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We MUST draft a QB with our 1st pick.

Here is again my 4rd Texan mock ... this has some luck added .

1 . Joe Thomas LT

2. Earl Everett OLB Florida

3. Trent Edwards QB Stanford

4. John Wendling S Wyoming
 
Russell is by far the greatest college quarterback in college football history. Russell is one of the biggest college football quarterbacks in terms of size. During his junior season, LSU listed Russell at 6'6" and 260 pounds. His size and weight make it difficult for pass rushers to tackle him. In addition, he has an extremely strong arm but average to below-average speed and scrambling ability. Because of his physical attributes, some people compare him as a quarterback to NFL star Daunte Culpepper.

If it says so on Wikipedia, it must be true.
 
If we draft a lesser QB prospect with the first pick the year after the best draft for QB's since 83 I think my head will explode.

Drafting a QB the year after we passed on Vince would cause riots in Houston.

Although no fault of Carr, I think its time for us to cut our loses and move on without Carr other wise Texans will have hard time putting people in stands.

if you want to take a qb over the likes of peterson or another playmaker you're out of your mind.

I don't want a QB in the first rd. period....

I want them to draft a QB and let them learn behind Rosenfels next year assuming he's the starter.

If you want a QB, get a free agency pickup, or stick with what you have until you finally have an offensive line that will permit a 7 step drop. Otherwise, it's a waste.
 
If you want a QB, get a free agency pickup, or stick with what you have until you finally have an offensive line that will permit a 7 step drop. Otherwise, it's a waste.

Good point. Might as well keep Carr then. I'd like to see his full potential w/a good line. Then again i question his leadership. Hell i don't care what they do as long as we can win.
 
I guess no one is aware of the fact that David did several seven step drops in the Oakland game for a -5 net passing yards....
 
If Troy Smith falls into the second, I don't see any reason not to take him. He's got that "IT" factor and all he does is win football games. Ohio State is unbeaten and Troy Smith can levitate.

I doubt he falls to us in the second, but if he does, get him with a quickness.

troy smith plays for ohio state, i bet there is at least 10 other qb's that would go undefeated on that team. i dont see why you think that dousche would be good in the nfl, he would have to scramble just to see downfield because he is so short. name me one qb with his build that has been successful in the nfl. the "it" factor more like the "bs" factor. its rediculous how many college qb's went undefeated or had a really good season, and did a bunch of nothing in the nfl. troy smith is the next slash (cordell stewart). he should just enter the draft as a wide reciever and save himself some time. if you want to get rid of carr for a qb like troy smith, well that just sounds like a bunch of stupid. adrian peterson hands down
 
troy smith plays for ohio state, i bet there is at least 10 other qb's that would go undefeated on that team.
so? what's that have to do with anything?
name me one qb with his build that has been successful in the nfl.
drew brees.
the "it" factor more like the "bs" factor. its rediculous how many college qb's went undefeated or had a really good season, and did a bunch of nothing in the nfl.
there's also plenty of QB's who went undefeated and had really good seasos in college AND did great in the NFL. :)
 
I say they're QBs. I don't think there should be question that Smith...and Young...are QBs. Not scramblers who can't throw to save their lives.
 
i think your definition of "scrambler" is off.

a scrambler is a QB who has the ability to scramble from pressure, and run if the opprotunity is there.

a running QB is a guy who runs first and foremost.
 
We don't see eye to eye on the definition, but this isn't english class...so let me rephrase that. Smith is more of a pocket passer than a runner.
 
...what's that got to do with anything? marino's a "scrambler" because he can escape pressure with his legs and toss the ball around while on the move.
 
If you want a QB, get a free agency pickup, or stick with what you have until you finally have an offensive line that will permit a 7 step drop. Otherwise, it's a waste.

I guess no one is aware of the fact that David did several seven step drops in the Oakland game for a -5 net passing yards....

What does successfully permitting a 7 step drop mean to you you?

And do you think those 7 step drops were successful in Oakland?

(If you want to play word games, trust me, I'm just as good playing that game as you are.)
 
okay, just make up your own definition of scrambler then. i personally think the word "chair" means "to open a jar of peanut butter." why not!
 
You post me a link to any major sports site that has Kolb in the top one hundred and I'll buy the day one pick on the guy. Till then this is Alice in Wonderland stuff we usually see from the Horns and Ag fans in the off season. I mean I'm glad you're not immune to it. But Who , other than the Texans will take this guy with a day one pick ? That should be you first clue. He's a nice college QB, He's improved his TDs to interceptions. He's a great prospect. Unless someone reaches, he's not a day one QB. . He posts a sub 4.9 forty at the combine...I'll be shocked. For obvious reasons, the QB in Kubiaks offense must be moblie. Can you name a Denver QB who wasn't ?
If Carr stays and Kolbs is avail in 4th would you pull that trigger? That is where I have him.
 
He'll go higher.

Show me one place that has Kolb in the top 100. Just one ? No HE WILL not. Unless someone really really reaches on him. Now with our history I'll grant you it is a true possiblity. If he's there day two and the coach wants him...I'll be on board. BUT Kolb guys.....what was one of the first cuts with this staff ? Give ya a hint he's running the Rams practice squad. Prety fair QB coming out of college. And why did they cut him ? You're setting yourseves up for heartbeark Kolb guys.
 
you're making such a bold prediction when the real fun hasn't even begun yet.

kolb has been invited to the senior bowl. that alone can make a player's stock skyrocket. then there's the combine. and individual workouts.

oh yeah, plus he has a bowl game against south carolina, too.
 
Im new to the this board. and i have to say that i am amazed at the stupidity of most of you Texan fans (Im a texan fan so dont get your undies in a bunch..im not hating)

First, drafting a QB in the first round is completely out of the question. Its not even an option if this franchise wants to suceed. Getting the next top pick QB is not what we need. We got David Carr without a Vetran QB for him to learn under and look what happen... The kid has nothing to offer a team besides a strong arm and bad choices in regard to pass selection... Every notice how he loves to underachieve... Those 5 yard dump off's arent going to cut it if you wan t to win. So, the texans will dump carr to either a trade (i doubt) or pick up a Free agent QB such as Plummer or huard. it wont be the kid from atlanta because that would require a trade for a pick and we would be stupid to give up an oppurtunity to pick up some of the top 10 drafties.
I cant tell you how sick it makes me to hear people want to pick up Brady Quinn...Yeah brilliant idea...Another Carr in with a bad hair cut. He hasnt done anything...ever. Tell me one thing he has accomplished????? He has never won a big game...He is the talent around him. You need a guy like Breeze who will make people better...not a QB that depends on the people around him. You IGNIT texan fans havent learned have you?

SECOND, passing up on Adrian peterson would be the second stupidest choice the Texans will ever make if they do indeed decide to pass him up. (if peterson is still their...which i think he will be). Their isnt another back like this kid in the draft...He can do what Earl did for us in the late 70's and eary 80's...We would win. Yes his style of play gets him hurt, but that largely has to do with the fact that the Oklahoma Offensive line isnt very good (and the Texans have gotten better on the O-line...)... Pass on peterson and i swear we will never win a damn thing..WHY you ask... Simple. The choices to get that electric player has to be made...The TEXAN's lack the big play guy. Andre Johnson cant do everything...Eric moulds is older, and is a good solid WR...but we need a Back to finish off the deal... That along with a VET. QB like Huard or Plummer(stop whinning about plummer...the kid will do better here...Kubiak can FIX plummer...he cant fix carr...Carr might as well be a ryan leaf as long as he is here....He needs to sit out and be a back up. He has never had the threat of losing his starting job....THATS WHY HE SUCKS)

THIRD, if peterson isnt avaliable...then you go with a Dwyane jarret or Mcfadden(who is rumored to come out...he is a Redshirt soph.)..if neither are thier then you go to the other backs...A BIG PLAY SKILL POSITION IS NEEDED...not a QB spot...Get that in a later round.

Fourth, you go with a QB in the later rounds...maybe 3rd or fourth...NOT TROY. he isnt worth a pick in the second. Maybe 3rd or 4th. Klob would be a good pic but not who i have in mind...i want someone with real potential...Like a DREW TATE. He is an excellent QB who can sit under a Plummer or Huard and learn and grow. He has the potential to be a Tom brady for the Texans....Their are a couple of Good QBS that Kubiak can grow into a GREAT Qb.
My list is kinda short:

drew tate
kevin kolb

these are really the only two i would even bother picking up. Other then that the QB position MUST be filled with a vetren to lead us to a winning season and build the program up from their...

But i have a feeling the texans will just mess this all up...

We COULD HAVE had vince young....We messed up. The saints pulled a Houston and got Bush so their forgiven...we on the other hand...the front office should shoot them selves.

But thats all over and done with...Time to move on and find away to minimize the Vincanity that WILL occur...Get peterson...its the only way to keep vince off the field along with payton..... Trust me...it would be great.


-Hum
 
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