This morning on ESPN's Cold Pizza

[swoldier]

Well they powers at be have decided this morning in their mock draft that more notably Jamarcus Russel goes numero uno to Oakland Brady Quinn at numero dos and the only pick that we all care about Adrian Peterson drops to the Texans at numero ocho. I think i would be happy with this pick seeing as how our top back is Ron Dayne and DD/DW Is coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. What say the Texans fans?

 

[joedinkle]

I want Landry in the 1st, and a RB in the second. Someone's lightning to Dayne's Thunder. There will still be quality backs there, and Saftey is a bigger need.

 

[Double Barrel]

Unless Kubiak completely breaks from the Denver formula, we won't be taking AP in the first round.

 

[O.G.]

Well they powers at be have decided this morning in their mock draft that more notably Jamarcus Russel goes numero uno to Oakland Brady Quinn at numero dos and the only pick that we all care about Adrian Peterson drops to the Texans at numero ocho. I think i would be happy with this pick seeing as how our top back is Ron Dayne and DD/DW Is coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. What say the Texans fans?

I would wait on making a decision on any running back until after the Indy Combines.

 

[Vinny]

Unless Kubiak completely breaks from the Denver formula, we won't be taking AP in the first round.

I think you put way to much into that concept around here. Denver never had many high picks like us but always took backs like Portis if the value was there early in the draft...I think this team will draft talent over filling needs with critical early picks going forward with Richard Smith.

 

[Errant Hothy]

Unless Kubiak completely breaks from the Denver formula, we won't be taking AP in the first round.

So do we just ignore the fact that Kubes tried to trade back inot the first round to grab a RB?

Yes, I know Denver never selected an RB early; but that does not mean Kubes would be opposed to. If I recall he wasn't running the drafts. Shannahan could have asked for Kubiak's input and he very well might have said let's grab stud RB propect at 22 but Denver decieded to go another direction.

The only draft we should use to evaluate Kubiak's draft philosophy is last years, and the evidence from said draft shows that Kubes my very well draft an RB in the first round.

 

[Yankee_In_TX]

2 things

it's jamarcus russell
I want Landry in the 1st, and a RB in the second. Someone's lightning to Dayne's Thunder. There will still be quality backs there, and Saftey is a bigger need.

OR CB. But one of those two

 

[beerlover]

I think you put way to much into that concept around here. Denver never had many high picks like us but always took backs like Portis if the value was there early in the draft...I think this team will draft talent over filling needs with critical early picks going forward with Richard Smith.

I like the sound of that

 

[jdm12]

Well they powers at be have decided this morning in their mock draft that more notably Jamarcus Russel goes numero uno to Oakland Brady Quinn at numero dos and the only pick that we all care about Adrian Peterson drops to the Texans at numero ocho. I think i would be happy with this pick seeing as how our top back is Ron Dayne and DD/DW Is coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. What say the Texans fans?

I saw the same thing last week on ESPN's 1st and 10. I have not decided if I would be for or against this pick. Don't get me wrong we do have other needs. However, can we afford to bypass on him if he is there.

I know Kubes is not going to count on DW coming back healty. Also I am not sure if Dayne is capable of being a feature back. Those two thoughts make me OK with the pick. Knowing that Kubes has been able to turn RB's off the street (so to speak) into 1000+ yard rushers would make me against it. What about his injuries? I did not get to see the bowl game which he made his return in. How did he look?

J

 

[Texans Horror]

I think you put way to much into that concept around here. Denver never had many high picks like us but always took backs like Portis if the value was there early in the draft...I think this team will draft talent over filling needs with critical early picks going forward with Richard Smith.

I'm expecting a volte-face when it comes to Kubiak's selection of running backs. He tried drafting a RB late last year because the team had Dominic Williams. One year later, and DW's status has lowered due to questions of work ethic and durability. I expect Kubes to take a new RB, Peterson or Lynch, whoever is available.

 

[tulexan]

Unless Kubiak completely breaks from the Denver formula, we won't be taking AP in the first round.

Well we were going to draft a RB with the first pick last year until Bush's agent became difficult and the housing scandal broke.

Plus like Hoth-Boy said, we were going to trade back into the first round to draft DeAngelo Williams before the Bills offered a better deal.

 

[Mr teX]

Well they powers at be have decided this morning in their mock draft that more notably Jamarcus Russel goes numero uno to Oakland Brady Quinn at numero dos and the only pick that we all care about Adrian Peterson drops to the Texans at numero ocho. I think i would be happy with this pick seeing as how our top back is Ron Dayne and DD/DW Is coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. What say the Texans fans?

What are u kidding? I want secondary help badly & wouldn't be unhappy if we went that route in the draft, but if AP falls to us, i think we have to take him for 2 reasons. 1, our scheme is designed around the run game so we would need a stud back & 2, we'd solidify our RB position.

Since this draft is deep in CB's & FS's we should be okay going to into the 2nd picking up a possible starter for our secondary...................... Of course all of this depends on what happens in Free Agency so...

 

[Zac]

Peterson seems like a more viable option than Reggie Bush for the Texans team.

Bush is a back that likes to dance and runs a lot. He is lightning quick, but in the NFL, he has yet to be the next Barry Sanders. In New Orleans, Deuce has gotten the workload at Running Back.

On the other hand, Peterson is more of a single cut and run hard running back. He is a powerful runner; who as his name is "All Day"; get stronger as the game goes on.

 

[Dr. Toro]

I've waffled on this, but if Peterson is there, the Texans have to take him, unless a more highly rated offensive player is still available. Calvin Johnson, JaMarcus Russell, and Joe Thomas are probably the only guys. Bottom line, the team needs an offensive identity, and I think Peterson can bring that. It's not necessarily a great investment of the dollars or the pick, and is very high risk, but he's an immediate impact player. Peterson is also a bone to throw at Houston fans, who've been a bit divided by the Carr/Young/Bush ordeal. There is one playmaker on the Texans offense, and I think Peterson can make it a much better unit immediately. This is the rare occasion where the interests of the fans and team needs unite. It's a risky pick.

I still think Peterson's too good of a fit for Cleveland to pass up. If Russell, Thomas, Johnson, and Peterson are gone, then I think it's clearly a BPA situation. At that point, it's more likely we're looking at a safety or a DT. I wouldn't mind a complementary DE for Mario. Synergy is a great thing, I can't tell if Freeney or Mathis is better, and who makes who better. It's a beautiful thing, and those 2 guys have made them a viable Super Bowl team... so I'm all for DE if there's an active speed rush guy there, worthy of the pick.

 

[nunusguy]

Well we were going to draft a RB with the first pick last year until Bush's agent became difficult and the housing scandal broke.

I've come to the conclusion that Reggie Bush is not and won't be a feature
running back in the NFL. 17 games this season, and only one game where he's
had 100 yards, and I saw parts of that game including a long drive by the Saints where Bush had multiple rushs. And each time he tried to dart outside.
On the other hand, I dunno if Bush can be a pure WR ? I've never seen him run a deep post across the middle, never even seen him run a fly pattern ?
I've seen him run little patterns from the slot, but thats it.
Peterson on the other hand is an NFL feature back. He's Deuce McCalister with a lot more speed. Really he's got Larry Johnson written all over him.
But even though he hasn't blow out a knee, his injuries are very troubling.
These guys jump head-first into the EZ all the time, but who ever heard of
any back suffering a serious injury from that little maneuver/celebration other than AD ?
If it weren't for the concerns about injury, I'd be good with AD. He'd really pumpup offseason interest, and would guarantee a 6th straight year of sell-outs. Might even divert attention from McNairs retention of DC, and you know the ole man would like that.

 

[AustinJB]

I have to weigh in on this issue...again.

In previous posts in several different threads, I have made my case for AP. As some have already posted, his so-called "durability concerns" are not warranted IMO. A broken collarbone and sprained ankle is NOT something that will affect the long-term productivity of a RB.

BTW, his collarbone injury wasn't b/c he dove into the endzone and was celebrating. If anyone watched that game or the highlights, you can see that he was fighting for yardage, slightly spinning, and a defender hit him low and he just carried his momentum into a dive in order to make into the endzone.

If he had blown out his knee a couple of times, torn an ACL, etc. then I too would consider it a high risk, but as it stands now, I think he is a superb talent and great football player. He reminds me of a Larry Johnson/Terrell Davis type RB....one-cut and then head north.

AP is definitely my 1st choice if he is there at #8, and I really think he will be. If we don't take him, the only other scenarios that I want to see are as follows:

-take Jamaal Anderson at #8. (equal value)
-trade down to pick up a FS and acquire an extra draft pick. (better value)

IMO, these two scenarios are the only two that have either equal or better value than the Peterson pick would.

 

[Dr. Toro]

I've come to the conclusion that Reggie Bush is not and won't be a feature
running back in the NFL. 17 games this season, and only one game where he's
had 100 yards, and I saw parts of that game including a long drive by the Saints where Bush had multiple rushs. And each time he tried to dart outside.
On the other hand, I dunno if Bush can be a pure WR ? I've never seen him run a deep post across the middle, never even seen him run a fly pattern ?
I've seen him run little patterns from the slot, but thats it.
Peterson on the other hand is an NFL feature back. He's Deuce McCalister with a lot more speed. Really he's got Larry Johnson written all over him.
But even though he hasn't blow out a knee, his injuries are very troubling.
These guys jump head-first into the EZ all the time, but who ever heard of
any back suffering a serious injury from that little maneuver/celebration other than AD ?
If it weren't for the concerns about injury, I'd be good with AD. He'd really pumpup offseason interest, and would guarantee a 6th straight year of sell-outs. Might even divert attention from McNairs retention of DC, and you know the ole man would like that.

Most people worry about ACL's and stuff like that. I actually worry more about ankle issues, collarbones, and general durability. Peterson's had issues with shoulder dislocations, which he had surgery for, a broken collarbone, and ankle sprains. That's all not unexpected for RB's, but the extent of it and his running style is a bit worrying. Some guys can just stay healthy, Peterson seems to be the type that's always got something nagging him... there's really no way to know. He is a great runner though, ideally he had have a little better feet.

 

[real]

I've come to the conclusion that Reggie Bush is not and won't be a feature
running back in the NFL. 17 games this season, and only one game where he's
had 100 yards, and I saw parts of that game including a long drive by the Saints where Bush had multiple rushs. And each time he tried to dart outside.
On the other hand, I dunno if Bush can be a pure WR ? I've never seen him run a deep post across the middle, never even seen him run a fly pattern ?
I've seen him run little patterns from the slot, but thats it.
Peterson on the other hand is an NFL feature back. He's Deuce McCalister with a lot more speed. Really he's got Larry Johnson written all over him.
But even though he hasn't blow out a knee, his injuries are very troubling.
These guys jump head-first into the EZ all the time, but who ever heard of
any back suffering a serious injury from that little maneuver/celebration other than AD ?
If it weren't for the concerns about injury, I'd be good with AD. He'd really pumpup offseason interest, and would guarantee a 6th straight year of sell-outs. Might even divert attention from McNairs retention of DC, and you know the ole man would like that.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make about Reggie...Who cares how he gets his yards? I'm not sure if you were really knocking him or not, but at this point I can almost gaurantee that all 32 teams in the NFL, including the Texans, would take Reggie Bush at this point...

 

[Lucky]

...but at this point I can almost gaurantee that all 32 teams in the NFL, including the Texans, would take Reggie Bush at this point...

With a $50 million price tag, I'm not so sure. I thought Bush would bring more to the table than he's shown thus far. Still, it's early. Of the top 10 '06 draft choices, only Vince Young has exceeded my expectations.

 

[nunusguy]

I don't understand the point you're trying to make about Reggie...Who cares how he gets his yards? I'm not sure if you were really knocking him or not, but at this point I can almost gaurantee that all 32 teams in the NFL, including the Texans, would take Reggie Bush at this point...

Reggie Bush was taken #2 last year for his ability to be an NFL running back.
Right ? But is he that player ? The Jags rookie Maurice Drew had 300-400 more rushing yards than Bush, while having to share snaps with Freddy Taylor (just as Bush had to share time with Deuce). And Drew was also an excellent receiver and return man as was Bush. Why is Bush a more valuable
player than Drew ? Because he's got a Heisman, gets wall-to-wall hype on ESPN, and went to USC instead of UCLA ? OH yea, and his name is Reggie Bush. While VY won the OROY award, the AP Sports writers made Drew the runner up with more votes for rookie-of-the-year than Bush. And Drew also finished with more total yards than Bush and scored 7 more TDs.
Actually, 5 rookies had more rushing yards than fellow rookie Bush.
Why would 32 teams today draft Bush over Drew if Drew was the more productive and more effective running back ?

 

[Vinny]

Reggie Bush was taken #2 last year for his ability to be an NFL running back.
Right ?

obviously not since the Saints use him in the slot and more like a wr than a rb.

 

[Vinny]

With a $50 million price tag, I'm not so sure. I thought Bush would bring more to the table than he's shown thus far. Still, it's early. Of the top 10 '06 draft choices, only Vince Young has exceeded my expectations.

Big plays like his run last week is what wins you games....heck, playoff games....you know, like the big plays we don't make. I'd take that any day. Heck, our staff said point blank that we need to find playmakers. LOL to that since we passed on the best play makers any recent draft has produced in years last draft.

 

[real]

With a $50 million price tag, I'm not so sure. I thought Bush would bring more to the table than he's shown thus far. Still, it's early. Of the top 10 '06 draft choices, only Vince Young has exceeded my expectations.

Bush has pretty much done what I thought he'd do...Make big plays, draw attention and be a threat all over the field...I love how the Saints use him....

 

[nunusguy]

obviously not since the Saints use him in the slot and more like a wr than a rb.

Just as the Texans probably miscalculated that Mario could be a big-time NFL edge rusher, the Saints probably miscalculated that Bush could be a
big-time NFL running back. Because trust me, a team just doesn't use the #2 overall on a slot receiver.

 

[real]

Why would 32 teams today draft Bush over Drew if Drew was the more productive and more effective running back ?

I don't understand why you have to look at things so black and white...

Add some color to your life...

Just because he doesn't fit into your personal box and opinion of "what a RB should be", he's not valuable ?

 

[real]

Just as the Texans probably miscalculated that Mario could be a big-time NFL edge rusher, the Saints probably miscalculated that Bush could be a
big-time NFL running back. Because trust me, a team just doesn't use the #2 overall on a slot receiver.

You're still trying to make him fit into a box...

I seriously...........seriously.............doubt the Saints regret their pick....

 

[TexansSeminole]

Big plays like his run last week is what wins you games....heck, playoff games....you know, like the big plays we don't make. I'd take that any day. Heck, our staff said point blank that we need to find playmakers. LOL to that since we passed on the best playmakers any draft has produced in years last draft.

Honestly, I think that is going to happen alot in the next 10 years. I think what people consider "once in a generation" players are going to be coming out of these drafts left and right for the next couple years.

 

[Vinny]

Just as the Texans probably miscalculated that Mario could be a big-time NFL edge rusher, the Saints probably miscalculated that Bush could be a
big-time NFL running back. Because trust me, a team just doesn't use the #2 overall on a slot receiver.

sure they do...the Saints just did it

Deuce was never planned to sit and they found a way to put two impact players in the offense and use Bush as a way to spread the defense out...and if you watch enough games you would know he isn't just a typical slot receiver.

 

[TexansSeminole]

I don't understand why you have to look at things so black and white...

Add some color to your life...

Just because he doesn't fit into your personal box and opinion of "what a RB should be", he's not valuable ?

I agree but for the money they paid him?? I suppose he got selected by the perfect team. If he were chosen around here I think there would be alot of unhappy people.

 

[Insideop]

Well they powers at be have decided this morning in their mock draft that more notably Jamarcus Russel goes numero uno to Oakland Brady Quinn at numero dos and the only pick that we all care about Adrian Peterson drops to the Texans at numero ocho. I think i would be happy with this pick seeing as how our top back is Ron Dayne and DD/DW Is coming back from a pretty serious knee injury. What say the Texans fans?

I still have mixed feelings about this. On one hand getting AP would help the running game, but on the other hand I think we have too many other pressing needs on this team besides RB. I'm hoping he's gone by the time we pick, and I'm really hoping we trade down and pick up 1 or 2 extra picks.

It's a long offseason and a lot can/will happen between now and draft day. So, hold on to your hats boys and girls, I think we're in for a wild ride!

 

[Lucky]

...I love how the Saints use him....

Of course. New Orleans has an All-Pro QB, Pro Bowl RB, and an outstanding receiving corps. So what if Reggie only averages 3.6 ypc and 8.4 ypr? He'll make a big play on occasion, and that can be the difference.

But, if Bush had put up those numbers in Houston, he'd be deemed a failure. Or excuses would be made for him. Blame the offensive line. Blame the QB. Blame the coaching staff, because they don't know how to utilize his talent. Bush couldn't be a complimentary player here. He'd have to be the man. I still think in time that he can become that. Right now, he's not.

 

[Vinny]

Of course. New Orleans has an All-Pro QB, Pro Bowl RB, and an outstanding receiving corps. So what if Reggie only averages 3.6 ypc and 8.4 ypr? He'll make a big play on occasion, and that can be the difference.

But, if Bush had put up those numbers in Houston, he'd be deemed a failure. Or excuses would be made for him. Blame the offensive line. Blame the QB. Blame the coaching staff, because they don't know how to utilize his talent. Bush couldn't be a complimentary player here. He'd have to be the man. I still think in time that he can become that. Right now, he's not.

The Saints started two or three rookies on offense and had a second year LT....they also have a first year QB and a rb coming off major knee surgery. Sure they are all good players but we passed on every single one of them except for Deuce (Brees was a FA last year too). The excuses why Bush did well and why he wouldn't work here is amazing. You guys are in serious denial.

 

[nunusguy]

he's not valuable ?

IMO he would not be as valuable to the Texans as Maurice Drew, or Joseph
Addai, or Lawrence Maroney.
And as far as this years Draft, he would not be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, except for my aforementioned reservations about ADs unfortunate propensity for injury.

 

[real]

Of course. New Orleans has an All-Pro QB, Pro Bowl RB, and an outstanding receiving corps. So what if Reggie only averages 3.6 ypc and 8.4 ypr? He'll make a big play on occasion, and that can be the difference.

But, if Bush had put up those numbers in Houston, he'd be deemed a failure. Or excuses would be made for him. Blame the offensive line. Blame the QB. Blame the coaching staff, because they don't know how to utilize his talent. Bush couldn't be a complimentary player here. He'd have to be the man. I still think in time that he can become that. Right now, he's not.

I'm going to plead the 5th...

I'm not prepared to say he can't be the man...I will say that he isn't now, but IMO, that has more to do with the talent he's surrounded by than anything else...

Think about it...He went from USC surrounded by great offensive talent to the Saints.....perfect situation for him, and honestly the hypotheticals don't matter...he is what he is, and right now he's playing his role pretty well....

 

[TexansSeminole]

But, if Bush had put up those numbers in Houston, he'd be deemed a failure. Or excuses would be made for him. Blame the offensive line. Blame the QB. Blame the coaching staff, because they don't know how to utilize his talent. Bush couldn't be a complimentary player here. He'd have to be the man. I still think in time that he can become that. Right now, he's not.

Kind of like how we made excuses for Carr all these years. Was expected to be the man, but failed and that took us 5 years to realize (some of us still have not realized it). Everyone says once in a lifetime type of players. I think you can make that argument for Vince but not for Reggie. Steve Slaton is going to be a junior next year and if you ask me he is better than Reggie. They both have the same running style it is just that Slaton does not have nearly as much talent around him. People will probably say the same thing about Slaton (that he is once in a lifetime) but there will probably be another RB with the same style coming out of college in the couple years after that.

Overall, I dont think Reggie is worth $50 million.

 

[Vinny]

IMO he would not be as valuable to the Texans as Maurice Drew, or Joseph
Addai, or Lawrence Maroney.
And as far as this years Draft, he would not be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, except for my aforementioned reservations about ADs unfortunate propensity for injury.

This is the brilliant logic as to why we didn't need a QB last year. We had one! Why draft John Elway when you already have Steve DeBerg? If you don't take talent in the top of the draft where you pay the elite money...you end up with a team that looks like ours. You can get a back any year.....special talent like Bush is something you better be sure about if you pass on him. Mario isn't that special.

 

[TexansSeminole]

This is the brilliant logic as to why we didn't need a QB last year. We had one! Why draft John Elway when you already have Steve DeBerg? If you don't take talent in the top of the draft where you pay the elite money...you end up with a team that looks like ours.

I agree with you here, but I can't agree when talking about Bush. If we paid him as much as we paid Mario, after this year, I would feel like we wasted alot of that money.

 

[Vinny]

I agree with you here, but I can't agree when talking about Bush. If we paid him as much as we paid Mario, after this year, I would feel like we wasted alot of that money.

well if you don't like explosive offensive playmakers...I understand. Hail pendry! ROLL TIDE!

 

[real]

IMO he would not be as valuable to the Texans as Maurice Drew, or Joseph
Addai, or Lawrence Maroney.
And as far as this years Draft, he would not be as valuable as Adrian Peterson, except for my aforementioned reservations about ADs unfortunate propensity for injury.

Who cares how he'd fit in with the Texans ?

You can say that about any player in any sport....

The point is he's playing his role, where he's at, and in that role he has proved to be very valuable...The Saints are a better offense when Reggie is on the field...

I'm not sure why he has to fit in with what all 32 teams are trying to do...He can only take it one team at a time...He's proven he can make the Saints better, if he ever goes to another team, we'll take it from there...

 

[TexansSeminole]

well if you don't like explosive offensive playmakers...I understand. Hail pendry! ROLL TIDE!

Ha...I like the ones that play their position. Imagine us trying to get Reggie to work out at running back all year. Would have been gruesome to watch with a few "OH YEAAAA GOOO" moments when he breaks free.

The guy just wouldn't fit around here. Vince is a different story.

 

[Vinny]

Ha...I like the ones that play their position. Imagine us trying to get Reggie to work out at running back all year. Would have been gruesome to watch with a few "OH YEAAAA GOOO" moments when he breaks free.

The guy just wouldn't fit around here. Vince is a different story.

good coaches build systems around the talents of the players. System drafting has shown us that Julius Peppers didn't fit here but Jason Babin did. I like the way you think...pass the kool-aide.

 

[nunusguy]

Big plays like his run last week is what wins you games

Do you mean that little 4-5 yard sprint for a TD around his right end after he tried to
go up the middle ? You don't need a first rounder to do that Vinny, dang our undrafted FA rookie Chris Taylor made virtually the same play in our last game
of the year, except that it was around the left side.

 

[real]

This is the brilliant logic as to why we didn't need a QB last year. We had one! Why draft John Elway when you already have Steve DeBerg? If you don't take talent in the top of the draft where you pay the elite money...you end up with a team that looks like ours. You can get a back any year.....special talent like Bush is something you better be sure about if you pass on him. Mario isn't that special.

To me this post basically hits it on the head...You don't pass on elite talent to go with lesser talent because you're worried about how they'll fit....As a coach you should be able to utilize a guy like RB wherever he goes...

 

[real]

Ha...I like the ones that play their position. Imagine us trying to get Reggie to work out at running back all year. Would have been gruesome to watch with a few "OH YEAAAA GOOO" moments when he breaks free.

The guy just wouldn't fit around here. Vince is a different story.

Why would we do that ? If we did that then the coach needs to be looked at...As a coach you should be able to properly use your talent...

Look at what N.O does with him....He'd probably be used in that manner wherever he went...

 

[TexansSeminole]

Who cares how he'd fit in with the Texans ?

You can say that about any player in any sport....

The point is he's playing his role, where he's at, and in that role he has proved to be very valuable...The Saints are a better offense when Reggie is on the field...

I'm not sure why he has to fit in with what all 32 teams are trying to do...He can only take it one team at a time...He's proven he can make the Saints better, if he ever goes to another team, we'll take it from there...

Well in thinking about if we would have drafted him, I do...it helps me.

You can think about if they would fit or not but you can't say that all players will not fit on our team...I dont understand what your sayin here.

I agree he is playing what now has become his role. He is doing it well...but the question is if that role is worth $50 million? IMO Deuce should make the $50 million with Reggie making whatever Deuce is getting now. They got it backwards IMO, but obviously they can't just switch it. Deuce will probably get unhappy pretty soon because they can't pay both Reggie and him big money.

I think people are just thinking about how he would be on the Texans...which is fair to think about considering we passed on him in the draft and he could easily be here.

 

[mexican_texan]

good coaches build systems around the talents of the players. System drafting has shown us that Julius Peppers didn't fit here but Jason Babin did. I like the way you think...pass the kool-aide.

Not with Free Agency, you have to be prepared to replace the players.

 

[TexansSeminole]

Why would we do that ? If we did that then the coach needs to be looked at...As a coach you should be able to properly use your talent...

Look at what N.O does with him....He'd probably be used in that manner wherever he went...

Dude NO has Deuce....we have who...Dayne??? If he wasn't our primary running back the fans in Houston would be going crazy at how our offensive coaching is so stupid they can't even play their best players.

 

[Vinny]

Do you mean that little 4-5 yard sprint for a TD around his right end after he tried to
go up the middle ? You don't need a first rounder to do that Vinny, dang our undrafted FA rookie Chris Taylor made virtually the same play in our last game
of the year, except that it was around the left side.

I guess you missed his big 25 yard run, his 14 yard run...and he did score....something we don't do much of....we are a team that STRUGGLES to score two TD's in a game and we all minimize and spin when guys like VY and Bush put the ball in the end zone.....ugh, you guys keep hating...I'll enjoy some good football by some good players.

 

[Vinny]

Not with Free Agency, you have to be prepared to replace the players.

What the heck does that mean? What does it have to do with drafting well? Of course you have to replace the players...well, except Carr. 24 Teams have switched their QB since Carr took his first snap.

 

[AustinJB]

Why would we do that ? If we did that then the coach needs to be looked at...As a coach you should be able to properly use your talent...

Look at what N.O does with him....He'd probably be used in that manner wherever he went...

You are probably right w/ that statement. I guess that is the main reason that I didn't want him.

Does he make plays? Sure, he makes the occasional play. But for a top 5 pick and $50 million, I want my running back to be a LT, an Earl Cambell, a Larry Johnson, a Barry Sanders type back.

Maybe that's just my personal preference, but I'd rather have this type of back....and I DEFINATELY don't think Bush will EVER be that type of workload back.

Bush is definitely valuable to the Saints offense, but I seriously doubt that he has lived up to the fans' expectations of the second coming love-child of Barry Sanders and Walter Payton. IMO, his value (a scat-back/slot receiver who is quick and can catch out of the backfield/return kicks, etc) could be matched by a 2nd or 3rd round RB on any given year.