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Texans 2-6: Who's to Blame?

Texans Chick asked about a macro or "big picture" view of what is/has been wrong with the Texans so of course it devolved into a discussion of Carr. Well, Dave (or any other player) is a little picture. I'll throw out a wild big picture idea here though.


Why can't the Texans field a talented, winning team? Because of the weather!

I contend that as long we have our training camps in 95 degree heat and 95% humidity, we will continue to do a better job of identifying athletes who can perform in high heat index conditions than we do of identifying football players for NFL afternoons.

Comments?
 
Texans Chick asked about a macro or "big picture" view of what is/has been wrong with the Texans so of course it devolved into a discussion of Carr. Well, Dave (or any other player) is a little picture. I'll throw out a wild big picture idea here though.


Why can't the Texans field a talented, winning team? Because of the weather!

I contend that as long we have our training camps in 95 degree heat and 95% humidity, we will continue to do a better job of identifying athletes who can perform in high heat index conditions than we do of identifying football players for NFL afternoons.

Comments?
He isn't a very good football player but he is hell at beanbag chunkin'!

2003-02-23-inside-aiken.jpg

Ron Berger, an optometrist, gives a hand-eye
coordination test to former North Carolina WR Sam Aiken.

By Robert Scheer, Indianapolis Star
INDIANAPOLIS - Rutgers tight end John Smith could not have foreseen the series of tests the Houston Texans were about to give him Saturday at the NFL's scouting combine.

Smith, projected as a third-round pick in the draft April 26-27, was in a room a couple of blocks from RCA Dome, where prospects have been timed and tested since Wednesday. Wearing thick, vision-altering glasses and monitored by two optometrists, Smith was trying to toss bean bags into a small trash can about 10 feet away.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2003-02-23-cover-combine_x.htm
 
He isn't a very good football player but he is hell at beanbag chunkin'!

2003-02-23-inside-aiken.jpg

Ron Berger, an optometrist, gives a hand-eye
coordination test to former North Carolina WR Sam Aiken.

By Robert Scheer, Indianapolis Star http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2003-02-23-cover-combine_x.htm

I've stated this before and I'll repeat it again here. If you ever have a chance to talk with a player (and even if you can only talk about one topic) ask about the combine. The stories are fabulous. The combine has a unique blend of evaluation and inanity for extremely high stakes.
 
Texans Chick asked about a macro or "big picture" view of what is/has been wrong with the Texans so of course it devolved into a discussion of Carr. Well, Dave (or any other player) is a little picture. I'll throw out a wild big picture idea here though.


Why can't the Texans field a talented, winning team? Because of the weather!

I contend that as long we have our training camps in 95 degree heat and 95% humidity, we will continue to do a better job of identifying athletes who can perform in high heat index conditions than we do of identifying football players for NFL afternoons.

Comments?


I have wondered about that some. This summer had a heat wave all over the country, but I had a hard time just WATCHING some of the practices it was so hot. It can't be something that is particularly attractive to free agents either. Word gets around.

I know they've paid a lot of money for that practice facility, but they can't use it all the time. Especially for players that have nicked up legs, they've tried to keep them on the grass.
 
David Carr is to blame? Wrong.

Who's to blame? 1) Charley Casserly for years of poor draft picks and trades, and 2) Dom Capers for years of zero focus on developing David Carr with an experienced backup or a top fight QB coach. Period.

The Texans are closer to a first year franchise than a fifth because so little was done during the first four years. With that said, sit back and watch the second half of the season. Our team is playing better and the competition is weaker. It's going to be a nice turn of events.

Are you kidding me? Read what Thunderkyss has written and maybe you'll get the point. The guy has been terrible for 5 years and any other quarterback with that many completions would be throwing for 300+ yards a game. When has Carr thrown downfield and it not been a jump ball???

Andre Johnson is a great reciever and so is Moulds. Without them, Carr is an average quarterback with a bad throwing motion. I still don't understand how someone with his talent was drafted no.1 overall. I put Carr in that Casserly regime category. Rosenfels gives us a better chance to win period.
 
I have them at 1 game behind schedule right now considering I pegged them at 6-10. Listen folks, you don't re-grow a team like this overnight. There are just want too many new factors for us to even be halfway decent. Carr is making good strides, the Defense is coming along, and the coaches are gaining players' respect.
 
Are you kidding me? Read what Thunderkyss has written and maybe you'll get the point. The guy has been terrible for 5 years and any other quarterback with that many completions would be throwing for 300+ yards a game. When has Carr thrown downfield and it not been a jump ball???

Andre Johnson is a great reciever and so is Moulds. Without them, Carr is an average quarterback with a bad throwing motion. I still don't understand how someone with his talent was drafted no.1 overall. I put Carr in that Casserly regime category. Rosenfels gives us a better chance to win period.
Carr is having a good, just in case you didn't notice. Hey, where'd that running game go?
 
1st let me ask 1 question, you have a baby who is learning to walk, he falls down quite a bit and bangs into things and stumbles a lot....who is to blame for that.......NO ONE

The analogy is the same the Texans are learning to walk, BOY OH BOY wait till we master running. :redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel:
 
I'm sure every other couch coach feels that way. It' easy to blame him one person when we lose. I'm sure you'd and every other couch coach would feel differently if we had 6 wins opposed to 6 losses. Let's not forget the money a certain Baltimore QB commanded (and got) after a super bowl year when was no better than Carr is right now.
I liked Carr's fire last week, I hope to see more of it this week. And when we win every one will be on his side again.
 
We lose the battle on the lines. We always have. Pitts is the only offensive lineman we have that would probably find a starting spot on another NFL team. Flanagan was not going to be re-signed by the Packers because they didn't think he was starter material anymore. Wiegert wouldn't start for any other team in the NFL (at RT, anyway). McKinney lost his starting job to a career backup, Fred Weary. Our left tackle position has been a revolving door since the first game of the franchise's history.

Our defensive line has been just as bad. Seth Payne has been the best defensive lineman this team has ever had, in a position that doesn't garner many accolades. Walker was good for about a year and a half. Babin has been a disappointment overall, though he's shown flashes of potential. Peek is a decent role player, but has been very inconsistent. Travis Johnson is only in his second year, but has clearly underachieved to this point. Robaire smith only showed up for a couple games a year - vs. the Tacks.

Kubiak has shown a light at the end of the tunnel. He drafted Spencer and Winston this year, which at least demonstrates that he recognizes the need on the O-line. He drafted Mario and signed Anthony Weaver to the D-line. He brought in many role players to rotate in and out of the D-line and as a unit, the D-line might end up being the strength of the team.

So I am hopeful, but to me, the demise of this organization has been atrocious line play to this point in its short history.
 
I think another attitude that was ingrained in the players from the previous regime is this. The players were not allowed to voice an opinion on the team direction, play calling, personnel, etc. without there being repercussions from the coaching staff. It was clear to the players they should mind their own business and not speak out about things.

This leads to the players playing for themselves, not fully participating in making the team better, and - at the worst - ends up with the players quitting on the coaches.
 
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