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Chris Meyers will be the starting center in 2009.

and Kyle Orton might start next year as well........doesn't mean he should. Just like Denver that doesn't make Myers the long term answer here. (BTW, you can't even spell his name, so you probably don't know much about his play)
 
and Kyle Orton might start next year as well........doesn't mean he should. Just like Denver that doesn't make Myers the long term answer here. (BTW, you can't even spell his name, so you probably don't know much about his play)

My apologies Dictionary.com, chris MYERS will be our starting center next year. If you had any concept of cap numbers you'd understand that Myers' dictates that he is the starting center on the team. You see, guys whose cap number doesn't match up with his role on the team get cut, for example Weaver, Greenwood etc. The front office (who by the way are much more informed than Texans talk posters including myself) have this in mind, especially when they draft. Typically when guys are picked in the 1st through 3rd rounds, the organization has in mind that they want these guys to start at some point because their cap number dictates this. Our defense lacks more legitimate starters than our offense. Hence, our defense will get more attention in this draft, especially in the 1st through 3rd rounds. Carr Bombed, meet logic. Logic, meet Carr Bombed. You two need to get more acquainted.
 
My apologies Dictionary.com, chris MYERS will be our starting center next year. If you had any concept of cap numbers you'd understand that Myers' dictates that he is the starting center on the team. You see, guys whose cap number doesn't match up with his role on the team get cut, for example Weaver, Greenwood etc. The front office (who by the way are much more informed than Texans talk posters including myself) have this in mind, especially when they draft. Typically when guys are picked in the 1st through 3rd rounds, the organization has in mind that they want these guys to start at some point because their cap number dictates this. Our defense lacks more legitimate starters than our offense. Hence, our defense will get more attention in this draft, especially in the 1st through 3rd rounds. Carr Bombed, meet logic. Logic, meet Carr Bombed. You two need to get more acquainted.


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My apologies Dictionary.com, chris MYERS will be our starting center next year. If you had any concept of cap numbers you'd understand that Myers' dictates that he is the starting center on the team. You see, guys whose cap number doesn't match up with his role on the team get cut, for example Weaver, Greenwood etc. The front office (who by the way are much more informed than Texans talk posters including myself) have this in mind, especially when they draft. Typically when guys are picked in the 1st through 3rd rounds, the organization has in mind that they want these guys to start at some point because their cap number dictates this. Our defense lacks more legitimate starters than our offense. Hence, our defense will get more attention in this draft, especially in the 1st through 3rd rounds. Carr Bombed, meet logic. Logic, meet Carr Bombed. You two need to get more acquainted.

Yep, this totally explains why we've drafted strictly defense or spent our money on defense over the last 5 or 6 years...........umm, please get a clue, because you have no idea what you're talking about. The damn argument you just tried (and I use that term loosely, because what you posted makes no sense whatsoever) to make goes against your own argument.

You clearly have no idea what the team needs are, so please stop acting like you do, you can't even spell their freaking names.

OH, BTW, I loved the "Typically when guys are picked in the 1st through 3rd rounds, the organization has in mind that they want these guys to start at some point because their cap number dictates this." Dur......really, we expect those guys to start......duh, did we really expect that captain obvious?

and it doesn't matter if our "Our defense lacks more legitimate starters than our offense. Hence, our defense will get more attention in this draft"....we've thrown a crapload of picks at our defense "guy" , which tells me we have talent and coaching may be a problem....also regardless of that crap, asking for one drafted center isn't asking for the team to go "offensive heavy" or asking them to throw every pick available at the offense. (newsflash, even if you get what you want, which is all defense...this team is still going to take offensive players) :rolleyes: I'm just saying god forbid we might fill one of the teams biggest needs by drafting a freaking center in a deep center draft......wow, heaven forbid if we draft a center in a deep center stacked draft. Nope, that's totally off the wall and will never happen.

One of our biggest problems last season was our scoring offense..despite being one of the best offenses in the league last season, we were one of the worst scoring offenses last season. I wonder why? Maybe because our center sucked total ass and was a complete liability in the short yardage running game, which might cause us to draft one high in the draft....umm I don't know. But yeah lets go with your math.... cap space (which BTW all is tied into the defense) + 'dictated players' (whatever the hell that means) + your made up bullcrap = no drafted lineman/offensive backfield players, that we need. We'll see how that works out.
 
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My apologies Dictionary.com, chris MYERS will be our starting center next year. If you had any concept of cap numbers you'd understand that Myers' dictates that he is the starting center on the team. You see, guys whose cap number doesn't match up with his role on the team get cut, for example Weaver, Greenwood etc. The front office (who by the way are much more informed than Texans talk posters including myself) have this in mind, especially when they draft. Typically when guys are picked in the 1st through 3rd rounds, the organization has in mind that they want these guys to start at some point because their cap number dictates this. Our defense lacks more legitimate starters than our offense. Hence, our defense will get more attention in this draft, especially in the 1st through 3rd rounds. Carr Bombed, meet logic. Logic, meet Carr Bombed. You two need to get more acquainted.

IIRC, Myers was obtained for a 6th rd pick. Which means, for the purposes of this discussion, he was drafted in the 6th rd. Since, by your argument, guys in rds 1-3 are expected to start, therefore Myers could readily be replaced/upgraded. By his play on the field, he needs to step up his game or be upgraded.

Myers may well start on opening day, but it won't be because we didn't look to upgrade.

I've heard Kubiak say time and time again that it's Performance, not draft position, that dictates who plays (see Bulman or Diles)

OBTW, the draft only has two rounds on day one so a 3rd rd guy is no longer a 1st day pick.
 
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Davis, André $3,000,000
Myers, Chris $2,750,000
Orlovsky, Dan $2,550,000
Walter, Kevin $2,000,000
Brown, Duane $1,472,500
Thompson, Chaun $1,375,000
Ryans, DeMeco $1,296,250
Brown, Chris $1,700,000
Slaton, Steve $551,097

So, above is a list of some Texan players and their cap numbers for 09, according to the self-proclaimed genius, let's look at some things we caon learn about the 09 starting lineup:

Andre Davis should start over Kevin Walter
Dan Orlovsky should be staring somewhere
Chaun Thompson should start ahead of Demeco Ryans

However, what's most disapointing to me is that Steve Slaton is going to have to sit on the bench this year if Chris Brown is healthy.. Clearly Chris Brown is the starter.
 
Please keep in mind that you have to take what the draft gives you. I think we're all in agreement that defense is our primary need and we should be focused on getting defensive players. With that said, you can't say they're going to be your first three picks just cuz. They very well could be but it would probably be because that's the way the draft fell.

Let me ask you this, what if we're sitting there in the 3rd round, the highest rated player on defense for us is similar to a Domanic Barber. Now let's say they have an offensive lineman like a C/G or maybe a RB that they have rated as a 2nd round pick (similar to a Mike Pollak or Matt Forte)...

Hate to say it, but the value is at a position of need on the offense.
 
did chester pitts kick your dog or something? Your rants on chester have diseased your credibility (as a nfl observer) over the years...at least in my eyes.
michael vick alert! Michael vick alert! Warning! Drop to floor in fetal position covering vital organs and soft tissue!
 
Are you absolutely sure you would like to introduce relevance and reason into this argument ?

that sort of stuff sneaks into a discussion from time to time...
...best to just ignore it like the rest of us do
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Did Chester Pitts kick your dog or something? Your rants on Chester have diseased your credibility (as a NFL observer) over the years...at least in my eyes.

I'm not feeing them either on Pitts. In terms of getting down the Field and putting people in the dirt...this(08) could of been Pitts finest year. And I'm half wondering if the visceral directed at Brisiel isn't just the fact that he is a blue collar work hard guy who made it via NFL Europe and not a big time BCS school. I know Brisiel is never going to be confused with Chris Snee, but I think he had a pretty good last eight.

What I know is if they are sitting their in the third and one of the centers/Guards, Sidbury and a Rb they like is still on the board, they're going to have to make a very interesting choice.
 
My apologies Dictionary.com, chris MYERS will be our starting center next year. If you had any concept of cap numbers you'd understand that Myers' dictates that he is the starting center on the team. You see, guys whose cap number doesn't match up with his role on the team get cut, for example Weaver, Greenwood etc. The front office (who by the way are much more informed than Texans talk posters including myself) have this in mind, especially when they draft. Typically when guys are picked in the 1st through 3rd rounds, the organization has in mind that they want these guys to start at some point because their cap number dictates this. Our defense lacks more legitimate starters than our offense. Hence, our defense will get more attention in this draft, especially in the 1st through 3rd rounds. Carr Bombed, meet logic. Logic, meet Carr Bombed. You two need to get more acquainted.

So since Antoine Caldwell was a 3rd round draft pick, does that mean he's our "future starter" down the line? hmm.....I hope so.
 
Thanks for finding this Carr Bomb, I knew it was in one of these threads but couldn't remember which one.
How many times am I going to have to straighten people like you out? The Texans will not draft a single offensive lineman. Period. End of sentence.
All these guys mentioned are day 1 picks, probably 3rd round and higher. Your implication in my opinion was we needed to draft an O-line starter for Slaton at guard or center, which is ridiculous. If depth on our OL is all were going for then we can find that cheaply in FA in the form of a veteran or an undrafted rookie. Spending a 4th rounder or higher on an O-lineman who will probably play special teams or a few snaps all season isn't worth it. This team needs WAY too much on defense.
The focus of this draft will be defense. Other than depth on the offensive line, which I've already said can be found in FA through undrafted rookies or unsigned veterans, and a backup running back, offense will be ignored in this draft and for good reason.
It doesn't matter who I'm targeting. It matters who the Texans are. I'm doing my best at speaking for them and trying to figure out how they'll approach their draft. I think defense is the #1 priority and our draft board will reflect that once this is all over. I'll revisit this thread to gloat once the draft is over.
I'm fully behind your enthusiasm towards filling this team with all the defense we can, especially with highly rated draft picks... but the truth is, I think we would be foolish to pass up higher rated talent to just fill needs for the sake of filling them.

Please keep in mind that you have to take what the draft gives you. I think we're all in agreement that defense is our primary need and we should be focused on getting defensive players. With that said, you can't say they're going to be your first three picks just cuz. They very well could be but it would probably be because that's the way the draft fell.

Let me ask you this, what if we're sitting there in the 3rd round, the highest rated player on defense for us is similar to a Domanic Barber. Now let's say they have an offensive lineman like a C/G or maybe a RB that they have rated as a 2nd round pick (similar to a Mike Pollak or Matt Forte)...

Hate to say it, but the value is at a position of need on the offense.
 
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:spit: Ouch!!!! Thats godda hurt. Its one thing to put youre foot in youre mouth but its another thing all together when you act like a know it all ass and do it. I think its only fair if you were going to come here and arroganlty gloat you should come here and humbly admit you were wrong.
 
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