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Two Back offense
- Thread starter AlbinoRat
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hot pickle
Canada Eh
kastofsna said:
I'm gonna have to disagree with you with the ronnie/ricky thing
ronnie-907 yrds
williams-743 yrds
total: 1650 yrds
that's not a bad running game if you ask me
and pittman and williams combined for 1614
so i wouldn't go so far to say they didn't work, and it was brown and williams are both rookies so those numbers would get better next season
thetexanator
Veteran
theres already a team that runs the two back offence, ATLANTA. hahahhahaaahaha
awtysst
Draft Guru
Well typically in a two back system you have a big strong powerback and a smaller nimble speed back. See the SuperBowl champion Steelers. Bettis as the brusing powerback and Willie as the speedy nimbler back. It is much harder to run when you have two small backs, or 2 brusing powerbacks.
thetexanator
Veteran
no my man, vick and dunntulexan said:
Napa Auto Parts
Veteran
Eyeguy said:
Not really this is the NFL it might work a couple of times but that is it. if its possible to shut down Harrison and wayne and edge and with a great QB at that. imagine our package with a mediocre QB
mancunian
Old Timer
AlbinoRat said:
A lot of teams have two RB offenses - but its not very often they have them on the field at the same time.
I still see a need for Moran Norris to be in as a blocker if run play is called as I dont think blocking is the strength of either Bush or DD.
The problem you then have is if both on the field then the opposing defence will automatically set up to defend a pass.
One of the other posts mentioned the Seahawks split backs formation, typically they keep in the FB Mack Strong and use Mo Morris instead of Alexander in passing situations.
College Texan
Waterboy
We could run a wishbone offense
Texans Horror
All Pro
I could see us running the two-back system (two RBs on the field at the same time) if we drafted Lendale White. As far as Williams/Brown, my understanding was that they were not lining up on the field at the same time. They were switching out between plays.
Where it gets cool for the Texans is that DD is already a receiving RB. Adding another receiving RB gives Carr another target. The big question is: will they block?
Where it gets cool for the Texans is that DD is already a receiving RB. Adding another receiving RB gives Carr another target. The big question is: will they block?
TreWardTxn
Waterboy
The closest we'll ever have to both DD and RB being on the field at the same time would be if Bush proves he can play the slot in a singleback offense. All other running formations require a FB that can lead a tailback through the hole...
hot pickle
Canada Eh
ok my bad yall
Figure each team averages about 60 plays a game.
So, figure pulling him in short yardage and after long gains, he gets about 47 plays a game. I break that down:
16 rushes
15 play action/screens - looking at about 5 dumpoffs per game
16 times in motion to the slot (or lining up in the slot) - throw 6 times, give 10 carries to DD (who also gets about 5 carries when Bush is on the sideline)
I think he creates all kinds of mismatches. When he moves into the slot, a LB can't cover him (or he will get burned), so teams will have to adjust out of their normal D to compensate by leaving a 3rd CB in the game at all times, which in turn opens up the running game.
I think he averages 80 plus rushing, 8 catches and 90 yards a game receiving.
Lineup: I would primarily go with 2 sets: a pro style with DD and Bush together or an I style with Bush behind a FB: either of these would work with a TE, a WR and a 2nd WR (sometimes a 2nd TE if we draft one that can catch - c'mon Pope at #33).
I would mix in 3 WR sets occasionally if we get the talent at WR to make it work.
Pro style with DD and Bush together: Half of the time, I would put Bush and/or DD in motion to the slot.
I style with Bush behind a FB (we have a good FB so use him): I like this for running and passing downs (because the FB can run or pass block) because Bush is such a threat either way - a MLB/S can't cover him which means they will need a person on each side of the defense keying on him (or they will be forced to zone which AJ should exploit).
I would really push for a TE at #33 to make sure we have another threat on the field that can also block.
So, figure pulling him in short yardage and after long gains, he gets about 47 plays a game. I break that down:
16 rushes
15 play action/screens - looking at about 5 dumpoffs per game
16 times in motion to the slot (or lining up in the slot) - throw 6 times, give 10 carries to DD (who also gets about 5 carries when Bush is on the sideline)
I think he creates all kinds of mismatches. When he moves into the slot, a LB can't cover him (or he will get burned), so teams will have to adjust out of their normal D to compensate by leaving a 3rd CB in the game at all times, which in turn opens up the running game.
I think he averages 80 plus rushing, 8 catches and 90 yards a game receiving.
Lineup: I would primarily go with 2 sets: a pro style with DD and Bush together or an I style with Bush behind a FB: either of these would work with a TE, a WR and a 2nd WR (sometimes a 2nd TE if we draft one that can catch - c'mon Pope at #33).
I would mix in 3 WR sets occasionally if we get the talent at WR to make it work.
Pro style with DD and Bush together: Half of the time, I would put Bush and/or DD in motion to the slot.
I style with Bush behind a FB (we have a good FB so use him): I like this for running and passing downs (because the FB can run or pass block) because Bush is such a threat either way - a MLB/S can't cover him which means they will need a person on each side of the defense keying on him (or they will be forced to zone which AJ should exploit).
I would really push for a TE at #33 to make sure we have another threat on the field that can also block.
