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Who Do YOU Blame For this Loss?

Who do YOU blame for this loss?

  • Coaches

    Votes: 12 6.9%

  • Offense

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Defense

    Votes: 50 28.6%

  • The Whole Team

    Votes: 66 37.7%

  • David Carr

    Votes: 6 3.4%

  • The D Line

    Votes: 13 7.4%

  • The O Line

    Votes: 9 5.1%

  • My Mother

    Votes: 17 9.7%
  • Total voters
    175
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HomeBred_Texan

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I saw the same game as you did. I sit in the end zone in the 500 level and have been there in the same seats from Day 1. But had mixed feelings about this loss since we cannot blame Capers.
 
When you can't stop Westbrook from running down the middle at the end of the 4th quarter, you deserve to lose. He's great in space, but he's not a between the tackles bruiser, and thats what he looked like at the end of the game.

Our DL was embarassing in pass rush
 
I am taking option I since it isn't listed: The defense as a whole, the offensine line, and your mother HomeBred.

And before anyone gets all crazy that I am personally attacking HomeBred, his mother was one of the choices to blame the game on.
 
There is No one person that cost this team the game. It failed on every aspect. Entire Team can be the only answer.
 
IMO, it falls mostly to the defense as a whole. Not good up front and leaky deep. Probably about 60% on them and 25% on the O-line and the rest just generally spread around.
 
Texans Pride said:
I am taking option I since it isn't listed: The defense as a whole, the offensine line, and your mother HomeBred.

And before anyone gets all crazy that I am personally attacking HomeBred, his mother was one of the choices to blame the game on.
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So far she has 2 votes, LOL....

I told her she needed to do those chunky soup commercials for the Texans...

All is good....:yahoo:
 
Two players had good games on the Texans.... Carr and Ryans.

The defense gave it up. Holes in coverage, getting beat by Westbrook and Buckhalter in numerous flare/screen plays (except one where Dunta shut it down).

David Carr had success when he played deep. I can't believe I am saying it but he really did well with the deep passes. Kubiak may be onto something here....

Our running game was unsuccessful due to the fact that the Eagles D-line is so strong, especially when they are against the Texans O-line. Five sacks, but I wasn't surprised by that. What surprised me is how well David played. He dogged one sack (I admit it was his fault, he could have avoided it), but three of them were not his fault whatsoever... just the Eagles D-line and a tough blitz.

Ryans shut down many plays. He is the future leader of this Texans defense. I can't wait to see what he can do once we get moving.

All in all.... I really can't say I expected much. The first quarter was a mirage... we played really well for a while. But we had to face the fact that their D-line was just too much for us at current strength.
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
I saw the same game as you did. I sit in the end zone in the 500 level and have been there in the same seats from Day 1. But had mixed feelings about this loss since we cannot blame Capers.
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I was in 634 and from where I sat the whole team stunk. 14 rushing yards for a whole half!?

To top it off I was sitting with a bunch of eagle fans and if the guy in front of me stood up one more time to sing fly eagles fly and spread out his arms like he was an eagle I was going to thump him in the ear.
 
Weren't we supposed to have a good DL this year? What the hell happened out there today! And it's not like it's Mario Williams that didn't play well either. That whole entire unit got thrashed today. VERY VERY VERY dissappointed with them. Eagles Oline just dominated them.
 
Richard Smith, I thought he said they were gonna be aggressive and take chances. I didn't see that many blitz packages and considering how great:rolleyes: our DL was I was surprised at this. Also I don't think I saw any 3-4 fronts. Nope I don't think I saw it even once. Another thing is I don't know when he called contain or anything, so my thing is why didn't our ends ever get after McNabb. I mean overall I gotta say Smith made alot of rookie DC mistakes and he needs to work on that. I wish he would go through a stretch where he just told the line to pin their ears back and get after it so we could know if it was the play calling or the play on the field.
 
We just lost to the better team. Are we blinded to the point to feel that other teams should just lose to us because: Kubiak is the new head coach, our front office had the "nads" to draft Mario instead of Reggie to make our team better, better coordinators, and most importantly a 3-1 PRESEASON record?
 
I blame the Philadeplia Eagles for the loss. If it wasn't for the whipping up on us before the end of half time and in the second half we surely would have won.
 
Richard Smith...................Coaching.

What did we see during the pre season..........we saw blitzing of all kinds, we saw DBs breaking on balls we saw guys running around having fun.

What I saw tonight was soft zone coverage, even more so on obvious passing downs I thought Dom and Vangio broke in and started calling plays.
 
We win as a team, and we lose as a team. It's as simple as that. Everyone could have played better, even those that did fairly well.
 
I think it'd be unfair to blame any 1 area.

Carr looked Good...but with some mistakes that a 5th year guy shouldn't make.

Running game stunk. 1/2 due to our poor O-line execution (blown packages)...and 1/2 due to a really strong J.Johnson plan & players.

Good seeing our WR's & TE's getting in the mix.
 
I went with the DL. They were the unit that was supposed to shine on defense and they accomplished little. They're the unit with 3 1st round draft choices in the past 3 years.

Secondary wasn't great, but I think they actually overachieved versus expectations. CC Brown blew a few coverages, but did anyone really think he should be playing FS? We've known since last year that we don't have a starting-caliber FS on this team. Lewis Sanders did OK, Dunta was decent, and I don't think anyone expected that INT from Jason Simmons.

Linebacker play was roughly around expectations. Ryans played well, the others a little less so, but again, we knew what we were getting there - a great rookie and a bunch of guys, and that's what we got.
 
Texans86 said:
We win as a team, and we lose as a team. It's as simple as that. Everyone could have played better, even those that did fairly well.
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Well said and I approve of this message!
:texflag:
 
I choose running game...things would have been a lot better I think. I think this proves my point of Dayne possible starting by the end of the year.
 
Eagles as well, they just outplayed us in the 2nd half. Their coaches had to make adjustments and they made them well.
 
bigTEXan8 said:
I choose running game...things would have been a lot better I think. I think this proves my point of Dayne possible starting by the end of the year.
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End of the year? After what I saw today, he will be starting when he get's that turf toe problem fixed..

I just don't understand the play calling though. We moved the ball with ease the first round. Then everything went ker-plunk. Carr was 4/4 in that drive. If it was working, why the heck was it changed?

And sorry to say it again, but what the heck was Mario Williams doing standing around on plays as they were happening? Did anyone else notice that? I want to hear from Kubs what happened...

It's not that I expected to really go in and blow Philly out, but with that first drive we had, you have to admit it got some hopes up. I jumped up and almost lost my shorts. And I don't move that fast anymore. Then came the 2nd and 3 rd series. We did nothing like we did in the first drive, I mean nothing. No long passes or anything. If it was working, why change till they, meaning the Eagles, could stop it?
 
I didn't vote because obviously it was the fans fault.

You didn't have enough faith and were complaining too much so the football Gods punished us all.

Thanks fans. Get bent.

:rolleyes:
 
Hey Home Bred. We missed you over at the Eagles MB today. You were talking a lot of ish there. You seem to be toned down today and more respectful. What happened? Oh yeah, today's game. This is only a taste of what the Eagles will do this year. Their offense is only getting started, and the D let them get away with too much.

Heckuva receiving game you have, though. But until the O line improves, it will be a looooooooooong season. Stay out of the EMB for a while, k?
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
I saw the same game as you did. I sit in the end zone in the 500 level and have been there in the same seats from Day 1. But had mixed feelings about this loss since we cannot blame Capers.
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Why can't we blame Caper and Casserly? Did they not develop the talent? Did they not do a bad job of drafting talent? Did they not trade away draft picks when we needed a lot of holes filled? Did they not do a bad job of signing free agents?

Today was the first day of a step in the right direction. This team is going to grow from this. And after our break our schedule get a little better, well it does end pretty easy.
 
the fact that anyone actually picked Carr for the reason we lost makes me laugh.. Carr and ryans were the only highlights of this game..
:brickwall
 
Cgold said:
the fact that anyone actually picked Carr for the reason we lost makes me laugh.. Carr and ryans were the only highlights of this game..
:brickwall
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My sentiments exactly, but you might want to give a little credit to the CBs. They did well, considering McNabb had a month to throw on every pass play.
 
We lost this game in the trenches, just like we lose EVERY game in the trenches. Very little has changed, except that Carr looks more confident while getting his head beat in, the running game is hiding in the locker room somewhere, and our no-sack-getting D-line is made up of a few different people.
 
i see what your saying about the corners jam, but i find it a little funny and a little annoying that ALMOST everyone has one hundred million excuses for everyone elses play EXCEPT CARR... and even in this case when has a good game, and just about the only bright spot today... people still try to bring him down.

dbs were not good so people say "well give em a break they had to cover the recievers forever.

mario williams has honestly done nothing through pre-season or game 1. he deflected a pass. "well its the preseason", "he was double teamed" yada yada yada...

OL-not good.. "davids fault, davids fault" "he held on to long. "he should of known then OL would fail him and audible out everytime and get the ball out in 0.5 secs flat to not get killed again"

and on and on...

If people can complain about tripping and going out of bounds one play and actually believe that causes a loss......wow.....

Anyone else on the field that doesnt do their job just gets a pass and people drop the blame on DC. Make excuses for mario, make excuse for the D, make excuses for the OL..... but lets look for anything possible to rip our QB about and continue to point blame at him.. cuz i already know its going to happen all year when we lose..just like sunday, when he was the best player on the field.. and the rest of the team will get all sorts of creative excuses why they dont have to do their own jobs :ok:
 
Texans86 said:
We win as a team, and we lose as a team. It's as simple as that. Everyone could have played better, even those that did fairly well.
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...so when 1 thing is 'broke' you fix the 'whole' team?
 
Cgold said:
i see what your saying about the corners jam, but i find it a little funny and a little annoying that ALMOST everyone has one hundred million excuses for everyone elses play EXCEPT CARR... and even in this case when has a good game, and just about the only bright spot today... people still try to bring him down.

dbs were not good so people say "well give em a break they had to cover the recievers forever.

mario williams has honestly done nothing through pre-season or game 1. he deflected a pass. "well its the preseason", "he was double teamed" yada yada yada...

OL-not good.. "davids fault, davids fault" "he held on to long. "he should of known then OL would fail him and audible out everytime and get the ball out in 0.5 secs flat to not get killed again"

and on and on...

If people can complain about tripping and going out of bounds one play and actually believe that causes a loss......wow.....

Anyone else on the field that doesnt do their job just gets a pass and people drop the blame on DC. Make excuses for mario, make excuse for the D, make excuses for the OL..... but lets look for anything possible to rip our QB about and continue to point blame at him.. cuz i already know its going to happen all year when we lose..just like sunday, when he was the best player on the field.. and the rest of the team will get all sorts of creative excuses why they dont have to do their own jobs :ok:
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Nice post Cgold. Well said and positive rep coming your way.
 
Seven teams with new HC played Sunday, including the Texans-3 of those teams won, 2 lost by a combined 5 pts against play off teams from last year, 1 lost by 13 pts and 1 lost by 14pts. Two other teams with new HC's play today. Kubiak-so far-has the distinction of coaching the team with the widest losing margin of all the newly HC teams. And, the margin of defeat could have been worse if the Eagles wanted to score on their final drive instead of taking 9+ minutes off the clock to end the game.

IMO, we were not 'prepared' for this game, nor did we make 'ANY' effective adjustments during the game. Our play only got 'worse' as the game went on, while the Eagles got better-pure and simple, from the defense to the offense to the special teams, we were 'out' coached....:wild:


...sorry, I forgot about the Packers who got beat 26-0...we are only 2nd worse so far
 
PowerfulDragon said:
We were also the only team to go 2 and 14 last season...
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...and we were playing a team that was 6-10, same as the Browns who the 3-13 Saints beat...guess I'm missing your point--what do last years records have to do with being 'poorly' coached in a game? I'm saying Kubiak can do a better job--are you saying this is the best he can do because we were 2-14 last year?
 
I blame the Eagles.

Look, I'm disappointed too. I'm disappointed because this team is showing signs of life again which causes me to hope. However, the reality hasn't changed. This coaching staff has instituted entirely new schemes on both sides of the ball. We started 5 rookies and most of the team is new or playing a new position. It's just going to take a little time.

Remember Miami's season last year?... I think that's the kind of season we're in for this year.
 
tsip said:
...and we were playing a team that was 6-10, same as the Browns who the 3-13 Saints beat...guess I'm missing your point--what do last years records have to do with being 'poorly' coached in a game? I'm saying Kubiak can do a better job--are you saying this is the best he can do because we were 2-14 last year?
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I agree with you. The Browns are the AFC equivalent to the Eagles....

Their QBs are almost identical....... who started QB for the browns anyway??

Their Defense is about the same........ ProBowlers at 8 of 11 positions.

Shoot, we're lucky we have 16 weeks to prepare, and watch film on that Cleveland Brown team.

They're going to be tough, just like they've been for the last 12 years.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
Richard Smith, I thought he said they were gonna be aggressive and take chances. I didn't see that many blitz packages and considering how great:rolleyes: our DL was I was surprised at this. Also I don't think I saw any 3-4 fronts. Nope I don't think I saw it even once. Another thing is I don't know when he called contain or anything, so my thing is why didn't our ends ever get after McNabb. I mean overall I gotta say Smith made alot of rookie DC mistakes and he needs to work on that. I wish he would go through a stretch where he just told the line to pin their ears back and get after it so we could know if it was the play calling or the play on the field.
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EXACTLY!
The last 57 seconds prior to the HALF showed us this… we had the lead and gave it up do to the “BEND but DON’T BREAK” <- CRAP! I do have hopes and may Mr. Smith learn from this and like I know Coach Kubiak will.

GREAT JOB "David Carr and DeMeco Ryans" !!!

GO TEXANS and Hold your Heads High! :redtowel:
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree with you. The Browns are the AFC equivalent to the Eagles....

Their QBs are almost identical....... who started QB for the browns anyway??

Their Defense is about the same........ ProBowlers at 8 of 11 positions.

Shoot, we're lucky we have 16 weeks to prepare, and watch film on that Cleveland Brown team.

They're going to be tough, just like they've been for the last 12 years.
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...sorry, you missed the point of my post. IMO, last years records do not have a 'bearing' on this years play. Both the Browns and Eagles were 6-10 last year--so what--Saints won 1 more game than us, big deal. Texan fans thought the Bills were SB contenders last year--NOTTTT.

My post was saying that our 2-14 record of '05 should not be an excuse to 'play' poorly this year. Obviously, I believe we could have/should have played better Sunday. I guess you are saying that its OK to play poorly (1) based on last years record or --well,actually, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say--kinda like where you do or don't stand on Carr==maybe it's a 'day of the week' thing for you!!??:confused:
 
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