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USC WR Nelson Agholor

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I've got a man-crush on this dude for our SlotWR... he's a Reggie Cobb type with great RAC ability and punt returns. 6'0, 198 lbs., 32.5" arms.

This guy has an excellent football IQ, is intelligent, slippery with the ball and improved route runner. Watch this interview...

USC WR Nelson Agholor's Combine Presser

Some game cutups...

"Everybody" loved Marquise Lee last year and I was kinda meh...

Agholor for me is what everyone saw in Lee last year.
 
I was watching some USC players (mostly trying to get a look at Javorius Allen) and I like Agholor quite a bit.
 
Agholor for me is what everyone saw in Lee last year.
He's draftable based upon his return ability alone. Like Randall Cobb, Agholor became a receiver in college. I think he is a better receiver than Cobb was coming out of college. The Texans need to make more big plays, and Agholor is one of the more explosive receivers in the draft.
 
Best slot receiver in the draft for my money. I'd take him in the first. I know that's not popular, but I'm afraid he won't be there in the second.
 
Best slot receiver in the draft for my money. I'd take him in the first. I know that's not popular, but I'm afraid he won't be there in the second.

Problem is that we need to continue to go all out until we get a QB that can throw to these guys.
 
Best slot receiver in the draft for my money. I'd take him in the first. I know that's not popular, but I'm afraid he won't be there in the second.

More I see of this guy, more I like him. Would surely lock up the slot and imo make D Johnson and Martin expendable


edit: He needs to get quite a bit stronger and more physical in the run game
 
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Phillip Dorsett IMO has also been very impressive at Indy. He's got excellent long-speed as he ran I believe a 4.33 (unofficial), and that's very good. But on one of the pas-catching drills, the one where thy catch 4 to 5 passed in rapid succession he showed excellent hands and quickness, hand-eye- coordination. So in other words this guy appears to be much more than a just a track guy. Maybe we could get one of these wide-outs with our second round pick, but that won't be easy. I want us to use our first round pick on a Dlineman (maybe Malcolm Brown), or one of the OTs, or perhaps a corner. We got lots of needs, not to mention QB in the event Billy wants to take a shot at someone. Too many needs with too little Draft picks.
 
I was watching NFLN's greatest football factories show the other day, USC ended up #1. Figured we need to get more USC players on our squad.
 
Ringing the bell again for this young man.

His interviews are impressive(Pro Day): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZhbHs90oz0

His production and offensive % was very good...
Football Outsiders uses a model called "Playmaker Score" to project collegiate receivers into the NFL. The system uses a variety of statistical measures gathered since 1996 to both predict professional functionality and compare players to receivers of the past 20 or so years.

According to this year's projections, which were complied for ESPN Insider by Nathan Forster, Agholor ranks as the second-best receiver in the 2015 class, trailing only Cooper. The system matched him with Terry Glenn (No. 7 overall pick in the 1996 draft) and Ike Hilliard (No. 7 overall pick in the 1997 draft) among historical comparisons.

Agholor's score was likely helped along by a strong "peak" year last season, in which he caught 104 passes for 1,313 yards and 12 touchdowns. The "Playmaker Score" model is built off of production on a per-attempt basis, and Agholor's 104 catches and 12 touchdowns were impressive considering USC threw only 460 times in 2014. He caught nearly a third of the offense's 318 completions.

For comparison's sake, White caught 109 passes and scored 10 touchdowns last season, but West Virginia threw the football 534 times. Meanwhile, Parker failed to eclipse 1,000 receiving yards in a single season despite playing a full four years at Louisville (of which two were with quarterback Teddy Bridgewater).

This is one intelligent, hard-working, productive, return star, WR. Love him.

I think teams will look back with seller's remorse on him... even in the 1st.
 
Ringing the bell again for this young man.

His interviews are impressive(Pro Day): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZhbHs90oz0

His production and offensive % was very good...

This is one intelligent, hard-working, productive, return star, WR. Love him.

I think teams will look back with seller's remorse on him... even in the 1st.

I'm praying to the football gods that we get him or Lockett in the third round. Wouldn't blink if we took either in the second.
 
Reminds me of Santonio Holmes/Ted Ginn Jr....not a good enough hands catcher for my liking. Wouldn't be mad if they picked him up........in the 2nd though.
 
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Agholor's going to surprise people on April 30. He could go before Strong and Perriman. Execs believe he's a sure thing and can play ASAP.

Two guys who NFL execs seem to have higher ranked than most mocks: USC WR Nelson Agholor and Wake Forest CB Kevin Johnson.
 
Doing some research on Nelson Algohor and I keep seeing him mocked to the Texans at 16.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/nelson-agholor?id=2552600

Strengths Runs a good route and competes hard on every snap. Able to drive defender into a poor leverage position. Bouncy, quick feet for burst out of breaks. Adequate separation quickness and twitch. Understands his position. Will improvise to get open for scrambling quarterback. Highly instinctive in space with consistent feel for working his way to open spaces as a presentable, ready target. Almost always works his way back to the throw when needed. Natural hands. Has snatch-and-run readiness after the catch with initial quickness to make things happen. Tracks the ball over his shoulder and careful not to crowd himself against the boundary. Dominated the competition over second half of the year. Dangerous punt returner.

Weaknesses Quicker than fast. Has some straight-line to him with just average fluidity through hips. Unable to blow by cornerbacks and create separation over the top. Play strength is below average. Had issues shaking Oregon State CB Steven Nelson. Will get stuck in low gear from time to time by long, press corners with strength. Lean frame. Worked well from bunch formations and might rely on pre-snap movement to free himself, depending on matchup. Will have to prove he can work inside and take punishing shots from NFL defenders. Willing blocker but lacks the core strength to be consistently effective at it.

The bolded is what will endear him to O'Brien. I am now on the Algohor train! CHOO CHOO!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnZN_dmq23I
 
Yeah, I watched his tape and he's a pretty solid 2nd round pick...and that's about as high as I'd draft him.
 
Would be a huge reach at 16. Second round likely where he'll land.

Yeah, I watched his tape and he's a pretty solid 2nd round pick...and that's about as high as I'd draft him.

Some of yall haven't been keeping up Agholor has been moving up in rankings:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-mayocks-2015-nfl-draft-position-rankings-50

Mayock has him as the 5th best WR in this class

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/WR

CBS 7th

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015WR.php

Walter Football 5th

http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/WideReceiverRankings-2015nfldraft.html

5th

You see where I am going with this. He will be a mid to late first round pick
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-amari-cooper-among-speedsters-who-will-shine

Nelson Agholor, WR, USC

Agholor is not a straight-line speed guy. And that's OK, as plenty of pure straight-line speed guys -- like Darrius Heyward-Bey, who was drafted seventh overall by the Raiders in 2009 but has averaged just 402 receiving yards in six seasons since -- end up failing to make much of an impact in the NFL. The thing with Agholor is, when you combine his 40 time (which, at 4.42 seconds, is still pretty good, even if it's not best-in-class) with his impressive showings in the short shuttle and three-cone drill at his pro day, you have a picture of a receiver who can burn when he needs to and change direction with alacrity. Agholor is a good route-runner who could be the big surprise among this year's receiver crop. With his speed, quickness, hands and fluidity, he's got a shot to be this year's version of Odell Beckham Jr.

Nuk and Shorts on the outside with Agholor in the slot? BOB will have Mallett firing the howitzer all over the place.
 
Some of yall haven't been keeping up Agholor has been moving up in rankings:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-mayocks-2015-nfl-draft-position-rankings-50

Mayock has him as the 5th best WR in this class

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/WR

CBS 7th

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015WR.php

Walter Football 5th

http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/WideReceiverRankings-2015nfldraft.html

5th

You see where I am going with this. He will be a mid to late first round pick

I'm aware that he's shooting up draft boards, I can only tell you what I saw watching his cutups on DraftBreakdown. He didn't really have blazing speed, his routes and change of direction seems above-average but not on a level that made me want him 16th overall, decent hands (played with a terrible QB from the looks of it, depending on what year the games were from). The biggest issues to me were that he was really bad at blocking downfield and if it wasn't a passing play, he seems to have a significantly slower burst off the line at the snap.

Plenty of guys shoot up draft boards every year and end up being picked nowhere near the first. Hell, just look at Tom Savage last year. I also think the comparison to Hopkins is extremely ill-fitting; in the 2013 draft he was the second of only 3 wideouts chosen, with him at 27 and the next-closest being Tavon Austin (more of an offensive weapon than pure wideout like Hopkins) at 8th overall; him falling to the Texans was more of a combination of talent and need than simple positioning.

And even if he is the 5th-ranked or whatever wideout for some guys, that's even less of an incentive to draft him, IMO. I'd rather get the 7th-ranked guy in the 2nd and draft a top-3 OLB, lineman, or corner.
 
I'm aware that he's shooting up draft boards, I can only tell you what I saw watching his cutups on DraftBreakdown. He didn't really have blazing speed, his routes and change of direction seems above-average but not on a level that made me want him 16th overall, decent hands (played with a terrible QB from the looks of it, depending on what year the games were from). The biggest issues to me were that he was really bad at blocking downfield and if it wasn't a passing play, he seems to have a significantly slower burst off the line at the snap.

Plenty of guys shoot up draft boards every year and end up being picked nowhere near the first. Hell, just look at Tom Savage last year. I also think the comparison to Hopkins is extremely ill-fitting; in the 2013 draft he was the second of only 3 wideouts chosen, with him at 27 and the next-closest being Tavon Austin (more of an offensive weapon than pure wideout like Hopkins) at 8th overall; him falling to the Texans was more of a combination of talent and need than simple positioning.

And even if he is the 5th-ranked or whatever wideout for some guys, that's even less of an incentive to draft him, IMO. I'd rather get the 7th-ranked guy in the 2nd and draft a top-3 OLB, lineman, or corner.

I'll agree to disagree. Agholor looks very good on tape.
 
I'll agree to disagree. Agholor looks very good on tape.

No worries, I understand that not everyone feels the same way about every prospect; I went in hoping to be impressed and see why people were hyping him up and came away very underwhelmed (at least with regards to 16th overall status). His lack of effort on running plays was a huge turnoff, not to mention the fact that he can't break a tackle to save his life. Again, I think he'd be solid in the 2nd round but I wouldn't take him at our current spot. Maybe if we trade back with, say, the Cowboys.
 
A few weeks ago, I thought Agholor was more of a 2nd round guy, but there's a lot of chatter about him and he does look like a guy OB would like.

I wouldn't be surprised if we took him at #16 now, but I'm expecting to trade back and THEN draft him.
 
A few weeks ago, I thought Agholor was more of a 2nd round guy, but there's a lot of chatter about him and he does look like a guy OB would like.

I wouldn't be surprised if we took him at #16 now, but I'm expecting to trade back and THEN draft him.

That would be great if it happened. Sounds like Agholor could be OB's guy. Trading back and still getting him would be a prime example of how to play the draft correctly.
 
No worries, I understand that not everyone feels the same way about every prospect; I went in hoping to be impressed and see why people were hyping him up and came away very underwhelmed (at least with regards to 16th overall status). His lack of effort on running plays was a huge turnoff, not to mention the fact that he can't break a tackle to save his life. Again, I think he'd be solid in the 2nd round but I wouldn't take him at our current spot. Maybe if we trade back with, say, the Cowboys.

Yeah his blocking, or lack of, turned me off too. He's gonna have to add some muscle and at least learn to get in the way of someone
 
Some of yall haven't been keeping up Agholor has been moving up in rankings:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...e-mayocks-2015-nfl-draft-position-rankings-50

Mayock has him as the 5th best WR in this class

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/WR

CBS 7th

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015WR.php

Walter Football 5th

http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/WideReceiverRankings-2015nfldraft.html

5th

You see where I am going with this. He will be a mid to late first round pick

We'll see. I've got him and Dorsett as early to mid second round picks. Too early for 16 and too late for 51 without a trade of some kind.
 
Cut the bullshit.

All you guys that are saying that he's "too early for 16", are just afraid to say "yeah, he's worthy of 16, but I'd rather draft someone else."
 
Cut the bullshit.

All you guys that are saying that he's "too early for 16", are just afraid to say "yeah, he's worthy of 16, but I'd rather draft someone else."

Cuz you know everyone's thoughts and feelings? :rolleyes:
 
Cut the bullshit.

All you guys that are saying that he's "too early for 16", are just afraid to say "yeah, he's worthy of 16, but I'd rather draft someone else."

I'm not afraid to say it. I just don't believe he is worthy of 16. Being the 40th best player is not an insult, just a ranking. Maybe he moves up to 30-32? But I don't see him any higher on his best day. But there are always players taken I've never heard of, so who knows?
 
I don't care where a player is ranked in the draft process just like I don't care about recruiting stars in college recruiting. Watt was a 2 star coming out of high school and 10 other teams thought they drafted a player better than him. If you draft someone that turns into a playmaker, I don't care if you got them in the 1st or in UDFA.
 
I've have him and Dorsett as late first rounders that might suit the Texans really well. Trade down and pick whichever is rated higher. I am onboard.

If we stay at 16, the possibilities are endless, but the Corner from Wake Forest has been an under the radar guy that could be a real possibility. You can't have too many good corners when AL is in your division.
 
The kid has played CB, RB, and WR. He would be a HUGE upgrade in our return game, and we all know how badly we need that. This is the versatile player that O'Brien covets. I think it's likely this will be the Texans first selection unless an elite player falls to 16.
 
Best slot receiver in the draft for my money. I'd take him in the first. I know that's not popular, but I'm afraid he won't be there in the second.

I think you were spot on. Wish Texans had drafted him now. Love his attitude & speed is electric. Think Strong struggles & Agholor flies.
 
I think you were spot on. Wish Texans had drafted him now. Love his attitude & speed is electric. Think Strong struggles & Agholor flies.

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The question is how good will Kevin Johnson be. The jury is out on that. If given a choice give me Agholor, the Texans had trouble scoring points last yr. Hope I'm wrong about Johnson and he can become a difference maker.
 
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The question is how good will Kevin Johnson be. The jury is out on that. If given a choice give me Agholor, the Texans had trouble scoring points last yr. Hope I'm wrong about Johnson and he can become a difference maker.

Spin it another direction. First three picks for both Texans & Eagles addressed same positions. Texans CB, ILB, WR. Eagles WR, CB, ILB. Texans needed a WR to replace Andre Johnson Eagles needed to replace Maclin. Both say they targeted each who they selected. Both traded up in 2nd too. I'll be very interested to see how this develops.
 
Spin it another direction. First three picks for both Texans & Eagles addressed same positions. Texans CB, ILB, WR. Eagles WR, CB, ILB. Texans needed a WR to replace Andre Johnson Eagles needed to replace Maclin. Both say they targeted each who they selected. Both traded up in 2nd too. I'll be very interested to see how this develops.

I like Agholor a lot better especially for the Texans needs.

Love Rowe but understand the McKinney pick.

Love Hicks, but I'm an admitted UT homer.
 
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