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I forget if it was this message board or another, but four years ago I came and told you guys that you'd regret it if you didn't take Julius Peppers because he was clearly the best player in the draft, and that rumors about him taking plays off were complete nonsense forwarded by people who didn't know anything about football (people mistook Peppers being stoned at the line due to bad technique for a lack of effort, but lazy guys don't chase RBs down and tackle them 40 yards downfield). Anyway, I'm sorry to tell you that you made another huge mistake (even more sorry because the Panthers will have to play Bush twice a year).

Basically, if you had to pick any player in the draft based on his measureables and workout numbers, that guy would be Mario Williams. In those terms, he is on the level of Julius Peppers (or a little higher for that matter). In all other terms, he mostly certainly isn't. I can tell you that Manny Lawson and not Mario Williams was the N.C. State DE who made the most plays, and the one opposing teams worried more about. Williams plays upright (not surprising for someone 6'7"), and usually tries to hold and shed rather than using his strength or quickness to advance upfield and make plays. Then if you'll care to watch the ESPN highlights, you'll see that almost all of Williams' sacks actually came when he was unblocked, when the QB rolled outside of the pocket, or when teams tried to block him with a RB or TE. And quite frankly, the ACC doesn't have the best offensive tackles in the world either, especially at RT. Maybe some of you have already noticed that despite being a three year starter, this was the first year Williams had more than 6 sacks.

Look, I love Domanick Davis and I even think David Carr will be a quality quarterback if you guys give him some protection. For some reason I like the Texans and want you guys to do well, but you should have called for Casserly's head a long time ago. The guy has royally screwed your franchise time and time again, and this will definitely go down as the dumbest move of them all. Mario Williams won't be a bust per say, but he'll never be an elite player either. Meanwhile you'll have to watch Reggie Bush shred defenses for the next decade.
 
Ding, ding. This is the post of the day. Trust me, these points will be raised in the coming days...not saying Williams isn't a stud athlete. However, he really was not a dominating force in college.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/columns/story?columnist=smith_michael&id=2419503

Critics point to the fact that 13½ of Williams' 14½ sacks last season came in the Wolfpack's final seven games and wonder about his consistency. Williams offered an interesting explanation for that. It took him four games to figure out how to better deal with cut blocks. Instead of wasting time pushing down with both hands on blockers' shoulder pads and stepping around the block the way linemen are taught, Williams learned how to handle blockers with one hand or just hurdle them. He had three sacks in NC State's fifth game, against Wake Forest.

A longtime defensive line coach says that on film, Williams appears to be playing a bit "cautious." Williams concurred with the observation. At NC State, the ends' first responsibility was outside containment (bootlegs, reverses) and at one point they weren't even allowed to take an inside rush. That discipline might give the impression that Williams was taking plays off. "I don't feel like my play changed from the beginning of the season to the end of the season," he said. "Maybe my numbers were different, but I ran the same way."
 
You cannot dispute the kid turned it up in the latter part of the season (both his junior and senior years). However, you have to earn the overall top pick and it should be done on the field. Like it or not, Bush, Young, Hawk, and Ferguson were more consistent on the field (at the collegiate level). Only time will tell how bad/good of a pick this was.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
It took him four games to figure out how to better deal with cut blocks.
#1) Maybe this explains why he went to State (if you were from ACC country you'd understand the humor there).

#2) I saw probably half of their games and I can't recall much cut blocking. Even if you had, cut blocking is mostly something that teams employ when throwing a quick route such as a slant, or perhaps on running plays. It's not something that you would use on a conventional passing play, so I don't really understand the comment. Maybe the author doesn't really know football (oops, just saw that it's Michael Smith, so yes that explains it).
At NC State, the ends' first responsibility was outside containment (bootlegs, reverses) and at one point they weren't even allowed to take an inside rush.
Except that if you watch the tape, Williams didn't always keep outside containment. Moreover, none of this stopped Manny Lawson from being a terror on the other side while supposedly facing the better tackle.
 
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