Why don't we look at a few of the team's needs and strengths along with draft position to see what we could do that benefits us.
AZ jumps out at me this year. They have an extra 3rd rounder and a WR to spare (Johnson, #17 pick overall in 2003 but is their 3rd guy behind superstuds boldin and fitz)
AZ team needs: DT, FS, MLB, CB, TE, OL, RB, QB
Apparently DT, TE and FS are basically empty positions.
MLB and CB2 are weak.
The OL is in turmoil like ours except they have 2 keepers.
RB, Arrington is there but he didn't do much last year.
QB, Warner is ancient and McCown appears to be on the outs.
Draft picks:
1 - 8 (8)
2 -12 (44)
3 -11 (75)
3 -31 (95) from New England
4 -10 (111)
5 -32 (168) from New England
7 -12 (226)
What could we get if traded down to #8?
Projected top 3: Leinert/VY/Bush
Next 3: Ferguson/Hawk/MWilliams
At 7, ?
So, at 8; maybe CB JWilliams, DT Haloti Ngata, OT Winston
According to the point chart, the #1 pick is ranked at 3000 points (and many say it is worth more this year) and #8 is worth 1400 points.
Players they have we would pay for:
CB Rolle, OG LDavis, WRs Fitz/Bolden/Johnson, DE Okeafor/ASmith, DT DDockett, LB Dansby/Huff, SS AWilson,
Out of these, I love Rolle (ignoring Fitz and Bolden because they are not going anywhere). Dansby and LDavis would be sweet also.
Options:
If we traded down what could we get?
Trading down from 1 to 8 would mean that we get all their draft picks this year and their top 3 from next year, or they throw in a player of high value. I doubt they do either because of the high cost. But, if Green decided his qb of the future was there, I would give it to him in a minute for #8, Johnson and either Rolle or LDavis and Dansby.
But, if we trade down to 3-6 range, they may give up lower or future picks to move up a few slots.
What else can we trade to them for something (in other words, what can we offer to fill their holes)?
Going with the "one man's trash could be another's treasure" evaluation:
DT=Payne/Robaire/DeLoach,
I think this would be a good option for them.
FS=MColeman,
Not much value here, but it could fill their hole for 1 year so it has a little value
MLB=Greenwood (or Evans),
The cap hit we would take probably more than offsets the trade value on this guy.
CB=Buchy,
They need a 2nd CB.
TE=Bruener/Joppru,
Not much value here, but they need somebody.
OL=McKinney/Wade/Weigert,
A change of scenery may refresh them, and if not, at least they could cut them.
RB=Hollings/DD. I doub they want Hollings and again we take a large cap hit to trade DD. But, DD would be VERY interesting to Coach Green. So, something might be done there.
We would take cap hits on a few of these guys. But, I would consider a "Herschel" deal to get a few of their picks.
Payne/Robaire/Buchy/McKinney/Coleman for #44.
Or, we could do something along these lines:
trade #66 + (?, McKinney, Coleman and Robaire?) for #44 and Johnson.
DD for Johnson
Thoughts?
AZ jumps out at me this year. They have an extra 3rd rounder and a WR to spare (Johnson, #17 pick overall in 2003 but is their 3rd guy behind superstuds boldin and fitz)
AZ team needs: DT, FS, MLB, CB, TE, OL, RB, QB
Apparently DT, TE and FS are basically empty positions.
MLB and CB2 are weak.
The OL is in turmoil like ours except they have 2 keepers.
RB, Arrington is there but he didn't do much last year.
QB, Warner is ancient and McCown appears to be on the outs.
Draft picks:
1 - 8 (8)
2 -12 (44)
3 -11 (75)
3 -31 (95) from New England
4 -10 (111)
5 -32 (168) from New England
7 -12 (226)
What could we get if traded down to #8?
Projected top 3: Leinert/VY/Bush
Next 3: Ferguson/Hawk/MWilliams
At 7, ?
So, at 8; maybe CB JWilliams, DT Haloti Ngata, OT Winston
According to the point chart, the #1 pick is ranked at 3000 points (and many say it is worth more this year) and #8 is worth 1400 points.
Players they have we would pay for:
CB Rolle, OG LDavis, WRs Fitz/Bolden/Johnson, DE Okeafor/ASmith, DT DDockett, LB Dansby/Huff, SS AWilson,
Out of these, I love Rolle (ignoring Fitz and Bolden because they are not going anywhere). Dansby and LDavis would be sweet also.
Options:
If we traded down what could we get?
Trading down from 1 to 8 would mean that we get all their draft picks this year and their top 3 from next year, or they throw in a player of high value. I doubt they do either because of the high cost. But, if Green decided his qb of the future was there, I would give it to him in a minute for #8, Johnson and either Rolle or LDavis and Dansby.
But, if we trade down to 3-6 range, they may give up lower or future picks to move up a few slots.
What else can we trade to them for something (in other words, what can we offer to fill their holes)?
Going with the "one man's trash could be another's treasure" evaluation:
DT=Payne/Robaire/DeLoach,
I think this would be a good option for them.
FS=MColeman,
Not much value here, but it could fill their hole for 1 year so it has a little value
MLB=Greenwood (or Evans),
The cap hit we would take probably more than offsets the trade value on this guy.
CB=Buchy,
They need a 2nd CB.
TE=Bruener/Joppru,
Not much value here, but they need somebody.
OL=McKinney/Wade/Weigert,
A change of scenery may refresh them, and if not, at least they could cut them.
RB=Hollings/DD. I doub they want Hollings and again we take a large cap hit to trade DD. But, DD would be VERY interesting to Coach Green. So, something might be done there.
We would take cap hits on a few of these guys. But, I would consider a "Herschel" deal to get a few of their picks.
Payne/Robaire/Buchy/McKinney/Coleman for #44.
Or, we could do something along these lines:
trade #66 + (?, McKinney, Coleman and Robaire?) for #44 and Johnson.
DD for Johnson
Thoughts?
