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Dance Lindsay!
Wow, that was a great game.

But hey, please don't storm the field before the game is over.

Also, please don't storm the field a second time before the game is over.

Thanks,
NCAA fans every where.

PS Crabtree is a beast.
 
I'm surprised they didn't clear the field. People were piled up all the way to the endzone. The officials should have emptied the stadium, then proceeded with the final second.

Besides, doesn't rushing the field lose it's excitement when it's done a second & third time?
 
Counterfeiters take Texas Tech fans for a ride

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...e-Texas-Tech-fans-for-a-ride?urn=ncaaf,119260


Between an over-excited bell-ringer, half of the student section whispering "Why so serious?" and multiple stormings of the field, Texas Tech fans got about as rowdy Saturday night as 51,000 people can without reenacting the watering hole scene from 2001: A Space Odyssey or trampling on one another's heads. It was probably the biggest, most intense three hours in campus history.

But not everyone in Lubbock was overcome with the pageantry: Tech officials said Sunday that 500 latecomers trying to score tickets around the stadium -- including at least one Raider player trying to get a seat for a friend -- missed out on the fun when they were taken in by counterfeit tickets:

"They got robbed is what it was," said Dave Welsh, Tech assistant athletic director for ticket operations. "These (counterfeiters), I think they hit the big-time bowl games and the Super Bowl and so forth. They look just like our regular season-ticket stock, but the bar codes obviously aren’t going to match. It was heartbreaking seeing all these people get ripped off."

Heartbreaking to miss the game-winning Harrell-to-Crabtree connection and subsequent crowd explosion, yes. But if the same people showed up early for Game Day, they got to survive Bobby Knight, nailing the pick in classic Bob Knight form, and Lee Corso firing a pair of shotguns while blinded by a giant cartoon head for free.
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dear tech fans,

act like you've been there before....oh wait, you haven't...nevermind...but do take notice you do not see this anywhere else....that could have been very dangerous
 
The biggest game in the history of their school...let them enjoy it! Why would they act like they have been there before when they haven't? Wouldn't they have done it at one point before if they had done it before? After a game like that going down to the final second with a score like that vs. a team like on PrimeTime with a school and town that never gets any love? I wouldn't mind if they did it after every touchdown like the Dawgs team celebration last year vs. Florida. Jeezzz....heaven forbid fans, students, and Alumni in Lubbock get to celebrate anything. Please in an orderly fashion file out of the stadium in a single file line....This is what makes college football different from most other sports the energy and the excitement thats to be had under the lights....

Off my soap box...:kingkong:
 
JWarren14 said:
The biggest game in the history of their school...let them enjoy it! Why would they act like they have been there before when they haven't? Wouldn't they have done it at one point before if they had done it before? After a game like that going down to the final second with a score like that vs. a team like on PrimeTime with a school and town that never gets any love? I wouldn't mind if they did it after every touchdown like the Dawgs team celebration last year vs. Florida. Jeezzz....heaven forbid fans, students, and Alumni in Lubbock get to celebrate anything. Please in an orderly fashion file out of the stadium in a single file line....This is what makes college football different from most other sports the energy and the excitement thats to be had under the lights....

Off my soap box...:kingkong:
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LOL.

Rushing the field before the game is even over?

Nevermind acting like they have been there before (since they haven't), can they just please at least act like they have a brain?

I'm all for rushing the field.....AFTER the game.
 
Come on folks, give 'em a break. It was 1 sec left, the game was essentially over & after watching that play in real time, i too initially thought time had run out after it seemingly took him forever to break that tackle & tip-toe down the sideline.

If the game were in Austin & the shoe was on the other foot, i'm confident in assuming that some UT fans would've done the same thing .........................maybe they wouldn't have done it again after the extra point, but surely after the TD.
 
Mr teX said:
Come on folks, give 'em a break. It was 1 sec left, the game was essentially over & after watching that play in real time, i too initially thought time had run out after it seemingly took him forever to break that tackle & tip-toe down the sideline.

If the game were in Austin & the shoe was on the other foot, i'm confident in assuming that some UT fans would've done the same thing .........................maybe they wouldn't have done it again after the extra point, but surely after the TD.
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Honestly, I doubt UT fans would even rush the field in that situation.

I know it gets on other fans' nerves, but we can be a cocky group. We expect to beat Tech every year & even in a game as close and entertaining as that one, I don't think you would see UT fans rushing the field.

I could be wrong though...
 
Dear Tech fans,

I was wrong about your team.

I felt like Texas was still the best team in the Big XII even after ya'll beat us.

We are the second best team.

Your offense is unstopable and your defense is the most underrated unit in the conference.

Hope you beat the snot out of OU and clear the way for us to make the Fiesta Bowl.

Good luck.
 
bah007 said:
Dear Tech fans,

I was wrong about your team.

I felt like Texas was still the best team in the Big XII even after ya'll beat us.

We are the second best team.

Your offense is unstopable and your defense is the most underrated unit in the conference.

Hope you beat the snot out of OU and clear the way for us to make the Fiesta Bowl.

Good luck.
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Wait - don't we want OU to win that game so Texas can pass Tech in the BCS?
 
Well yeah but if it means our ONLY shot at a national title? It must be done.

Plus - it's not like they're playing a team we like. Won't be hard to root against Tech and their poor, poor Lubbock-imprisoned fans.
 
If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, it's possible that OU jumps ahead of Texas in the BCS standings. At that point, it's the BCS standings that decide who goes to the Big 12 Championship game and it could be Oklahoma. And if they win that game, they could go to the National Championship game as well.
 
TexanSam said:
If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, it's possible that OU jumps ahead of Texas in the BCS standings. At that point, it's the BCS standings that decide who goes to the Big 12 Championship game and it could be Oklahoma. And if they win that game, they could go to the National Championship game as well.
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Right, but we have NO shot to make the title game if Tech beats OU in that game and wins out, even if UT wins out - right?
 
bah007 said:
Dear Tech fans,

I was wrong about your team.

I felt like Texas was still the best team in the Big XII even after ya'll beat us.

We are the second best team.

Your offense is unstopable and your defense is the most underrated unit in the conference.

Hope you beat the snot out of OU and clear the way for us to make the Fiesta Bowl.

Good luck.
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thanks for this post. as i've said elsewhere, the big 12 south is pure nasty and tech is the only team that has survived to 10-0. whatever your reservations about tech and their history (i'm first to admit my doubts), and how unlikely it is that they'll continue their gauntlet to beat OK, tech's earned respect as a complete team and has worked their way to the top tier as a team and not a gimmick.
 
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TexanSam said:
If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, it's possible that OU jumps ahead of Texas in the BCS standings. At that point, it's the BCS standings that decide who goes to the Big 12 Championship game and it could be Oklahoma. And if they win that game, they could go to the National Championship game as well.
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As long as Texas wins out, OU will not be able to pass them in the BCS.

If TCU had not lost, then maybe.

But every time OU wins, Texas gets a boost in the computers. The human voters would probably have to drop Texas in the polls for it to happen. I don't think they will get a chance to.
 
bah007 said:
Dear Tech fans,

I was wrong about your team.

I felt like Texas was still the best team in the Big XII even after ya'll beat us.

We are the second best team.

Your offense is unstopable and your defense is the most underrated unit in the conference.

Hope you beat the snot out of OU and clear the way for us to make the Fiesta Bowl.

Good luck.
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Thank you. I have the feeling we are going to need all the luck we can get in Norman.
 
Mr teX said:
Good for you, but you can never account for the drunken retards & what they might do...
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I'm sorry, have you ever been to a game in Columbus?

What's the difference between a Buckeye fan and a Texas fan?

At least the Buckeye fan is only rude when he's drunk (which is Thursday PM through Sunday afternoon, weekly) (runs and hides).
 
Meh..... Who cares about the Little 11??

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Tech's win was really..... really impressive. Big 12 this year has really been fun to watch (except the Ags of course:gun:).
 
bah007 said:
As long as Texas wins out, OU will not be able to pass them in the BCS.

If TCU had not lost, then maybe.

But every time OU wins, Texas gets a boost in the computers. The human voters would probably have to drop Texas in the polls for it to happen. I don't think they will get a chance to.
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I think that if Oklahoma beats Tech, they jump Texas. Texas is only 1 spot ahead of Oklahoma, and if they beat the number 2 ranked team, they deserve to jump a spot.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
And the Huskers. *runs from the Mrs.*
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Texan_Bill said:
Don't run to the north... DiapHer will cut you off at the pass.
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So much for the positive rep I gave you for your joke!!! :tomato:



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rmartin65 said:
I think that if Oklahoma beats Tech, they jump Texas. Texas is only 1 spot ahead of Oklahoma, and if they beat the number 2 ranked team, they deserve to jump a spot.
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That's the kind of backwards thinking that creates all this chaos in the first place. This "what have you done for me lately" crap is ridiculous. A team's ENTIRE season should be taken into account, not just the last half.

Texas beat Oklahoma by 10 on a neutral field, plus they will have a higher strength of schedule at the end of the season. Period.

On top of that, the BCS doesn't care what place a team is in in the polls. Only how much points they acquire.

For example:

Coaches poll:
OU #4 - 1314 points (.8616)
UT #5 - 1300 points (.8525)

Harris poll:
UT #4 - 2471 (.8670)
OU #5 - 2427 (.8516)

Computers:
UT #3 - .920
OU #5 - .820

Even though Oklahoma is ranked higher in the coaches poll right now, to the BCS they are practically tied.

Even if OU wins out, they have no shot of passing Texas in the computers. So the human voters would have to throw OU up to #1 & keep Texas down at around #5 for OU to even have a shot.

IF OU beats Tech, I'm guessing the human polls will look like this:
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Texas Tech

I'm not saying that is the way it should be. Just the way it probably will be.
 
DiehardChris said:
Also, let's not underestimate the national media's obsession with USC. Sigh.
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USC has no chance unless there is Big XII and SEC chaos.

The computers have them at #8.

If there is chaos in the end, then watch out for Utah. They have a better shot of getting in than USC.
 
bah007 said:
That's the kind of backwards thinking that creates all this chaos in the first place. This "what have you done for me lately" crap is ridiculous. A team's ENTIRE season should be taken into account, not just the last half.

Texas beat Oklahoma by 10 on a neutral field, plus they will have a higher strength of schedule at the end of the season. Period.

On top of that, the BCS doesn't care what place a team is in in the polls. Only how much points they acquire.

For example:

Coaches poll:
OU #4 - 1314 points (.8616)
UT #5 - 1300 points (.8525)

Harris poll:
UT #4 - 2471 (.8670)
OU #5 - 2427 (.8516)

Computers:
UT #3 - .920
OU #5 - .820

Even though Oklahoma is ranked higher in the coaches poll right now, to the BCS they are practically tied.

Even if OU wins out, they have no shot of passing Texas in the computers. So the human voters would have to throw OU up to #1 & keep Texas down at around #5 for OU to even have a shot.

IF OU beats Tech, I'm guessing the human polls will look like this:
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Texas Tech

I'm not saying that is the way it should be. Just the way it probably will be.
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The only reason those bcs rankings look like that is b/c Oklahoma hasn't run into thier gauntlet of games yet... Oklahoma should & will jump Texas if they beat Tech & beat Ok. state.

Florida deserves to jump them too if they knock off Bama in the NC.
 
So... Tech wins out and Bama loses and then beats FL in the SEC title game?

Not likely (way to punk out LSU). Given that, why not Texas v. Texas Tech for the BCS Title?

(my plan really hinged on LSU beating Bama, though).
 
Mr teX said:
The only reason those bcs rankings look like that is b/c Oklahoma hasn't run into thier gauntlet of games yet... Oklahoma should & will jump Texas if they beat Tech & beat Ok. state.

Florida deserves to jump them too if they knock off Bama in the NC.
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Explain the bolded part.

If Florida wins the SEC of course they deserve to go in.
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
So... Tech wins out and Bama loses and then beats FL in the SEC title game?

Not likely (way to punk out LSU). Given that, why not Texas v. Texas Tech for the BCS Title?

(my plan really hinged on LSU beating Bama, though).
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Texas could get in to face Tech.

But more likely the human voters would vault up Utah, USC, or Penn St ahead of them.
 
bah007 said:
Explain the bolded part.

If Florida wins the SEC of course they deserve to go in.
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well.....if nothing else

Oklahoma will have beat the same team that beat texas who's ranked higher as of right now...

Oklahoma will have played the same teams texas has & if they win all of those....Plus they beat a surprising TCU team in non conference play.

Oklahoma lost early enough to have recovered & lost to a higher ranked team in Texas (#5) than UT did (#7)

Oklahoma is seemingly playing better as of right now.

Not really sientific or BCS formula based....
 
Mr teX said:
The only reason those bcs rankings look like that is b/c Oklahoma hasn't run into thier gauntlet of games yet... Oklahoma should & will jump Texas if they beat Tech & beat Ok. state.

Florida deserves to jump them too if they knock off Bama in the NC.
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Nevermind the fact that UT beat OU and Ok. State, right?

Let's not forget that UT also beat Mizzou.

The only way OU should be ranked higher then UT is if UT loses to the aggies.
 
Mr teX said:
well.....if nothing else

Oklahoma will have beat the same team that beat texas who's ranked higher as of right now...

Oklahoma will have played the same teams texas has & if they win all of those....Plus they beat a surprising TCU team in non conference play.

Oklahoma lost early enough to have recovered & lost to a higher ranked team in Texas (#5) than UT did (#7)

Oklahoma is seemingly playing better as of right now.

Not really sientific or BCS formula based....
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It doesn't matter what a team is ranked when you beat them.

Clemson was #9 when Alabama beat them. So what?

What matter is where a team is at the end.

I could make the argument that Tech was underrated when they played Texas (thus they were ranked lower than they should have been).
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Nevermind the fact that UT beat OU and Ok. State, right?

Let's not forget that UT also beat Mizzou.

The only way OU should be ranked higher then UT is if UT loses to the aggies.
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when you're playing in such a deep league, teams will beat up on each other....LSU lost 2 games last year to amazingly deep SEC so Texas just can't hang their hat on the fact that they beat OU on a neutral field. It was far from dominating. OU will be getting the same teams UT got & if they beat the Tech team that beat Texas, that should about even their lost to texas out.

Mizzou is overrated & Ok. State looks spent although it will be tough for the sooners in stillwater.
 
bah007 said:
It doesn't matter what a team is ranked when you beat them.

Clemson was #9 when Alabama beat them. So what?

What matter is where a team is at the end.

I could make the argument that Tech was underrated when they played Texas (thus they were ranked lower than they should have been).
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It does..it just doesn't reflect in the BCS rankings directly...more so in the human polls which in turn are reflected in the BCS rankings. You pretty much just diagramed that in a few posts above. It's really about the only way teams like TCU & Utah get up there b/c we all know they aren't playing anybody in conference. they primarily move up b/c of the human polls
 
Mr teX said:
when you're playing in such a deep league, teams will beat up on each other....LSU lost 2 games last year to amazingly deep SEC so Texas just can't hang their hat on the fact that they beat OU on a neutral field. It was far from dominating. OU will be getting the same teams UT got & if they beat the Tech team that beat Texas, that should about even their lost to texas out.

Mizzou is overrated & Ok. State looks spent although it will be tough for the sooners in stillwater.
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The best way to determine who the better team is by playing on a NEUTRAL FIELD.

That's why the bowl games are played at neutral fields. You take away the advantages so that it is just Team A vs Team B.

If you beat a team on a neutral field & finish the season with the same number of losses as them there is no way that team you beat can be considered better than you.

That is a ludicrous idea.
 
Mr teX said:
It does..it just doesn't reflect in the BCS rankings directly...more so in the human polls which in turn are reflected in the BCS rankings. You pretty much just diagramed that in a few posts above. It's really about the only way teams like TCU & Utah get up there b/c we all know they aren't playing anybody in conference. they primarily move up b/c of the human polls
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If we go that route:

Texas would have beaten teams that were #1 (neutral), #6 (home), & #11 (home) at the time they played. They would have lost to #7 (road).

Oklahoma would have beaten teams that were #2 (home), , #13 (road), #16 (home), & #24 (home) at the time they played. They would have lost to #5 (neutral).

Even if you play that game, Texas looks more impressive in that regard as well as the head to head victory.
 
bah007 said:
The best way to determine who the better team is by playing on a NEUTRAL FIELD.

That's why the bowl games are played at neutral fields. You take away the advantages so that it is just Team A vs Team B.

If you beat a team on a neutral field & finish the season with the same number of losses as them there is no way that team you beat can be considered better than you.

That is a ludicrous idea.
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I agree... I'm not saying that Texas beating OU isn't a quality win, i'm just saying the fact that UT beat OU isn't the end-all-be-all like some here believe. If they all wind up losing only 1 game to each other after they finish with their respective gauntlet of games, they're all even imo & at that point it becomes postioning as far as where the teams are at that point & who's been playing better & more consistently...& since OU is the last of them to go thru their gauntlet all those things are in their favor......if they win out.
 
bah007 said:
If we go that route:

Texas would have beaten teams that were #1 (neutral), #6 (home), & #11 (home) at the time they played. They would have lost to #7 (road).

Oklahoma would have beaten teams that were #2 (home), , #13 (road), #16 (home), & #24 (home) at the time they played. They would have lost to #5 (neutral).

Even if you play that game, Texas looks more impressive in that regard as well as the head to head victory.
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umm....beating 4 ranked teams vs. 3 looks more impressive to me but i digress. The 3 of them look even from having watched them all play at 1 point or another...they all can be beat by each other on any given night.

We won't know how texas ranks among the 3 until OU finishes up its schedule, which, outside of homerism is the only reason some here believe Texas is head & shoulders better than Tech & OU.
 
Mr teX said:
umm....beating 4 ranked teams vs. 3 looks more impressive to me but i digress. The 3 of them look even from having watched them all play at 1 point or another...they all can be beat by each other on any given night.

We won't know how texas ranks among the 3 until OU finishes up its schedule, which, outside of homerism is the only reason some here believe Texas is head & shoulders better than Tech & OU.
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Well despite the fact that I already admitted that Tech is a better team than Texas.....and Texas BEAT Oklahoma, then sure. Whatever.

If anyone can be accused of homerism in this little debate it is you.

I have provided plenty of evidence that proves that UT has done more this season than OU and all you came back with was that you think Oklahoma is, "seemingly playing better as of right now".

As for OU beating four ranked teams to UT's three, how about Texas playing the #8 schedule in the country and coming out with only one loss. As opposed to Oklahoma playing the #43 schedule and coming out with (maybe) only one loss?
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
USC in the Rose Bowl? LSU in the Sugar Bowl/Title Game? Florida or Miami in the Orange Bowl?

Neutral?
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C'mon man....
Pasadena is completely cross town from South Central.
New Orleans is 80 miles from Red Stick.
Gainesville is 340 miles to Miami.
The only valid argument is Miami in the Orange Bowl....


:stirpot:
 
bah007 said:
Each school gets 50% of the tickets for bowl games so location is meaningless.....unless your fan base doesn't buy all 50%.
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FALSE. Because of stadium agreements, local season ticket holders get a crack. I have friends with Saints season tickets - they bought national champsionship tickets early on (who wouldn't).

Another example - As a Reliant season ticket holder I buy Texas Bowl seats every year. If U of H had a larger fan base, it would give them a huge advantage. I bought Big 12 championship tickets before they went on sale (Texas). I bought NCAA basketball tickets before they went on sale (Texas).

Despite getting tickets for cool events, I think it's crappy for teams who suddenly are playing an away game. Ohio State travels easily top 5 team in the country. We dominated New Orleans for days before the title game (many LSU fans were surprised by how many Buckeyes were in the city). Suddenly we walk into the stadium and BOOM - 70/30 LSU fans. I found out later it was due to a large chunk (I don't know how many) of Saints season ticket holders buying tickets before they went on sale.

I guess my point is "neutral" fields don't exist in those situations.
 
Texan_Bill said:
C'mon man....
Pasadena is completely cross town from South Central.
New Orleans is 80 miles from Red Stick.
Gainesville is 340 miles to Miami.
The only valid argument is Miami in the Orange Bowl....


:stirpot:
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Ok, maybe I'm wrong about Florida, I don't know Miami geography :-P. But any team who can drive 6 hours or less has an advantage over a team flying from half way across the county.
 
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