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Vince Young

Daunte Culpepper runs a lot and a lot of people have trouble tackling him. Probably because he is bigger than most LB's. But he is about 30 lbs bigger than Vince and he is out for the season because he took a big hit. He also has a howitzer for an arm which Vince does not.
 
tulexan said:
Daunte Culpepper runs a lot and a lot of people have trouble tackling him. Probably because he is bigger than most LB's. But he is about 30 lbs bigger than Vince and he is out for the season because he took a big hit. He also has a howitzer for an arm which Vince does not.
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Difference is that VY has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER taken a big hit. He is so light on his feet that he'll move is body in a way that will avoid him from taking a big hit.

On his arm: I found a clip and posted it in another thread. It was from 4 years ago in a High School all star game where he threw the ball 60+ yards in the air after a scramble to have it dropped by the WR. This no arm thing is really getting old. Now if you are saying that Culpepper has a stronger arm, I'll agree. He may have the strongest in the league. But to say VY doesnt have one isnt true.
 
Eh.. getting it down the field isnt really the measuring stick for a strong arm.. its about velocity and arch.

If ya watch the rose bowl again... Matt Lienart has a weak arm.. and its apparent because every time he tries to throw deep..the ball spends so much time in the air that the fact DBs for Texas are just waiting for it.
 
Grid said:
Eh.. getting it down the field isnt really the measuring stick for a strong arm.. its about velocity and arch.

If ya watch the rose bowl again... Matt Lienart has a weak arm.. and its apparent because every time he tries to throw deep..the ball spends so much time in the air that the fact DBs for Texas are just waiting for it.
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Depends on how you look at it. If you can throw the ball 60+ yards down the field then it's gonna be easier to zip the ball to the WR on a 10 yard slant route.
 
Fiddy said:
Difference is that VY has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER taken a big hit. He is so light on his feet that he'll move is body in a way that will avoid him from taking a big hit.
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If Michael Vick wasn't "light enough on his feet" to avoid taking a hit IN THE NFL, then there's no way that Vince will be.

C'mon people what's next? Vince for the messiah? :ok:

No potential pick is:

A) A Sure thing.
B) Resistant to chance, injury, etc.
C) Guaranteed to be successful at the next level.
 
disaacks3 said:
If Michael Vick wasn't "light enough on his feet" to avoid taking a hit IN THE NFL, then there's no way that Vince will be.
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Vick, however, took a few big hits in college too if I remember correctly...
 
Fiddy said:
Difference is that VY has NEVER, I repeat, NEVER taken a big hit. He is so light on his feet that he'll move is body in a way that will avoid him from taking a big hit.
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Michael Vick is just as light on his feet, if not more, and he has been sidelined several times due to taking big hits.

Vince will be going up against LB's and even some DE's who are bigger and just as fast as him in the NFL. There isn't really anything you can do if your LT or RT blows the block and lets Julius Peppers get a clean hit on our blind side.

He also may be able to throw a deep ball, but the difference is that Culpepper, Vick, Leftwich, and all of the other strong armed QB's can throw the ball 40 yards on a rope and probably 60 or 70 yards still with some velocity. I've yet to see Vince do that.
 
Watching Vince lope over Katy defense in 2001 was unbelievable. Everybody said he wouldn't be able to do that in college ball.

The UT coaches didn't take long to learn that if they got out of his way, he could prove them wrong.

Next level, same story.

The Texans put Kubiak and Young on board - they can have what's in my wallet. I will be in the stands every game.
 
tulexan said:
Daunte Culpepper runs a lot and a lot of people have trouble tackling him. Probably because he is bigger than most LB's. But he is about 30 lbs bigger than Vince and he is out for the season because he took a big hit. He also has a howitzer for an arm which Vince does not.
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Culpepper is out for the season because he tore ligaments in his knee after somebody fell on it. Hardly what I'd consider a "big hit".

If you're going to use Culpepper as an example of why teams should avoid QBs that run, you might as well say teams should avoid RBs because of what happened to Terrell Davis, Gayle Sayers, and a plethora of other RBs that have had similar injuries.

While they're at it, they should all avoid going to the Pro Bowl. Just ask Robert Edwards what that can do for your career.
 
Huge said:
Culpepper is out for the season because he tore ligaments in his knee after somebody fell on it. Hardly what I'd consider a "big hit".

If you're going to use Culpepper as an example of why teams should avoid QBs that run, you might as well say teams should avoid RBs because of what happened to Terrell Davis, Gayle Sayers, and a plethora of other RBs that have had similar injuries.

While they're at it, they should all avoid going to the Pro Bowl. Just ask Robert Edwards what that can do for your career.
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Nice. Especially the Robert Edwards throw in.
 
Other QBs that have missed a lot of time during the season:

Brian Griese
Byron Leftwich
Rex Grossman
Marc Bulger
Chad Pennington
Kurt Warner
Ben Roethlisberger

Would you classify those guys as "running QBs"? I wouldn't. But yet they all had injuries this past season.

How is this possible?
 
stevo3883 said:
yeah he has a great ability to have tacklers just slide right off him.


can you seriously think of someone that ran like him? we can compare reggie bush to gale sayers and what not. but vince doesnt really have a comparison from the past.
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randall cunnigham, though cunnigham was better.
 
Tale Gator said:
How was he better coming into the league than Vince? :confused:
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true, was comparing and nfl player to a college player which is stupid. have to wait till young becomes a bust to make that statement true.
 
Janus3 said:
have to wait till young becomes a bust to make that statement true.
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No doubt - don't want to get ahead of yourself.
 
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