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USC vs. UCLA

nunusguy

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First time to really see Bush - yea, he's impressive, but getting huge holes
to run thru. Will wait to see if he's in OJs league, who I think was faster ?
 
How can anyone say that we don't need him? He has almost 200 yards rushing in a little over 1 quarter.
 
I think the Texans will win another game or two and it won't matter about Bush because somebody else will get him...probably the Niners.
 
Either USC has the greatest line of all time or UCLA has the worst d-line of all time. They are getting mauled on every play . They really don't even need to attempt to pass. Actually they've been going run on 3rd and longs. I wish USC or Texas for that matter could play against some bigtime defenses.
 
WWJD said:
I think the Texans will win another game or two and it won't matter about Bush because somebody else will get him...probably the Niners.
And on top of that, we've got the strongest SOS, which means we lose all tie
breakers with the other teams. I'm thinkin we end up more in the 5-10 range.
If we'd win more than 2, we won't be drafting in the top ten.
 
How does UCLA only have one loss with their defense giving up 250+ yards on the ground every game??? Even if their offense is really good, it must be tough for the coach to watch his team get gashed every week...
 
Lionfart has looked real BAAAADDD. Kiss that trophy hope goodby. Winds an issue, but Olson for UCLA is dealing with it FAILY well. Bush has looked great. If we are in position to get him and don't get a stellar offer to trade down, then I wouldn't snival to badly with picking him. Still think that trading down is the right thing to do if the deal is right.
 
The Preacher said:
Leinart looks like a second day pick. Tripping, fumbling, throwing high. I wonder what Carr could do with that kind of time.
I dunno....how did he win the Heisman ? Just goes to show what West Coast media connections can get you. And it would be sweet of Carr had anything
like that kind of time, maybe just once or twice a game on average.
 
UCLA ranks 115th out of 117 teams in the NCAA DI. It is disturbing how much people fall in love when a guy can run against a horrible defensive team. Is Bush better than Williams who other than Dayne is the highest grossing yardwise guys in NCAA history.
 
tulexan said:
Reminder: Every team in the Big 12 except for Texas is pathetic
Hey, no one's talking VY for Heisman here... I'm just saying that people shouldn't look too much into Bush's (inflated) stats today as a basis for their arguments.
 
Coach C. said:
UCLA ranks 115th out of 117 teams in the NCAA DI. It is disturbing how much people fall in love when a guy can run against a horrible defensive team. Is Bush better than Williams who other than Dayne is the highest grossing yardwise guys in NCAA history.
Get real Bush produces week in and week out and has for the past two years, his YPC were about 8 yards BEFORE this game. Its so funny how people make excuses and say He can't do this or He can't do that or why He won't produce in the pros. Then they're so quick to defend DD, who the only thing he has proven is he can't stay healthy. If people don't want to draft Bush then just say you don't want to draft him. I hate to say this because I'm a big UT fan, but alot of questions are going to be answered in that game. Bush comes up big in big games
 
And when Bush runs for 150+ yards against Texas, what is the excuse going to be? The team was out late the night before?
 
Man he is not even the top RB in the NCAA. Matter of fact he has had 3 games where he has not made 100 yds rushing. Last year he had even more games and less yds rushing. Is he a good player-yeah, but is he the next coming of Christ-HELL NO...
 
And when Bush runs for 150+ yards against Texas, what is the excuse going to be? The team was out late the night before?
That Bush performed well against a good defense.

Don't expect all anti-Bush to remove credit in such stupid ways.
 
Coach C. said:
Man he is not even the top RB in the NCAA. Matter of fact he has had 3 games where he has not made 100 yds rushing. Last year he had even more games and less yds rushing. Is he a good player-yeah, but is he the next coming of Christ-HELL NO...

He doesn't have to be. USC gives EVERYBODY touches and they spread the ball AROUND!! If he played on a less talented team he would get even more opportunities. Watch who USC gives the ball to when they need a big play are if they're behind the 8 ball. He comes through when they need him.
 
Leinart reminds me of a poor man's Bernie Kosar. Bush is for real though there is no doubt about that. If the Texans get the first pick you have to take him unless you get the deal of the century.
 
The Preacher said:
Leinart reminds me of a poor man's Bernie Kosar.
Matt just doesn't have the zip on the ball he had last season. Leinart had shoulder surgery in the offseason that was deemed "minor", but it seems like that needs to be looked at again after the Rose Bowl.
 
Coach C. said:
they give the ball to Lendale White and Leinhart. That is why they account for more touchdowns.
They give it to White when they want to pound it in. Many teams do that. Texas did it today with the freshmen. Who did they give the ball to on 3rd and 10 when they were trapped deep in their backfield.
 
Coach C. said:
Man he is not even the top RB in the NCAA. Matter of fact he has had 3 games where he has not made 100 yds rushing. Last year he had even more games and less yds rushing. Is he a good player-yeah, but is he the next coming of Christ-HELL NO...

No, he may not be the best RB in the game, but was LT when he was at TCU? The point is, he may be one of the top 5 or 10 most exciting playmakers ever to play the game of football. Every time he is on the field, you expect him to do something special. Name another player that does that right now? Maybe a few but, your a hater. I will apologize for you.......Im sorry, I don't get football and we dont need Bush.......May God be with you.
 
uhcougar I will challenge you anyday to football technique, language, protocol, scouting, schemes, and anything in general as far as knowledge of football go. I am not going to attack anyone, but the fact of the Matter is LT was considered not only one of the most exciting playmakers, but a great RB. Bush is not as good as LT. Maybe the consensus, which is actually more in favor of not getting Bush than getting him, believes that Bush is the best playmaker they have ever seen. I am sorry I grew up with greats like, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, LT, Emmit Smith, Jerry Rice,and every other Hall of Famer of the time. I will not pronounce Bush as the greatest Player of All Time because he has never played a down in the NFL.

So to you anytime you want to match wits we can go big guy.
 
Coach C. said:
uhcougar I will challenge you anyday to football technique, language, protocol, scouting, schemes, and anything in general as far as knowledge of football go. I am not going to attack anyone, but the fact of the Matter is LT was considered not only one of the most exciting playmakers, but a great RB. Bush is not as good as LT. Maybe the consensus, which is actually more in favor of not getting Bush than getting him, believes that Bush is the best playmaker they have ever seen. I am sorry I grew up with greats like, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, LT, Emmit Smith, Jerry Rice,and every other Hall of Famer of the time. I will not pronounce Bush as the greatest Player of All Time because he has never played a down in the NFL.

So to you anytime you want to match wits we can go big guy.

Actually Im not that big, only around 5'6", so am offended by that one. Why is it that you hate someone that is so darn good? By the way, he is a great back, you are just blind. I know my football too son, so dont go there, because I grew up watching those same hall of famers too. He is one of the greatest college football players. I never said anything about him playing in the NFL.
 
As i stated before we dont need a diferremce maker Playmakers are so over rated im totally happy with DD. so what if he cant break a long one to change the game. reggie bush would just make us better and im used to mediocracy.
 
Napa Auto Parts said:
Playmakers are so over rated im totally happy with DD.
You and about half of the people on here think that you are so right and we need O-line right away. Your wrong. David said the other day that the second half against the Rams, they double teamed Dre, so he had no one to throw it too. Yes, we need a playmaker, im sick of the people who are so scared of a guy who is so amazing, maybe he will have to walk on water to prove things to people, wait hes been doing that all year long. Imagine if there was no L. White, maybe he would have rushed for 500 yds against UCLA. You people make me sick.
 
Bush Stands out on a Team full of Standouts! and have to share the rock! He's the best player on his team on a team that's the best in the country? does that telll you anything? Bush Avg 189 yards per game against 4 of USC's Best opponets this year. what that tells ya?
 
uhcougar08 said:
You and about half of the people on here think that you are so right and we need O-line right away. Your wrong. David said the other day that the second half against the Rams, they double teamed Dre, so he had no one to throw it too. Yes, we need a playmaker, im sick of the people who are so scared of a guy who is so amazing, maybe he will have to walk on water to prove things to people, wait hes been doing that all year long. Imagine if there was no L. White, maybe he would have rushed for 500 yds against UCLA. You people make me sick.


Easy there uhc, I think you missed the sarcasm in that last post by Napa.

Bush is IMO the real deal. Not taking him when (if) we get the chance is going to be something that I think most Texans fans will regret for a long, long time. As the season (both NFL and NCAA) gets closer to it's end people who are for drafting Bush are getting more excited by the prospect (and in some of their posts less realistic) and people against it are getting more and more down on his game (and again sounding less and less realistic in their evaluation of him).
 
I watched parts of the game today, and while I had some doubts early on (based mostly because I hadn't seen him play) I feel pretty good about it if we took him now. He might not have the size #s of a conventional RB, but he doesn't lack the strength or agility. I still want to see him against UTs defense and see if he can still make defenders look like children trying to tackle him. He doesn't just run around guys...It seemed like on every play he was breaking arm tackles without flinching. Now I don't know how much of that would translate to the NFL, but man...I just don't see the "scatback" knock some people have on him. Yes he's an exceptional athlete that can usually use his agility to get around people but in reality, that's just because he can, not because he has to. I still wouldn't be against a blockbuster tradedown, but I'm getting closer to the "sold" crowd.
 
Heywood said:
ucla on its worst day is a better team than colorado on its best.
UCLA on their other worst day...

UCLA (Undefeated at the time) - 14
Arizona (2-6 at the time) - 52

Yeah, those Bruins are a real powerhouse. :ok:
 
I did hear Dan Fouts say that Reggie Bush has been working with LaDainian Tomlinson for the past few years in the offseason and has been really working on improving his inside running. What makes him so dangerous is that he can get to full speed in about one step so when he does those counter runs he can draw the defense one way and then cut on a dime and run 40 yards. Like I have said earlier, I wasn't real high on him earlier in the season (but I admit I didn't see many of his games) but the more I see him, the more I like him. I feel foolish for doubting him before. I don't see how we could pass on him if we had the chance to draft him. Right now I would say there are only a handful of teams who could justify passing on him. The Chargers, the Seahawks (assuming they re-sign Alexander), and the Colts (assuming they re-sign James). Every other team would take him including the Texans. Who wouldn't want a guy who can potentially score a touchdown every single time he touches the ball? Think about how effective a playaction would be with him?

Go ahead and criticize him for playing against weaker competition and not being in the SEC. But what I have noticed from him is that he steps up for big games and seems to get better and better each week. I know that Fresno State isn't Georgia, but they aren't that bad of a team and it was a rivalry game. If Reggie didn't go nuts in that game and have 500 total yards, USC loses. If Reggie didn't have a great game against Notre Dame and push Matt Leinart into the endzone, USC loses. If Reggie didn't run for 200 yards in the first half of the UCLA game, USC might have lost. Matt Leinart didn't play very well and it seemed like every time UCLA had USC at 3rd and 10 Reggie would step up and bust out a 20 or 50 yard run. He demoralized the Bruins by consistently running right through them when they had USC pinned back and I think that Reggie could have threatened LT's rushing record if Pete Carroll let him rather than having Reggie share the wealth and give Matt and LenDale some yards and touchdowns. That is the kind of player you want on your team. You want a guy who can take over a game by himself and will a victory.
 
tulexan said:
I did hear Dan Fouts say that Reggie Bush has been working with LaDainian Tomlinson for the past few years in the offseason and has been really working on improving his inside running. What makes him so dangerous is that he can get to full speed in about one step so when he does those counter runs he can draw the defense one way and then cut on a dime and run 40 yards. Like I have said earlier, I wasn't real high on him earlier in the season (but I admit I didn't see many of his games) but the more I see him, the more I like him. I feel foolish for doubting him before. I don't see how we could pass on him if we had the chance to draft him. Right now I would say there are only a handful of teams who could justify passing on him. The Chargers, the Seahawks (assuming they re-sign Alexander), and the Colts (assuming they re-sign James). Every other team would take him including the Texans. Who wouldn't want a guy who can potentially score a touchdown every single time he touches the ball? Think about how effective a playaction would be with him?

Go ahead and criticize him for playing against weaker competition and not being in the SEC. But what I have noticed from him is that he steps up for big games and seems to get better and better each week. I know that Fresno State isn't Georgia, but they aren't that bad of a team and it was a rivalry game. If Reggie didn't go nuts in that game and have 500 total yards, USC loses. If Reggie didn't have a great game against Notre Dame and push Matt Leinart into the endzone, USC loses. If Reggie didn't run for 200 yards in the first half of the UCLA game, USC might have lost. Matt Leinart didn't play very well and it seemed like every time UCLA had USC at 3rd and 10 Reggie would step up and bust out a 20 or 50 yard run. He demoralized the Bruins by consistently running right through them when they had USC pinned back and I think that Reggie could have threatened LT's rushing record if Pete Carroll let him rather than having Reggie share the wealth and give Matt and LenDale some yards and touchdowns. That is the kind of player you want on your team. You want a guy who can take over a game by himself and will a victory.

Couldn't of said it better myself, good job.
 
Reggie doesn't block 11 guys for himself, and he doesn't throw the ball for himself.

My point being is that while you can continue to invest in weapons like the Lions have, you will run the risk of having neglected positions lead to your own downfall.
 
gg no re said:
Reggie doesn't block 11 guys for himself, and he doesn't throw the ball for himself.

My point being is that while you can continue to invest in weapons like the Lions have, you will run the risk of having neglected positions lead to your own downfall.

JH is terrible, he has all the weapons.
 
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