Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍

Selection 3.70, Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State

Thumbs Up or Down?

  • Up

    Votes: 98 91.6%

  • Down

    Votes: 9 8.4%
  • Total voters
    107
Looks like we're revamping our Special Teams. A bunch of guys are out, a bunch of guys being thrown in, a bunch who weren't even on the team seven days ago.

If Strong (who I had high hopes for) isn't active for special teams... all my hope is gone.
 
thunderkyss said:
Looks like we're revamping our Special Teams. A bunch of guys are out, a bunch of guys being thrown in, a bunch who weren't even on the team seven days ago.

If Strong (who I had high hopes for) isn't active for special teams... all my hope is gone.
Click to expand...

All your hope is going to be gone. Strong doesn't play ST's. He's the latest version of Posey.
 
With the injuries to Washington and Shorts. Will we see the debut of Strong this Thursday night?
 
Texian said:
The reason Strong became a terrible 3rd RD pick is because O'Brien gave up draft picks #82, #152, #229 and DeVier Posey in order to move up 12 picks to draft Strong.
Click to expand...
You are dead wrong. Don't believe, go look at the Draft value chart: it clearly states that there was a fair exchange, unless you think Posey was really that valuable.
 
Nitrofish said:
With the injuries to Washington and Shorts. Will we see the debut of Strong this Thursday night?
Click to expand...

Yes. No choice.

But Mumphery will get the targets, which underscores why the absence of Strong has been a problem. A 5th round pick projected as a UDFA has been contributing while Strong has not even seen the field.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Nope ... rumor is after yesterday's game , Strong plans to practice worse in hopes of getting cut . He thinks the rest of the league will understand .
Click to expand...
jkk0oh.jpg
 
rmartin65 said:
I am not watching the game, but I see that Strong has 2 TDs on 2 targets. Is he still a bust?
Click to expand...

On his second TD, no one bothered to cover him and he was open for 20 yards by himself in the endzone.

The hail Mary catch was good, but the Colts didn't even bother to defend it. Five DBs just kind of sat there and watched it.
 
Some good background on Strong, especially by his mother.
Texans' Strong no stranger to Hail Mary catches
By Aaron Wilson
]October 10, 2015 Updated: October 10, 2015 10:48pm
Click to expand...

An excerpt from this article, related by his mother, clarifies the claim that O'Brien was not happy with Strong coming to TC "overweight." :

Strong bulked up to roughly 230 pounds before O'Brien told him to drop some pounds.

"It's funny because Jaelen had never put on weight before and he put on the weight so fast because he wasn't training as much and this was the first time he'd had this much time off," Alexis Strong said. "I told him, 'You need to be working out every day.' He lost the weight they asked him to lose and overcame the hamstring injury.
Click to expand...
 
rmartin65 said:
I am not watching the game, but I see that Strong has 2 TDs on 2 targets. Is he still a bust?
Click to expand...

I don't think anyone has said he is a bust. Way too early to determine that. That said, if you call a hail-mary and another blown coverage as success then you are easy to impress. Pure luck, nothing more. Both TD's were nothing but luck.
 
Wolf said:
Report is he is released.


Another draft pick bites the dust....
Click to expand...

Three picks bite the dust.

"If we really like a player and we have conviction on this player, like we know we have a consensus that the scouting staff and the coaching staff like this player, we have a vision, we know where this guy is going to fit, let's go get him," O'Brien said recently in a season ticket holder conference call. "So if we feel like we're going to lose him, let's trade up and go get him."


"I don't know if that's been done a lot around here before," O'Brien said. "But I give Rick credit, he did it. He did it twice, and we were able to get some good players. Again, those guys need to go out and play now. But we feel good about where they are."
 
Last edited:
TheKDog said:
Three picks bite the dust.

"If we really like a player and we have conviction on this player, like we know we have a consensus that the scouting staff and the coaching staff like this player, we have a vision, we know where this guy is going to fit, let's go get him," O'Brien said recently in a season ticket holder conference call. "So if we feel like we're going to lose him, let's trade up and go get him."


"I don't know if that's been done a lot around here before," O'Brien said. "But I give Rick credit, he did it. He did it twice, and we were able to get some good players. Again, those guys need to go out and play now. But we feel good about where they are."
Click to expand...

What a disaster.

283fc94f38c99f62d09d5542cfc0f370.gif
 
Nitrofish said:
I don't think anyone has said he is a bust. Way too early to determine that. That said, if you call a hail-mary and another blown coverage as success then you are easy to impress. Pure luck, nothing more. Both TD's were nothing but luck.
Click to expand...

Busty

Where are the Strong defenders now.
 
Mollywhopper said:
I liked, and defended, Strong as a selection. Not so much the trading assets to get him and all that, but merely taking him.

That said, this is where you tell us you've never gotten a prospect wrong or admit you sound like kind of a c*ck for implying as such.
Click to expand...

Take it as you want.

I said yesterday I missed on Garrett Graham. I thought he would be a better blocking OD.

Difference is I'm better at picking out talent than Ricky and crew are. Hell, you're better than they are. Not that that is saying much for either of us and that's the point. One that I'm sure you get but don't want to admit the shape the Texans org is in.

I find it humorous that Cak would like your post since he was also a huge Strong fan. (I'm not sure why, because that guy has sucked since day one that he joined the Texans org.) Strong's biggest problems were he was slow in and out of his breaks, was a terrible route runner and while fast it took him too long to get to top speed.

BTW, Strong would still be a Texan if he didn't get arrested for smoking pot. (How stupid a reason is that.) But there ain't gonna be no dopers in McNair's org. Unless your name is Brian Cushing and his day will be coming soon.
 
steelbtexan said:
Take it as you want.

I said yesterday I missed on Garrett Graham. I thought he would be a better blocking OD.

Difference is I'm better at picking out talent than Ricky and crew are. Hell, you're better than they are. Not that that is saying much for either of us and that's the point. One that I'm sure you get but don't want to admit the shape the Texans org is in.

I find it humorous that Cak would like your post since he was also a huge Strong fan. (I'm not sure why, because that guy has sucked since day one that he joined the Texans org.) Strong's biggest problems were he was slow in and out of his breaks, was a terrible route runner and while fast it took him too long to get to top speed.

BTW, Strong would still be a Texan if he didn't get arrested for smoking pot. (How stupid a reason is that.) But there ain't gonna be no dopers in McNair's org. Unless your name is Brian Cushing and his day will be coming soon.
Click to expand...

So you didn't get the point of what I said then?
 
steelbtexan said:
I find it humorous that Cak would like your post since he was also a huge Strong fan..
Click to expand...

Strong had nothing to do with my liking the post. And I have never said anything more about Strong other than maybe they should get him on the field more to find out if he is going to cut it.
 
steelbtexan said:
Take it as you want.

I said yesterday I missed on Garrett Graham. I thought he would be a better blocking OD.

Difference is I'm better at picking out talent than Ricky and crew are. Hell, you're better than they are. Not that that is saying much for either of us and that's the point. One that I'm sure you get but don't want to admit the shape the Texans org is in.

I find it humorous that Cak would like your post since he was also a huge Strong fan. (I'm not sure why, because that guy has sucked since day one that he joined the Texans org.) Strong's biggest problems were he was slow in and out of his breaks, was a terrible route runner and while fast it took him too long to get to top speed.

BTW, Strong would still be a Texan if he didn't get arrested for smoking pot. (How stupid a reason is that.) But there ain't gonna be no dopers in McNair's org. Unless your name is Brian Cushing and his day will be coming soon.
Click to expand...

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/brian-cushing-i-did-not-know-there-were-peds-stero-56944

Brian Cushing: ‘I Did Not Know There Were PEDs In The Steroids I Took’
Click to expand...
 
infantrycak said:
Strong had nothing to do with my liking the post. And I have never said anything more about Strong other than maybe they should get him on the field more to find out if he is going to cut it.
Click to expand...
Kinda how I felt about Akeem Hunt. Hard to see what you've got it you won't give them a chance.
 
steelbtexan said:
Take it as you want.

I said yesterday I missed on Garrett Graham. I thought he would be a better blocking OD.

Difference is I'm better at picking out talent than Ricky and crew are. Hell, you're better than they are. Not that that is saying much for either of us and that's the point. One that I'm sure you get but don't want to admit the shape the Texans org is in.
Click to expand...

This is like the chicken and egg scenario

We can pick talented SOBs but can the coaches coach them into their scheme or can the coaches adjust to the players strengths?
 
Wolf said:
This is like the chicken and egg scenario

We can pick talented SOBs but can the coaches coach them into their scheme or can the coaches adjust to the players strengths?
Click to expand...

And can the coaches turn the unformed balls of potential they draft into realized potential talented SOBs?

When 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks are failing to improve it may have been a bad pick and/or it may be bad coaching.

People may have preferred a different player but the Texans are drafting players where outside evaluators say they should go with rare exception.
 
infantrycak said:
You don't know that any better than the people who declared Kubiak was not a SB HC.
Click to expand...

Blind squirrel> Acorn

Continue on

You really think the Texans can win a SB with Ricky as head personnel guy? LOL You've learned nothing in 11 yrs and counting.
 
When a player doesn't work out or fails to meet whatever expectations some or all of us had for him why do we always have to go through this "So where are the (insert players name here) supporters?" Bullshit? Why does there always have to be an accounting over whose hopes were misplaced? Does it make people feel that good to know that they did or didn't guess right as to what a particular player was capable of?

This is why I find it hard to connect with a lot of fans regardless of the sport really. I grew up watching football with a handful of fans who were friends. We talked daily about the Oiler's highs and lows and we talked face to face so there was none of this attitude where when someone felt they had been proven right they were more concerned about rubbing everyone else's noses in it than talking about what "we" were going to do now that player "X" hadn't worked out. You know, because the focus was on the team being successful and our mutual desire to see that happen?

Now online it's just people arguing with screen names about who was right. All they ever want to do is be right or get their dicks sucked over how smart they are. It gets old and it wears your enthusiasm for the game and the team down when you find yourself surrounded by that ****. 2017 is two games old and it already feels like Week 8-10 and we're out of it and depressed.

If you never thought Strong would amount to anything that's fine but this should not make you happy.
 
Hervoyel said:
When a player doesn't work out or fails to meet whatever expectations some or all of us had for him why do we always have to go through this "So where are the (insert players name here) supporters?" Bullshit? Why does there always have to be an accounting over whose hopes were misplaced? Does it make people feel that good to know that they did or didn't guess right as to what a particular player was capable of?

This is why I find it hard to connect with a lot of fans regardless of the sport really. I grew up watching football with a handful of fans who were friends. We talked daily about the Oiler's highs and lows and we talked face to face so there was none of this attitude where when someone felt they had been proven right they were more concerned about rubbing everyone else's noses in it than talking about what "we" were going to do now that player "X" hadn't worked out. You know, because the focus was on the team being successful and our mutual desire to see that happen?

Now online it's just people arguing with screen names about who was right. All they ever want to do is be right or get their dicks sucked over how smart they are. It gets old and it wears your enthusiasm for the game and the team down when you find yourself surrounded by that ****. 2017 is two games old and it already feels like Week 8-10 and we're out of it and depressed.

If you never thought Strong would amount to anything that's fine but this should not make you happy.
Click to expand...

I hope you don't think of me this way, I truly wish I was wrong about the Texans org. But they gotta change the way they acquire players.
 
Hervoyel said:
When a player doesn't work out or fails to meet whatever expectations some or all of us had for him why do we always have to go through this "So where are the (insert players name here) supporters?" Bullshit? Why does there always have to be an accounting over whose hopes were misplaced? Does it make people feel that good to know that they did or didn't guess right as to what a particular player was capable of?
Click to expand...

If there was one WR on this team exceeding expectations, I could see where people would fault the selection.

If there was ever one WR on this team in the last 4 years who exceeded expectations I could see where people would fault the selection.

But when you happen to have one of the highest paid WR in the league looking like JAG, how can you blame the selection of a talented prospect?

Then we've got PFF telling us Oday Aboushi scored higher than any OL we had on the field in the off-season of 2016 & he can't crack the starting line-up, most here agree Mancz was our most solid interior lineman in 2016, but he's benched in favor of two guys we btch'd about all last season...

Then it takes 2 qtrs of football for our HC to toss away three months of our off-season program... when they had three years to prepare a QB to start


woosaaa.... woosaaa.... woosaaa
 
TexansBull said:
I say that not because of the reason you have, but because they could probably get the talent out of him that OB and Rick thought they could. Plus they ate short on receivers.

Wasn't it Posey or K. Martin they took to the SB?

I think they just like to screw with us.
Click to expand...

The Texans are short on receivers too ... but yeah , NE could use help at the position.


K.Martin played in NE .... Posey is playing in the CFL and tearing it up.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top