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Via ABC 13: Phillips named DC (premature/false report/NOW DONE DEAL)

LOL Hey, I can change, you've seen me.. I think I need a new #1, but these days, no one seems worthy... let me go read some threads, bound to be one out there... we need a playoff system put in place :)

LOL!

Before I read that last part of your post, I was JUST thinking that you are like the BCS Poll of this message board.

The Mel Kiper of this message board.

It's getting to where I just always scan and look for your sig line...to see who is now #1 on your list.

A playoff system? Very interesting idea. Good luck getting that achieved.
 
Kubiak and Wade speaking by phone tonight:

Kubiak: Im excited Mark(Speaking to Mark Berman). We had a list of candidates but started with guy we thought who was most qualified and fit our situation and that was Wade and thats where it ended. Very excited. Important we send a message to our team of where we are headed. We'll put together a staff and put these players in position.

Phillips: Everyone was expecting it but it wasnt final. Great feeling for me. They wanted me. I think much of them.

You feel like the pieces are in place?

Got some good players. Some young guys that will improve.
 
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Kubiak and Wade speaking by phone tonight:

Kubiak: Im excited Mark(Speaking to Mark Berman). We had a list of candidates but started with guy we thought who was most qualified and fit our situation and that was Wade and thats where it ended. Very excited. Important we send a message to our team of where we are headed. We'll put together a staff and put these players in position.

Phillips: Everyone was expecting it but it wasnt final. Great feeling for me. They wanted me. I think much of them.

You feel like the pieces are in place?

Got some good players. Some young guys that will improve.

"Some young guys that will improve."

Talk is cheap. Anybody can say all this stuff about being excited, and blah blah blah.

Tired of Texans Talk. I want Texans Action.

Rep your way, for posting the transcripts of stuff for us. Very cool. I'm now to the point where I know that "the guy posting the transcripts" is the poster known as HoustonSportsFan09. Sorry about failing to give you the proper credit on the other transcript posts you made. Couldn't remember who did it.
 
"Some young guys that will improve."

Talk is cheap. Anybody can say all this stuff about being excited, and blah blah blah.

Tired of Texans Talk. I want Texans Action.

Rep your way, for posting the transcripts of stuff for us. Very cool. I'm now to the point where I know that "the guy posting the transcripts" is the poster known as HoustonSportsFan09. Sorry about failing to give you the proper credit on the other transcript posts you made. Couldn't remember who did it.

Right when I was trying to get excited about what Wade said, you say this and remind me of how bad our past coaching staff has been and the long list of things we've seen these past five seasons. ****. Talk is definitely cheap. I'm with DexmanC here. Let's see where this team is at after 12 games. Forget the rest.
 
You are a softy for people, TK. Not saying that that's "bad" or anything. I just think you have a greater capacity for patience and compassion than most others. I think you'd make a great mentor to kids, that's for sure.

Not exactly. I'm calling for more heads, not less.

That tells me that the culture on the Texans is that it is VERY authority-driven. I still think Kubiak overrides everyone on his team, especially when we see Slaton epic failing at returning kicks for so long. I think Kubiak let Bush do it "his way" [Bush's way] to a tee. If so, it speaks poorly of a lot of people. He was a first-time full-time NFL d-coord. In THAT essence, I think he was failed by others...but only to a degree.
To me, this sounds like you want this "authority driven" thing to work for you when it makes sense to you, & not when it doesn't fit your agenda.

Kubiak is going to tell Marciano (someone with much more experience doing what he does than Frank Bush) to use Slaton & not McMannis or Casey (even though he's a TE, surely he'd have done a better job than Slaton).... but the buck stops with Frank Bush. I'm not a softy for Bush, it's not that he got fired that I'm in disagreement with, but that they are making it look like he was ultimately responsible. It didn't get to the headcoach.....

I don't understand that, it's got to go to the head coach or the GM, in this situation. The problems we've had on defense didn't just pop up the last two years, they're chronic problems we've had since day one.
 
I wouldnt count on that , Gary is Bob's guy.




I guess you forget how many TE's went down last season (09) and how the depth at the position paid off ..... :chickendance:

& it hurt us at LB this year. If we'd have drafted a Sharpton two years ago, he could have been ready to step into Demeco's role this year.

Or had we drafted Willis in '07, he could have slid over to play Mike. If he was our Mike, then Adibi or Diles could have stepped up....
 
I don't have a problem with the Texans hiring Phillips. What I do have a problem with is that once again no real search was made to fill the position. McNair flat out does not know how to run this franchise.

Wade Phillips being available after week 8.... & the problems we've seen since week 1, I guarantee you there isn't an owner in the NFL who wasn't already thinking about acquiring Wade in some capacity for next season.

Bob waiting till the end of the season to fire Frank Bush might have been the only thing that threw anyone off of what he might be doing. But if you search this board, people were talking about bringing in Wade as early as the day after the Cowboys fired him.

It makes sense.... you need to understand that, before you start questioning what McNair knows & doesn't know. Plenty of things out there to use as evidence of McNair's short comings. this isn't one of them.

The fact that we had an inside track (Bum has been an avid, vocal Texans supporter since day one. He's been a supporter of Kubiak since 2006) only makes it the more obvious path for us to take.

So, when you think that any GM, team owner, team CEO, team president (or VP) of football operations had Wade Phillips on their short list, the day they heard he may be in trouble in Dallas. They would have to sit there thinking, who else would we prefer to Wade. In our case, the Texans want you to think Marvin Lewis was slotted ahead of Phillips....

Then that's the order you go after them. You don't interview your top guy, then interview the next three on your list..... just like FA, if the guy leaves without a contract, you failed. That's what happened here.

Either Wade was numero uno on their list, or Lewis was. Doesn't matter. There aren't many guys who would put anyone available above Wade Phillips as DC...

John Fox, Jeff Fischer.... maybe. Rob Ryan would be a guy I'd give a shot to, but Kubiak already screwed that pooch... he needed someone with a track history of success & someone who would come work for him...... I'm sure that was a one name list, no matter how you shake it.
 
To me, this sounds like you want this "authority driven" thing to work for you when it makes sense to you, & not when it doesn't fit your agenda.

Frank Bush was given the keys to the car.

Every week, Kubiak stood at the podium and said Frank was doing a heckuva' job. That he liked what Frank was doing out there, blah blah blah.

So either Kubiak is a liar, or he truly believed that his d-coord was doing an OK job....but those pesky kids just weren't getting it.

You think Kubiak decided, on his own, without any intervention by owner & GM, to fire Frank Bush? Kubiak doesn't dispense with "his guys" very easily. All season long, he moaned and sadly said he sure doesn't hope nothin' bad happens at the end of the year because he sure does care about all his coaches--the guys brought in by him--and blah blah blah.

Kubiak is like a laser beam. It focuses narrowly on a single point upon a surface and bores a hole through it. However, none of the surrounding area is greatly affected by it. His hole he's bored is the offense.

He was trying to let Frank Bush laser beam that defense, giving him two years to make a go of it. It is up for debate if Kubiak would have fired Frank Bush on his own, with no outside arm twisting by owner & GM. But I think the ultimatum was laid down to Kubiak. Let's be grownups here and say this is the most likely scenario.

Lastly, Kubiak's affection for Steve Slaton (he was "the guy" who at least made Kubiak's life fairly easy for one season) is what drove Kubiak (IMO) to override Marciano and tell Joe that Steve would be fielding kickoffs. Kubiak is uber loyal, you know that TK. So he's not going to just have Steve ride the pine. How many carries did Steve get this season? Foster and Ward were our only two RBs who trotted onto the field. In fact, it was odd to see Slaton come off the field after a kickoff and Foster passes him on the way to the huddle. Steve Slaton, for all practical purposes, shouldn't be on this roster in 2011. But, I have a feeling he will somehow. Just a hunch. Gary will take him one more year in all likelihood. It's that loyalty thing. That "I brought you here, and I am responsible for you" thing.

A wise man once said "I am not responsible FOR you. I am responsible TO you." Which means that in our lives, those who have influence over our lives (coaches, teachers, bosses, etc.) are not ultimately held responsible FOR what happens to us--We're of our own accord and can make our own decisions in life. However, we are responsible TO people. Which means we ought to extend our best efforts to the person and try as hard as we can to set them up for success and then the person can hit it out of the park.

I'll just say that Kubiak strikes me as a person who has those two things confused. I think, IMO, he's got a thing for trying to give people a chance and then not having the guts to tell the person they failed.

Kinda' odd that this is how we also describe McNair on here, eh? Two guys who can't stop being loyal...even to their own detriment. They're coexisting equals, IMO, and that's why Bob likes Kubiak so much.

Enough is enough, except the guy with the checkbook doesn't think it's enough yet. We wonder "what WILL be enough?" but it's just becoming laughable at this stage. This, IMO, is the root of the anger of some people on here. An inability to throw away the night-night blankie and the pacifier and say "This is where the rubber meets the road."

The "Uber loyal" personalities in here, though, are not sure about that angle. I mean, heck...it's traumatic to make a drastic change and all. It's just downright traumatic. This is the mindset of a parent who feels he/she is responsible FOR their kid...even though the kid is 17 and ought to know better by now. Oh well, bail the kid out of jail. Kids are kids. This, IMO, is the predicament that our nation is in right now: To what level am I ultimately responsible FOR and/or TO another person?

Go Texans.
 
Oh yeah, for at least the next 6 years. As long as we post at least one 9-7 record, of course.

You left out the possible expansion to an 18-game season.

9-7 will become 10-8.

That's a huge improvement. Our first 10-win season!

Gonna' go stock up on party favors and prepare the parade routes.
 
You left out the possible expansion to an 18-game season.

9-7 will become 10-8.

That's a huge improvement. Our first 10-win season!

Gonna' go stock up on party favors and prepare the parade routes.

ugh....I bet we'll be one of the first 9-9 teams in the NFL, because we haven't had a stab at that level of mediocrity, yet.

And nine wins is still "on the right track", because that's the highest number we've won in our history!
 
ugh....I bet we'll be one of the first 9-9 teams in the NFL, because we haven't had a stab at that level of mediocrity, yet.

And nine wins is still "on the right track", because that's the highest number we've won in our history!

You would think McNair wouldn't LENGTHEN the season...

But rather he would SHORTEN it.

To a one-game season.

McNoob: "Alright, Gary! Get the kids prepared for week 1. Tell them this is the most important 60 minutes of their life. Win this game, and we're into the playoffs!!!!"

Kubiak: "Is there any chance you get the game shortened to 58 minutes?"

McNoob: (staring intensely at Gary)..."Brilliant idea, Gary. I knew I kept you for some reason. You know, Rick told me I shouldn't but....hey RICK! Get the commish on the phone, I need to phone in a favor...."

Rick: "I don't do that."

McNoob: "Don't do what?"

Rick: "Ring people up on the phone. I don't do that. Get Gary to do it."

McNoob: "You don't do that? What the hell do you do anyways?"

Rick: "It's time for your special medicine, Bob. Here ya' go..."

McNoob: "Oh goody! It tastes like cherry. Cherry's my favorite."

Rick: "Feel better?"

McNoob: "Much. Thank ya', Rick. You're a life saver. Now where were we?"

Rick and Gary, together: "We were just talking about how well the kids are playing out there and how they are battlin' and just playing their tails off."

LOL. Cue the jack-in-the-box creepy music.......
 
You would think McNair wouldn't LENGTHEN the season...

But rather he would SHORTEN it.

To a one-game season.

McNoob: "Alright, Gary! Get the kids prepared for week 1. Tell them this is the most important 60 minutes of their life. Win this game, and we're into the playoffs!!!!"

Kubiak: "Is there any chance you get the game shortened to 58 minutes?"

McNoob: (staring intensely at Gary)..."Brilliant idea, Gary. I knew I kept you for some reason. You know, Rick told me I shouldn't but....hey RICK! Get the commish on the phone, I need to phone in a favor...."

Rick: "I don't do that."

McNoob: "Don't do what?"

Rick: "Ring people up on the phone. I don't do that. Get Gary to do it."

McNoob: "You don't do that? What the hell do you do anyways?"

Rick: "It's time for your special medicine, Bob. Here ya' go..."

McNoob: "Oh goody! It tastes like cherry. Cherry's my favorite."

Rick: "Feel better?"

McNoob: "Much. Thank ya', Rick. You're a life saver. Now where were we?"

Rick and Gary, together: "We were just talking about how well the kids are playing out there and how they are battlin' and just playing their tails off."

LOL. Cue the jack-in-the-box creepy music.......

I imagine Andy Griffith, from the movie Rustler's Rhapsody, to star in the role of McNoob.

Rick is obviously played by Will Smith, with the sort of ain't-here-to-get-along swagger of Men In Black.

Gary plays himself because nobody can replicate that hair of his. Not even the special effects people in Hollywood. George Lucas won't touch that CGI project.
 
After Wade Phillips agreed to become the Texans’ new defensive coordinator on Wednesday, he and coach Gary Kubiak went to owner Bob McNair’s office.

McNair dialed Bum Phillips’ telephone number in Goliad.
“When he answered, Bob said, ‘Bum, I’ve got someone here who wants to talk to you,’ ” Wade Phillips said after he returned to his home in Dallas. “I got on the phone and said, ‘Daddy, we’re Texans now.’ ”


Daddy, ha really?!:wadepalm:
 
“When he answered, Bob said, ‘Bum, I’ve got someone here who wants to talk to you,’ ” Wade Phillips said after he returned to his home in Dallas. “I got on the phone and said, ‘Daddy, we’re Texans now.’ ”


Daddy, ha really?!:wadepalm:

Yeah, that made me LOL as wel.

You're a grown man Wade.

Anywho, REALLY excited to have Wade on board, and even more excited to see the 3-4 back in town. I loves me some 3-4.
 
McNair on hiring Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator: "I've never been so confident about our coaching staff as I am now." "Generally, when you make any kind of change... you say, 'Boy, I hope this works out.' I'm not saying that here. It will work out."
 
After Wade Phillips agreed to become the Texans’ new defensive coordinator on Wednesday, he and coach Gary Kubiak went to owner Bob McNair’s office.

McNair dialed Bum Phillips’ telephone number in Goliad.
“When he answered, Bob said, ‘Bum, I’ve got someone here who wants to talk to you,’ ” Wade Phillips said after he returned to his home in Dallas. “I got on the phone and said, ‘Daddy, we’re Texans now.’ ”


Daddy, ha really?!:wadepalm:

Did this really happen? Or is it for comedic effect?

If all this stuff really did transpire, then they are 9-year-olds. Period.
 
Did this really happen? Or is it for comedic effect?

If all this stuff really did transpire, then they are 9-year-olds. Period.

I dont know if it really happened, I assume it did, but that's what was reported in the Chron.
 
McNair on hiring Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator: "I've never been so confident about our coaching staff as I am now." "Generally, when you make any kind of change... you say, 'Boy, I hope this works out.' I'm not saying that here. It will work out."

"It will work out."

LOL.

I'm glad McNoob isn't apprehensive about this hire. I mean, if he feels good about it, then it will mean great things.

If we dream it, we can make it.
 
Wade's first day today. He will start by recommending coaches to Kubiak so Kubiak can interview them. Although names have 'leaked' out elsewhere, none given here. As previously reported, not allowed to talk to LB coach Reggie Herring.
 
Wade's first day today. He will start by recommending coaches to Kubiak so Kubiak can interview them. Although names have 'leaked' out elsewhere, none given here. As previously reported, not allowed to talk to LB coach Reggie Herring.

Why is Kubiak going anywhere near the defensive staff? Wade should simply tell him who he's hiring and call it a day.

Jesus, has this team learned ANYTHING?
 
Why is Kubiak going anywhere near the defensive staff? Wade should simply tell him who he's hiring and call it a day.

Jesus, has this team learned ANYTHING?


I agree. This makes no sense.

Seriously? Man people are trying hard to be critical these days.
The guy in charge should interview coaching candidates. I'm sure Kubiak will defer to Wade's decision on who is hired. You guys are reaching. IMO.
 
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Why is Kubiak going anywhere near the defensive staff? Wade should simply tell him who he's hiring and call it a day.

Jesus, has this team learned ANYTHING?

Yes, they learned from the Chris Palmer/Dom Capers days that is important a head coach is in on staff decisions, that he be able to trust who he's got. Anyway, Kubiak and McNair have said this is a group process. What is so hard for folks to accept about that? Kubiak has to work with these guys too, so he should be involved. But the team has already said they are intend that Phillips will get the guys he wants.
 
Why is Kubiak going anywhere near the defensive staff? Wade should simply tell him who he's hiring and call it a day.

Jesus, has this team learned ANYTHING?

Doesn't mean that Kubiak is approving anything, just means he is interviewing. And as head coach, it's his job. McNair has already said that Wade will have a wide latitude on hiring his staff. I don't see anything here to be suspicious of.
 
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