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Week 1 Vs. Philadelphia

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Phiilyphan06

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Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.
 
From what I can gather watchout for the SLANT!!!! Texans 24 Eagles 10
 
Well none of us know what the Texans will look like with the new coaches. We have an offensive minded coach, but we haven't played an preseason games yet so it's hard to determine strengths and weaknesses right now. But we're all positive about everything. The Texans are gonna win though.
 
You might tell McNabb to watch out because we have #90 :hunter: McNabb to knock him out. We will have a lot of rollouts and a lot more running this year with actually positive yardage.
 
AJExplosion80 said:
You might tell McNabb to watch out because we have #90 :hunter: McNabb to knock him out. We will have a lot of rollouts and a lot more running this year with actually positive yardage.
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Well Westbrook could lighten the load for Mcnabb, and we got Wintston Justice and Max gean-gilles in the draft. Hes a beat.
 
Phiilyphan06 said:
What is this, smack talk?
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You have to forgive some of us, we're very excited about this year, especially our pass rush. You mentioned Max gean-gilles is he already working with your first team?
 
Should be a close game, IMO. Lots of question marks for both teams. Can the Eagles anemic offense get the ball rolling now with a healthy McNabb and more importantly without T.O.? What is the Texans defense going to look like under the new scheme and coaching regime? I don't think it will be very high scoring, as neither team has an established power house offense, and I think the game will come down to which opportunistic defense takes advantage of the opposing offenses mistakes.....the game will probably be decided by crucial turnovers.

As much as we homers would like to say our offense will instantly bear a striking resemblance to Denver, it's much more likely that they'll show flashes of becoming a dynamic offense, but be mired with mistakes early in the season. Same goes for the defense, the Texans are a completely new team this year. No idea how it's gonna look on the field at this point, but I'm gonna postulate that the Texans are going to play hard for Kubiak, and that right there is enough to keep us competitive in most games.
 
Brandon420tx said:
You have to forgive some of us, we're very excited about this year, especially our pass rush. You mentioned Max gean-gilles is he already working with your first team?
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I can understand that, we had a bad year as well so you have to be hungry.

Gilles is battling todd herremans for the starting spot, and otdd is moving from lt to lg, so Max looks favored right now.
 
blockhead83 said:
Should be a close game, IMO. Lots of question marks for both teams. Can the Eagles anemic offense get the ball rolling now with a healthy McNabb and more importantly without T.O.? What is the Texans defense going to look like under the new scheme and coaching regime? I don't think it will be very high scoring, as neither team has an established power house offense, and I think the game will come down to which opportunistic defense takes advantage of the opposing offenses mistakes.....the game will probably be decided by crucial turnovers.

As much as we homers would like to say our offense will instantly bear a striking resemblance to Denver, it's much more likely that they'll show flashes of becoming a dynamic offense, but be mired with mistakes early in the season. Same goes for the defense, the Texans are a completely new team this year. No idea how it's gonna look on the field at this point, but I'm gonna postulate that the Texans are going to play hard for Kubiak, and that right there is enough to keep us competitive in most games.
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This is the best post i've seen so far. Thank you. Thats was very refreshing.
 
Phiilyphan06 said:
Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.
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Oh PP. Why put yourself through the torment of thinking about the first game of the year. If I were you I would go ahead and look forward to week 2.

Drob is going to hammer Westbrook and even Pbuc can cover Gaffney!
 
Phiilyphan06 said:
Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.[/QUOTE]

Well if you are able to handle them, watch out for Walter and Putzier.:redtowel:
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I see Philly coming into Reliant Stadium the way we went into Ralph Wilson Stadium (Or whatever the name of the Bills' stadium is).

Point is this: The Eagles are coming into a literal beehive of intensity similar to what we went into in our first game last year vs. the Bills. I predicted, weeks in advance, that we'd get bombed by the Bills...and did we ever!

I see an Eagles team that is smartly coached by Andy Reid. Problem is that they are a little "in search of themselves" after the mess with T.O. and its residual effects--McNabb has to truly re-capture his leadership role, and this year's Texans are not in any way the same old team that was America's punchline last year, and so I see McNabb getting in trouble early.

Gaffney is for you what Phillip Buchanon was for us: He's a guy that has a recognizable name, and there's not much game to either one of them. We got screwed when we got Buchanon, and you guys are not going to be happy with Gaffney...he'll make some grabs, but he'll never be the visionary threat or talent that he ought to be. He was born to be a 4th WR on a 3 WR team. You can thank several years of un-coaching by Dom Capers for that one.

I am glad you no longer have T.O., because that guy ruined your team in a hurry. In addition, the timeframe for NFL teams to be successful for mutliple years has, in my opinion, passed by the Eagles. I think this is the year that the team declines more...and the hooks come out for Andy Reid. Will het get the same respect that Bill Cowher got when Cowher's teams began to slide a little? I don't know. I like Reid as a coach, but the talent level in Philly, as far as I can see it when I watch them, is beginning to fade a little. No Hugh Douglas. No T.O. A Westbrook who was running well early last year, and then all of a sudden the Eagles went away from running the ball. And McNabb who says he's shaken off T.O. but yet it's STILL a topic that he speaks of today.

It ain't looking good for week 1 for the Eagles. We got hammered last year when we went into a hornets' nest...and I fear that it'll be a similar outcome for your team when they come to Reliant.

This is no homer talk going on. And it isn't smacj talk. I just think this is NOT the same Texans team, not by a country mile.

Good luck to your guys.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Phiilyphan06 said:
Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.[/QUOTE]

Well if you are able to handle them, watch out for Walter and Putzier.:redtowel:
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We had a problem with good tight ends last year, but I really think the Eagles will re-emerge as a dominant "D" in our conference this year.
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Phiilyphan06 said:
Gilles is battling todd herremans for the starting spot, and otdd is moving from lt to lg, so Max looks favored right now.
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I'm more interested in another OLineman you guys got who some think was
one of the steals of the Draft - Winston Justice ? How's he progressing and
did they decide to put him at RT or LT ?
 
EF55 said:
HOU-TEX said:
We had a problem with good tight ends last year, but I really think the Eagles will re-emerge as a dominant "D" in our conference this year.
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Well, at least you said your conference. That excludes the Texans, so I guess we'll be able to run up the points.:drool:
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HOU-TEX said:
EF55 said:
Well, at least you said your conference. That excludes the Texans, so I guess we'll be able to run up the points.:drool:
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I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. Our division alone will have some pretty stout defenses this year.
Hey who knows what will happen opening day.
I follow the Texans as well so I'm excited for them this season just not opening day.
As we get closer to the game I'm sure we'll talk some more in terms of comparing the two teams. This notion that our recievers are bad is not exactly an issue really though at least between these two teams.
True enough they're not proven but even if they are just average nothing special kind of receivers:

#5 + any recievers + mediocre corners = great passing game
#5 + any recievers + good corners = ok to good passing game

Here's why...

McNabb has always had (allegedly) less than desirable targets before TO and he went to the Pro bowl 4 times and 3 NFC championship games then once again with TO. He runs a pass oriented offense for crying out loud. It's by committee usually and he'll complete passes to over 10 different players quite frequently during a game. There are no big guys, although Reggie Brown may turn out to be better than average.

He holds the NFL record as the only QB to throw 30 or more td's while having single degit interceptions in a season. Although he did that with TO in the line up for most of the season. And he has I beleive the record for consecutive completions. By the way TO never even played a complete season in Philadelphia. Yet of TO's 101 career TD's he caught 20 of them from McNabb. Thats 20% in that short time frame! McNabb made TO better just as much or more than TO made McNabb better. This will all become obvious this year. When TO played with Garcia who was an all pro QB at the time, they never went to an NFCCG, they never set any records, and the Eagles spanked their arse when they played each other. TO was good and will continue to be good but he will never have someone like Dmac tossing to him again.
I'm telling you the difference maker is McNabb, always has been and he is reportedly in the best shape of his life right now, gnawing at the bit to get out there and rebutt all the nay sayers. If you don't think you have to worry about McNabbs passing game, you have bought TO's book
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nunusguy said:
I'm more interested in another OLineman you guys got who some think was
one of the steals of the Draft - Winston Justice ? How's he progressing and
did they decide to put him at RT or LT ?
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Justice is up and down. Looks all world on one play, next beaten badly. Is being taught by D. Howard, who is having a wonderful camp. I look for Justice to get playing time during the season and replace Thomas next year. The talent is there. Learing the pro game is the next part.
Using Justice at LT only. He received a lot of work early with the first team as Thomas takes blood thinners and they take no chances when he comes off them at the start of camp. Thomas has a history of blood clots and back problems. They take it easy with him early.
Justice should play a lot Sunday
Side note. Jean- Gilles is running third team. Herremans is the starting guard and will remain so. J-G came into mini camp out of shape. TC was better, but has much to learn before he ever hits the field. Pre season J-G will get work behind a guard named Scott Young, who has all ready been in two fights in the first week of camp.
 
Well, we also have our own massive answer to Jiles...Charles Spencer. Spencer has been running with our first team as well, but he is in much better shape and will be the better pro I think. Spence is a hoss though, tipping the scales at last official report at 337 I believe.

We also have an answer to your Winston...Eric Winston. Eric Winston also played for one of the top college programs, and prior to his injury, he was a top 10 lock and rated higher than your Winston who was off the team and ahead of Fergueson. He is fighting for a spot, but he will be a back up this year most likely.

Also, we happened to aquire DeMeco Ryans. He has impressed the coaches with how fast he is learning the playbook and reacting to the ball. He is actually my pick for DROY over Mario.

Speaking of Mario, he has absolutely dominated everyone and everything. He is a beast in every sense. He will require a double-team from your aging line. Our entire D-line has been revamped. Anthoney Weaver, our top FA signing, has moved inside to DT and is excelling according to all reports and has all but secured a starting spot. Our front four is going to put pressure on McNabb to be on top of this game.

I wouldn't count on your recievers at this point just yet. Pinkston is a starter from the reports I read from you camp, and that is never a great sign. Gaff will be a good 3rd option, but don't expect anything more from him. He has average speed and rarely finds the hole in the zone. Your offense is going to need to rely on Westbrook more than it will.
 
Like some of yall are saying, watch out on our D-Line its going to be good. Eric Moulds should have a good game.
 
Its Going To Be A 24-21 game won by the Texans, The Texans will come back from a 17-21 defelct inside to 2 minute warning, this will show our true character
 
Phiilyphan06 said:
Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.
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35 Texans
17 Eagles

Sorry it is our turn now.:cool:
 
Of course we predict that we're going to win. I'm sure if I went over to one of your boards and asked about our game they would say that you guys are going to win. Its the nature of fans. If we didn't feel we had a shot at winning every game before the season starts we wouldn't be texans fans :texflag:
 
I said this time and time again, but I am so excited to see our new offense going up against a "live" defense such as Phyllies'. We are going to find out what Carr is made of right away. Of course I predict a Texans win. But it's going to be a great test to really see what we're made of on both sides of the ball. If you guys can get your defense back on track (especially with a healthy Javon Kearse), I think you guys can really get back into the running in your competitive division.

People are not giving the Eagles enough credit IMO. McNabb did it w/o TO before. And with Gaffney, I do think your WRs will be at least as good as what you guys had before TO. Why don't you guys bring back Mitchell? He's definitely not as great as he says he is but he would stilly be a starter for you guys wouldn't he? Or is he really than annoying? :) Anyway, I could easily see you guys making a bid for a wildcard over there.

By the way, how is Bunkley? I've heard great things about him during the draft, but how has his pro transition been? In reference to Travis Johnson, another FSU tackle, I hope you got a much better deal than we did. :-P
 
TexanFan881 said:
Of course we predict that we're going to win. I'm sure if I went over to one of your boards and asked about our game they would say that you guys are going to win. Its the nature of fans. If we didn't feel we had a shot at winning every game before the season starts we wouldn't be texans fans :texflag:
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Very True! The nature of fanhood is to be a homer somewhat in as much as we look at our situation in a glass half full mentality just as you do.
 
phan1 said:
I said this time and time again, but I am so excited to see our new offense going up against a "live" defense such as Phyllies'. We are going to find out what Carr is made of right away. Of course I predict a Texans win. But it's going to be a great test to really see what we're made of on both sides of the ball. If you guys can get your defense back on track (especially with a healthy Javon Kearse), I think you guys can really get back into the running in your competitive division.

People are not giving the Eagles enough credit IMO. McNabb did it w/o TO before. And with Gaffney, I do think your WRs will be at least as good as what you guys had before TO. Why don't you guys bring back Mitchell? He's definitely not as great as he says he is but he would stilly be a starter for you guys wouldn't he? Or is he really than annoying? :) Anyway, I could easily see you guys making a bid for a wildcard over there.

By the way, how is Bunkley? I've heard great things about him during the draft, but how has his pro transition been? In reference to Travis Johnson, another FSU tackle, I hope you got a much better deal than we did. :-P
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Freddie Mitchell could have wrote his ticket after the famed 4th and 26th but he talked his way out of town. He actually did his job as a # 3 reciever but was always considered a bust because he was a first round pick. He is embarassing to an organization, nobody will touch him. He is not a bad receiver though IMO. Just not the reciever he claims to be.

Bunkley just signed on friday and is way behind the curve on learning the defense. It could be hard for him to crack into the line up as a starter as others are having great camps at DT. I would imagine he'll be rotated in and out but won't actually be a starter until the second half of the season.
 
Phiilyphan06 said:
Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.
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Well, without TO, the Iggles have had a tendency to start slow and turn it up at the end of the season. But, I think it's going to take some time for the Texans' changes to start to gel, so you're catching us at the right time if you can take advantage of it.

I think your receiving corp is bad and I don't expect much out of Westbrook as a runner. I think our defense is going to surprise you.

On the other side of the ball, you've got a strong d-line and our o-line is still a question mark. Even if Domanick isn't able to come back full strength, we've got some kids at RB that might surprise you. Carr should perform better in this offense. He's going to have more options and they're going to move the pocket more to try to offset the o-line questions. He will be used more as a runner than he has been in the past (even though he has had good running numbers the past few years) and he's basically got 2 #1 receivers.

I expect us to lose this game but I expect it to be close. Andy Reid and Johnson are great coaches who find ways to win games like this.

Good luck and I hope I'm wrong and you lose. :)
 
Eagles are still pretty good in my opinion.

They still have a pretty good dline that will test our Oline immediately and we will know how good our oline is. Kearse, Patterson, Walker, Darren Howard and rookie Bunkley is a pretty good lineup.

They always had LB by commitee and often time the system make there LB's look better so there still solid there.

Sheppard and Sheldon Brown is a great tandem that will test Johnson and Moulds with pro bowl Dawkins and Lewis ready to make some noise.

I expect this game to be a low scoring game. i predict 17-13. Texans win.
 
Still really early. First, I don't think Philly is as bad as everyone makes out.You loose thirteen guys durring a season, including your # 1 WR and QB, I don't care who you are you're going to struggle. The game will simply come down to whether we have the tallent to cover Westbrook & L. J. Smith or not. And wether Andy Reid's pledge to run the ball more in '06 is real or just smoke screen coach speak. If Philly establishes the run early, I think the Texans have a pretty rough time beating the Eagles. If they come out chunking the ball, they're playing into Richard Smith's hands. The d line has vastly improved. We're lossing DB's like crazy early in camp. Reid will be tempted to throw against them. If he does, the Texan's have an excellent chance in upsetting them.

Really liked the Eagles draft. Infusion of tallent along the o-line is always prudent. The difference between the two clubs is our two might be forced to go to war ealier than we would like. The Eagles might have the luxuary of working Jean-Gilles and Justice in. Spencer looks to be the real deal. But he is just a rookie. The roll outs will help. But in the end..he's a rookie. Lot of us our holding our breath that Wand comes around.

Got two clubs with weakened LB's and O-lines slugging it out. Difference is our first six are brutal. Philly game is a linch pin to our entire season. Where as, even though you play in a tougher conference, you gotta couple a "give me's" the first six. How that will all translate out we'll see. Veteran club, I give the edge to Philly. They over look us, read last years debacle as what they'll get opening day, the Texan's have a chance.
 
Being the first game of the season I would say this is the best chance the Texans have to win against Philly. I think this game is going to come down to who makes the most mistakes. Neither offense is likely to come out of the gate smoothly so i think itll come down to the texans DL either forcing McNabb to make costly mistakes, or Carr getting pressuerd, sacked or making poor reads. If we pressure McNabb and Carr can have just a decent game, I say Texans win 20-17
 
looking forward to the game against the Eagles. I think it will be a close one w/ the Texans getting the W.

Eagles - 20
Texans - 27
 
The difference in this game will be the Texans ability to 1) protect Carr (big surprise) because the Eagles will be bringing everything but the kitchen sink, and 2) hand-in-hand development of a game plan that will make the Eagles pay for their aggressive behavior on defense, i.e., getting the RBs into the second tier and effective use of TE's to keep the Eagles front seven from simply pinning their ears back. Kalu should be able to help with the game plan.
 
Phiilyphan06 said:
Im an Eagles fan, so I thought I'd get a perspective from the opponet.

How do you think this game will turn out?

My only concerns, are that Davis might re-submerge, and that our corners can't handle moulds and Johnson.
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I think Texans will win, but this is based on fact that Philedelphia didn't make very many offseason acquistions in a tough division. You have a solid core of WRs but we have a decent secondary, they are young but our pass rush will help them get better.

McNabb is still a great QB, but is having a lot of dings and nicks which can wear a QB down. Our offensive line is improved, our offensive scheme and zone blocking will give Carr time to make plays. We will harass your QB and our rotation of DL will kepp them fresh in 4th quasrter a problem we had last season

A close hard fought game with Texans edging Eagles for a win...good luck in 2006 Beat Dallas Cowgirls!!!
 
Philly is looking good and da Raiders BAD in the 1st series for each team
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
this aint capers system. Do that against a passing offense who like to use the TE and your toast!
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Visions of the Steelers TE Green running for miles in the 90's comes to mind.
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
this aint capers system.
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That's why I like this message board. The things you can learn...

Do that against a passing offense who like to use the TE and your toast
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The Texans offense - just like the Broncos - will be predicated on run first, pass second. The only way that TE or anyone else can get the ball in his hands is if the QB has time to deliver. You can do that in one of three ways: move the QB around, run short quick routes, and protect protect protect. It also helps if the defense is forced to respect the run.

The key against the Eagles will be protecting the QB because they don't give a rats arse that we have the Denver playbook. We still have to prove we can implement it and I have a feeling they are going to force the issue.
 
Just watched the 1st half of the HOF game and I know it the first pre-season game DM looked good his first drive only one that he played tonight. Westbrook looked REALY good IMO.The more I watched, da raiders just looked BAD. Our O-line better be in form come phily because their D-line looked good to, got to Brooks more than once and was in the backfield the first two or three series. We'll know more about our team next week than I'll make my Homer guess on who will win the first game of the season.
 
I have to admit that the Eagles running attack did look good in the HOF game. Westbrook was hitting the holes hard and was getting good yards after intitial contact. It will be nice to see how our d line holds up against the run. I am just overjoyed that we actually have a preseason game at the end of this week. This has been an extremely long off season.
 
The Eagles have an upper echelon O-line and IIRC, all of their starters are 330 + lbs. Meaning quite simply that a lot of the run stopping responsibilities are going to fall to our LBs and secondary. I can't wait to see our D-line in action this year, but the Eagles are going to be a difficult opening test. In passing plays though, the only difficulty will be keeping containment on McNabb; we can easily get the speed rush around the outside, and hopefully, we will get enough penetration up the middle to keep McNabb from stepping through.
 
Ok How many of you watched the Hall of Fame game. I watched Philly play to see what we're up against in 1st game of the season. I must admit, they look pretty impressive both 1st team Offence and Defense. I thought we had a great chance to beat them but now not as strongly. What is you opinion?
 
goodnews boy said:
Ok How many of you watched the Hall of Fame game. I watched Philly play to see what we're up against in 1st game of the season. I must admit, they look pretty impressive both 1st team Offence and Defense. I thought we had a great chance to beat them but now not as strongly. What is you opinion?
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You should wait to see us play before making that judgement, and it was just pre-season, and it WAS the raiders...:twocents:
 
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