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Texans Players (and other teams' players) Have Tested Positive for COVID-19

CloakNNNdagger

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This is another example why I just cannot see sports resuming at NBA, etc.
Unfortunately, this is what happens when nonmedical people (in this case the Florida governor) report medical findings/statistics.

I'll share this bulletin I received earlier with you.

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CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Maybe the plan then is to remove a positive test participant while testing others and continue on?
That wouldn't work. The others exposed by that positive player may not test positive for several days to a week, yet be infectious days before that...........not to mention, test results will lag for several days more.............and if negative, 30% could still be positive and should be tested once again by another test to either confirm that it is a true negative or indeed a positive............extending the time even more to know the exact status of a player potentially to ~2 weeks.
 
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Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
Btw, was nice of Carr to tell me to go **** myself three or four times in his drunken rage..it all gets scrubbed by perhaps you then no apology from him or another word spoken. That's wrong man.

I did not see that …. and it wasn't reported. I don't know who took action on it or what the consequences were.

If you don't report it , I can't do anything about it such as warnings / temp bans.

#reportasshatterymatters.
 

KA4Texan

Weirdo Mode Engaged
Contributor's Club
Your post is the problem T, the masks do not stop the virus. It has zero impact other than a placebo and as Doc said encouraging other folks to distance and wash hands; both of which does impact the spread. The virus ends when people stop doing things like partying, hanging at beach and protesting in groups. Stupid is what spreads virus not the absence of a mask.
Wheter it does or does not. Even IF the effects are minor at best... why NOT take every possible precaution to help the situation?

We should all do everything we can to prevent as much spread as possible, mask, distance and anything else.

I believe the odds of needing my seat belt are very low. Yet, I put on my seat belt even though I don't plan to need it.

IF it stops just one person from being infected out of millions. Yes, a mask is not that effective.... but how many might that one person have infected?

Little things can make a huge difference in the long term.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
McClain: NFL facing many questions on coronavirus
John McClain , Houston Chronicle June 16, 2020 Updated: June 16, 2020 8:39 p.m.


Positive tests for COVID-19 could be as common as hamstring injuries in NFL locker rooms this season.

We’d have to be naïve or foolish to believe the Texans and Cowboys are the only teams with players who have recently tested positive for the virus. Their recent cases are just the ones leaked to the NFL Network.

NFL teams in general, and their players in particular, aren’t immune to the coronavirus. When they return for training camp, the Texans and Cowboys have to be especially vigilant because they practice and play in a state that continues to set daily records for positive tests and hospitalizations.

The Lone Star State set a record Tuesday with more than 2,500 COVID-19 patients in hospitals, which is almost 67 percent more than on Memorial Day.

Health experts said many of the patients are younger and healthier but “still susceptible to serious illness or death from the disease.”

Gov. Greg Abbott blames the spike in positive tests on too many young people being careless. Players are young people, and even though the Texans’ medical experts have told them what to do and what not to do during these unprecedented times, you know all of them are not following that advice. When they return for training camp, no telling how many will test positive, including some who are asymptomatic.

Teams are looking for guidelines from the NFL and have so many questions that haven’t been answered. Commissioner Roger Goodell said during an ESPN interview Monday night the league knows there will be positive tests and will follow every protocol in dealing with them.

Last week, the league sent guidelines to every team. Baltimore coach John Harbaugh said it would be impossible to follow all of them. Other coaches agree with Harbaugh but haven’t said so publicly for fear of rebuke from the NFL.
The Texans have one of the best medical staffs in the NFL, and they’ll take every precaution when players return for training camp.

The Texans don’t own NRG Stadium, so they can’t make every adjustment they’ll need to make. They share the building with the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, and there are other events in the stadium out of the Texans’ control.

One guideline that is going to be impossible to follow is keeping players 6 feet apart. Their locker room at the stadium is huge, but it’s too small for a training camp roster of 90 players.

Additional lockers have to be set up in the middle of the room, and players trip over each other and their gear trying to get to the shower, weight room and training room. It’s so crowded reporters aren’t allowed inside until the roster is reduced to 53 before the season.

The Texans can’t set up lockers outside in the hallway because they’d risk getting run over by golf carts, trucks and the occasional forklift that goes by.

The meeting rooms at the stadium are just large enough for each position group. Asking the offensive linemen to stay 6 feet apart in a cramped room isn’t feasible. Do they meet outside in the heat and humidity? Of course not.

Perhaps coach Bill O’Brien and his staff will take players into the practice bubble and spread them around. For instance, offensive linemen could meet on one end and receivers on another. Quarterbacks and specialists require the smallest space.

After getting advice from their medical experts, O’Brien and executive vice president of football operations Jack Easterby have to figure out the safest way to have meetings and practice with the minimal amount of exposure to the virus. They know positive tests are inevitable, and they’ll deal with them by following league guidelines.

The NFL is a game of adjustments, and this season is going to require flexibility like no other.

The league says it wants to test the players and everyone who works around them at least three times a week. There are so many variables that have to be determined.

What if Deshaun Watson tests positive before the first game at Kansas City? He’ll be pulled away and quarantined until he has two negative tests that allow him to return.

What if Watson’s positive result turns out to be a false-positive? Experts say almost 30 percent of tests can be false-positives.
Can a player who tests positive get a second opinion like on an injury diagnosis? What if Watson tests positive on Monday but gets a test outside the NFL that comes back negative? What do the Texans do?

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McClain has again mispoken.................the 30% figure is for false negative tests (much more troublesome), not false positives.
 
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badboy

Hall of Fame
Wheter it does or does not. Even IF the effects are minor at best... why NOT take every possible precaution to help the situation?

We should all do everything we can to prevent as much spread as possible, mask, distance and anything else.

I believe the odds of needing my seat belt are very low. Yet, I put on my seat belt even though I don't plan to need it.

IF it stops just one person from being infected out of millions. Yes, a mask is not that effective.... but how many might that one person have infected?

Little things can make a huge difference in the long term.
The issue I have is making it mandatory; if anyone wishes to wear one--great just don't force me to. How many vehicular accidents occur daily? How many people in USA are tested positive and how many of those have any deaths? As one who lived prior to the enactment of seat belt law I recall a lot of folks disagreeing and refusing to wear them. It took years before it became a thing to do without complaint. It is a proven fact that seat belts keep us safe; not so for masks.

I don't think a mask has or will keep anyone from being infected; as I said it has zero impact on stopping virus. OTOH, the mandatory wearing of a mask has caused loss of employment.
 

OptimisticTexan

Hall of Fame
I wear a mask when I'm within 6 ft of other people. In all honesty, I've probably already had C19. I've had sinus problems my whole life, allergies I wasn't aware of, and I'm a Type II Diabetic. As many doctors will confirm, a lot of folks have already had C19 and never knew it. One thing I know for certain, I'm not taking any stinking vaccine without first being tested to check if I haven't already had C19. I think my immune system did its job and I'm not looking for a vaccine to do what its already done.

As for baseball and football.....I'd be happy to wear a mask in order to attend a game.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I wear a mask when I'm within 6 ft of other people. In all honesty, I've probably already had C19. I've had sinus problems my whole life, allergies I wasn't aware of, and I'm a Type II Diabetic. As many doctors will confirm, a lot of folks have already had C19 and never knew it. One thing I know for certain, I'm not taking any stinking vaccine without first being tested to check if I haven't already had C19. I think my immune system did its job and I'm not looking for a vaccine to do what its already done.

As for baseball and football.....I'd be happy to wear a mask in order to attend a game.
I've tried to always caution against grabbing onto very questionable previously presented conclusions regarding COVID immunity. These new findings may require rethinking of the COVID-19 concepts of antibodies, vaccines and immunity. https://www.texanstalk.com/threads/official-covid-19-coronavirus-2020.114969/page-33#post-3073864
 
The issue I have is making it mandatory; if anyone wishes to wear one--great just don't force me to. How many vehicular accidents occur daily? How many people in USA are tested positive and how many of those have any deaths? As one who lived prior to the enactment of seat belt law I recall a lot of folks disagreeing and refusing to wear them. It took years before it became a thing to do without complaint. It is a proven fact that seat belts keep us safe; not so for masks.

I don't think a mask has or will keep anyone from being infected; as I said it has zero impact on stopping virus. OTOH, the mandatory wearing of a mask has caused loss of employment.
I just disagree with this all together. Sounds like my kids saying “I was going to do it until you told me I had to”. You really didn’t want to wear a seatbelt because it was mandatory? Should we have no laws because this is a free country? I just don’t get this take. It is a fact that one of the ways this disease is spread is by infectious droplets flowing through the air and getting into the mucus membranes of non infected people. If you’re sick and wearing a mask you are less likely to infect somebody else. How do you not see that? About 10,000 people a year die as a result of drinking and driving (a fraction of coved 19). So would you argue that it is an acceptable loss and driving sober should be optional? You may be a very good, smart and productive person but this opinion comes off as selfish and somewhat juvenile. We just don’t see eye to eye on this and I really don’t get the big deal about wearing a mask as a matter of precaution being a requirement.
 
I just disagree with this all together. Sounds like my kids saying “I was going to do it until you told me I had to”. You really didn’t want to wear a seatbelt because it was mandatory? Should we have no laws because this is a free country? I just don’t get this take. It is a fact that one of the ways this disease is spread is by infectious droplets flowing through the air and getting into the mucus membranes of non infected people. If you’re sick and wearing a mask you are less likely to infect somebody else. How do you not see that? About 10,000 people a year die as a result of drinking and driving (a fraction of coved 19). So would you argue that it is an acceptable loss and driving sober should be optional? You may be a very good, smart and productive person but this opinion comes off as selfish and somewhat juvenile. We just don’t see eye to eye on this and I really don’t get the big deal about wearing a mask as a matter of precaution being a requirement.
I spelled Covid 19 wrong.
 

Mangler

Veteran
I just disagree with this all together. Sounds like my kids saying “I was going to do it until you told me I had to”. You really didn’t want to wear a seatbelt because it was mandatory? Should we have no laws because this is a free country? I just don’t get this take. It is a fact that one of the ways this disease is spread is by infectious droplets flowing through the air and getting into the mucus membranes of non infected people. If you’re sick and wearing a mask you are less likely to infect somebody else. How do you not see that? About 10,000 people a year die as a result of drinking and driving (a fraction of coved 19). So would you argue that it is an acceptable loss and driving sober should be optional? You may be a very good, smart and productive person but this opinion comes off as selfish and somewhat juvenile. We just don’t see eye to eye on this and I really don’t get the big deal about wearing a mask as a matter of precaution being a requirement.
What a ridiculous analogy...
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I just disagree with this all together. Sounds like my kids saying “I was going to do it until you told me I had to”. You really didn’t want to wear a seatbelt because it was mandatory? Should we have no laws because this is a free country? I just don’t get this take. It is a fact that one of the ways this disease is spread is by infectious droplets flowing through the air and getting into the mucus membranes of non infected people. If you’re sick and wearing a mask you are less likely to infect somebody else. How do you not see that? About 10,000 people a year die as a result of drinking and driving (a fraction of coved 19). So would you argue that it is an acceptable loss and driving sober should be optional? You may be a very good, smart and productive person but this opinion comes off as selfish and somewhat juvenile. We just don’t see eye to eye on this and I really don’t get the big deal about wearing a mask as a matter of precaution being a requirement.
My not wearing mask is not an act of defiance. They do not stop virus. Yes if someone coughs, some of virus in phlegm or sneeze can be arrested but the virus in the "mist" or a breath is not stopped. It just isn't. I will not insult you if you choose to wear one. I would also be ok with and use soap and hand sanitizer. Masks are not a precaution as they do not work. I can't wear mask due to claustrophobia. It is not a choice.

Curious, do you wear gloves?

Cars I had pre 1968 federal law did not have seatbelt. Unlike several of those I knew who refused, I saw value that they worked, masks do not.

I do not think wearing a mask should be a law. Why did you ask if all laws should not be because of that? If I said marijuana should be decriminalized that would not mean I think all drugs should be. That comment sounds more like what your kids might say. Appreciate the discussion.
 
My not wearing mask is not an act of defiance. They do not stop virus. Yes if someone coughs, some of virus in phlegm or sneeze can be arrested but the virus in the "mist" or a breath is not stopped. It just isn't. I will not insult you if you choose to wear one. I would also be ok with and use soap and hand sanitizer. Masks are not a precaution as they do not work. I can't wear mask due to claustrophobia. It is not a choice.

Curious, do you wear gloves?

Cars I had pre 1968 federal law did not have seatbelt. Unlike several of those I knew who refused, I saw value that they worked, masks do not.

I do not think wearing a mask should be a law. Why did you ask if all laws should not be because of that? If I said marijuana should be decriminalized that would not mean I think all drugs should be. That comment sounds more like what your kids might say. Appreciate the discussion.
Thank you for your candor. I respect your points and your response. No I don’t wear gloves. It makes sense that you follow what you know makes sense. That’s hard to argue with. Seatbelts work so you use them. I guess I was talking about all laws because it seemed like you were saying you didn’t like things being mandated. So I kinda generalized that to all laws.

If people had started wearing seatbelts before they were convinced it would make a difference, it would have made a difference. I appreciate both your point of view and the fact that for you and others it’s not a choice. Nice talkin.
 
I just disagree with this all together. Sounds like my kids saying “I was going to do it until you told me I had to”. You really didn’t want to wear a seatbelt because it was mandatory? Should we have no laws because this is a free country? I just don’t get this take. It is a fact that one of the ways this disease is spread is by infectious droplets flowing through the air and getting into the mucus membranes of non infected people. If you’re sick and wearing a mask you are less likely to infect somebody else. How do you not see that? About 10,000 people a year die as a result of drinking and driving (a fraction of coved 19). So would you argue that it is an acceptable loss and driving sober should be optional? You may be a very good, smart and productive person but this opinion comes off as selfish and somewhat juvenile. We just don’t see eye to eye on this and I really don’t get the big deal about wearing a mask as a matter of precaution being a requirement.
My first unlike. I made it. Can move past newbie now? Thanks Mangler.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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As relates to wearing gloves, this has never been recommended for every day activities like shopping, handling shopping carts, using ATM machines, etc. Not even the CDC has ever recommended the use of gloves outside of during the cleaning and caring for COVID patients. General wearing of gloves may even contribute to the spread of the virus. The best way to protect yourself from COVID when running errands and after going out is to regularly wash your hands with soap and water or use hand sanitizer...............and most importantly, avoid touching your face until you do.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Thank you for your candor. I respect your points and your response. No I don’t wear gloves. It makes sense that you follow what you know makes sense. That’s hard to argue with. Seatbelts work so you use them. I guess I was talking about all laws because it seemed like you were saying you didn’t like things being mandated. So I kinda generalized that to all laws.

If people had started wearing seatbelts before they were convinced it would make a difference, it would have made a difference. I appreciate both your point of view and the fact that for you and others it’s not a choice. Nice talkin.
I am hoping this pandemic and the racial strife leads to better things such as awareness if not 100% understanding. More working together proactively rather than reactionary. I think most interpersonal conflict is primarily because of lack of knowledge. Selfishness plays a role in most things but can be overcome.

Discussion is the most significant for me on this MB.
 

spek

Hopeless Wanderer
My question is if masks do nothing at all then why do doctors and nurses wear them during procedures and surgeries, there would be no point.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
I am hoping this pandemic and the racial strife leads to better things such as awareness if not 100% understanding. More working together proactively rather than reactionary. I think most interpersonal conflict is primarily because of lack of knowledge. Selfishness plays a role in most things but can be overcome.

Discussion is the most significant for me on this MB.
The pandemic combined with the protests is a great experiment in seeing just how deadly the Covid-19 is.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
My question is if masks do nothing at all then why do doctors and nurses wear them during procedures and surgeries, there would be no point.
We surgeons wear masks in surgery mainly to address bacteria, not viruses. The COVID virus measures ~.125 microns in size. The smallest bacteria are about 0.4 micron (one millionth of a meter) in diameter, with a range typically of 0.5–5.0 microns. while viruses range in size from 0.02 to 0.25 micron. Surgical masks (not the N95, which before COVID has never been used in surgery except in extremely rare circumstances) rarely filter particles smaller than 5 micrometres in diameter and their filtering efficiency varies from 14% to 99%. Nevertheless, face masks do filter a great deal of gross debris.

Studies have shown that they start significantly losing their filtering capabilities at ~20 minutes, and would ideally need to be changed every 20 minutes. Obviously this is not done. Even manufactures have stated that they should preferably be changed every hour. And, that is also obviously not done, although a large portion of surgeries may not last longer than ~1 hour. I have performed many surgeries that commonly last more than 8-12 hours and some that have lasted as long as ~24 hours.

But also keep in mind that the surgical suites I operate in have many other strict controls, not afforded in the "real world," that minimize the opportunity for infection............the rooms are "sterilized" between surgeries; the full room air exchange (replacement) time is short and continuously filtered; the room air is under positive pressure so that outside hallway air from opening the door to the surgical suite is not allowed to mix with air in the surgical suite; the temperature and the humidity levels are carefully optimized to minimize growth and spread of germs; and surgical caps, gowns and gloves further decrease the risks. Not one factor, but ALL of these measures together serve to contribute to the successful mitigation of infections...........in surgery.
 

CWTexansFan

King Deplorable
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We surgeons wear masks in surgery mainly to address bacteria, not viruses. The COVID virus measures ~.125 microns in size. The smallest bacteria are about 0.4 micron (one millionth of a meter) in diameter, with a range typically of 0.5–5.0 microns. while viruses range in size from 0.02 to 0.25 micron. Surgical masks (not the N95, which before COVID has never been used in surgery except in extremely rare circumstances) rarely filter particles smaller than 5 micrometres in diameter and their filtering efficiency varies from 14% to 99%. Nevertheless, face masks do filter a great deal of gross debris.

Studies have shown that they start significantly losing their filtering capabilities at ~20 minutes, and would ideally need to be changed every 20 minutes. Obviously this is not done. Even manufactures have stated that they should preferably be changed every hour. And, that is also obviously not done, although a large portion of surgeries may not last longer than ~1 hour. I have performed many surgeries that commonly last more than 8-12 hours and some that have lasted as long as ~24 hours.

But also keep in mind that the surgical suites I operate in have many other strict controls, not afforded in the "real world," that minimize the opportunity for infection............the rooms are "sterilized" between surgeries; the full room air exchange (replacement) time is short and continuously filtered; the room air is under positive pressure so that outside hallway air from opening the door to the surgical suite is not allowed to mix with air in the surgical suite; the temperature and the humidity levels are carefully optimized to minimize growth and spread of germs; and surgical caps, gowns and gloves further decrease the risks. Not one factor, but ALL of these measures together serve to contribute to the successful mitigation of infections...........in surgery.
Can't they get in through the ocular cavities?
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
Can't they get in through the ocular cavities?
I use a continuous fluid and continuous air suction in or around the wounds to evacuate a great portion of contaminants potentially escaping from the wound. If the surgery is expected to be grossly bloody, see through mask spash guard shields (a built in part of the top of the surgical masks.........see below), protective googles or at least glasses are worn to protect from splashes. Again, as a surgeon, our greatest concern is bacterial, not viral transmission.

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steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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I can't believe you just wrote that. You would try to equate whether the shutdown was done/necessary mainly on the basis that masks worked or didn't work? I hope that after all the COVID-19 information that has been presented, that is not what you've come away with.
The economy needed to be shut down to flatten the curve. It worked.

Can't wait to see the results of the protests as related to the new Covid-19 outbreaks.

Unfortunately I think the Covid-19 is going to re-emerge with a vengeance.
 

CWTexansFan

King Deplorable
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I use a continuous fluid and continuous air suction in or around the wounds to evacuate a great portion of contaminants potentially escaping from the wound. If the surgery is expected to be grossly bloody, see through mask spash guard shields (a built in part of the top of the surgical masks.........see below), protective googles or at least glasses are worn to protect from splashes. Again, as a surgeon, our greatest concern is bacterial, not viral transmission.

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Anything non flammable?
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I'm not sure that many people realize how many coaches are not youngsters and have significant health problems making them high risk for COVID.

In fact, the data I was supplied relates that each NFL team typically has carried an average of 5 players who have respiratory issues requiring the use of medication.

The other big risk factor that few talk about is hypertension (high blood pressure). An NFL-funded study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) demonstrated that up to 90% of the NFL players had high blood pressure ..........compared to 30% of the general male population. In other words, the pros were up to 3 times more likely to have above-normal blood pressure! What could account for this difference? According to the authors, aggressive drug testing mostly eliminates steroids as a factor, though prolonged use of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (i.e., aspirin, ibuprofen, etc.) could play a role. Diet was certainly a major factor: too much salt and meat..........and not enough fruit and vegetables can spike blood pressure...........and the carrying around of too much fat and weight (BMI) in general.

Besides the issues addressed above, individual NFL players will certainly carry the risks of other health issues, especially those in the older group. You don't really have to think too hard to understand that maybe our perceived big and strong players may not be so immune to the COVID as believed.
 

ATXtexanfan

Hall of Fame
They were/are required in Harris County. I bet they are required in Travis/Williamson counties.
Yeah after the fact. I will admit. We were what 3 months into pandemic and then CDC recommends masks.

Either it's a hail mary to wear a mask or me and you should have been sowing masks for profit ahead of the curve

Personally I've adjusted to mask life as a vendor. I walk around outside in one. Even with it getting hot I'm good.

CDC waiting to recommend a mask tends to make you think
It was a hail mary
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I work with fire, sometimes there are embers.
If you are asking if protective wear is flammable..........it is. Some anesthetics used to be, but they have been banned from the operating room for many years. Of course, oxygen is still universally used............all equipment, the patient and surgical personnel are well-grounded.........and electrocautery devices are kept well isolated from the oxygen source.
 

KarlK

Waterboy
You do realize that stupid little mask ain’t protecting you from anything, right? You’re only protecting things and people from your spit flying on them. But whatever makes people feel safer, I guess. I only wear mine when I’m forced to by the establishments, other than that, I let my immune system do it’s thang. Not like I like being around other people anyway, even before this Covid bullshiat.

I’m normally not around more than one other person anyway. Other than my wife, I guess you can say 2 more people. (Wife and in laws, or wife and my parents when we decide to visit them.)
You are such a badazz.
 

CWTexansFan

King Deplorable
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If you are asking if protective wear is flammable..........it is. Some anesthetics used to be, but they have been banned from the operating room for many years. Of course, oxygen is still universally used............all equipment, the patient and surgical personnel are well-grounded.........and electrocautery devices are kept well isolated from the oxygen source.
Sorry, just curious, my first mask caught on fire. If i work in a 140 degree environment, will heat keep me safe without mask?
 

CloakNNNdagger

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I work with fire, sometimes there are embers.
If you are asking if protective wear is flammable..........it is. Some anesthetics used to be, but they have been banned from the operating room for many years. Of course, oxygen is still universally used............all equipment, the patient and surgical personnel are well-grounded.........and electrocautery devices are kept well isolated from the oxygen source.
I need to clarify this statement. Masks, gown and patient drapes utilized in surgery are certified 'burn/flame resistant" [class I or II]............they are tested against short flame exposure (not likely to burn when hit with sporadic flying embers). They will not resist burning under longer exposures to high intensity oxygenated flame. Most all of the masks labelled or made to look like "surgical" masks sold online are not flame or burn resistant tested. DIY masks should not be expected to afford any such protection.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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Sorry, just curious, my first mask caught on fire. If i work in a 140 degree environment, will heat keep me safe without mask?
Environmental humidity extremes (low and high) rather than temperature extremes appear to be much more a factor in COVID transmission. In the Arabian peninsula where MERS and the swine and bird flus as is the case now with the COVID virus is spreading in 110-120 degree heat just fine. Keep in mind, the COVID virus' ability to infect is more dependent upon the body's temperature, not the environmental temperatures. If you remember, bats because of their ability to safely soar their body temperatures while flying (I've posted about this in the past if you want to do a search) allow them to carry but not be infected by the COVID virus. On the other hand, the human body has a great ability to regulate it's internal temperature within a narrow range, despite environmental extremes.
 
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My question is if masks do nothing at all then why do doctors and nurses wear them during procedures and surgeries, there would be no point.
Doctors and Nurses are in close contact with their patience and they have to be. The general population is able for the most part to maintain a fairly safe distance.
 

KA4Texan

Weirdo Mode Engaged
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Environmental humidity extremes (low and high) rather than temperature extremes appear to be much more a factor in COVID transmission. In the Arabian peninsula where MERS and the swine and bird flus as is the case now with the COVID virus is spreading in 110-120 degree heat just fine. Keep in mind, the COVID virus' ability to infect is more dependent upon the body's temperature, not the environmental temperatures. If you remember, bats because of their ability to safely soar their body temperatures while flying (I've posted about this in the past if you want to do a search) allow them to carry but not be infected by the COVID virus. On the other hand, the human body has a great ability to regulate it's internal temperature within a narrow range, despite environmental extremes.
So..... THAT is why if you have the choice... you should ALWAYS be Batman.
 

CWTexansFan

King Deplorable
Contributor's Club
Environmental humidity extremes (low and high) rather than temperature extremes appear to be much more a factor in COVID transmission. In the Arabian peninsula where MERS and the swine and bird flus as is the case now with the COVID virus is spreading in 110-120 degree heat just fine. Keep in mind, the COVID virus' ability to infect is more dependent upon the body's temperature, not the environmental temperatures. If you remember, bats because of their ability to safely soar their body temperatures while flying (I've posted about this in the past if you want to do a search) allow them to carry but not be infected by the COVID virus. On the other hand, the human body has a great ability to regulate it's internal temperature within a narrow range, despite environmental extremes.
Thank you.
 


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