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The First 3 Picks

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Cheroqui

Waterboy
I'm curious to know what you all think may be the first 3 picks selected come draft day and in what positions? Also I saw the Edgerrin James post too and would like to know if you think we'll fill a RB spot through NFL or a rookie out of college?
 
My signature says it all. And im not sure anyone knows what the Texans will do for RB. My gut tells me they will go with a rookie. Let him grow next year, and hopefully pull off a 5 year superbowl plan.
 
Let me throw out this wacky idea.

With the #1 pick, the 49ers will either draft Matt Lienhart or trade away the pick. I get the feeling, the Dolphins at #2 will go after Cedric Benson. Would the Texans be crazy enough to work out a deal with the 49ers and grab Benson with the 1st pick?
 
gwallaia said:
Let me throw out this wacky idea.

With the #1 pick, the 49ers will either draft Matt Lienhart or trade away the pick. I get the feeling, the Dolphins at #2 will go after Cedric Benson. Would the Texans be crazy enough to work out a deal with the 49ers and grab Benson with the 1st pick?
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No because it would cost us about 3 1sts to move up there.
 
Yes, the Texans would have to be crazy to do that. That would most likely cost us our first, second, and one of our third round picks in addition to next years first round pick. That is just a rough estimate. It is a lot to risk for someone that is very similar to Ricky Williams, both on and off the field.
 
You're gonna have to forgive me on this one but, I'm not that deep into all the players in college to know exactly who all those prospects are. If you don't mind telling me what positions those 3-5 guys play I would appreciate it. Thanks
 
hetero doxy said:
...i think the dolphins will consider trading their pick for philip rivers of the chargers...
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That would be interesting considering how much Marino & Spielman loved Rivers going into last year draft. And I would think the Chargers would be up for it as well. But San Diego would take a big hit against the cap by trading Rivers as his signing bonus proration would accelerate. Don't know if they could afford to trade him. Also, I'm not sure who will be running the show in Miami by then and what they think about Rivers.
 
hetero doxy said:
i think the dolphins will consider trading their pick for philip rivers of the chargers, and the chargers could pick derrick johnson #2.
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That would make sense, but the NFL cap is set up so that it is unlikely. If the Chargers trade Rivers all of his remaining unprorated signing bonus accelerates to this year, to the tune of $12.1 mil. Not impossible since they have $21 mil of cap space next year, but they will have to resign Brees or franchise him ($10 mil) as well because he is an UFA.
 
the decision to franchise or not to depends upon how much success he & the rest of his teamates enjoy the rest of the year into the playoffs. Its impossible to tell at this point, maybe they have odds in Vegas :heh:
 
Cheroqui said:
You're gonna have to forgive me on this one but, I'm not that deep into all the players in college to know exactly who all those prospects are. If you don't mind telling me what positions those 3-5 guys play I would appreciate it. Thanks
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1. Ahmad Brooks, OLB, Virginia (Sophmore)
2. Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas (Junior)
3. Ben Wilkerson, C, L.S.U. (Senior)
3. Orien Harris, DT, Miami(FL) (Junior)
4. Frank Gore, RB, Miami(FL) (Junior)
 
I was surfing some the draft sites and The Great Blue North has us taking Cadillac Williams with our first pick. I don't know if he'll last the long but I'll be happy if they do take him. Some other site has us taking Rodrique Wright, DT, out of UT.
 
If the Texans were to take a RB in the 1st and both Williams and Brown were available I would lay money on them taking Ronnie Brown--bigger, already knows how to block (played FB some), soft hands, no significant injuries and as fast or faster.
 
DC_ROCK said:
1. Ahmad Brooks, OLB, Virginia (Sophmore)
2. Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas (Junior)
3. Ben Wilkerson, C, L.S.U. (Senior)
3. Orien Harris, DT, Miami(FL) (Junior)
4. Frank Gore, RB, Miami(FL) (Junior)
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Wow, I'm glad you're not a GM

A) Brooks has said he's staying
B) Scott has said he's staying
C) Wilkerson had season ending surgery and wont be ready for awhile
D) Orien had a terrible year and is staying
E) Frank Gore will be staying
 
infantrycak said:
If the Texans were to take a RB in the 1st and both Williams and Brown were available I would lay money on them taking Ronnie Brown--bigger, already knows how to block (played FB some), soft hands, no significant injuries and as fast or faster.
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Ronnie Brown is who I want...
 
texansfan88 said:
Wow, I'm glad you're not a GM

A) Brooks has said he's staying
B) Scott has said he's staying
C) Wilkerson had season ending surgery and wont be ready for awhile
D) Orien had a terrible year and is staying
E) Frank Gore will be staying
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haha, ok Texasfan88. Can you back up any of this talk? Or is that all you have?
 
1st: TE Heath Miller/ DE>OLB David Pollack/ DE>OLB Dan Cody
2nd ILB Barrett Ruud/ DT Haloti Ngata/ OG David Baas
3rd DT>DE Dusty Dvoracek/ ILB Adam Seward/ OT Daniel Loper
3rd OT Rob Petitti/ OT Michael Roos/ S Darnell Bing

That could change with injuries and FAs
 
This is a weak draft class and our mid 1st pick will be the quality of last year's second rounder. I'd go with the safest pick instead of the risky boom-or-bust type selection if we cannot find a way to trade up or trading for another 2005 first round pick. I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of dud's in this draft. I'm not married to a specific position for this reason. I just want the pick to be NFL starter quality.

As far as Ced Benson goes, his draft stock is directly tied into his 40 time at the combine or in individual workouts. That said, he is the same back either way, but the fan and media speculation will settle after he runs.
 
I have mentioned Roth before as an 3rd round alternative to a first round OLB, but I didn't get to see many of his games. Where do you think he would fit best for the Texans? He seems like a natural LB pressed into playing with his hand on the ground due his tremendous size - bigger than #93. Does anyone know how fast Babin or Wong run a 40, for a little reference?

OT: who cares about 40 times for guys that weigh 250+? I am much more interested in 5yd 10yd and 20yd burst for a big fella.
 
1st Thomas Davis- can play FS or SS; upgrade over Earl
2nd Barret Rudd-ILB
3rd Anthony Bryant-NT
3rd Reggie Brown-WR

Davis is a sure tacker and hits hard. I don't know anything about Rudd except that he is ranked as one of the best ILB's coming out. Bryant weighs 336 and Alabama had one of the best defenses in the country this year. Reggie Brown has good hands, not really a deep threat though.

Chances of the Texans drafting any of these guys: probably zero :thud:
 
hetero
can we get him with a second?
will he draw too much attention at the combine?
I did not mean to slight him in anyway, he seems perfect for our team. I just don't want anyone else to want him (specifically the Devil's two favorite teams: Steelers and Patriots)
 
hetero doxy said:
umm, matt roth is #10 overall on mel kiper's big board. he is a top-half first-round talent- one of the finest to ever play his position and an absolute joy to watch. if the texans end up trading down and then get him, then i predict he'd be the most popular player on the defense almost day 1. he's a very, very special player.
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Trade up or down? We are probably going to be drafting around 15th. We would have to move up if Roth is #10 overall.

BTW, down with the Cowboys. We need them to lose to increase the value of that 3rd round pick.
 
hetero doxy said:
one of the finest to ever play his position and an absolute joy to watch... he's a very, very special player.
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Are you saying DE or OLB?
I am worried some folks - not me - will say too small for end, too big for OLB?
I am not being contentious, if that is how it sounds.
 
I almost asked if he had any background in wresting in my last post. So I look over on Hawkeyesports and what to my wondering eyes did appear:

High school honors - - Named to numerous prep all-America teams as a linebacker and fullback . . . named Illinois High School Athlete of the Year by the Chicago Tribune . . . lettered four years in football at Willowbrook . . . named to the ESPN and Reebok first all-America teams as a senior . . . all-conference as a junior . . . as a senior he was also named first team all-state and conference Defensive Player of the Year . . . football captain and MVP as a senior . . . Career - - junior and senior stats include 271 tackles, 52 tackles for loss and 15 quarterback sacks . . . team had a 15-7 record his final two years . . . defensive stats as a senior show 161 tackles, 23 tackles for loss, four quarterback sacks, an incredible 12 blocked kicks and 10 forced fumbles . . . rushed for 307 yards and four touchdowns as a senior . . . lettered four times in wrestling, earning state title as a senior with perfect 31-0 record.


We should probably radio in our decision so the Big Guys are on the same page come Draft Day

I'll take him over Ahmad Brooks anyday
 
What about this cat from Oklahoma, someone may have mentioned him but is he out next year? and what about a TE?
 
Cheroqui said:
What abou this cat from Oklahoma, someone may have mentioned him but is he out next year? and what about a TE?
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If your talking about Dan Cody (DE), he is a senior and will be in the draft. I just don't see us drafting another first round DE/OLB. As far as TE's go I only know that Heath Miller(UVA) is the best and he is a junior.
 
I want Derrick Brooks with our #1. But if he wasnt available and Ronnie Brown was.. I would jump on Brown. But I doubt either of them will be available unless we trade up. WHICH may be possible if we trade up to like 7 or 8 or something.

at #2 and #3.. I dunno.. its still too early.. im just thinking about our #1.
 
About getting a DE to play OLB for us.. havent we had enough of that? im getting tired of players having to learn a new position with us.. id like to get a player on defense that actually knows how to play his position for once.

We dont need huge LBs.. you can use them in a 3/4 but regular size ones work too.
 
texansfan88 said:
I did back it up...didn't you read where it said "they've said they're STAYING"
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Its called a reference. Where did you read it/hear it? Dont just tell me that they are staying in school and expect me to believe you.
 
I work for Insidetheleague.com based here in Htown. That's where I get most of the info I give, but also get it from friends in the business. If you are wanting to pay 50/year, I'll be glad to give you all the info you need
 
wags said:
If your talking about Dan Cody (DE), he is a senior and will be in the draft. I just don't see us drafting another first round DE/OLB. As far as TE's go I only know that Heath Miller(UVA) is the best and he is a junior.
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No I meant this guy from Oklahoma (not unless it's Alabama), no I'm 99% sure it's Oklahoma #28 Peterson is it? or Perkins one of those guys. As a matter of fact they both have #28 beleive it or not. One is a cornerback and one is a hlafback. I meant the halfback, and that's if he's leaving.
 
If you mean Adrian Peterson, then he is merely a Freshman (a true freshman i think). He won't be eligible for another 2 years.
 
TexasJedi said:
If you mean Adrian Peterson, then he is merely a Freshman (a true freshman i think). He won't be eligible for another 2 years.
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Yep true freshman, ha ha people are really reaching arent they. We should pull an NBA and start looking at High school seniors, only 4 more years until they are eligible!!
 
well then, maybe with the two third rounders we should get WR Danny Amendola (true freshman in Lubbock) from the Woodands and QB>WR Todd Walker (fastest D1 player-caliber in Texas) from Pflugerville
 
Casserly said last year that the next two years Drafts would be devoted to the defense. He pretty much stuck to that in the 2004 Draft, so I would say we go out and 1),get a FA RB, 2), let DD try to go another year, or 3), take a flyer on a rookie in the 4th, 5th, or 6th round. I would think the latter would be the most likely.
 
NoBullTexan said:
Casserly said last year that the next two years Drafts would be devoted to the defense.
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I guess we could be looking at a:

1. Thomas Davis / Marcus Spears
2. Justin Tuck / Brodney Pool
 
Cheroqui said:
I'm curious to know what you all think may be the first 3 picks selected come draft day and in what positions? Also I saw the Edgerrin James post too and would like to know if you think we'll fill a RB spot through NFL or a rookie out of college?
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a little clarification please.........do you mean the first three picks of the Texans or the first three picks in the draft :confused:

NFL overall
1. QB- Aaron Rogers
2. RB- Cedric Benson
3. QB- Matt Leinart

Texans
1. DT- Marcus Spears, LSU Tigers
2. C - Ben Wilkerson, LSU Tigers
3. ILB- Marcus Lawrence (Dunta's teammate from South Carolina)
3. TE- Kevin Everett, Miami Hurricanes
 
Vinny said:
If Cedric Benson is the number 2 overall I'll eat my hat (although I don't wear one).
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Have to second that thought. You have to go back 10 years to find a back taken that high (and look how that turned out). The trend the last few years is to take them lower and lower--2004 26th, 2003 23rd, 2002 16th, 2001 5th (LaDainian Tomlinson), 2000 5th (Jamal Lewis), 1999 4th (Edgerrin James) 5th (Ricky Williams).
 
Cheroqui said:
Yeah, when I asked the question, I meant what do you think the first 3 the Texans will pick, and at what positions.
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In no particular round order because IMO Casserly doesn't draft that way, i.e. forcing needs:

C, ILB, CB, DT
 
Benson MIGHT be the second RB taken in the draft (I think R. Brown will be) but certainly not the second player taken in the draft. IMO, the team that does take him will wind up with a bust. He a good power runing back at the college level, but he will be exposed as to slow at the pro level.
 
man, I would love to have Ronnie Brown
outside of an imperfect health record, what are knocks on this guy?
 
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