OptimisticTexan
Hall of Fame
You stand on the highest mountain and yell with all your might, "Next Man Up" and hope like hell it holds water.
Really,We'd be worse. But we're not good even after these trades.
I just wanted this out there after today's game.Tunsil has been a positive, and Watson alive had to be our priority if we had any chance
this year. The negative of that trade will be abundantly clear the next 2 drafts. I hated the deal initially but I'm leaning toward worth it. Just quit with the Gd false starts already.
Seeing coutee drop off and knowing fuller would get hurt makes Stills worth it. We've already seen him play really well. I wouldn't call him dr jeckle and Mr hyde. I'd call him good at times and average at his worst. Stills was someone I thought of as a throw away in that trade. I was wrong - i like him.
I like Hyde and think he's better then Miller. He may not have the long speed to bump his ypc average but he grinds out tough yards Miller never could. I agree Duke isn't utilized correctly and if we dont start using him right it was a bad trade. I'm guessing he'll have a couple of huge plays this year to prove me wrong but I wont hold my breath.
The Clowney trade was an absolute disaster. I put it right up there with the oz trade. Mishandled, misplayed, and humiliating. We got a mid to late 3rd round pick and a couple of struggling jags for clowney. - it's not forgivable. To make matters worse we lost watt for the season. How's that for salt in our wound?
The Conley trade was forced by injury and it's to early to tell I think.
That said, we probably are middling. Not because of the trades ,but because of the injuries on defense and stupid game management.This offense has had great moments I've never seen before and I believe the trades played a big part in that.
Jmo ofcourse.
I really don't think the knee factored into it. Someone is going to pay him big money. Not us. We had been fielding offers since the draft. Missed out on the KC deal. & BO'b just rather move forward without him than sideways with him.I didn't like the Clowney trade either but I understand why it was made. They took a mid/late 3rd rather than risk Clowney blowing out his knee this yr and getting nothing for him.
I dont think he's going to get the $$$$ that he thinks he's going to get.I really don't think the knee factored into it. Someone is going to pay him big money. Not us. We had been fielding offers since the draft. Missed out on the KC deal. & BO'b just rather move forward without him than sideways with him.
Can you imagine the leverage he'd think he had with Jj out for the season?
Cool dude. Good football player. Gonna get a huge contract. Just not here. Wish him all the best & all that. But bye
AgreedI dont think he's going to get the $$$$ that he thinks he's going to get.
Mack/Donald type $$$$.
I agree that the trades are a contributing factor but we were 6-3 going into the bye last year without any of them.Really,
6-3 going into the bye would suggest otherwise.
Agreed, without your QB your nothing.I agree that the trades are a contributing factor but we were 6-3 going into the bye last year without any of them.
In my opinion the most important common denominator the last 2 years is Watson.
He could have had a probowl season, broke the sack record, broke the INT record this season, and any other wild accomplishment but we still could have franchised him again. This time his trade value would have been than what we got for him. Only leverage JDC had was when OB said he'd trade him after signing his tender.Can you imagine the leverage he'd think he had with Jj out for the season?
Looks like a low risk move.I wouldnt risk further injury for a wild card game, only an AFC Championship game or Super Bowl otherwise put him on ice til next year.
I'm a believer. Watching Watt on the sideline, makes me think he's a believer, too.Plus, with a worst-case scenario that he goes out and tears it again, he can have a relatively routine surgery and still be ready for 2020.
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J.J. Watt (pec) could return for playoffs or even sooner
Despite suffering a torn pectoral, J.J. Watt could return to the Texans for the playoffs or perhaps even sooner, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reports.www.nfl.com
I highly doubt this will happen. Still interesting...
I agree, but one can wish.I just hope he doesn’t rush it back, it’s not worth it. He still has a lot of great years left.
He might retire before next season.I wouldnt risk further injury for a wild card game, only an AFC Championship game or Super Bowl otherwise put him on ice til next year.