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Enjoy your last month of NFL Network. I had heard they were gonna yank it, but didn't think they'd follow through with it.

Anyone a satellite salesman???
 
Roc Hoover said:
Enjoy your last month of NFL Network. I had heard they were gonna yank it, but didn't think they'd follow through with it.

Anyone a satellite salesman???
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Sigh. Inertia is my friend, so I have stayed with Comcast. What are the odds they will adjust my bill downwards to reflect the fact that I am no longer getting NFL network??

Uverse? Direct TV? Which is best?
 
Well hell!! Guess I better start looking around. I'm so old school it's pitiful. I HATE change!! BUT, it's time to kiss Comcast goodbye!!
 
I must chime in as usual on this subject.
I have had Direct TV for over 15 years and would never change back to cable, NEVER !
 
I agree with BigWig...costly for me to have the NFL package, but there is nothing out there that can rival the coverage I get of the NFL and the Texans during football season.
 
We need another company in Houston...DirecTV randomly spiked bills and Dish has lost a lot of channels. AT&T is really the only option.
 
the last I heard, you can still get the NFL network on Comcast, but you have to buy their sports package to get it.
 
Thorn said:
the last I heard, you can still get the NFL network on Comcast, but you have to buy their sports package to get it.
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That is what will be ending. I read that the NFL Network will not be on Comcast anymore - either pay or free.
 
If you haven't yet, send a note to comcast thru their site. I did yesterday and today a lady left me a voice mail from there. I will call her tomorrow and see what she has to say.

Comcast wants NFLN to be an extra $$ channel. NFL wants it as basic as ESPN or CNN. I pay more to have sports channels and it's BS.
 
Okay...I talked to the lady at Comcast. She was very nice and just wanted to say that NFLN leaving is not a done deal. She thinks something will get worked out.

I also asked if they had gotten many other complaints. Her answer.."Oh yeah!!"

I also told them that it is ridiculous that one has to pay for basic sports channels. We pay 7.99 a month. Its krap.

Let them know that!

http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/contactus/ContactUs.html
 
Roc Hoover said:
Okay...I talked to the lady at Comcast. She was very nice and just wanted to say that NFLN leaving is not a done deal. She thinks something will get worked out.

I also asked if they had gotten many other complaints. Her answer.."Oh yeah!!"

I also told them that it is ridiculous that one has to pay for basic sports channels. We pay 7.99 a month. Its krap.

Let them know that!

http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/contactus/ContactUs.html
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I just emailed them and said if they took away my NFLN I take away my business. Uverse here I come.
 
Thorn said:
Can you get AT&T in an apartment? I already have their DSL for my internet.
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My daughter and her roomie have ATT U-Verse in their apt. They have three HD boxes, one is a DVR, all the movie channels, and internet for $140-something per month. The cool thing about the DVR is that they can watch what is recorded on any of the non-DVR boxes.

You have to go to an ATT store and have them check your address.
If they had it in my area I'd switch in a heartbeat.
 
DishNetwork had NFL Network for free for a period of 2-3 years I believe. And then they made it a seperate channel that you had to pay for (which sux!) so many bogus channel that are completly pointless, I swear these goddamn fuking %$#$%#^#% ^&&^#^#& *&@$^& corporations!!!!!!

Can't the NFL or Jerry Jones do anything about this?????

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What is Comcast going to do next? Make people pay extra money to watch their Houston sports?
 
Friday, April 03, 2009

Football fans are anticipating this month's NFL Draft and all the other news that they follow year-round on NFL Network. Unfortunately, starting May 1, Comcast will not carry NFL Network.

Based on fan interest, NFL Network should be broadly available to Comcast subscribers. Comcast, however, wants to continue to limit access to NFL Network by charging consumers extra. We strongly disagree. Comcast refuses to reach a new agreement with NFL Network to make it available to a larger number of subscribers without the extra monthly fee that Comcast now sets and collects for our network on its sports tier.

Comcast discriminates against networks like NFL Network because we are independent. Do you know why you get the Golf Channel and Versus on a basic level of cable service? Both are owned by Comcast. Do you wonder why the recently launched MLB Network is offered to fans without an extra monthly fee? Once again, Comcast has an ownership interest.

In October, the Federal Communications Commission ruled that Comcast had discriminated and retaliated against NFL Network, and ordered an administrative law judge to conduct additional proceedings. Our goal is for the major cable companies to negotiate fairly. We hope that Comcast will act responsibly, negotiate in good faith, and keep the interests of the fans in mind.

STEVE BORNSTEIN, President and CEO of NFL Network

New York City
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2009/04/03/fridaywebletters.html
 
I've been seeing the huge banner flashing across my screen. D-day is May 1.

I've already tried to get UVerse, but it's not available in my area. Looks like it's gonna be DTV. As much as I detest them, I guess I'll keep Comcast for broadband access because I've heard that it's way better than DSL.

Not to mention, I've learned that cable on a HDTV is inferior to satellite. Very often, the screen freezes up and the audio cuts out. I'm fed up considering how much of my money that they get per month.
 
We just switched to U-Verse about a week ago. I love having more channels and DVR, but I do miss having NBA TV. That said I'm pretty happy with the service.
 
I'm slowly coming to the realization that I'm going to go with an internet provider, a Netflix account, my AppleTV, and over the air (albeit digital) local stations. Comcast has reached a point where they're charging us more than we've ever paid for less content than my wife and I have had since we first signed up for cable as a married couple back in 1998. It's ridiculous. U-verse isn't available in my area and probably won't be anytime this decade. DirecTV is a bad option for us because of the high trees surrounding our home and when we left it last time it was mostly about the ridiculous bills.

I took a look at what I needed and it basically boils down to movies, Texans football, a few TV series that I care about, local news and weather, and that's about it.

I can have just internet access and get all of that.

Movies I can download via AppleTV and for a broader selection I can get a NetFlix account for what? $15? As the movies come in I do what a large number of their customers do and rip the disk to an mp4. Feed that into Apple TV and I can watch that film whenever I want commercial free.

NFL football is still on network TV and I can use an antenna on the side of my house to get over the air broadcasts that looks just as good as anything that comes through my cable. That covers football and local broadcast news and weather. Finally I follow a handful of television programs. I can buy entire seasons of shows through my Apple TV and watch them without commercials. Plus I buy a lot of DVD's (TV and movies).

Cable's a ripoff and I'm going to pay for the internet connection anyway.
 
Mr. White said:
I've been seeing the huge banner flashing across my screen. D-day is May 1.

I've already tried to get UVerse, but it's not available in my area. Looks like it's gonna be DTV. As much as I detest them, I guess I'll keep Comcast for broadband access because I've heard that it's way better than DSL.

Not to mention, I've learned that cable on a HDTV is inferior to satellite. Very often, the screen freezes up and the audio cuts out. I'm fed up considering how much of my money that they get per month.
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Yeah, it's a shame. When we got Comcast in October I was hoping that I could continue to watch NFLN like I did when we had U-Verse and Dish Network. Sadly, it doesn't look possible. At least we can all watch the draft on NFLN still.

Oh, btw. HDTV comment is true. I have 1080i downstairs TV, and 720p in my room. They look nothing like how they do at my friends house, who uses U-Verse. U-Verse even has local HDMI outputs in every single cable box, which you have to pay extra for if you use Comcast. I think DTV or Dish has the same feature. If anyone would like to clarify I'd really appreciate it. :)
 
Mr. White said:
Not to mention, I've learned that cable on a HDTV is inferior to satellite. Very often, the screen freezes up and the audio cuts out. I'm fed up considering how much of my money that they get per month.
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The difference between DTV HD and Comcast HD is like night and day. My brother has a 60" LCD with Comcast, and I have a 57" Sammy with DTV. The HD on Comcast seems dull and just not that good. He came to my house a few weeks back and we were watching the Rockets game and he was amazed and kind of pissed actually at the difference between the clarity of the picture. He has his DTV lined up to be installed this week.
 
The NFL network will not go away for Comcast customers, you just have to buy their sports tier package. As it turns out, I already have that package because it's the only way (when I signed up with Comcast) that I could get the NFL network in HD. So, nothing changes for me.
 
Thorn said:
The NFL network will not go away for Comcast customers, you just have to buy their sports tier package. As it turns out, I already have that package because it's the only way (when I signed up with Comcast) that I could get the NFL network in HD. So, nothing changes for me.
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YOu know how much it costs Thorn? I'm about to get rid of my premium package with Comcast and my digital phone so I might have some wiggle room there with my fees. Once football seasons comes I HAVE TO HAVE NFL network. That's how I was able to assess so many players before the season and how I was able to pick good young players for fantasy football.
 
depending on where you live, it will cost you between 6 to 10 bucks a month more to get the sports tier package.
 
Thorn said:
The NFL network will not go away for Comcast customers, you just have to buy their sports tier package. As it turns out, I already have that package because it's the only way (when I signed up with Comcast) that I could get the NFL network in HD. So, nothing changes for me.
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Are you sure? The story I got was that the NFL Network was going to pull their content from Comcast on May 1 when their current contract runs out--whether or not you buy the sports tier package.

I currently pay the sports tier package, but the articles I've read say that NFL Network is going to pull the station. Comcast has maintained that they are going to keep the network on their end if NFL Network will allow it, which they won't unless it is offered on the basic tier.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Are you sure? The story I got was that the NFL Network was going to pull their content from Comcast on May 1 when their current contract runs out--whether or not you buy the sports tier package.

I currently pay the sports tier package, but the articles I've read say that NFL Network is going to pull the station. Comcast has maintained that they are going to keep the network on their end if NFL Network will allow it, which they won't unless it is offered on the basic tier.
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That's in court right now. Here's a link I found.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20090412_FCC_steps_into_Comcast-NFL_Network_fight.html
 
I <3 AT&T Uverse. BTW< if you have Comcast AND NFLN - you have a sports package. Something like $9/mos and I bet you don't watch any channel in the package but NFLN - may wanna' call and cancel it.
 
Thorn said:
That's in court right now. Here's a link I found.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20090412_FCC_steps_into_Comcast-NFL_Network_fight.html
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Even for non-sports fans, though, this is a significant case, experts say. It is the first big test at the FCC of a 1992 federal law that prohibits cable companies, such as Comcast, from favoring their own entertainment content over that of independents, such as the NFL Network.

The NFL Network, the programming offshoot of the National Football League, says Comcast gives preferential treatment to Versus and Golf, which it owns.

If FCC chief administrative law judge Richard L. Sippel finds that Comcast violated the law by exiling the NFL Network to the sports package, and the five-member FCC commission agrees, the ruling could make it easier for independent programmers to gain access to cable systems, experts say.

"We are on the side of the NFL on this," said Andrew Jay Schwartzman, president of the left-leaning Media Access Project. "The cable industry has used its bottleneck control over access to customers."

But free-market advocates take Comcast's side, saying that the FCC should stay out of this scrimmage and that Comcast and the NFL Network should privately negotiate a carriage deal.

"Why should the government get into this?" asked Adam Thierer, senior fellow at the market-oriented Progress and Freedom Foundation. "Sports is a heated topic of debate even among people in the same household."

The Comcast-NFL Network case is one of three similar complaints that Sippel will hear over the next two months. In the second, WealthTV claims it was denied a cable channel when the cable companies launched a copycat channel, Mojo. Mojo, according to an FCC filing, was owned by Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Cox Cable and Bright House Networks.

WealthTV is something of an updated Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous and was founded earlier this decade by Robert Herring, of San Diego, a former electronics manufacturer.

Herring claims that the cable companies launched Mojo as he tried to persuade them to carry WealthTV and after briefing the companies, including Time Warner, on its programming. Mojo was canceled last year, apparently because of poor ratings.

"I thought that if you had something really good, and people liked it, the cable companies would put it on," Herring said in a phone interview. "Our goal was not to get into a fight with anyone."
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From your link, Thorn.

This is all about Comcast discriminating against independent programmers and that is something they aren't supposed to do per Federal Law. The only two channels I watched for a while was MOJO and the NFLnetwork. I didn't know MOJO was owned by comcast...now I feel dirty.
 
What scares me, if things go the wrong way, Comcast could end up not showing the NFL network at all. Seeing as how AT&T UVerse isn't in my area yet, that would really REALLY piss me off. I hope it doesn't come to that though. There's a lot of BS stuff on the NFL network I don't watch, but having the ability to watch old football games is really pretty cool when there is nothing else on TV that night.
 
Yeah, so temporarily we will likely lose the channel (from your link):


Comcast's contract with the NFL Network expires April 30. Comcast has said it would continue to carry NFL Network on its sports tier until the FCC case is resolved. But the NFL Network has not agreed, and both sides say the NFL Network could temporarily disappear from Comcast in May.
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The NFL has complained publicly about Comcast and sued the company in state court in New York. "I can't think of a programmer who is successful without a deal with Comcast," Bornstein said.

NFL officials seem particularly bothered, it seems, that Comcast has been rapidly increasing its extra-cost sports tier with the NFL Network's popular content.
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I think the biggest question for the cable companies is how proud the NFL Network is of its programming. They want to charge the cable companies more than what much more establish channels charge, for programming that is a bunch of repeats, and only shows a few games. (Games that the NFL cherry picks away from no-pay prgramming. Some day perhaps if the NFL gets powerful enough, they will make their league all pay per view. The NFL Network is a form of pay per view already. So was the ESPN deal.).

I am sick of the scroll on the screen. Because it asks me to go to a website that doesn't do squat to get me NFL Network on a permanent basis.
 
Thorn said:
What scares me, if things go the wrong way, Comcast could end up not showing the NFL network at all. Seeing as how AT&T UVerse isn't in my area yet, that would really REALLY piss me off. I hope it doesn't come to that though. There's a lot of BS stuff on the NFL network I don't watch, but having the ability to watch old football games is really pretty cool when there is nothing else on TV that night.
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I like it for pre season Thorn. That way I get to watch all my players in their pre season games and see how they do and how they're looking in the first few quarters. It really helps me for fantasy because I get to see how all the rookie RB's and WR's are doing and what kind of impact they may be able to have if they're a starter.
 
Texecutioner said:
I like it for pre season Thorn. That way I get to watch all my players in their pre season games and see how they do and how they're looking in the first few quarters. It really helps me for fantasy because I get to see how all the rookie RB's and WR's are doing and what kind of impact they may be able to have if they're a starter.
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The thing I like the most about the NFL network is their replay games where they strip out the non-action stuff and show the game in and hour and 30 minutes. Since I don't have the NFL ticket (or whatever it's called) I also like during the regular season the replay games of the week. Also their top 10 shows are interesting. I guess what I don't watch a lot of is all their analysis, because there is really only one team I want to see that kind of stuff on. Guess which one. LOL
 
Thorn said:
The thing I like the most about the NFL network is their replay games where they strip out the non-action stuff and show the game in and hour and 30 minutes. Since I don't have the NFL ticket (or whatever it's called) I also like during the regular season the replay games of the week. Also their top 10 shows are interesting. I guess what I don't watch a lot of is all their analysis, because there is really only one team I want to see that kind of stuff on. Guess which one. LOL
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I love NFL replay and NFL real time. I just wish I could pull games on demand.
 
DirecTV is coming out tomorrow to install.

I just found out that U-Verse will be available May 1 in my area. Does anyone here recommend U-Verse over DirecTV?

I might just cancel.
 
Mr. White said:
DirecTV is coming out tomorrow to install.

I just found out that U-Verse will be available May 1 in my area. Does anyone here recommend U-Verse over DirecTV?

I might just cancel.
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I know my parents have had U-Verse for around a year and aren't very happy with it. My step-dad swears my HD looks better then theirs. I have Dish Network. Doesn't U-Verse come in through the phone line? idonno:
 
Never mind. When my neighbor told me that U-Verse was available May 1 and he was getting it, I thought that would mean that I would be able to get it too.

Silly me. I just called AT&T and they said it's not available in my area yet. By "area" I think they mean "house."
 
Mr. White said:
Never mind. When my neighbor told me that U-Verse was available May 1 and he was getting it, I thought that would mean that I would be able to get it too.

Silly me. I just called AT&T and they said it's not available in my area yet. By "area" I think they mean "house."
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I see you live in Sugar Land. Are they planning on releasing it in our area?
 
Ckw5814 said:
I see you live in Sugar Land. Are they planning on releasing it in our area?
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Actually I'm in a MUD district between Sugar Land and Richmond. My neighbor that I'm talking about is actually the guy that lives across my backyard, so he lives on another street.

I'm under the impression that eventually it's going to be in all areas. I think it's a matter of them getting the fiber optic lines installed.
 
I got a letter from Comcast saying to expect NFLN to go bye bye..(I have the tier) but they wanted to offer me a sweet deal to keep them...

FREE Starz for 12 months...woo hoo...12 months of a channel I will never watch.

or..

FREE Internet Speed Upgrade for 12 months....what great guys, eh? So you slow down my internet speed and now you'll bring it back up if I stay with you???????


I am frickin' waaaayyy more bent than I was before.
 
Roc Hoover said:
I got a letter from Comcast saying to expect NFLN to go bye bye..(I have the tier) but they wanted to offer me a sweet deal to keep them...

FREE Starz for 12 months...woo hoo...12 months of a channel I will never watch.

or..

FREE Internet Speed Upgrade for 12 months....what great guys, eh? So you slow down my internet speed and now you'll bring it back up if I stay with you???????


I am frickin' waaaayyy more bent than I was before.
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I got the same letter. I'm gonna switch also. These people are clueless.
 
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