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Houston's Tank Dell

Yes, Holliday was listed as a RB, but he didn't really factor much into the offense. He was purely drafted as a return specialist.

Dell is a weapon on offense, back-to-back 1,300+ yard seasons, is a TD scoring machine with 29 the last 2 seasons, and can play the return game.
 
Toro Bravo said:
All he does is make plays and bring excitement. I know most Texans fans aren't accustomed to that.

I will say that I don't agree with all of the draft capital Nick is giving up to move up in this draft, but he sure is going to more butts in the seats.
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Which is what the McNair's are all about.
 
dream_team said:
Never watched Tank play, but I get Trindon Holliday vibes from everything I'm hearing. Tell me why he's better than Holliday.
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Trindon Holliday was a special team return specialist and was rarely in on offense. Tank is a sure handed WR who is not limited by routes while also being a pretty good returner. The similarities between the two is size and Tank is probably 3 inches taller.
 
TheRealJoker said:
I had him going 73 to us in my final mock draft:

The Texans have shown tons of interest in Tank Dell. They visited with him at the combine, pro day, local prospect day and had a top 30 visit. He doesn’t fit the typical mold of a Shanahan WR. You aren’t going to ask him to run block like Robert Woods and Noah Brown. But he is a weapon that is a threat to score anytime he touches the ball. I see the Texans manufacturing touches for him to provide a spark for this offense. He will also be the primary KR/PR and Frank Ross will pound the table for him to become one of the best return men in the league.
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I had him, Juice and Anderson in a lot of my PFF mocks.
 
dream_team said:
Never watched Tank play, but I get Trindon Holliday vibes from everything I'm hearing. Tell me why he's better than Holliday.
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Trindon Holiday was another example of an offensive weapon the Texans wasted. Should have got more out of a guy like that. He’s an X-Factor, a wrinkle at the very least keeps defenses guessing.
 
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Trindon Holiday was another example of an offensive weapon the Texans wasted. Should have got more out of a guy like that. He’s an X-Factor, a wrinkle at the very least keeps defenses guessing.
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Unfortunately, he ended up on the IR prior to his 2010 season with a severely fractured thumb sustained the beginning of the preseason. He never looked good in preseason and was very inconsistent with his hands in his limited show in 2011. In 2021, after fumbling 6 times (a trait he continued to show the rest of his short career) and the Texans desparately needing a space for their depleted defense, he was released.

A big contrast is that in college, Holliday was mostly used as a returned and had limited experience at WR vs Tank who was ultra productive as a WR in his last 2 years. The Texans didn't really use him as a WR for a reason.............his next 3 teams essentially used him for return purposes only.........even so in limited capacity because of his questionable hands.
 
Dell is such a smooth route runner. I can see him running Cooper Kupp’s “ocho route” near the endzone and being pretty much unguardable one on one (like Kupp).

theramswire.usatoday.com

Cooper Kupp reveals the origination of his nasty 'ocho' route

Cooper Kupp is one of the five best route runners in the NFL. It’s what makes him a special receiver because by no means is he the biggest or fastest at his position. He’s expanded his route tree over the years, too. Back in 2021, he showed off a new route against the…
theramswire.usatoday.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442853850071842826
 
dream_team said:
Never watched Tank play, but I get Trindon Holliday vibes from everything I'm hearing. Tell me why he's better than Holliday.
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Holiday couldn’t stop and start and change direction like Tank can, wasn’t as quick with those first steps but probably was flat out faster after he got rolling though
 
dream_team said:
Never watched Tank play, but I get Trindon Holliday vibes from everything I'm hearing. Tell me why he's better than Holliday.
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Totally different type players. Holliday wasn't very big, but was fast. Tank isn't very big, so that is similar. Speed, probably Tank by a bit. Holliday played or tried to like a typical WR. He also saw a few snaps at RB now and then. Tank is a legit WR. However, the difference is Tank runs with Barry Sanders type moves. Watch some film and he is breaking DBs ankles in pretty much every game. And even being smaller, he creates separation and can make very good catches. He has very good hands and route running ability.

Here is a good article and video

 
I think I read that when Tank played against Sauce he caught 9 passes for 159 yards and a touchdown in 2021. That seems like a fairly good production.
 
edo783 said:
I think I read that when Tank played against Sauce he caught 9 passes for 159 yards and a touchdown in 2021. That seems like a fairly good production.
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Sauce was not on Dell.
I don't see his jersey number where Tank caught the ball.
But yes, Tank Dell did have a pretty good game.
 
SnakeEyes said:
Watch some film on him and get back to us. This kid is not huge, but has great hands and is like a water bug with the ball. Good luck catching him.
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Saw him plenty. Like I said, I hope he succeeds, but you don’t draft a guy in the 3rd round on a team devoid of talent all over the place to return kicks and play “some” slot. Metchie will be the primary slot receiver I imagine. I know he’s a UH guy and that get the majority of guys in here amped up for some reason, but he’s not gonna translate well to the NFL in my opinion. I hope I eat those words, but I ain’t running out to buy no gravy.
 
JWTexans said:
Saw him plenty. Like I said, I hope he succeeds, but you don’t draft a guy in the 3rd round on a team devoid of talent all over the place to return kicks and play “some” slot. Metchie will be the primary slot receiver I imagine. I know he’s a UH guy and that get the majority of guys in here amped up for some reason, but he’s not gonna translate well to the NFL in my opinion. I hope I eat those words, but I ain’t running out to buy no gravy.
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He is a weapon. He might return kicks and punts. But, on 4 wide or 5 toss him in as a WR. He will produce, seeing as long as he makes the catch, not many are going to have a good angle on him. He can also be used in certain ways on any down. Line him up for a screen from the slot or out wide as an outside WR. No matter where you put him he is dangerous to the other teams DBs. He can even be a great decoy on 3 wide sets. Teams have to be aware of the speed and agility. Likely pulling coverage his direction and helping go from a DB playing zone with S help on a WR to them having to play man with the S known he can strike fast having to follow him. Thus, the CB is left to play the WR 1 v 1. Is that an amazing situation, not really, however it no question is going to make it easier for the other WR when the over the top help has to go with Tank. A few teams over the years have had WRs they call "offense weapons" seeing you have to play them otherwise they will burn you. He had 2 player comps according to Lindys: Richie James (Giants) and Cooper Kupp (due to his separation ability Rams)
 
610 is playing some very good information on Tank right now. If you can listen or tune in at the 330-345 time online, you will be very impressed
 
TheRealJoker said:
Dell is such a smooth route runner. I can see him running Cooper Kupp’s “ocho route” near the endzone and being pretty much unguardable one on one (like Kupp).

theramswire.usatoday.com

Cooper Kupp reveals the origination of his nasty 'ocho' route

Cooper Kupp is one of the five best route runners in the NFL. It’s what makes him a special receiver because by no means is he the biggest or fastest at his position. He’s expanded his route tree over the years, too. Back in 2021, he showed off a new route against the…
theramswire.usatoday.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442853850071842826
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1643287819501142019
 
Everyone dishing Young for size this tank in miniature by comparison. Do worry about him staying active. At point of contact, he lowers or turns his head instead of engaging to react & counter to protect himself. Better served outside the hashes & deep turn & go’s. Really don’t want to see him going over the middle like he did in College.
 
beerlover said:
Everyone dishing Young for size this tank in miniature by comparison. Do worry about him staying active. At point of contact, he lowers or turns his head instead of engaging to react & counter to protect himself. Better served outside the hashes & deep turn & go’s. Really don’t want to see him going over the middle like he did in College.
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We've got history of smaller WRs & CBs playing in the NFL. It's not the same issue.

QBs get hit often by big guys, they get hit often by multiple big guys at the same time. That's a lot to ask for a skinny dude.
 
thunderkyss said:
We've got history of smaller WRs & CBs playing in the NFL. It's not the same issue.

QBs get hit often by big guys, they get hit often by multiple big guys at the same time. That's a lot to ask for a skinny dude.
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Looking at size comps:

Marquise Brown: 5’9 3/8 166 lbs

Tank Dell: 5’8” 3/8 165 lbs

Brown has four seasons and played 16 games two seasons, then one season 14 games and one with 12 games. Brown’s role has been starting WR since he came into the league as a first round pick. In terms of injury history, I see nothing significant relative to the average NFL starting WR. @CloakNNNdagger can correct me of course. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is having the ability to protect yourself. It doesn’t matter how big you are if you don’t find a way to limit contact to protect your body.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Looking at size comps:

Marquise Brown: 5’9 3/8 166 lbs

Tank Dell: 5’8” 3/8 165 lbs

Brown has four seasons and played 16 games two seasons, then one season 14 games and one with 12 games. Brown’s role has been starting WR since he came into the league as a first round pick. In terms of injury history, I see nothing significant relative to the average NFL starting WR. @CloakNNNdagger can correct me of course. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is having the ability to protect yourself. It doesn’t matter how big you are if you don’t find a way to limit contact to protect your body.
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The most referred to analysis of weight related to injuries..........included by position, is that done by Football Outsiders below. There are so many flaws and unexplained contradictions in this "study," it would take too long for me to go thru them. Just a sample would be there is no control such as for how players are used and what system they play in. Types of LBs, as different their positions may be, are all dumped in the same pile. This is strictly an "observational study." But also let's look at the weight chart in which they try to show that certain positions will see more injuries at higher weight. How many 240-250 lb QBs do you find...........or 240-50 lb WRs?

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UH didn't have the receiver depth they usually have in 2021 and with everybody in the stadium knowing they were going to Tank he was still getting numbers. This season the WR group was much better and it was still the same put up insane numbers. I think one thing people are forgetting is he is a pretty good punt returner and he only did it one year, because UH had All American PR/KR Marcus Jones in 2021.
 
This morning on 97.5 they said he played this past season at 158 lbs and didn't miss any games. I think he came out of one game for a couple plays because this DB did some dirty **** and twisted his ankle after he was tackled.
 
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