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Antonio Smith a Texan!

Mailman said:
Five years 35 million. 12.5 guaranteed.
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On the bright side it's only twice what he should have gotten!

GuerillaBlack said:
Anthony Weaver clone.
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Pretty much. Hopefully he'll be what Weaver was supposed to be, instead of the sorry sack we got.

Mailman said:
Really? Anthony Weaver had one sack in three years. Antonio Smith had 14 and a half sacks over the same period.

Let's stop this nonsense now.
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Weaver produced similar numbers before he got his big payday.
 
The Texans have signed Arizona defensive lineman Antonio Smith to replace Anthony Weaver at left defensive end. Weaver was waived earlier this week. Smith, 27, spent his first five seasons with Arizona and started for the Cardinals in their Super Bowl loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Smith came to Houston on Friday night and spent Saturday meeting with Texans coach Gary Kubiak and his assistants while general manager Rick Smith negotiated a multiyear, multimillion dollar contract with Antonio Smith's agent, Drew Rosenhaus.

Source: Houston Chronicle
 
Can't judge the guy until he plays in our system.

We know what Weaver did for us and at what price tag.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water on this one.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I don't know how much more he offers us over Weaver. We'll see. I don't think its a bad pickup though.
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That was my initial reaction when I heard we were interested but the more I see about him the less I'm worried. Weaver was a product of the Baltimore defense. Smith is more athletic and should be able to make some plays for us. I would prefer a smaller end and having Mario be the strongside guy but this is not a terrible alternative. If we find a nice pass rusher in the draft this guy, unlike Weaver, can do some damage rushing the passer from the DT spot.
 
Well one thing about it, they dont have to force a DE pick in the first. Both the NFLn guys Lombardi and Adam Scheftner liked the pick up. And both projected we aren't done yet on the defensie side....

Denver just signed Dawkins.
 
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I LOVE the pickup. I think he will be a lot better than Weaver, but maybe that is just me. I don't think the Texans overpaid to get him either. Great pick up in my opinion.

I guess the Texans look OLB with their #1 pick?
 
GuerillaBlack said:
I don't know how much more he offers us over Weaver. We'll see. I don't think its a bad pickup though.
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But weaver went from a 3-4 DE to a 4-3 DE and Smith is going from a 4-3 DE to the same here. Not to mention Dick Smith is gone and his dropping the DE back into coverage all the time.
 
Here's a scouting report on him...

Smith is a fifth-year player who started 10 games during the regular season. He has good size and strength and uses good technique versus the run or pass. He is versatile enough to line up inside or outside and the Cardinals have utilized his versatility in a variety of roles within their schemes. Against the run, he has good initial quickness with very good hand placement. He can stack, slip off contact quickly and shows good reactions to blocking schemes. He gives good effort to the ball and has enough lateral quickness to flow effectively down the line or give good backside chase. As a pass-rusher, he has good strength to push the pocket as an inline rusher. Smith also uses his hands well to work off the frame or to counter contact in a tight area. He has good short-area quickness with the ability to flip or change directions quickly, which allows him to be effective on twists and stunts. Overall, Smith is a good technician who plays with solid effort. He is a versatile player that can take reps inside or outside, depending on the situation.

Smith is graded at 73 (70-79 is a good starter)

Weaver is graded at 61 (60-69 is an average starter)
 
Would've been more interested in Bertrand Berry but, I'll take Bush's word on the guy. I'm guessing this takes DE off the list for 1st round selection. Might look for a good situational rusher. Still thinking we'll be looking for the best LB available.
 
Contract details:

http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/

A league source tells us that free-agent defensive end Antonio Smith has signed with the Houston Texans.

Per the source, it's a five-year, $35.5 million deal.

Smith, a part-time starter in Arizona, will earn $15.5 million in the first year, $19.4 million in the first two years, and $24 million over the first three.
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I like the pickup and unlike Weaver this guy wasnt a product of the system. He performed well in mediocre defense and stood out while on their hot streak in the playoffs. Now Smith really needs to turn his attention to #59 and make him a happy camper!!!
 
I really liked what he did with the Cards.I think the other guy(Dockett) on the line was way better.Their line was pretty dominant especially against Pitt.
 
phantom17 said:
Nah! It's just my 3 y.o., but less than 1 y.o. at the time! We were just shoppin' at K-Mart & she wanted a toy, she looked cute, so I took the pic! And of course I bought her a toy!:photos:
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I think he was talking about "Dream Weaver" which is a tool to create web pages.
 
I remember another little known defensive end from the arizona cardinals who left in free agency, had the same knocks as antonio (not special but has a non-stop motor).....Kyle Vanden Bosch anyone?
 
With how much he's getting paid, I expect 7 - 10 sacks and nothing getting past him on the ground.
 
Feb 28 Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans have signed free-agent DE Antonio D. Smith (Cardinals) to a five-year, $35 million deal. $12.5 million was guaranteed.


Feb 27 Numerous teams are interested in signing Smith, including the Texans, Giants and Seahawks, according to the Arizona Republic.

Recommendation: Arizona hopes that Smith will give them a chance to match an offer, however, it's likely that Smith will play elsewhere in 2009. He will turn 28 in October, so he's not young by NFL standards, but he has significant upside after recording 5.5 sacks in his last 11 games last season (including the playoffs).
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6894
 
threetoedpete said:
Not compared to what Mario Willams will comand in a couple of years. Your beers at reliant stadium are going up.
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Yeah

Beers, ticket prices, food, parking Oh wait they've already done this yearly.

If we get MW D. Ryans & OD signed to extensions I'm O.K. with this.
 
Tailgate said:
I like it. Our draft just got a little bit easier.
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Exactly. The dline isn't getting attention in this year's draft.

That means LB or DB.

Or a stud WR or RB if a guy Smithiak wants is somehow still at 15. But even then, I wouldn't be surprised if we traded down and tried to get another 3rd rounder like we did last year.

Still, it's defense that needs more talent, specifically the further you get away from the line of scrimmage (DBs).
 
So which LB are we going to choose in the draft?

And, btw slatonisabeast, we are now officially not getting "pepers".
 
Hopefully he along with Bulman give us good production opposite Mario this season. Six or seven sacks from Smith and 4 or 5 from Bulman would be nice :)
 
I am not excited about this signing, but willing to take a wait and see attitude. Regardless, Brian Gardner now has my attention.
 
TexanSam said:
Hopefully he along with Bulman give us good production opposite Mario this season. Six or seven sacks from Smith and 4 or 5 from Bulman would be nice :)
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I'm thinking Bulman may go back to rotating at DT. Who knows though. We've got A.Smith, Cochran, Bulman that are all similar DE types. All lack elite quickness, weigh around 280 lbs and have some ability to rush the passer from End or Tackle. I still think we need to find a pure speed rusher just to rotate in 20 plays a game... perhpas McGlover fits the bill but I expect a mid round draftpick to go after that.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I am not excited about this signing, but willing to take a wait and see attitude. Regardless, Brian Gardner now has my attention.
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But isn't it an "OK" deal in terms of being heavily front-loaded this year, with less downside in years 2 and 3? I mean, Antonio is 28 and this puts him as a Texans player until he's 31. This would have been a bad deal if we had structured it as a 4,5, or 6-year deal right?

And we didn't lose a draft pick, specifically 2 first rounders.

And we don't have to reach on a rookie DE via the draft.

Yeah, in terms of how this plays out on the field...the last guy we went after for DE was a complete bust. Is it the residue off the Weaver deal that doesn't sit well with you?

I can see where some might think it's a "meh" signing. I have healthy expectations: Stay on the field, be disruptive all the time even if you're not owning a game, and never quit. And don't drift back into pass coverage, please.
 
Is he Peppers no but I think he will work out alright. The best part that I like about this deal is we still have all our picks and maybe we can pickup a DE like Ayers from Tenn in the 2nd as long as there not a run on DE.
 
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