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WolverineFan Post-Combine Position Rankings

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OFFENSE:
QB
1. *Jared Goff, California (6-4, 215)
2. Carson Wentz, North Dakota State (6-5, 232)
3. *Paxton Lynch, Memphis (6-6, 244)
4. Connor Cook, Michigan State (6-4, 217)
5. Dak Prescott, Mississippi State (6-2, 226)
6. Jacoby Brissett, NC State (6-3, 231)
7. *Christian Hackenberg, Penn State (6-4, 223)
8. Kevin Hogan, Stanford (6-3, 218)
9. Vernon Adams, Oregon (5-11, 200)
10. Brandon Allen, Arkansas (6-1, 217)
11. Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech (6-4, 234)
12. Cody Kessler, USC (6-1, 220)
13. Nate Sudfeld, Indiana (6-6, 234)
14. Jake Coker, Alabama (6-5, 236)
15. *Cardale Jones, Ohio State (6-5, 253)


RB
1. *Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State (6-0, 225)
2. Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech (5-10, 215)
3. *Alex Collins, Arkansas (5-10, 217)
4. Devontae Booker, Utah (5-10, 219)
5. *Derrick Henry, Alabama (6-2, 247)
6. *Paul Perkins, UCLA (5-10, 208)
7. *Jordan Howard, Indiana (6-0, 230)
8. *C.J. Prosise, Notre Dame (6-0, 220)
9. *Wendell Smallwood, West Virginia (5-10, 208)
10. Keith Marshall, Georgia (5-11, 219)
11. DeAndre Washington, Texas Tech (5-8, 204)
12. Jonathan Williams, Arkansas (5-10, 220)
13. Kenyan Drake, Alabama (6-0, 210)
14. Tyler Ervin, San Jose State (5-10, 192)
15. Daniel Lasco, California (6-0, 209)
16. Josh Ferguson, Illinois (5-9, 198)
17. Tre Madden, USC (6-0, 223)
18. Aaron Green, TCU (5-11, 202)
19. Marshaun Coprich, Illinois State (5-8, 207)
20. Byron Marshall, Oregon (5-9, 201)
21. D.J. Foster, Arizona State (5-10, 193)
22. Travis Greene, Bowling Green (5-10, 189)
23. *Peyton Barber, Auburn (5-10, 228)
24. Shadrach Thornton, NC State (5-11, 217)
25. Brandon Wilds, South Carolina (6-0, 220)


FB
1. Dan Vitale, Northwestern (6-1, 239)
2. *Glenn Gronkowski, Kansas State (6-2, 239)
3. Andy Janovich, Nebraska (6-1, 238)
4. Derek Watt, Wisconsin (6-2, 236)
5. Sione Houma, Michigan (6-0, 243)


WR
1. *Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss (6-2, 221)
2. Josh Doctson, TCU (6-2, 202)
3. Leonte Carroo, Rutgers (6-0, 211)
4. *Corey Coleman, Baylor (5-10, 194)
5. *Michael Thomas, Ohio State (6-2, 212)
6. Braxton Miller, Ohio State (6-1, 201)
7. Aaron Burbridge, Michigan State (6-0, 206)
8. Tajae Sharpe, UMass (6-2, 194)
9. Jordan Payton, UCLA (6-1, 207)
10. Charone Peake, Clemson (6-2, 209)
11. *Marquez North, Tennessee (6-2, 223)
12. Ricardo Louis, Auburn (6-1, 215)
13. Geronimo Allison, Illinois (6-3, 196)
14. Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa (6-3, 220)
15. *Cayleb Jones, Arizona (6-2, 209)
16. Chris Moore, Cincinnati (6-1, 206)
17. Jay Lee, Baylor (6-2, 215)
18. Cody Core, Ole Miss (6-2, 205)
19. Canaan Severin, Virginia (6-2, 205)
20. Rashawn Scott, Miami (6-1, 199)
21. *Kenny Lawler, California (6-2, 203)
22. *Demarcus Robinson, Florida (6-1, 203)
23. Alonzo Russell, Toledo (6-3, 206)
24. Paul McRoberts, Southeast Missouri (6-3, 197)
25. Chris Brown, Notre Dame (6-2, 194)


SLOT
1. *Tyler Boyd, Pittsburgh (6-1, 197)
2. Sterling Shepard, Oklahoma (5-10, 194)
3. Pharoh Cooper, South Carolina (5-11, 203)
4. *Will Fuller, Notre Dame (6-0, 186)
5. Malcolm Mitchell, Georgia (5-11, 198)
6. *Rashard Higgins, Colorado State (6-1, 196)
7. Trevor Davis, California (6-1, 188)
8. *Roger Lewis, Bowling Green (6-0, 201)
9. *Bralon Addison, Oregon (5-9, 197)
10. *Jalin Marshall, Ohio State (5-10, 200)
11. K.J. Maye, Minnesota (5-10, 194)
12. *Daniel Braverman, Western Michigan (5-10, 177)
13. Kolby Listenbee, TCU (6-0, 197)
14. Jaydon Mickens, Washington (5-11, 170)
15. Jakeem Grant, Texas Tech (5-6, 169)


TE-Y
1. *Austin Hooper, Stanford (6-3, 254)
2. *Hunter Henry, Arkansas (6-4, 250)
3. Nick Vannett, Ohio State (6-6, 257)
4. Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky (6-5, 249)
5. Beau Sandland, Montana State (6-4, 253)
6. Ben Braunecker, Harvard (6-3, 250)
7. David Morgan, UTSA (6-4, 262)
8. Bryce Wiliams, East Carolina (6-5, 257)
9. Jake McGee, Florida (6-5, 250)
10. *David Grinnage, NC State (6-5, 248)


TE-F
1. Jerrell Adams, South Carolina (6-5, 247)
2. *De'Runnya Wilson, Mississippi State (6-4, 224)
3. *Thomas Duarte, UCLA (6-2, 231)
4. Devon Cajuste, Stanford (6-3, 234)
5. Darion Griswold, Arkansas State (6-3, 249)
6. Temarrick Hemingway, South Carolina State (6-4, 244)
7. Stephen Anderson, California (6-2, 230)
8. Kyle Carter, Penn State (6-3, 247)
9. Christian Jones, Northwestern (6-3, 225)
10. Joshua Perkins, Washington (6-4, 226)


OT
1. *Laremy Tunsil, Ole Miss (6-5, 310)
2. *Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame (6-5, 312)
3. Jason Spriggs, Indiana (6-5, 301)
4. *Jack Conklin, Michigan State (6-5, 308)
5. Shon Coleman, Auburn (6-5, 307)
6. Le'Raven Clark, Texas Tech (6-5, 316)
7. Joe Haeg, North Dakota State (6-6, 304)
8. Taylor Decker, Ohio State (6-7, 310)
9. *Germain Ifedi, Texas A&M (6-5, 324)
10. John Theus, Georgia (6-6, 313)
11. Willie Beavers, Western Michigan (6-4, 321)
12. Kyle Murphy, Stanford (6-6, 305)
13. Tyler Johnston, Oregon (6-5, 301)
14. Fahn Cooper, Ole Miss (6-4, 303)
15. *Caleb Benenoch, UCLA (6-5, 311)
16. Brandon Shell, South Carolina (6-5, 324)
17. Halapoulivaati Vaitai, TCU (6-6, 320)
18. *Jerald Hawkins, LSU (6-5, 305)
19. Stephane Nembot, Colorado (6-6, 322)
20. Dominique Robertson, West Georgia (6-4, 324)


OG
1. Joshua Garnett, Stanford (6-4, 312)
2. Cody Whitehair, Kansas State (6-3, 301)
3. Vadal Alexander, LSU (6-5, 326)
4. Christian Westerman, Arizona State (6-3, 198)
5. *Denver Kirkland, Arkansas (6-4, 335)
6. Spencer Drango, Baylor (6-5, 315)
7. Connor McGovern, Missouri (6-4, 306)
8. Landon Turner, North Carolina (6-3, 330)
9. Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas (6-4, 314)
10. Joe Thuney, NC State (6-4, 304)
11. Joe Dahl, Washington State (6-4, 304)
12. Rees Odhiambo, Boise State (6-4, 314)
13. Parker Ehinger, Cincinnati (6-6, 310)
14. Alex Lewis, Nebraska (6-6, 312)
15. Cole Toner, Harvard (6-5, 306)
16. Dominik Jackson, Alabama (6-5, 313)
17. Ted Karras, Illinois (6-4, 310)
18. Aaron Morris, Ole Miss (6-5, 313)
19. *Alex Redmond, UCLA (6-4, 294)
20. *Avery Young, Auburn (6-6, 316)


C
1. Ryan Kelly, Alabama (6-4, 311)
2. Nick Martin, Notre Dame (6-4, 299)
3. *Isaac Seumalo, Oregon State (6-4, 303)
4. Graham Glasgow, Michigan (6-6, 307)
5. Jack Allen, Michigan State (6-1, 294)
6. Max Tuerk, USC (6-5, 298)
7. Evan Boehm, Missouri (6-2, 302)
8. Austin Blythe, Iowa (6-2, 298)
9. Jake Brendel, UCLA (6-4, 303)
10. Matt Skura, Duke (6-3, 329)
 
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DEFENSE:
DT
1. Sheldon Rankins, Louisville (6-1, 299)
2. *Andrew Billings, Baylor (6-0, 311)
3. *Kenny Clark, UCLA (6-2, 314)
4. *A'Shawn Robinson, Alabama (6-3, 307)
5. Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech (6-3, 323)
6. Jarran Reed, Alabama (6-3, 307)
7. *Austin Johnson, Penn State (6-4, 314)
8. Adolphus Washington, Ohio State (6-3, 301)
9. *Maliek Collins, Nebraska (6-2, 311)
10. Javon Hargrave, South Carolina State (6-1, 309)
11. Matthew Ioannidis, Temple (6-3, 299)
12. *Willie Henry, Michigan (6-2, 303)
13. *Hassan Ridgeway, Texas (6-3, 303)
14. D.J. Reader, Clemson (6-2, 327)
15. Darius Latham, Indiana (6-4, 311)
16. Connor Wujciak, Boston College (6-2, 291)
17. Destiny Vaeao, Washington State (6-3, 300)
18. Chris Mayes, Georgia (6-3, 338)
19. Trevon Coley, Florida Atlantic (6-2, 300)
20. Davaunte Sigler, Jacksonville State (6-3, 298)


DE
1. DeForest Buckner, Oregon (6-7, 291)
2. Jonathan Bullard, Florida (6-3, 285)
3. Sheldon Day, Notre Dame (6-0, 293)
4. *Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss (6-3, 294)
5. Bronson Kaufusi, BYU (6-6, 285)
6. *Chris Jones, Mississippi State (6-5, 310)
7. Ronald Blair, Appalachian State (6-2, 284)
8. Aziz Shittu, Stanford (6-3, 279)
9. Dean Lowry, Northwestern (6-5, 296)
10. Shawn Oakman, Baylor (6-7, 287)
11. Jihad Ward, Illinois (6-5, 297)
12. Anthony Zettel, Penn State (6-4, 277)
13. *Quinton Jefferson, Maryland (6-4, 291)
14. Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech (6-4, 287)
15. Lawrence Thomas, Michigan State (6-3, 286)
16. Branden Jackson, Texas Tech (6-4, 273)
17. Joel Heath, Michigan State (6-5, 293)
18. Giorgio Newberry, Florida State (6-5, 285)
19. Ufomba Kamalu, Miami (6-5, 295)
20. Mehdi Abdesmad, Boston College (6-6, 284)


EDGE
1. *Joey Bosa, Ohio State (6-5, 269)
2. *Emmanuel Ogbah, Oklahoma State (6-4, 273)
3. *Shaq Lawson, Clemson (6-2, 269)
4. *Yannick Ngakoue, Maryland (6-2, 252)
5. *Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky (6-2, 251)
6. *Leonard Floyd, Georgia (6-6, 244)
7. Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State (6-4, 251)
8. Kyler Fackrell, Utat State (6-5, 245)
9. *Kevin Dodd, Clemson (6-5, 277)
10. *Kamalei Correa, Boise State (6-2, 243)
11. Carl Nassib, Penn State (6-6, 277)
12. Jordan Jenkins, Georgia (6-3, 259)
13. Charles Tapper, Oklahoma (6-2, 271)
14. Matthew Judon, Grand Valley State (6-3, 275)
15. Victor Ochi, Stony Brook (6-1, 246)
16. Jason Fanaika, Utah (6-1, 271)
17. James Cowser, Southern Utah (6-3, 248)
18. *Alex McCalister, Florida (6-6, 239)
19. *Stephen Weatherly, Vanderbilt (6-4, 267)
20. Dadi Nicolas, Virginia Tech (6-3, 235)


OLB
1. *Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame (6-2, 243)
2. *Myles Jack, UCLA (6-1, 245)
3. *Darron Lee, Ohio State (6-1, 232)
4. Joshua Perry, Ohio State (6-4, 254)
5. B.J. Goodson, Clemson (6-1, 242)
6. Antonio Morrison, Florida (6-1, 229)
7. De'Vondre Campbell, Minnesota (6-4, 232)
8. Travis Feeney, Washington (6-4, 230)
9. *Nick Vigil, Utah State (6-2, 239)
10. Terrance Smith, Florida State (6-3, 235)
11. Devante Bond, Oklahoma (6-1, 235)
12. *Beniquez Brown, Mississippi State (6-1, 229)
13. Jared Norris, Utah (6-1, 241)
14. Cory Littleton, Washington (6-3, 238)
15. C.J. Johnson, Ole Miss (6-1, 234)


ILB
1. Reggie Ragland, Alabama (6-1, 247)
2. Tyler Matakevich, Temple (6-0, 238)
3. Blake Martinez, Stanford (6-2, 237)
4. Joe Schobert, Wisconsin (6-1, 244)
5. Kentrell Brothers, Missouri (6-0, 245)
6. *Steve Longa, Rutgers (6-1, 241)
7. Nick Kwiatkoski, West Virginia (6-2, 243)
8. Steven Daniels, Boston College (5-11, 243)
9. *Scooby Wright, Arizona (6-0, 239)
10. Josh Forrest, Kentucky (6-3, 249)


HYBRID LB/S
1. *Su'a Cravens, USC (6-1, 226)
2. Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah (6-2, 217)
3. Deion Jones, LSU (6-1, 222)
4. Jatavis Brown, Akron (5-11, 222)
5. Eric Striker, Oklahoma (5-11, 227)
6. Montese Overton, East Carolina (6-2, 223)
7. *Dominique Alexander, Oklahoma (6-0, 232)
8. Tevin Carter, Utah (6-1, 218)
9. Zeek Bigger, East Carolina (6-2, 216)
10. James Burgess, Louisville (6-0, 229)


CB
1. *Mackensie Alexander, Clemson (5-10, 190)
2. *Vernon Hargreaves, Florida (5-10, 204)
3. *Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech (5-11, 187)
4. William Jackson, Houston (6-0, 189)
5. *Eli Apple, Ohio State (6-0, 199)
6. *Artie Burns, Miami (6-0, 193)
7. Sean Davis, Maryland (6-1, 201)
8. *Xavien Howard, Baylor (6-0, 201)
9. Deiondre Hall, Northern Iowa (6-1, 199)
10. Will Redmond, Mississippi State (5-10, 182)
11. James Bradberry, Samford (6-0, 211)
12. Morgan Burns, Kansas State (5-11, 201)
13. Maurice Canady, Virginia (6-1, 193)
14. *Rashard Robinson, LSU (6-1, 171)
15. DeAndre Elliott, Colorado State (6-0, 188)
16. Ken Crawley, Colorado (6-0, 187)
17. *Daryl Worley, West Virginia (6-0, 204)
18. Keivarae Russell, Notre Dame (5-11, 192)
19. Cre'von LeBlanc, Florida Atlantic (5-10, 195)
20. Leshaun Sims, Southern Utah (6-0, 203)


NICKEL
1. *Zack Sanchez, Oklahoma (5-10, 187)
2. Brian Poole, Florida (5-10, 204)
3. Cyrus Jones, Alabama (5-10, 197)
4. D.J. White, Georgia Tech (5-10, 193)
5. Kevon Seymour, USC (5-11, 186)
6. Jonathan Jones, Auburn (5-9, 186)
7. Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Minnesota (5-9, 193)
8. Tavon Young, Temple (5-9, 183)
9. Anthony Brown, Purdue (5-11, 192)
10. Kevin Peterson, Oklahoma State (5-10, 181)


FS
1. *Jalen Ramsey, Florida State (6-1, 209)
2. Jalen Mills, LSU (6-0, 191)
3. Darian Thompson, Boise State (6-2, 208)
4. *Vonn Bell, Ohio State (5-10, 199)
5. Justin Simmons, Boston College (6-2, 202)
6. Kevin Byard, Middle Tennessee (5-11, 217)
7. *T.J. Green, Clemson (6-2, 209)
8. DeAndre Houston-Carson, William & Mary (6-0, 201)
9. Juston Burris, NC State (6-0, 212)
10. Deon Bush, Miami (6-0, 199)


SS
1. *Keanu Neal, Florida (6-0, 211)
2. Karl Joseph, West Virginia (5-10, 205)
3. Jeremy Cash, Duke (6-0, 212)
4. K.J. Dillon, West Virginia (6-0, 210)
5. *Tyvis Powell, Ohio State (6-2, 211)
6. Eric Murray, Minnesota (5-10, 199)
7. Jordan Lucas, Penn State (5-11, 201)
8. *Jayron Kearse, Clemson (6-4, 216)
9. Derrick Kindred, TCU (5-10, 207)
10. Elijah Shumate, Notre Dame (5-11, 216)
 
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Thank you very much for these rankings. Will you edit these as we get closer to the draft?
 
Hopefully a mod can sticky this one also so edits can be made here and you don't have to compile a new list each edit. Also my memory sux so having it easy at hand for reference material is beneficial
 
bah007 said:
Awesome stuff. What's your take on Prosise? We differ on him a little bit it seems?
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I like his skill set but he is raw as a RB. He played WR his entire career until this year. He can't block and his vision is so-so. He plays behind an outstanding O-Line that made him look better than he is.

That's not to say I don't think he's a good prospect, but I do think he is a bit of a project who isn't going to offer the instant impact that most would expect from a Day 1-2 RB.
 
WolverineFan said:
I like his skill set but he is raw as a RB. He played WR his entire career until this year. He can't block and his vision is so-so. He plays behind an outstanding O-Line that made him look better than he is.

That's not to say I don't think he's a good prospect, but I do think he is a bit of a project who isn't going to offer the instant impact that most would expect from a Day 1-2 RB.
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I agree that he's not an instant starter. But I like him as a guy that can be your third down/passing back for a year while he develops in other areas. I think he has significant room to improve before he hits his ceiling. And in year two he would be more well-rounded and ready to step in for a full workload.
 
really like Rankins too. where do you project him & if available #22 does he fit 3-4 end (replacing Crick)?
 
My knock on Prosise is little hands 8 1/4" if it weren't for that I would like him a lot more.
 
beerlover said:
really like Rankins too. where do you project him & if available #22 does he fit 3-4 end (replacing Crick)?
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I think he will go top 20. I don't like him in a 3-4 though. I would use him like Aaron Donald. Stick him at 3' tech and isolate him 1-on-1 against G's and C's.
 
bah007 said:
@WolverineFan

What about Vaitai? I seem to like him a ton more. I might even like him as early as the 3rd and you seem to have him more in the 6th/7th?
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Average athlete who has the length to play RT but may have to move inside to compensate. Don't think he plays with consistent technique. Should be more dominant at the POA than he is. Plays too high and struggles with speed. Vaitai and Jerald Hawkins are two guys who are RT prospects with inconsistent technique who might have to move to OG to compensate for issues blocking speed. Issue with that is both guys play with poor pad level which makes a move inside tough.
 
WolverineFan said:
Average athlete who has the length to play RT but may have to move inside to compensate. Don't think he plays with consistent technique. Should be more dominant at the POA than he is. Plays too high and struggles with speed. Vaitai and Jerald Hawkins are two guys who are RT prospects with inconsistent technique who might have to move to OG to compensate for issues blocking speed. Issue with that is both guys play with poor pad level which makes a move inside tough.
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Hawkins is a guy I might need to look at harder. I like his ceiling but the more I saw of him the more his flaws stood out. Might be a little too blinded by the potential.
 
bah007 said:
Hawkins is a guy I might need to look at harder. I like his ceiling but the more I saw of him the more his flaws stood out. Might be a little too blinded by the potential.
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I was never impressed with him at LSU. Alexander and Pocic were far better IMO. Hawkins automatically got this 2nd/3rd round grade by most as soon as he declared but his hype has started to slide and slide as the process has gone on. I wouldn't be surprised if some people even forgot that he declared because he's been pretty much invisible during the process.
 
QB's Our rankings are pretty much the same. I wonder what Arians could do with a guy like Driskell.

RB'- Like them I've got Howard rated as my #3 RB and Marshall rated #5. I dont see any special traits in Booker although he is a solid back.

WR- Doctson is my #1 rated WR. He kinda reminds me of Jerry Rice with the smooth way he uns his routes and wins contested balls. (I'm not predicting he will be Rice) Glad to see you have Peake/North rated up there. Good chance they will be better in the pro's than in college.

Slot- Fuller is #1 for me Boyd #3 and Cooper # 4. Love Malcolm Mitchell he's got potential to be the best slot in this draft.

TE- Same, I really think Cajuste has a chance tobe the best TE in this class. Better than Jordan Reed/Niles Paul.

OT- That low on Decker? I think he's a RT only but a very good one. I'm very high on Fahn Cooper and down the road I believe he has a chance to be better than Coleman. In other words a top 5 OT.

OG- Love Alexander #1 and Whitehair. Good to see we think the same about Westerman (Tough guy) My sleeper Thuney.

C- Glasgow is my #1, Martin #2, Kelly #3. All 3 are day 1 starters and upgrades over Ben Jones.

DT- Billings/Butler are 1-2 for me. Very underrated are Hargrave/Latham/Ridgeway.

DE- Cant believe Nkemdiche is so low, I guess you have character concerns. Love Chris (Genitals) Jones and Bullard.

Edge- Pretty much the same. I see Nassib as a DE more than an edge.

OLB- Smith is a 5-6th rd pick for me. Love Lee and somebody will get a steal with Vigil.

ILB- Same

SS/LB hybrid- Cravens should be a 1st rd pick but probably wont be. Better than Shaq Thompson. On par or better than Buchanon. I'm really high on Cravens, would be a perfect fit in the Texans defense.

CB- I've got Jackson rated ahead of Hargreaves, I agree with Alexander rated #1 although the no ints thing bothers me and hamstring issues.

Nickel- dont know much about these guys although I do like Poole

FS- Agreed although with these ranking I hope Bush falls to the 5th. He would upgrade the S spot I think he can play SS. He will immediately upgrade ST's.

SS- I've got Dillon ranked only behind Ramsey/Mills in the Safety class. Dude is very underrated and got alot of talent. Better than Neal. IMHO Neal reminds me of Elam.

K/P have you checked any of them out?

Thanks for your time you put in to rank these guys. It gives us something to discuss during the offseason.
 
steelbtexan said:
DE- Cant believe Nkemdiche is so low, I guess you have character concerns. Love Chris (Genitals) Jones and Bullard.

SS/LB hybrid- Cravens should be a 1st rd pick but probably wont be. Better than Shaq Thompson. On par or better than Buchanon. I'm really high on Cravens, would be a perfect fit in the Texans defense.

K/P have you checked any of them out?
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Appreciate the commentary. Wanted to answer a few of these that stuck out to me.

Nkemdiche - It's not just character concerns (although the concern is substantial). The guy had 4 sacks in 24 starts against power 5 competition. For some reason nobody talks about this.

Cravens - I think he's on par with Thompson (who I loved). He's not as good as Bucannon though. Bucannon was criminally underrated when he came out.

K/P - I don't rank Kickers or Punters. It's not a position that I'm comfortable evaluating because it's just so much different than evaluating position players.
 
WolverineFan said:
K/P - I don't rank Kickers or Punters. It's not a position that I'm comfortable evaluating because it's just so much different than evaluating position players.
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A draftnik who doesn't pretend to have all the answers and outright says he doesn't know enough about the position to evaluate it fairly? Refreshing. Good stuff as always Wolverine.
 
powda said:
A draftnik who doesn't pretend to have all the answers and outright says he doesn't know enough about the position to evaluate it fairly? Refreshing. Good stuff as always Wolverine.
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Even the most dedicated Draftniks who really put in the time, do the research and watch 7-8 games per player, they can only make informed decisions on 200 - 300 players.
 
Texian said:
Even the most dedicated Draftniks who really put in the time, do the research and watch 7-8 games per player, they can only make informed decisions on 200 - 300 players.
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No doubt. I've formed opinions on guys like pax lynch based on highlights, scouting reports, and limited game film ive watched. I understand for every good game i watched there maybe 3 bad ones. I also realize im speaking out of turn to comment in depth on any prospect from south Delaware poly tech. That's not always the case for draftniks who like proving "i know more then you."
 
powda said:
No doubt. I've formed opinions on guys like pax lynch based on highlights, scouting reports, and limited game film ive watched. I understand for every good game i watched there maybe 3 bad ones. I also realize im speaking out of turn to comment in depth on any prospect from south Delaware poly tech. That's not always the case for draftniks who like proving "i know more then you."
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powda said:
No doubt. I've formed opinions on guys like pax lynch based on highlights, scouting reports, and limited game film ive watched. I understand for every good game i watched there maybe 3 bad ones. I also realize im speaking out of turn to comment in depth on any prospect from south Delaware poly tech. That's not always the case for draftniks who like proving "i know more then you."
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Agree some assume it an assault on their manhood and Draftnikness to not know everything about every player who has played a college football game. It's against their constitution to admit they no little if nothing at all about a player. Often when they offer up their expertise opinion of the guy from Delaware poly tech, a little research will sometimes find a very similar critique made earlier by someone else. When it comes to admitting they made a mistake or didn't get it right...well...that animal is almost extinct.

In fairness, 30+ years ago I was a lot like the draftnik described above.
 
powda said:
A draftnik who doesn't pretend to have all the answers and outright says he doesn't know enough about the position to evaluate it fairly? Refreshing. Good stuff as always Wolverine.
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This is why I find this section of the MB so refreshing. We can agree or disagree but I respect all of you guys opinion. The hardwork that is based on spending time checking out guys by WF/Texian/Bah/BB/MW/DG etc... is appreciate.

For instance Texian came out hot on Wentz and I started checking him out. I cant believe WF has Glasgow lower than I do. I defer to him on that one, because he has seen much more of Glasgow than I have.
 
steelbtexan said:
This is why I find this section of the MB so refreshing. We can agree or disagree but I respect all of you guys opinion. The hardwork that is based on spending time checking out guys by WF/Texian/Bah/BB/MW/DG etc... is appreciate.

For instance Texian came out hot on Wentz and I started checking him out. I cant believe WF has Glasgow lower than I do. I defer to him on that one, because he has seen much more of Glasgow than I have.
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I typically rate Michigan players lower than most but that's because I've watched every single snap of their careers so I've seen all the bad tape (for example, Joe Bolden, I was baffled when he got an all star invite; he's been the weak link on UM's defense for 2 years).

Glasgow is going to be good though. It's just a very talented Center group this year. I have him as the 4th rated Center yet still a 3rd rounder.
 
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