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Tom Herman thread

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Tom Herman’s landing the Texas job. Here’s why he was 2016’s top candidate
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/11/26/13678902/tom-herman-hired-texas-longhorns-coach

Source: Tom Herman leaving Houston for Texas
Houston coach, once a graduate assistant at UT, gets his chance to lead the Longhorns
http://www.hookem.com/story/source-tom-herman-leaving-houston-texas/

Texas will hire Houston's Tom Herman as next Longhorns coach http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...xpected-to-announce-tom-herman-as-next-coach/

Source: Longhorns to hire Tom Herman as new coach
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ghorns-hire-tom-herman-replace-charlie-strong








 
Texian said:
Kirk Bohls ‏@kbohls 2m2 minutes ago


I'm told Herman may make $5.5 million at Texas first year and would average $6M over life of contract, but still trying to confirm.
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How much was he making here. $2.8 million? Our AD offered him a seven-figure pay raise last week but it was probably going to top out in the $4.5 million range. What hurt was the $5 million salary bonus he would have gotten had the Big 12 invited Houston to their conference. If he had netted that massive bonus he'd have made more money staying in Houston. At least over the next few years. Thanks a lot, Big 12!
 
Good for Hermann I wish HS he'd stayed but UofH is not in power 5 conference and the road to a playoff is too unlikely. I don't like UT but it is a premier job. I think Herman is going to recruit the hell out of this area and he'll benefit from Strongs house cleaning effort at UT.

This city has a ton of talent and I think we'll land another good HC that will eventually leave for a better job.
 
bah007 said:
Hold on, wait a second. No way this could be happening. I was assured that LSU was going to hire Herman. The guy that said Strong would be at Miami and Saban would be at Texas said so.
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They make a suave for that butt hurt. I think you're over doing it here, fabricating and making it up as you go along. Just to set the record straight Chip Brown got it right here. Never a question Herman coveted the Texas job, worst kept secret in all of sports. However there was the question and a strong possibility of Texas screwing it up. I always thought LSU was after Fisher. Yes there were reports of Strong 's interest in Miami but Miami wasn't interested in him. Loved them some Richt. And just who was that guy that was sure LSU was a lock for Herman and Saban was going to Texas? Good Grief that was some FAKE News. Surely you didn't believe it?
 
Texian said:
They make a suave for that butt hurt. I think you're over doing it here, fabricating and making it up as you go along. Just to set the record straight Chip Brown got it right here. Never a question Herman coveted the Texas job, worst kept secret in all of sports. However there was the question and a strong possibility of Texas screwing it up. I always thought LSU was after Fisher. Yes there were reports of Strong 's interest in Miami but Miami wasn't interested in him. Loved them some Richt. And just who was that guy that was sure LSU was a lock for Herman and Saban was going to Texas? Good Grief that was some FAKE News. Surely you didn't believe it?
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I'm not butt hurt at all. You replying to my post seems to indicate that you are though. Your boy Chip was wrong, just as he always is, and you feel the need to defend him. I get my info from people in the program that I trust. I don't get it from boosters who are trying to manipulate the media. Fabricating is what the guys you follow on twitter do. I have no need to fabricate anything. If I didn't know anything I wouldn't have said anything. I just brought the information that I had to the board.

When all the media was going crazy during the LSU game I made note that they were going to look pretty silly in a few days, because I had solid information from someone that I trust and that person ended up being right.

Of course there was a chance that Texas could screw it up. That's why the Texas boosters took this out to the media, to force the administration to make the move they wanted.

LSU was after Fisher. He's turned them down twice in two years now. He's set up in a pretty good situation with no reason to leave.

Strong was never looking to go to Miami. Your boy Chip was wrong. Texas boosters put that out there because they wanted Strong out. That's why all the info that hit the media was from the Texas side.

Fake news is what your boy Chip puts out so he can get some hits on his website. Surely you don't believe it since he is so consistently wrong?
 
bah007 said:
I'm not butt hurt at all. You replying to my post seems to indicate that you are though. Your boy Chip was wrong, just as he always is, and you feel the need to defend him. I get my info from people in the program that I trust. I don't get it from boosters who are trying to manipulate the media. Fabricating is what the guys you follow on twitter do. I have no need to fabricate anything. If I didn't know anything I wouldn't have said anything. I just brought the information that I had to the board.

When all the media was going crazy during the LSU game I made note that they were going to look pretty silly in a few days, because I had solid information from someone that I trust and that person ended up being right.

Of course there was a chance that Texas could screw it up. That's why the Texas boosters took this out to the media, to force the administration to make the move they wanted.

LSU was after Fisher. He's turned them down twice in two years now. He's set up in a pretty good situation with no reason to leave.

Strong was never looking to go to Miami. Your boy Chip was wrong. Texas boosters put that out there because they wanted Strong out. That's why all the info that hit the media was from the Texas side.

Fake news is what your boy Chip puts out so he can get some hits on his website. Surely you don't believe it since he is so consistently wrong?
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Relax Francis, it must be absolutely wonderful to always be right, never be wrong and such a fantastic know-it-all.
 
Texian said:
They make a suave for that butt hurt. I think you're over doing it here, fabricating and making it up as you go along. Just to set the record straight Chip Brown got it right here. Never a question Herman coveted the Texas job, worst kept secret in all of sports. However there was the question and a strong possibility of Texas screwing it up. I always thought LSU was after Fisher. Yes there were reports of Strong 's interest in Miami but Miami wasn't interested in him. Loved them some Richt. And just who was that guy that was sure LSU was a lock for Herman and Saban was going to Texas? Good Grief that was some FAKE News. Surely you didn't believe it?
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I don't see bah making up anything. He basically called this the other day when everyone was saying Herman to LSU was a done deal.
 
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Texian said:
Relax Francis, it must be absolutely wonderful to always be right, never be wrong and such a fantastic know-it-all.
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Hi pot, I'm kettle.

I'm not always right. Not even close and would never make such a claim. Just apparently right more often than your buddy Chip.
 
Any chance that Tom Herman will do us a solid and schedule an out-of-conference game against the Houston Cougars? Make it a home and road series (Texas versus Houston) and let's play each other often. That would help our strength of schedule if we play more potential ranked teams.

We had beaten #3 Oklahoma and #5 Louisville this season. That may have gotten us into the final four CFP rankings if we had ran the table and went undefeated. Perhaps even 1 loss may have gotten us the #4 seed, although that's stretching it as a non power five conference team.

We lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis which is a shame. We were heavily favored to win all three of those road games as well. Only 1 loss to Navy may have been good enough for us. As Navy is a legit 9-2 team that spanked SMU on the road, 75-31. The same SMU team that beat us 38-16.

Had we only had the one loss to Navy, I believe we would be ranked in the top 7 right now and very close to a CFP final four playoff ranking. Higher than a 2-loss Oklahoma team anyways, which is at 8 right now, and we had beaten them.

Or will Tom Herman not schedule an out-of-conference rivalry with Houston, in fears that we could beat big bad Texas and shatter their hopes of a final four playoff ranking? Like we may have done to Oklahoma this year.
 
Wonder who we hire next? That's my only interest in this topic right now. Who's next and how many young players leave now that Herman is gone.
 
WolverineFan said:
I don't see bah making up anything. He basically called this the other day when everyone was saying Herman to LSU was a done deal.
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I really don't have a problem with anything he has said. The way he said it and wanted to address it is a different story. As for the making up part, I did say there were reports of Strong having some interest in Miami, never said he was going to be the coach there and I never said Saban would be the next coach of Texas. That was made up.
 
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bah007 said:
Hi pot, I'm kettle.

I'm not always right. Not even close and would never make such a claim. Just apparently right more often than your buddy Chip.
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I started this Tom Herman thread for general information. Until you posted I only had cut n paste current articles about Herman. Out of no where you posted hold on, wait a minute with a definite burr in your butt and attitude. At first I thought it was because I didn't worship at the Church on the 40 acres. Now I know it is your extreme dislike for Chip Brown. Chip really strikes a nerve with you.
 
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Texian said:
go back to bed
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I'm mad at Herman for this BS. he is a "players" coach, who hugs and kisses his guys before games. Yet he couldn't even finish the season by coaching the bowl game before loading up his **** and hauling ass out of town.

Just another fake IMO.

Real question is when will CF realize Houston needs to be in a power 5 conference, that way this crap stops happening.
 
Hervoyel said:
Wonder who we hire next?
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Among those with reported interest:

UH OC Major Applewhite
UH DC Todd Orlando
WV HC Dana Holgorsen
Cal HC Sonny Dykes
Wash St HC Mike Leach
OU OC Lincoln Riley
Tulsa HC Phillip Montgomery
Miss St HC Dan Mullen
Ex Baylor & UH HC Art Briles
 
Lucky said:
Among those with reported interest:

UH OC Major Applewhite
UH DC Todd Orlando
WV HC Dana Holgorsen
Cal HC Sonny Dykes
Wash St HC Mike Leach
OU OC Lincoln Riley
Tulsa HC Phillip Montgomery
Miss St HC Dan Mullen
Ex Baylor & UH HC Art Briles
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I'd see about Dan Mullen, mike leach....maybe sonny dykes...those are the only 3 guys I think who might stick around for a while and not look at UH as a stepping stone gig b/c they're stepping out of power 5 conferences .......holgersen had his opportunity and left for what he thought was a better opportunity he should be black-balled.....art briles is toxic right now and he left for what he thought was a better opportunity..he should be black-balled from ever coming back.

I like Major and orlando to keep things going as they stand now....but I think they're like everyone else.... just looking at it from a stepping stone gig perspective.
 
Zero chance that Holgorsen, Leach, or Mullen are showing any interest unless they expect to get fired from their current job. Complain about the system all you want but those guys aren't leaving their Power 5 jobs to come coach at Houston. Dykes is a possibility, but only because he has been trying to get out of Cal for over a year. And that's not a guy UH should target anyway. He's 41-45 as a HC with twice as many losing seasons (4) as bowl appearances (2).

Briles is a fantastic coach but UH would be smart to stay away from that mess right now. Only a desperate school should be looking at him right now and UH is nowhere near that. Montgomery (Briles coaching tree) and Riley (Leach coaching tree) would be interesting choices worthy of at least an interview.

Orlando is coaching the bowl game. If UH has a good showing I think the best bet would be to name Orlando the HC and keep Applewhite as the OC. Both are young coaches on the rise that would keep continuity in the program and maintain the excitement and momentum going on there.
 
Lucky said:
Among those with reported interest:

Ex Baylor & UH HC Art Briles
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His career as a college football coach is done don't you think? What athletic director in this country is going to hire him after what happened at Baylor? Winning football games is not more important than the obligations that each University has of protecting its students.

The Baylor investigation had revealed that Art Briles knew about a gang rape involving some of his football players and he decided to ignore it and not report it. One of the female victims had also asked him for help, and he ignored her, laughed in her face, and then he mocked and belittled her over time. Up to 19 football players and 17 female victims were involved with various sexual assaults, and he didn't give a damn about what was going on.

He also gladly accepted a recruit from Boise State, with a criminal background that enjoyed hitting women and endangering the lives of his ex girlfriend and roommate, but he also ignored that and swept everything under the rug.

I wouldn't want Art Briles stepping foot within 10 miles of the University of Houston. I would stop supporting the Houston Cougars if he were hired. Plus he left us already back when he was still a respected head coach. No way I would want him back now that he's a scumbag.
 
Hervoyel said:
That's always what happens. He'll probably drag Oliver up there too. He'll sit a season and then play for his coach and who could blame him?
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I don't know if that's in his best interest if he wants to go pro as soon as possible. Especially if he's a projected top 10 pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. He may elect to play out his sophomore season here in Houston under our new head coach, and then enter the NFL Draft after one more year.

If he wants to transfer to Texas he'd have to sit out an entire year, which would hurt his NFL draft stock for 2018, and he would be sacrificing a lot just to re-unite with Tom Herman at Texas. He'd be delaying his entry into the NFL Draft to 2019, at the earliest, under that scenario.

And Ed Oliver tweeted yesterday that he wants to go pro already. Unfortunately he can't yet. He has to be two years removed from high school.

Ed Oliver @Edoliver_11
Im declaring for the draft fk it lmao

12:09 PM - 26 Nov 2016

So like I said, his best option is to play his Sophomore season at Houston next year. And then he can enter the 2018 NFL Draft as a likely top 10 pick. Maybe even top 5 if he has a monster sophomore season.

If Ed Oliver weren't a superstar freshman I could see him transferring to Texas and giving up a full year of football. But this is a guy that is nearly NFL ready. He's going to be a top pick at the next level. He's not going to transfer and ruin his potential "job and future" in the NFL.

More of Ed Oliver's tweets since yesterday. Pretty much confirms that he's going to stay (no surprise). From a business standpoint staying in Houston for his sophomore season makes the most sense for him. He's ready to make his millions in the NFL. It's best for his family.

Ed Oliver ‏@Edoliver_11 5 hours ago
They say 2 wrongs don't make a right

Ed Oliver ‏@Edoliver_11 18 hours ago
My city got me and i got my city i ain't going nowhere

Maybe, just maybe, the Houston Texans will be in position to draft Ed Oliver in the 2018 NFL Draft. But with J.J. Watt coming back for the 2017 season we aren't likely to be bad enough to be selecting that high in the first round. Unless Brock Osweiler continues to play poorly and our offense doesn't improve.
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/s...5-conference-tom-herman-renu-khator.html?_r=0

An out of state article is the best one I've read.

Texas was not keen to have Houston become a Big 12 rival. Why? Because the Houston area offers some of the most fertile recruiting territory in the country — and Texas has a long history of successfully recruiting star players from the region. At Houston, Herman had succeeded in recruiting some of those same players, winning over enough of them to build competitive teams. If Houston got into the Big 12 — especially with a coach like Herman — Texas had to worry whether it would start to regularly lose important recruits to the Cougars.
 
I'm curious what others have to say about this but doesn't it make sense to find a coach that has a similar offensive philosophy as the one Herman had? Trying to get the Coogs to play a pro-style, power running offensive would be a recipe for disaster given the types of players we currently have.

This is just based on what I remember with Lloyd Carr retiring at Michigan and Rich Rodriguez taking over. The latter brought it a spread, option offense and Michigan struggled mightily for a few years due to a lack of personnel.
 
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