rey REy now...
 
1) Curry
2) Cushing
3) Mauluga
4) (As of right now) Matthews (but he definitely has the potential to get knocked down some)
 
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I don't want Moreno or Wells.

I want Cushing.

Cushing > Wells> Moreno
 
My new wish list:

1) Jenkins
2) Cushing

I would actually trade up a couple spots to get Jenkins
 
I've been wishing for Rey Maluaga for a while now. Yeah his spot is occupied by Ryans but I think we can work something out. That's why they have coaches. If not Maluaga then any other USC linebacker will do.
 
Right now, I'm really feeling 2 LBs in the first round. I've always like Maualuga, and I've been a supporter of his on this board. I agree with what Vinny has been saying. I'm also feeling Laurinaitis in the first round. He is a stud, and he can play all 3 LB spots. I think he may not be quite worth the 15 spot, but he should be an instant starter as he is very polished. Not a ton of upside but he is a day one starter and a great leader from a good tradition school. I think we may be able to use Josh Freeman as trade bait, and I think Laurinaitis would be a great target in that senario. I would also be ok with him at 15 though as I don't think he has a very high bust factor. My "back-up" for dropping a few spots if we lose out on our first target would be Alphonso Smith.
 
Vinny said:
I like the Ryans/Maualuga/June-Adibi linebacker corp over the Cushing/Ryans/June-Adibi group because you could use the loser in the June/Adibi battle as your nickel and dime linebacker and bring a tremendous run stopping unit to bear on early down and distances with a tackling machine like Ryans on one side of a thumper like Rey Maualuga.

I'd move Ryans all over the field to exploit mismatches. Ryans is great at shooting the gap, plays well in space and has blitzing skills that he can't showcase while in the middle. I'd just stick him in the middle in obvious passing situations.
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Damn Vinny that sure would be awesome. I hope that Smithiak is thinking like you and they suprise us with Maualuga. They may have fed Matthews to McClain and told him that Demeco can't be moved. We'll find out tomorrow.
 
Porky said:
I am on record as being against a RB under virtually any circumstances in rd 1, and I will fall over dead if they select one.

I suspect strongly they will try very hard to trade down. If they go corner, I suspect they take Darius Butler from Uconn and not Davis.

I am not as big of fan of Rey for this defense as some others. I see him as a 2 down LB who is a major liability in coverage. I like him better as a ILB in a 3/4. I prefer Matthews or Laurinaitis as my first choices, and Cushing as a decent choice as well. I am not sold on Rey for this D.

I doubt we go dline in the first, but there are certainly some candidates. I truly think it's one of the LB with a chance of a CB. I think anyone who honestly and truly thinks we are drafting a RB in rd 1 needs to stop smoking the good stuff. We are going D. I would stake my repuation on it.

Right now, my guess is Matthews, but the other two I mentioned would not surprise me and I would be happy with either one. I would be surprised if Vinny's choice becomes a Texan. Not seeing that.
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You called it last year, and I think you're going to be right again this year.

No to Vontae Davis - He's the T.O. of corners without all of the talent.

I really like Maualuga, but as much as I think he's going to be a good player, I don't think he would do well here. Not counting the mismatching skill set, I think it could send the wrong message to DeMeco.

Here's to hoping to a trade down, and picking up Matthews or even Laurainitis as you said if it's far down enough.
 
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